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S man
05-18-2008, 11:45 PM
Here's my new dixon black bear 34". It is awsome. Beats the phazer in every area except in the cut department once in awhile. It is a professional 34" z. Also new redmax 2601s trimmer. And many lawns cut by the black bear. My lawns are very small so a larger mower wouldn't work. Enjoy.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0929.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0928.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0924.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0923.jpg

S man
05-18-2008, 11:47 PM
More pics.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_2548.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_2550.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_2549.jpg

S man
05-18-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm gonna lose the glasses and switch to contacts soon. lol.

More pics.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0925.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0927.jpg

02DURAMAX
05-18-2008, 11:50 PM
How much did you pay?

S man
05-18-2008, 11:51 PM
Pics from today.
My in the neighborhood setup. Looks like happy frog's setup. :laugh:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0930.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0932.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0933.jpg

Ah. All redmax handhelds.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0934.jpg

S man
05-18-2008, 11:53 PM
Lawns from today in my neighborhood. I was trying to stripe.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0936.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0937.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0938.jpg

S man
05-18-2008, 11:54 PM
And please, I didn't start blowing yet when I took that last picture.

totallawncare25
05-18-2008, 11:55 PM
there are stripes there kinda all over the place.... Try to be more uniform

S man
05-18-2008, 11:55 PM
How much did you pay?

$6035 out the door. Dixon is sending me a 150 dollar debit card which is the rebate.

KrayzKajun
05-18-2008, 11:56 PM
nice scott!!

S man
05-18-2008, 11:58 PM
there are stripes there kinda all over the place.... Try to be more uniform

Yeah those lawns have potential I just need to pay more attention. Also they were high so I had to double cut some sections. That last pic there is something sticking out of the ground so I always trim it only it doesn't hit the mower deck. I should stop trimming around it.:dizzy:

KrayzKajun
05-18-2008, 11:58 PM
there are stripes there kinda all over the place.... Try to be more uniform

LOL! its nearly impossible to stripe anything down here!!


striping*trucewhiteflag*

totallawncare25
05-18-2008, 11:59 PM
a striping kit will help alot

S man
05-19-2008, 12:01 AM
LOL! its nearly impossible to stripe anything down here!!


striping*trucewhiteflag*

I agree. The earlier lawn comes out great when I use the 21" and its sunnier out. I shoud have taken some pics of it from last year. It looked awsome.

S man
05-19-2008, 12:01 AM
a striping kit will help alot

For the 34" cut? I'll check with my dealer tomorrow. Also the damn hour meter isn't working.

S L C
05-19-2008, 12:18 AM
nice scott!!

You are kidding right?? Stripes WHERE???????????? :hammerhead:

S man
05-19-2008, 12:22 AM
You are kidding right?? Stripes WHERE???????????? :hammerhead:

:hammerhead:Our grass is hard to stripe down in new orleans. Anyway I said I was "trying" to stripe.

SNAPPER MAN
05-19-2008, 10:17 AM
Dude I do not understand your business plan at all. You just bough a 32" stander and were saying how much you loved it. You have barely used it. You also have a phazer which you said you loved it but both those machines are barely used. You need to wear out your machines before you get new ones in my opinion. Dont get me wrong the dixon is a nice mower but just try to appreciate what you have and try to save some money. I personally think all your lawns are too small to put a ztr on, Id be using a 32" walkbehind. Low overhead with good cut results in my opinion.

grass2cash
05-19-2008, 10:42 AM
S man,
I admire your hustle and ambition, but did you actually pay $6k for the mower? Btw,do you ever hear that you resemble Harry Potter? Perhaps you could incorporate that into your logo/motto?

S man
05-19-2008, 11:48 AM
Dude I do not understand your business plan at all. You just bough a 32" stander and were saying how much you loved it. You have barely used it. You also have a phazer which you said you loved it but both those machines are barely used. You need to wear out your machines before you get new ones in my opinion. Dont get me wrong the dixon is a nice mower but just try to appreciate what you have and try to save some money. I personally think all your lawns are too small to put a ztr on, Id be using a 32" walkbehind. Low overhead with good cut results in my opinion.
Those two mowers just weren't working for me. I am very productive with my 34" rider and 21"s where the rider can't get. This will be my main mower for all small lawns. Next year I might move into bigger properties and get a larger z, but for these small lawns, a 34" ztr is awsome. I have had a 32 w/b and the 32 stander. Both get tiring after using them for a long period of time. Also I need to change the height often. The fixed deck is a pain for that. The phazer was cool but wasen't like a larger commercial z. This is a commercial z in 34" width. I love it and it kicks grass! I will keep this mower until it breaks.
Also I paid 3k for the stander but sold it and got 3600. So I actually didn't lose money on it.

S man,
I admire your hustle and ambition, but did you actually pay $6k for the mower? Btw,do you ever hear that you resemble Harry Potter? Perhaps you could incorporate that into your logo/motto?

Yeah I did spend 6k exactly but I'm getting a 150 dollar rebate back from dixon. And I really don't like harry potter because I'm a christian, and like I said I'm getting contacts actually today. :rolleyes:

Blueribbonlawns
05-19-2008, 12:21 PM
??? 6k+3k+TAXES? Dude you could of got a Walker MC for $8,600!!!!

davis45
05-19-2008, 01:01 PM
Not trying to be rude. Maybe its just me, but the cut looks awful.

DoetschOutdoor
05-19-2008, 01:22 PM
If the mower works out for ya and you can justify having that expensive of a mower for those lawns, good for you. But IMO , you got ripped a new one on that mower. I paid $6k for a 48" exmark with a 20hp and you got a MUCH smaller machine for the same price...and do you really need a 6k mower for those type of lawns? I'm sure its cool to show off around the neighborhood on a new ztr but thats alot of dough for a small mower and those lawns. Also, are you sure its floating deck? Those cuts look like they were done with a fixed deck, ie all the scalps in the yards.

Landscape89
05-19-2008, 02:04 PM
Good to see another Redmax Fan! :clapping:
Setup Looks Good Man.. I was just curious, How old are you?
Im 19.

fastcat
05-19-2008, 02:27 PM
i paid 5000 for a brand new 42 bobcat and it is 5 times the mower that thing is. if i were you i would go back to my dealer, kick him and get my money back.

Supper Grassy
05-19-2008, 02:39 PM
Nice Equipment

ATouchofGrass
05-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Contacts are not a great idea when trimming. I use them but have to wear my sunglasses because i always get grass in my eyes, and you know when working in these conditions your hands are always dirty!

MJS
05-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Not trying to be rude. Maybe its just me, but the cut looks awful.

I thought the cut looked alright in the first two pics, though I have to agree, the other lawns don't all look that great - not blowing the clippings before taking the picture probably also has something to do with it.

S man, those are some massive rear wheels on that Dixon - how's the ride with that machine?

BTW, nice setup.

NOOB
05-19-2008, 03:28 PM
Contacts are not a great idea when trimming. I use them but have to wear my sunglasses because i always get grass in my eyes, and you know when working in these conditions your hands are always dirty!

Listen to this Do Not get contacts it will really hurts your eyes with the dust and dirt

DoetschOutdoor
05-19-2008, 03:30 PM
You guys with contact problems, are you sure your wearing good/right contacts? I have no problems with contacts and I work outside everyday and only take them out a few times a month. I wouldnt want to wear my expensive prescription glasses to trim in anyways, too many scratches. That is what sunglasses are for.

poolboy
05-19-2008, 05:07 PM
FYI, you really can't stripe St. Augustine. Winter rye, different story.

KS_Grasscutter
05-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Wow, that grass on the sidewalk looks like a PITA to blow off. THANK GOD we bag everything here...

lawnboy858
05-19-2008, 05:21 PM
Looking good scott.

If I were you I would have got a Toro T2 walk behind.

They are just around 6k new.

lsu03
05-19-2008, 06:04 PM
what happened to the stander? and all of the 21s?

ProTouch Groundscapes
05-19-2008, 07:48 PM
wow, 6k for that thing? i paid 5300 out the door for my 21hp 48" is1500z.

do you have issues with getting through a gate? b/c ive had my 48" rider in lawns smaller than that and it saves a ton of time.

34" lol, i wear size 34 pants, i dont think id fit on that thing lol.

eXmarksthespot23
05-19-2008, 07:57 PM
work on laying pin straight passes and that will catch more peoples attention.. like said before uniform.. mmmm delicious

NOOB
05-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Wow, that grass on the sidewalk looks like a PITA to blow off. THANK GOD we bag everything here...


I know this is a Stupid question but what is PITA?

totallawncare25
05-19-2008, 08:19 PM
pain in the A#(

PMLawns
05-19-2008, 08:20 PM
It could be a PITA bread....or it could be A PITA pie....but I do concur the PITA he is referring to would be a pain in the "arse" ...so to speak!!!:waving:

RedMax Man
05-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Who in their right mind brings a string trimmer inside their house:dizzy:. Do ya bring it to bed with you too? I've never brought a trimmer inside or any other tools.

How many weeks you planning on keeping that Dixon?

I must say thats nifty pulln the wagon behind the Dixon.

deere615
05-19-2008, 11:00 PM
I hope this mower works out. By the way I wear glasses, I just don't feel like bothering with contacts

fastcat
05-19-2008, 11:14 PM
i wear glasses but they suck at keeping crap out of my eyes so i have to wear those goggles over my glasses when its windy. it really sucks

Mowerboy04
05-19-2008, 11:29 PM
first of all stipes??? i don't see any at all... second you say the exmark was not a commerical machine? last time i checked at my dealer the phaser was deffently a commerical machine, and i bet you with in a week you will wish you still had your exmark becuase a exmark will cut circles around that silly dixion. i have a close friend who use to have a dixion and all i can say is what a pice of junk, all he had was problems with it and it cut really bad. anyway with all that said good luck with your new mower can't wait to see what mower you will get next week:hammerhead:

tras
05-19-2008, 11:55 PM
I cant believe you paid $6 for that mower. I cant even believe someone would buy one of those, let alone for a commercial application. A 36" walk behind would have been such a better choice.

With that much over head and these little lawns, do you even make any money?

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Man, it dosent sound like people on this site like your new Dixon. Any of your accounts on Tulane Street or Kilgore Street. I have two on each. OOO and one other thing, how do you keep your self propelling always engaged on the snapper, I dont see how you could make turns.

MysticLandscape
05-20-2008, 12:27 AM
I have yet to land an account where trimming is required inside of the house.... do you need seperarate insurance for that... i will have to check with my agent.

Synergy Ground
05-20-2008, 12:42 AM
I can't belive all of the negative feed back this kid has gotten. I only wish I had his ambition at his age. The mower is nice and will serve his purpose. The weedeater in the house is an exitment thing. You can tell it was brand new, he probably took it inside to check it out, and take a few good pics. I'm 35 and just bought a new Echo SRM 260. Guess what? When I got home it came inisde to show the wife. I was proud of it, and so is this kid. All of the "You should have" comments don't belong. i wonder how many of you at his age had all the answers? I dought the number is very high. Hold your head high kid, your on your way to something great!!!

slowleak1
05-20-2008, 12:55 AM
I can't belive all of the negative feed back this kid has gotten. I only wish I had his ambition at his age. All of the "You should have" comments don't belong. i wonder how many of you at his age had all the answers?

i agree. what is wrong with yall? this site is for help and encouragment. good job scott, looks good. these people dont know how to cut st aug so dont listen to them.

S man
05-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Oh my God. That is all I can say. I don't know about any of you, but what I bought works for me and I love it. The cut is the same as the phazer. The traction is much better and the ride is smoother becuase of the better seat and large tires. It is a commercial mower. The weed eater was brand new so I brought it in the house for just a second. Big deal.
Also stop telling me a need a w/b! I DO NOT LIKE WALKING OR FIXED DECKS! I like this mower. Get over it. I will get a exmark 46" lazer when I start doing large properties. I cut small lawns right now. Also the cut comes out great. Those pics don't do it justice. I'll get some pics of what this mower can really do.
And I will keep this mower for a very loooooong time. Thanks everyone and goodnight. I was at my friend's graduation and party after.

btw, I'm 18.

fool32696
05-20-2008, 02:30 AM
A 46" inch mower is a waste. I can really only see the need for 3 sizes: a 21 walk, a 36 walk, and a 66 zero turn.

MJS
05-20-2008, 09:42 AM
A 46" inch mower is a waste. I can really only see the need for 3 sizes: a 21 walk, a 36 walk, and a 66 zero turn.

Another ironic UN. . .

Maybe to you, but I sure wouldn't mind having a 46" zero turn. And it looks like neither would he. There's sure nothing wrong with using what you like.

Yeah S man, show us some better pics - I'd love to see them.

fastcat
05-20-2008, 10:17 AM
i wasnt ripping on the kid just telling him that he got ripped off on that mower. i mean come on you know that mower isnt worth any were near 6 grand

tras
05-20-2008, 10:39 AM
I can't belive all of the negative feed back this kid has gotten. I only wish I had his ambition at his age. The mower is nice and will serve his purpose. The weedeater in the house is an exitment thing. You can tell it was brand new, he probably took it inside to check it out, and take a few good pics. I'm 35 and just bought a new Echo SRM 260. Guess what? When I got home it came inisde to show the wife. I was proud of it, and so is this kid. All of the "You should have" comments don't belong. i wonder how many of you at his age had all the answers? I dought the number is very high. Hold your head high kid, your on your way to something great!!!



Age has nothing to do with it, i am just as old as he is and have an actual worthwhile fleet. And I also mow near some properties near my home and some near by shop, but do i hook up my little toy wagon and pull it down the street? No.

The same guys that thing having rims on your truck is unprofessional think pulling a little wagon around with your mower is professional? I would expect that from a 12 year old, not an 18 year old.

Sure he can do whatever he wants, im just stating my option. He paid WAY too much for that mower, and in a lot of our eyes its a joke, but to each his own i guess.

Landscape89
05-20-2008, 11:06 AM
Oh my God. That is all I can say. I don't know about any of you, but what I bought works for me and I love it. The cut is the same as the phazer. The traction is much better and the ride is smoother becuase of the better seat and large tires. It is a commercial mower. The weed eater was brand new so I brought it in the house for just a second. Big deal.
Also stop telling me a need a w/b! I DO NOT LIKE WALKING OR FIXED DECKS! I like this mower. Get over it. I will get a exmark 46" lazer when I start doing large properties. I cut small lawns right now. Also the cut comes out great. Those pics don't do it justice. I'll get some pics of what this mower can really do.
And I will keep this mower for a very loooooong time. Thanks everyone and goodnight. I was at my friend's graduation and party after.

btw, I'm 18.


Kinda goes with the saying, "Whatever makes you Happy"
18.. and you got nice stuff for doing small lawns. (Esp. Redmax :clapping:)
Everyone's gotta start somewhere!!

Lazer_Z
05-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Oh my God. That is all I can say. I don't know about any of you, but what I bought works for me and I love it. The cut is the same as the phazer. The traction is much better and the ride is smoother becuase of the better seat and large tires. It is a commercial mower. The weed eater was brand new so I brought it in the house for just a second. Big deal.
Also stop telling me a need a w/b! I DO NOT LIKE WALKING OR FIXED DECKS! I like this mower. Get over it. I will get a exmark 46" lazer when I start doing large properties. I cut small lawns right now. Also the cut comes out great. Those pics don't do it justice. I'll get some pics of what this mower can really do.
And I will keep this mower for a very loooooong time. Thanks everyone and goodnight. I was at my friend's graduation and party after.

btw, I'm 18.So, I guess you've never heard that eXmark makes a mower called a Turf Tracer HP? or that numerous company's make attachments that attach to the back of the mowers called velky's or sulkys? I paid way less for my COMMERCIAL Phazer with a 19 hp engine than you did for that new mower.

Blueribbonlawns
05-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Dude you got riped off on this deal i just checked prices on z's and i could of got a way better deal on something that is way bigger than that and cut's like a real mower should.
Just and example Walker MB 48'' cut $5,100 out the door and you got a 32'' for 6K???????
Not a good deal.

Itsgottobegreen
05-20-2008, 01:05 PM
Just and example Walker MB 48'' cut $5,100 out the door and you got a 32'' for 6K???????
Not a good deal.

I was going to suggest that he got a 36" MB also. A better deal and the best cutting mower money can buy.

S man
05-20-2008, 01:17 PM
The mower was 5399. Mulch kit was 150. tax was 485. Add that up and get 6035. Then add in the 150 rebate. 5885.

S man
05-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Age has nothing to do with it, i am just as old as he is and have an actual worthwhile fleet. And I also mow near some properties near my home and some near by shop, but do i hook up my little toy wagon and pull it down the street? No.

The same guys that thing having rims on your truck is unprofessional think pulling a little wagon around with your mower is professional? I would expect that from a 12 year old, not an 18 year old.

Sure he can do whatever he wants, im just stating my option. He paid WAY too much for that mower, and in a lot of our eyes its a joke, but to each his own i guess.

I guess you like burning a lot of gas to look "profesional" in your neighborhood. I'm saving some serious cash this year to buy a brand new toyota tundra or tacoma soon. For now I use my dad's new f150 when we work together.

Classified
05-20-2008, 02:07 PM
Nice job on buying all that at your age. Im sure all the stuff you got works for you but i got to say that i do not understand the fascination with Zturn mowers. if your cutting an acre or more then yeah get a z turn but to this day i have never used a push mower other than mowing my moms lawn when i was a kid living at home. A WB mower is able to get in more tightly to areas eliminating the use of a 21. A 36" (Floating deck or fixed) hydro WB TO ME is so more efficient than a ZT. I have 2 properties that are about an acre mow and my 52" WB gets it done pretty quick. In fact the 52 is what I normally use and only use the 36 for gated back yards. As for you being tired of walking? Your 18!!! If you get tired of walking a full day then you need the excersise! My Dad is 56 and still mows everyday with a 36" and a 48" BELT DRIVE mower. He is healthy as can be. I dunno, good for you on your setup and press on but the being tired thing cause you have to walk behind a mower seems a bit silly to me, esp at your age.

I normally never get controversial in threads like this but it kinda crawled under my skin a bit seeing some things in here.

Peace on and good luck this year!

LawnBoy89
05-20-2008, 04:21 PM
Yea I agree with you I only have one ZTR only because I have a couple very large properties that are nice and smooth that I just zoom across other then that on most residential applications I use an exmark TT I love it so much that I bought another one just incase anything happens to it I couldn't imagine mowing some hills with the ZTR or the 48'' Ferris I have. If I was limited to only one mower it would definetly be a walk behind (possibly with sulky) just because there really isn't anything you cant do with it.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-20-2008, 04:34 PM
you bought that from eastbank cycerly??? thats where i bought my 21" toro.

Lawn Enforcer
05-20-2008, 05:26 PM
Looks good! I like Dixon too, but they don't make standers!
Good luck and have a good year!

GrassmasterB
05-20-2008, 08:14 PM
I was going to suggest that he got a 36" MB also. A better deal and the best cutting mower money can buy.

now this is probably the best advice to give to someone with small yards. then just buy a bigger deck as needed. on southern lawns you wont find a better cut. and the walker will stripe st augustine if its healthy. it just wont stand out as much as they do up north.

04TurfT
05-20-2008, 10:40 PM
sweet gloves bro

S man
05-21-2008, 02:26 PM
now this is probably the best advice to give to someone with small yards. then just buy a bigger deck as needed. on southern lawns you wont find a better cut. and the walker will stripe st augustine if its healthy. it just wont stand out as much as they do up north.

That is a light commercial or home owner mower. I checked their website. Next year I will either break into larger accounts with the 46" exmark and keep the dixon for small stuff. It just feels better and more sturdy than the phazer. I do have some cut issues in thick grass though. I have gator blades on it. Should I use the high lifts with the mulch kit?

tras
05-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Wrapping that kind of money into that mower is limiting you man. If i were you id aim high from the start, dont waste time and money on little stuff.

How many yards do you do weekly?

DoetschOutdoor
05-21-2008, 06:39 PM
That is a light commercial or home owner mower. I checked their website. Next year I will either break into larger accounts with the 46" exmark and keep the dixon for small stuff. It just feels better and more sturdy than the phazer. I do have some cut issues in thick grass though. I have gator blades on it. Should I use the high lifts with the mulch kit?

You might be able to get away with it, but its been way to wet this spring to run gator blades now. I did for the first 3 weeks on my 36 ferris just bc I was lazy and it was night and day difference when I went to a medium lift. Thats side discharging tho so I dont know about mulch kit but I would still think its too wet to be running them.

iluvscag
05-21-2008, 08:27 PM
IM stunned...you spend "close" to 6,000 on a 34 inch mower. I see used Lazer Z's all the time down here for 5-6000 with 2-300 hours on them. You keep talking about breaking into big lawns, just do it already. That just blew it from my view spending 6,000 on a rider that couldnt even do an acre lot in an efficent time.

Turf Commando
05-21-2008, 08:33 PM
Did you sell the phaser and the stander to accommodate the the dixon..?
You remind me of a spoiled rich kid, thats never happy with anything, always asking daddy to buy something new every week .....

Just messing with you....:laugh:

Green Team Landscaping
05-21-2008, 09:39 PM
oh man, you should try towing that trailer that you put the mower on with the mower. to see how well it does.

KrayzKajun
05-21-2008, 09:47 PM
Scott,

nice set up! i only paid right at $6200 for my 46" Lazer Z brand new

matt's lawn care
05-21-2008, 10:37 PM
It might just be me but a 36'' or 44'' walk behind mower with a sulky would be much faster and 1/2 the cost. you can turn around on a walkbehind much faster than on a Z. Nice looking mower. No one runs them up by me.
My .02

tls22
05-21-2008, 11:44 PM
Nice job on buying all that at your age. Im sure all the stuff you got works for you but i got to say that i do not understand the fascination with Zturn mowers. if your cutting an acre or more then yeah get a z turn but to this day i have never used a push mower other than mowing my moms lawn when i was a kid living at home. A WB mower is able to get in more tightly to areas eliminating the use of a 21. A 36" (Floating deck or fixed) hydro WB TO ME is so more efficient than a ZT. I have 2 properties that are about an acre mow and my 52" WB gets it done pretty quick. In fact the 52 is what I normally use and only use the 36 for gated back yards. As for you being tired of walking? Your 18!!! If you get tired of walking a full day then you need the excersise! My Dad is 56 and still mows everyday with a 36" and a 48" BELT DRIVE mower. He is healthy as can be. I dunno, good for you on your setup and press on but the being tired thing cause you have to walk behind a mower seems a bit silly to me, esp at your age.

I normally never get controversial in threads like this but it kinda crawled under my skin a bit seeing some things in here.

Peace on and good luck this year!

Stop being a bully doug, what next u going to steal his lunch money?:cry: Dont be so bitter about me plowing snow better then you!

tras
05-22-2008, 10:38 AM
IM stunned...you spend "close" to 6,000 on a 34 inch mower. I see used Lazer Z's all the time down here for 5-6000 with 2-300 hours on them. You keep talking about breaking into big lawns, just do it already. That just blew it from my view spending 6,000 on a rider that couldnt even do an acre lot in an efficent time.



I agree.

You will never make money if you waste it on half @ss equipment, when do do "break into bigger lawns" what do you plan to do? Go spend $15,000 on a mower you should have got for $8000? :laugh:

Just a little FYI, i just paid $7800(only $4200 after my POS Scag trade in) for a brand new Lazer Z(.1 hours on the clock), 60" deck with the 28hp Kawie motor. So not much price difference and it is a hell of a lot more mower.

I dont want to keep bashing you but whenever i check back to this thread i am in more and more amazement, with the over head you have, and how slow using that mower must be you must not make any money. Correct me if im wrong.

You have yet to answer my question, how many weekly accounts do you have?

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 10:46 AM
just to stir the pot

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/grd/690189012.html

fastcat
05-22-2008, 11:03 AM
holy crap he already has the mower for sale................

tras
05-22-2008, 11:41 AM
Thought he hated walking? Finally realizing what a bad purchase was made?

:laugh:

YardKeeper08
05-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Wow I dont think I'll ever reveal anything to you guys. jk

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 12:23 PM
lmao. i saw the thread a few days ago. was on craigs list and it said scott in kenner...not that hard to put 2 and 2 together

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 12:36 PM
lmao. i saw the thread a few days ago. was on craigs list and it said scott in kenner...not that hard to put 2 and 2 together

wow doug! you managed to put 2 and 2 together. LOL:hammerhead:

Turf Commando
05-22-2008, 12:45 PM
I can't figure out this kid, he buys, and sells, and buys, and sells..never (profits):nono:
He can't be a business man, time for him to go back to school...:laugh:

Blueribbonlawns
05-22-2008, 12:52 PM
You have gone thru 3 bran new mowers and the season has bearly started WTF.
How are you buying all this with your mom and dads credit? if i was one of your parents i would have made you stick with the stander, 1 its what you shoped for and though it was a good mower, 2 its one of the best compact commercial mowers made and 3 you dont need to buy a new mower every week!

Turf Commando
05-22-2008, 01:07 PM
S man probably madder at this thread, than a legless Ethiopian watching a donut roll down the hill...

S man
05-22-2008, 01:08 PM
I do regret selling the phazer. I want it back and this thing gone. Now what?

S man
05-22-2008, 01:10 PM
Tras, I do 35 accounts, some are weekly some are every two weeks.

Turf Commando
05-22-2008, 01:14 PM
I believe Quality cuts (Anthony) warned and spoke to you many times about keeping the phaser...?
Now your up the creek without paddles.....what a tangled web we weave ...
You have to fix this yourself now Scotty....

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 01:28 PM
live and learn bro.

MJS
05-22-2008, 01:35 PM
live and learn bro.

It's true, we should all take away a pretty vivid lesson from this thread. -
Don't spend money unless you have to, and be happy with what you have.
:usflag:

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 01:37 PM
live and learn bro.

nice doug! bout time you say sumthin that has meaning:clapping::clapping:

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 01:39 PM
dont make me throw this cup across the room biotch

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 01:44 PM
dont make me throw this cup across the room biotch

Throw it! i'll throw my bouncy ball at ya!

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 01:46 PM
can we say derailed?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/1526351758_20508c03ab.jpg?v=0

lawnboy858
05-22-2008, 03:37 PM
I would rather have a stander and a phazer than a dixon

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 03:40 PM
wht were talkin about?????????

ProStreetCamaro
05-22-2008, 03:50 PM
The gravely 34Z is the best compact zero turn on the market period end of story. Makes the phazer look like a joke. The hydro system on the phazer sucks. The gravely 34Z has true dual independant hydro gear pumps and wheel motors.

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 04:14 PM
whts a gravely???:confused::confused::confused::confused:

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 04:16 PM
dude you havent heard? the gravely is the shiz nit. best mower ever! the 34z is better than a 72" exmark. duh

tras
05-22-2008, 06:12 PM
This is rediculous.:laugh:

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 06:15 PM
dude you havent heard? the gravely is the shiz nit. best mower ever! the 34z is better than a 72" exmark. duh

really?? I guess ive been locked in my lil box too long.:dizzy:

ProStreetCamaro
05-22-2008, 06:29 PM
whts a gravely???:confused::confused::confused::confused:



Gravely was the first to introduce a 34 ZTR and others followed. It is the king of 34" ZTR's.

34Z Features:

Drive Train System
• Hydro-Gearฎ 10 cc pumps with shock valves
• Hydro-Gearฎ 12 cubic inch high torque wheel motors
• 125 ft-lb Warner ฎ clutch
• 10.0 mph fwd/4.5 mph rev
• 20- or 21-inch diameter low-profile rear tires
• 13-inch diameter ribbed front tires

Deck Design
• 7-guage fabricated and welded steel construction: 1/4" thick reinforcement plate at spindles
• 5" deep airflow cut chamber
• (2) Maintenance-free XL Spindles with cast iron housings
• Flip-up steel discharge chute
• Self-adjusting belt tensioning

Operator Ergonomics
• Double Z footboard for added comfort
• Twin stick controls with dampeners to minimize fatigue
• Flip-up handles for easy operator mounting and dismounting
• Foot-operated deck lift with 1" to 5" height of cut with 9 settings
• Large diameter fuel cap for quick re-fueling

Frame Design
• Fully welded tubular steel
• 2.0" X 2.0" X .188" steel tubing


http://www.gravely.com/images/photospg/34z/lrg/1.jpg

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 06:32 PM
dude come on quit swinging on gravely's nuts. the first isnt always the best, i like the dixie way better, and yes i have used them both.

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 06:32 PM
Gravely was the first to introduce a 34 ZTR and others followed. It is the king of 34" ZTR's.

34Z Features:

Drive Train System
• Hydro-Gearฎ 10 cc pumps with shock valves
• Hydro-Gearฎ 12 cubic inch high torque wheel motors
• 125 ft-lb Warner ฎ clutch
• 10.0 mph fwd/4.5 mph rev
• 20- or 21-inch diameter low-profile rear tires
• 13-inch diameter ribbed front tires

Deck Design
• 7-guage fabricated and welded steel construction: 1/4" thick reinforcement plate at spindles
• 5" deep airflow cut chamber
• (2) Maintenance-free XL Spindles with cast iron housings
• Flip-up steel discharge chute
• Self-adjusting belt tensioning

Operator Ergonomics
• Double Z footboard for added comfort
• Twin stick controls with dampeners to minimize fatigue
• Flip-up handles for easy operator mounting and dismounting
• Foot-operated deck lift with 1" to 5" height of cut with 9 settings
• Large diameter fuel cap for quick re-fueling

Frame Design
• Fully welded tubular steel
• 2.0" X 2.0" X .188" steel tubing


http://www.gravely.com/images/photospg/34z/lrg/1.jpg

wow!!! so how much is gravely paying you to endorse their mowers?

obviously you coulndt tell i was being a smartass!:clapping::clapping:

slowleak1
05-22-2008, 06:40 PM
but your not smart, i dont get it

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 08:54 PM
but your not smart, i dont get it

ok ok you got me!!*trucewhiteflag**trucewhiteflag*

S man
05-22-2008, 10:04 PM
Thanks guys for all the feedback and advice. I do feel like a made a mistake by not sticking with the phazer but I wanted this thing really bad so it's what I now have.
Turf commando, I have talked to anthony (quality cuts), and he was very helpful and imformative. I thought I would just sell the stander and throw some money in the bank for the lazer z next year, but I thought this mower would be better. Now I have it but have learned my lesson. I will listen and take advice from now on. This mower will last me a long time and will be for small yards and backup if the lazer breaks. I will get a used lazer z 46" next year. I saw some that were a year and a half for $4500 still under warranty. That sounds like a good deal.
Also the craigslist thing was for fun. Gottcha!!!:laugh::dizzy::laugh:
Prostreet, This mower is comparative to the gravely 34z. My neighbor down the street (psych-o) on here has a 34z and doesn't like the weight of the mower with smaller tires. Also he said it doesn't mulch as good and leaves a strip of uncut grass in the middle. So that's why I didn't get a gravely. The dixon is a real nice commercial 34. I won't be buying anything else dixon but will keep this until it breaks for mental sanity and for profit. Could I put the 34" trivantge deck on this unit? Is it setup the same as the phazer and could switch decks later on?
Thanks for making this a lively thread.:laugh:

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 10:08 PM
Thanks for making this a lively thread.:laugh:


your welcome!!!! i had nuthin better to do today:hammerhead:

S man
05-22-2008, 10:16 PM
your welcome!!!! i had nuthin better to do today:hammerhead:

haha, how good does your lazer z do on wet or soft turf? Does it divit and tear easy? Also what courses are you taking at delgado this fall? I might be taking landscape 1.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-22-2008, 10:19 PM
your welcome!!!! i had nuthin better to do today:hammerhead:

HAHA true dat with all the rain we had today, well should I say having since its still drizzling off and on. Man, Im so glad we are ready for this Hurricane Season and we can see that the pumps are working...o wait, Im sorry, my street got flooded, and they closed roads, shows how ready the New Orleans area is for a Hurricane to hit. :)

S man
05-22-2008, 10:23 PM
Yeah this rain is crazy. I'll be working my butt off when it stops.

RedMax Man
05-22-2008, 10:24 PM
Could I put the 34" trivantge deck on this unit? Is it setup the same as the phazer and could switch decks later on?

Are you sayn put an Exmark deck on a Dixon?:dizzy::hammerhead::confused:
Only thing they both have in common is 2 blades.


Get your equipment outa your house... finish painting that shed so you can lock it up in there... then go hack some grass so you can pay off you losses and not be brainstorming about your mowers and "toys".

You should just rent equipment if you cant be satisfied with one thing for more than a month.:dizzy:

S man
05-22-2008, 10:27 PM
All my equipment is in the shed and is ready for work.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
HAHA, yeah I was supposd to weedeat some yards and edge em for a friend today, but I got lazy and wouldnt get outta bed so I jus said my alarm clock didnt go off, and then when I did finally get outta bed, it was raining. Oh well. Yeah, Imma be goin to delghetto also, but doing Criminal Justice.

KrayzKajun
05-22-2008, 10:55 PM
haha, how good does your lazer z do on wet or soft turf? Does it divit and tear easy? Also what courses are you taking at delgado this fall? I might be taking landscape 1.

the Lazer does very well on wet turf! its is heavy as hell though!

im takin every class available this fall. i graduate in 3 semesters

i already took, hort certification, general hort, and integrated pest management.:cool2:

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-22-2008, 11:50 PM
Hey S Man, what mowers do you actually have now?

Ross's Lawn Service
05-23-2008, 02:50 AM
bro i think you need to go work at the shop that sells mowers rather then cuttin grass. You change mowers more then I change underwear. I won't lie I like looking at new ztr's but I don't go buy and sell mowers like you. Your just shootin yourself in the foot. Sorry if I seem like im bashin you but you need to get a good wb or ztr that you LIKE: and go with it. Hope it works out whatever happens. Keep in touch and stay in LOUISIANA!!!!!!

eXmarksthespot23
05-23-2008, 04:40 PM
dude you are at your prime, if you get tired from walking behind a mower for the 5 min you have to cut those massive lawns then you should consider being a paper pusher, and i agree way to much for that mower, like i dont mean to be a dick, but your overhead is going to kill you and your just going to have a blue and yellow turd riding round... be smart be proficient, be a man and use trailer and a walker.. and if you cant cut it. dont..

deere615
05-23-2008, 08:50 PM
HAHA, yeah I was supposd to weedeat some yards and edge em for a friend today, but I got lazy and wouldnt get outta bed so I jus said my alarm clock didnt go off, and then when I did finally get outta bed, it was raining. Oh well. Yeah, Imma be goin to delghetto also, but doing Criminal Justice.

Lazy, I have no time to be lazy lol. today was my first day off school(finals next week:cry:) I was up at 6:30 and home at 8:15

BanvilleLawnCare
05-23-2008, 09:39 PM
Oh my god!:dizzy: I can't even count the number of people that just told you to keep the friggin' Phazer, including me. Why would you bother using this forum if you never take anyone's advice?

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-23-2008, 09:48 PM
Lazy, I have no time to be lazy lol. today was my first day off school(finals next week:cry:) I was up at 6:30 and home at 8:15

^^^HAHA^^^

S man
05-23-2008, 10:10 PM
the Lazer does very well on wet turf! its is heavy as hell though!

im takin every class available this fall. i graduate in 3 semesters

i already took, hort certification, general hort, and integrated pest management.:cool2:
Then I'll see you in landscape 1.:waving:
Hey S Man, what mowers do you actually have now?
The dixon, toro commercial 21" w/ honda engine, toro comm. 21" w/ 2 cycle, and and the snapper residential. I want to sell the 2 cycle but it's too rare.

S man
05-23-2008, 10:13 PM
Oh my god!:dizzy: I can't even count the number of people that just told you to keep the friggin' Phazer, including me. Why would you bother using this forum if you never take anyone's advice?

I have learned my lesson. I will take advice from now on. I already said earlier that I did make a mistake but gotta move on.

Here's a pic. Again trying to stripe.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0939.jpg
This one is on the corner of loyola dr. and marquette Matthew. Just thought I would let you know.

grasshopperslawn
05-23-2008, 10:25 PM
Warm is very difficult to stripe. Compared to cool season which is a lot better to stripe. I have a gravely rider 34" cut and love it. I paid $4799.00 for it

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-23-2008, 10:55 PM
I have learned my lesson. I will take advice from now on. I already said earlier that I did make a mistake but gotta move on.

Here's a pic. Again trying to stripe.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/lawnmowerman123456789/IMG_0939.jpg
This one is on the corner of loyola dr. and marquette Matthew. Just thought I would let you know.

Looks good, ill keep my eye out when i go out that way on Wednesday. Man, the clippings look like dust on the sidewalk.haha. I wanna say that blue house with the siding looks familiar, but I cant tell you for sure.

BanvilleLawnCare
05-23-2008, 11:20 PM
S man, one thing to keep in mind when trying to stripe is that you want your deck to overlap the last pass as little as possible. Also, it looks best if you make your lines very straight.

Sorry for bashing you a little, I bet you are very confused right now:dizzy: Anyway, thought i'd try to help you out a little to make up for it:)

S man
05-24-2008, 12:43 AM
S man, one thing to keep in mind when trying to stripe is that you want your deck to overlap the last pass as little as possible. Also, it looks best if you make your lines very straight.

Sorry for bashing you a little, I bet you are very confused right now:dizzy: Anyway, thought i'd try to help you out a little to make up for it:)

I am mulching in that pic. Should I be discharging when trying to stripe? Just wondering?

AJ Lawnscapes
05-24-2008, 01:35 AM
It's cute. I paid $1000 less for my 48" Gravely WB with a Valke/Sulky/whatever-you-call it.

But, you've got the business and the know how. So you'll get the equipment you need when you need it.

Best of luck to you sir.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-24-2008, 03:59 AM
Hey s man, can you bag with your new mower?

MortonLawn
05-24-2008, 07:11 AM
DANG! this thread sure is getting a lot of attention :dizzy:

S man
05-24-2008, 12:54 PM
Hey s man, can you bag with your new mower?

Yeah if I get a catcher.

C. MOORE LAWNS
05-24-2008, 10:52 PM
I just don't understand why people get 34 or 36 inch riders. If you ask me it is pure lazyness. You can get so much more done with a 48 and they are a lot cheaper if you get them used. I just got a 52 Exmark TTHP with velke for 3200 on craigslist and man it was the best buy I've ever made and I get sooo much more work done! Plus TTHPs are floating decks, which works for you since you don't like fixed decks. And come on man...you are young, a walk behind can't tire you out that much esp. if you have a velke. If you can't fit a 48 in some back yards then push mow it....it can't take that much longer than a 34 and if it really does take a lot more time, then charge them 5 dollars more. Don't mean to be hatin on your thread but think about these things before you go and pay that much money for a TINY rider. :drinkup:

S man
05-24-2008, 11:20 PM
I just don't understand why people get 34 or 36 inch riders. If you ask me it is pure lazyness. You can get so much more done with a 48 and they are a lot cheaper if you get them used. I just got a 52 Exmark TTHP with velke for 3200 on craigslist and man it was the best buy I've ever made and I get sooo much more work done! Plus TTHPs are floating decks, which works for you since you don't like fixed decks. And come on man...you are young, a walk behind can't tire you out that much esp. if you have a velke. If you can't fit a 48 in some back yards then push mow it....it can't take that much longer than a 34 and if it really does take a lot more time, then charge them 5 dollars more. Don't mean to be hatin on your thread but think about these things before you go and pay that much money for a TINY rider. :drinkup:

I know what you're saying. Thanks for the info. But my yards are small and I feel the small rider is very efficient. And I have much more energy when I'm done. Many in my area prefer to ride anytime.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-25-2008, 12:01 AM
Many in my area prefer to ride anytime.

Yea, most people in this area do yous a 32-48 inch rider. You dont see to many mid size w/b. I want to get a w/b only cause its cheaper and right now, i dont think imma stay in the business for my entire life. I just graduated today from high school so as soon as I get a chance I am going to apply for the Police Departmenet, JPSO, if you no what that mean.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-25-2008, 12:02 AM
wow yous, man, its been a long day, *use*, haha

RhettMan
05-25-2008, 12:45 PM
nice equipment S man, Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez

S man
05-25-2008, 07:11 PM
nice equipment S man, Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez

What do you mean?

CALandscapes
05-25-2008, 07:14 PM
What do you mean?


French for: "Let the good times roll.."

You sure that you from New Orleans, Scott?

South Florida Lawns
05-25-2008, 08:27 PM
striping st Augustine is hard so is Bermuda. That Dixon is sweet. Still want a 34" z or 32" stander, I cannot decide.

RhettMan
05-25-2008, 08:30 PM
South Florida i hear you, a wright has called my name for the longest now, make sure you get one with wide back tires

KrayzKajun
05-25-2008, 08:45 PM
French for: "Let the good times roll.."

You sure that you from New Orleans, Scott?

im gunna pretend scott didnt know wht that meant!!:hammerhead::hammerhead:

freshprince94
05-25-2008, 10:32 PM
Good luck Scott. And from Florida "Que los buenos tiempos Roll".

Lmao, we have our own sayings down here.

S man
05-26-2008, 12:21 PM
im gunna pretend scott didnt know wht that meant!!:hammerhead::hammerhead:

I was joking. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

S man
05-26-2008, 12:22 PM
striping st Augustine is hard so is Bermuda. That Dixon is sweet. Still want a 34" z or 32" stander, I cannot decide.

Wow someone actually said something nice about my dixon.:dizzy: I know a guy I'm going to landscape with has one and said it is one tough mower. He said it will last me a lifetime if I take care of it.

fastcat
05-26-2008, 01:27 PM
Wow someone actually said something nice about my dixon.:dizzy: I know a guy I'm going to landscape with has one and said it is one tough mower. He said it will last me a lifetime if I take care of it.


i would hope so for $6000 for a 34 ztr

S man
05-26-2008, 09:07 PM
i would hope so for $6000 for a 34 ztr

No it is actually 5399 minus 150 rebate. 5250. Then all that other crap made it go up. tax and mulch kit.

RhettMan
05-26-2008, 09:12 PM
S man how do YOU like the dixon , and why didnt you like the wright stander just wondering because i at one time had a dixon, and now im wanting a stander.

TheChiefsLawnCare
05-27-2008, 12:27 AM
Man this is a never ending post.

lawnboy858
05-27-2008, 04:56 PM
Man this is a never ending post.

I just was about to write the exact same thing, until I scrolled down and saw you wrote it already.

S man
05-27-2008, 10:15 PM
Well, I do MISS the trivantage phazer deck. Plain and simple.

freshprince94
05-28-2008, 07:25 PM
Im surprised no one bashed me for posting spanish on Lawnsite (the post a few ones up), most of yall complain at the very thought of it!

RhettMan
05-28-2008, 07:50 PM
Im surprised no one bashed me for posting spanish on Lawnsite (the post a few ones up), most of yall complain at the very thought of it!

Su todo buen hombre

k911lowe
05-28-2008, 08:03 PM
nice outfit.looks like you njoy what u do.good luck.nice pics,thanks

lifetree
05-28-2008, 09:13 PM
... but I thought this mower would be better. Now I have it but have learned my lesson. I will listen and take advice from now on. This mower will last me a long time and will be for small yards and backup ...

S man -- What is it about the Black Bear 34" that you don't like ??

SNAPPER MAN
05-28-2008, 09:14 PM
No way, su espanol es no un problema. No puedo creer que no muchos personas aqui no habla espanol porque todos los personas aqui en Houston quien corta yardas habla espanol lol.

S man
05-31-2008, 12:15 AM
Man I miss the cut my phazer left. This thing can't mulch to save it's butt. I might sell it and grab a lazer z 46 and put and end to this nonsense. If I need a 34 36" width I'm getting a friggin w/b.

KS_Grasscutter
05-31-2008, 12:22 AM
Man I miss the cut my phazer left. This thing can't mulch to save it's butt. I might sell it and grab a lazer z 46 and put and end to this nonsense. If I need a 34 36" width I'm getting a friggin w/b.

:hammerhead::hammerhead::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::hammerhead:

Oh yea, and FWIW, my Dixon cuts a hell of a lot better than any Exmark I have seen around here.

Morningside
05-31-2008, 07:03 AM
"todos los personas aqui" i am sure theres a white boy somewhere in houston with a mower who cant speak spanish, or very good spanish which is the same thing.

S man
05-31-2008, 12:18 PM
:hammerhead::hammerhead::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::hammerhead:

Oh yea, and FWIW, my Dixon cuts a hell of a lot better than any Exmark I have seen around here.

Are you mulching?

KS_Grasscutter
05-31-2008, 06:44 PM
Are you mulching?

No...why would I mulch?

CALandscapes
05-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Man I miss the cut my phazer left. This thing can't mulch to save it's butt. I might sell it and grab a lazer z 46 and put and end to this nonsense. If I need a 34 36" width I'm getting a friggin w/b.

You could sell the Dixon and buy another exmark and Stander.. :dizzy:

S man
06-01-2008, 12:23 AM
Guess what............ I'm getting an exmark lazer hp next week.:)

KS_Grasscutter
06-01-2008, 12:42 AM
Guess what............ I'm getting an exmark lazer hp next week.:)

Wow, I thought I went through equipment fast. THANK GOD about all my mowers I buy are used, so I don't lose nearly as much money.

S man
06-01-2008, 12:58 AM
Wow, I thought I went through equipment fast. THANK GOD about all my mowers I buy are used, so I don't lose nearly as much money.

I bought the stander used and sold it for more than I paid:) Also I got the phazer on promo. They went back up to $5200!!! SO I won't be losing any money when I get the lazer. I just couldn't have my lawns looking like crap and was losing money have to triple cut and use the 21"s more than the dixon. So this will help be get back in the biz.

KS_Grasscutter
06-01-2008, 01:15 AM
I bought the stander used and sold it for more than I paid:) Also I got the phazer on promo. They went back up to $5200!!! SO I won't be losing any money when I get the lazer. I just couldn't have my lawns looking like crap and was losing money have to triple cut and use the 21"s more than the dixon. So this will help be get back in the biz.

Well, as long as you are making money on the units you sell...

I am surprised that the Dixon cuts bad. Are you sure the deck is level? What blades are you running? Are the RPMs set right?

Are you gonna keep the Dixon when you get the exmark?

S man
06-01-2008, 01:39 AM
Well, as long as you are making money on the units you sell...

I am surprised that the Dixon cuts bad. Are you sure the deck is level? What blades are you running? Are the RPMs set right?

Are you gonna keep the Dixon when you get the exmark?

No the dixon was fine but it's the way the deck is set up. I talked to a lco a few miles away from me and he told me to keep the phazer not just because it was just as good but the mulching performance on it would blow away the dixon. And boy was he right. I sold it for a few hundred less than I paid. And I really shouldn't have bought it in the first place because the dealer is a jerk that doesn't like me but wants my money so they glady sold me a small piece of crap for 6000!!! So I sold it and am only getting exmark or another real brand of mower. My exmark dealer is great and knows his stuff! I'm going monday to check out the lazer hp.

DillonsLawnCare
06-01-2008, 01:43 AM
make sure you post pics of all your new equip!!

S man
06-01-2008, 01:46 AM
make sure you post pics of all your new equip!!

Hey how's your mower situation working out? I would be interested in a toro 48" z master but they are 1500 more and the 46 will JUST fit through most of my gates.

TheChiefsLawnCare
06-01-2008, 02:49 AM
Hey, you bought the Dixon from East Bank Cyclery??? I like those people over there. I dont go to them really to, I stick to more of the businesses that just deal with lawn equipment. There only good for echo and toro. Like I said before, I deal with Paulies, Joes mostly. Maybe I should give Bob's another chance, but I forgot where they were even located at haha. Anyways, gl.

fastcat
06-01-2008, 10:43 AM
how long are you giong to keep this one.

S man
06-01-2008, 02:39 PM
how long are you giong to keep this one.

Which one?

fastcat
06-01-2008, 04:03 PM
the new one you get. you said you were going to keep the dixon until it quit and that the add on craigs list was a joke...............

Jason Rose
06-01-2008, 05:33 PM
Wow, unbelieavable... I guess if you would have spoke up and said your intentions were to MULCH with the Dixon I could have stepped in. They just don't mulch well at all because of the tunnel deck design (starting shallow on the trim side getting deeper towards the discharge, also the open tunnel in front of the blades. Both contridct what's needed for mulching properly. I think you would have been MUCH better off taking the mulch kit OFF and trying it without. Using the chute to keep the grass from throwing too far, or even getting a chute blocker to use when needed.

Of course I also think you may be expecting way too much out of any machine... No mower, I don't care what brand or color, is "perfect". They all have their positives and negatives. I'm much in the same boat, for me "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" too. I used Dixons for years, and they did me pretty well in that time. Made me a LOT of money without a lot of inital cost, I know the older commercial machines inside out and upside down. Now do I want to go back to running one? No... Compared to my Grasshopper they cut terrible, not all the time, but the Dixons seemed to take a lot of 'tweaking' to keep the deck just right. Now, while I LOVE the cut on my Grasshopper there's things I hate about it too. It's underpowered, which it shouldn't be, being a 27hp 61", but it is. And the catcher stinks how it's designed... Now, do I risk it all, trade this one off for another brand just because it "looks" better? Not likely... I've learned that lesson in life too. Don't read on here about what's good and bad, the only way to know is to put your butt in the seat and mow with them yourself. I know getting demo mowers is hard in some places (it is here!) and getting them to let you actaully USE it for more than 1/2 of 1 lawn.

Point is, stop getting mad at the machines for not working right. More than likely it's not the machine, it's the operator expecting way too much. My dealer used to HATE to see me come in when I was younger, I always had complaints about the machines, heck, I still do that, but I've learned that it's just the way it is. Until I start building the mowers myself it will never be right, and I could build the perfect mower for here, but the guy that buys one 4 hours away will hate it for whatever reason.

S man
06-01-2008, 10:18 PM
Yes the dixon cannot mulch worth crap. The exmark is waaay better especially for my area. I learned a lesson. I'm staying with exmark and am going with a lazer z 46". I'll be sure to demo and ask tons of questions before I buy. But I believe the lazer will be awsome and is what I needed all this time. I will keep searching for a used phazer later on.

S man
06-01-2008, 10:22 PM
Wow, unbelieavable... I guess if you would have spoke up and said your intentions were to MULCH with the Dixon I could have stepped in. They just don't mulch well at all because of the tunnel deck design (starting shallow on the trim side getting deeper towards the discharge, also the open tunnel in front of the blades. Both contridct what's needed for mulching properly. I think you would have been MUCH better off taking the mulch kit OFF and trying it without. Using the chute to keep the grass from throwing too far, or even getting a chute blocker to use when needed.

Of course I also think you may be expecting way too much out of any machine... No mower, I don't care what brand or color, is "perfect". They all have their positives and negatives. I'm much in the same boat, for me "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" too. I used Dixons for years, and they did me pretty well in that time. Made me a LOT of money without a lot of inital cost, I know the older commercial machines inside out and upside down. Now do I want to go back to running one? No... Compared to my Grasshopper they cut terrible, not all the time, but the Dixons seemed to take a lot of 'tweaking' to keep the deck just right. Now, while I LOVE the cut on my Grasshopper there's things I hate about it too. It's underpowered, which it shouldn't be, being a 27hp 61", but it is. And the catcher stinks how it's designed... Now, do I risk it all, trade this one off for another brand just because it "looks" better? Not likely... I've learned that lesson in life too. Don't read on here about what's good and bad, the only way to know is to put your butt in the seat and mow with them yourself. I know getting demo mowers is hard in some places (it is here!) and getting them to let you actaully USE it for more than 1/2 of 1 lawn.

Point is, stop getting mad at the machines for not working right. More than likely it's not the machine, it's the operator expecting way too much. My dealer used to HATE to see me come in when I was younger, I always had complaints about the machines, heck, I still do that, but I've learned that it's just the way it is. Until I start building the mowers myself it will never be right, and I could build the perfect mower for here, but the guy that buys one 4 hours away will hate it for whatever reason.

I'm not expecting too much out of a mower, I just thought with the 6k I laid down for this blue weird thing would be better than the 4k phazer. But it isn't nearly as good cut wise and component wise. The phazer was built pretty good but I was waaaaay to stupid to not take everyone's advice and keep the damn thing! I was very happy with the phazer and it did the job right. But no I have to sell it and buy something that turned out to be counterproductive. So I lost 500 selling it but will make that up quick with the productive 46" lazer. If anyone has advice to give I'm all ears and will listen this time!!

Also several customers that don't even care what the lawn looks like said the phazer did a better job!!! The dixon just leaves a rough mulch on top cut. Also even if the grass is really low when I turn it makes a trail of mulch all the way around. Never had that problem with the exmark deck.

TheChiefsLawnCare
06-01-2008, 10:41 PM
Look into Toro, Exmark, Walker(outta your price range tho) and Scag. These are the brands that are mentioned the most and that are in our area. Id say Snapper too, but I never see or hear anything about their ztr's.

fastcat
06-01-2008, 11:06 PM
id say at this point find a new occupation. at the rate your going you will never make a dime. you will always be in the hole.

RedMax Man
06-01-2008, 11:23 PM
id say at this point find a new occupation. at the rate your going you will never make a dime. you will always be in the hole.

Go work for the government so it aint your loot that your throwing away with not profit off of.

S man
06-02-2008, 12:04 AM
??? I have a very large sum of money in two banks. I bring in 500-600 a week. I sold both my mowers for good prices for me and will not be losing money getting the lazer z. Basically the $7100 I made off both is going into the $6000 plus tax lazer z. This mower will allow me to cut larger properties quicker than the pos 34" that couldn't cut good. This is a great summer. Also most of my 38 accounts are in my neighborhood! So I can ride the mower with all my other stuff in the yard cart down the street. Everyone knows me and says I must be doing really good when they see all the yards I do and the equipment I run. Going to check out the lazer hp tomorrow.
My stuff as of now: 2 toro commercial 21"s one snapper 21" 2 stihl trimmers 1 redmax trimmer 1 redmax edger 2 redmax eb ebz7001 blowers echo hc150 hedge trimmerand cs440 chainsaw and lazer 46" on the way. Also a used w/b or phazer for the small spots if I can find one. lol

jameson
06-02-2008, 12:39 AM
. . .and lazer 46" on the way.

If that comes with the Triton, I'd inquire as to its cutting performance in your neck of the woods.

Jason Rose
06-02-2008, 01:00 AM
If that comes with the Triton, I'd inquire as to its cutting performance in your neck of the woods.

That goes for any mower. Don't take what any dealer tells you as truth. See the results for yourself first. You have the free time, go around and hunt down other lawn care guys. See what they are using, note the cut quality. Talk to people other than sales people about the machines!

You said yourself that some guy cuts down the road from you with a Dixon blackbear and the cut is crap, and you thought that another one would be better??? I've heard too many horror stories about the Exmarks and the triton decks... I'd be afraid of jumping from the pan into the fire. I guess if moneys no object then go for it.

S man
06-02-2008, 02:00 AM
I've done my research on the triton and it works well here. Krazykajun lives close to me and loves the cut his gives. So I don't think the cut will be a problem. Like I said I will demo it tomorrow. But I think all in all it is worth it any day over the dixon or phazer.

KS_Grasscutter
06-02-2008, 05:13 AM
I've done my research on the triton and it works well here. Krazykajun lives close to me and loves the cut his gives. So I don't think the cut will be a problem. Like I said I will demo it tomorrow. But I think all in all it is worth it any day over the dixon or phazer.

Hopefully the Exmark works out better for you.

S man
06-02-2008, 12:11 PM
Hopefully the Exmark works out better for you.

Thanks, I know it will, it's an exmark!!!:)

fastcat
06-02-2008, 01:50 PM
you had an exmark before and didnt like it.

TheChiefsLawnCare
06-02-2008, 05:17 PM
you had an exmark before and didnt like it.

LOL, here we go again, i think you may have just restarted this thread.

fastcat
06-02-2008, 05:21 PM
i just dont understand this kid.

TheChiefsLawnCare
06-02-2008, 05:24 PM
No one does. I think hes tryin to find the perfect mower. And I think the only perfect mower is the walker with the catcher. But those things are so pricy. And they have their own problems to. So there is no perfect mower, so Im not sure. Lets jus all wait to see what he has to say when he comes home today cause he went and looked at the new ztr today.

stuffdeer
06-02-2008, 07:34 PM
I thought he wanted a 34 or 36" rider?

Now he is getting a 46"?

whatttt?

BanvilleLawnCare
06-02-2008, 08:06 PM
I thought he wanted a 34 or 36" rider?

Now he is getting a 46"?

whatttt?

He's already had three, he didn't like them. I'm confused too but it's his business he gets to make his own decisions.

Danielslawnservice
06-02-2008, 08:22 PM
this dude is stupid had a pice of crap lawn tractor and 3 weeks ago it broke down and so i bought a wright sentar sport and im going to keep it till i need to upgrade he's young and nieve i think his parents need to teach him a lesson!!!!!!

J&R Landscaping
06-02-2008, 09:20 PM
I thought the 32" Stander he had was a damn good machine. If I didn't find my 32" Viking hydro, I was gonna be looking into a stander. 3 machines laters, way to much money spent but some how he's profitted off all this. I'm not sure about any of this. This thread has given me a good headache though.....

Hope the Exmark works better for ya...

RedMax Man
06-02-2008, 09:41 PM
I think you need one of those funky convertable mowers that switch from a walk-behind to a ride on mower so you won't be always disappointed.

Or maybe just get a reel push mower.

:dizzy::confused:

davis45
06-02-2008, 11:47 PM
Just stick to the 21"s man. Your just confused and want your parents to hug you.

MysticLandscape
06-03-2008, 12:36 AM
This thread is entertaining...

MJS
06-03-2008, 09:42 AM
Haven't been to this thread in a week, O my gosh.

This reminds me somewhat of a political debate - shifting views and "no, I never said that" "no, this is definitely better" type of stuff. Well, lol, at least I got a weak laugh out of it.

Hope the Exmark works out for you, S man.

S man
06-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Going to the dealer today to look at the lazer hp.

freshprince94
06-03-2008, 05:12 PM
S-Man:

Good luck with the Lazer. You will love it.

Guys:
I think he learned his lesson about Dixon. And he made money off the sale of his equipment, so why is that bad? Yes, it isn't totally normal to switch mowers so much but he did what works for him. The only criticism I have for S-Man is that he needs to demo any and all mowers he buys before he finalizes the deal. If a dealer won't let you demo a machine, that's pretty indicative of the service you'll get at the dealer in my opinion.

And a final question for S-Man: How does the Phazer cut in St. Augustine?

C. MOORE LAWNS
06-03-2008, 05:32 PM
This thread is stupid

S man
06-03-2008, 05:49 PM
S-Man:
And a final question for S-Man: How does the Phazer cut in St. Augustine?

Like a motha!!!

C moore, I agree that this thread is stupid. Maybe my lazer z thread will be more fun and exciting!!!:rolleyes:

S man
06-03-2008, 05:57 PM
[QUOTE=S man;2329875]Here's my new dixon black bear 34". It is awsome. Beats the phazer in every area except in the cut department once in awhile. It is a professional 34" z. [QUOTE]
I would like to retract this statement.

MJS
06-03-2008, 06:08 PM
Here's my new dixon black bear 34". It is awsome. Beats the phazer in every area except in the cut department once in awhile. It is a professional 34" z.
I would like to retract this statement.

That first statement must have been an adrenaline-powered review of the Dixon. :laugh:
lol, I know how it can be when you buy equipment - everything seems perfect, until you realize it isn't.

Again, good luck. :drinkup:

S man
06-03-2008, 06:12 PM
That first statement must have been an adrenaline-powered review of the Dixon. :laugh:
lol, I know how it can be when you buy equipment - everything seems perfect, until you realize it isn't.

Again, good luck. :drinkup:

Thanks. I feel like I'm back in the biz getting the lazer z. And all the productivity I'll make with the larger deck.

fool32696
06-03-2008, 07:13 PM
What are you doing with the Dixon? After this thread I doubt anyone on the site would pay more than $1500 for it!

freshprince94
06-03-2008, 08:57 PM
Thanks. I feel like I'm back in the biz getting the lazer z. And all the productivity I'll make with the larger deck.

Congrats on the Lazer. Too many gates in the area, so the Phazer is for me.

S man
06-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Congrats on the Lazer. Too many gates in the area, so the Phazer is for me.

I have plenty of gates here also. But most of mine are big enough for the 46". When my family and me visit destin florida all the lawn crews I see use exmark and stihl. The 46" lazer and 48" tthp are very popular. Also I've seen some phazers. But those mowers leave the best cut on there on that green lush grass. I wish my grass was like it.

Oh and the dixon is sold. I lost a few hundred selling it but will make it up with the lazer.

freshprince94
06-03-2008, 10:36 PM
I have plenty of gates here also. But most of mine are big enough for the 46". When my family and me visit destin florida all the lawn crews I see use exmark and stihl. The 46" lazer and 48" tthp are very popular. Also I've seen some phazers. But those mowers leave the best cut on there on that green lush grass. I wish my grass was like it.

Oh and the dixon is sold. I lost a few hundred selling it but will make it up with the lazer.

Our gates are ALL 36, it's a PITA but we adapt. And yes, most of us here use eXmark and Stihl. I've never seen a Dixon.

S man
06-03-2008, 10:39 PM
Our gates are ALL 36, it's a PITA but we adapt. And yes, most of us here use eXmark and Stihl. I've never seen a Dixon.

Ouch. I did two lawns today with the lazer and saved a lot of time. Good luck though with the gates, that 34" rider is still productive.