Multiple Personality Disorder

[Sean Adams]

I was reading a book last night about the power of the human mind. The focus of the book was how anyone any time has the ability to actually train themselves (due to the amazing power of the human brain) to do just about anything they want.

One of the examples used in the book to show the actual power (and mystery) of the human mind was the case of people who suffer from Multiple Personality Disorder.

The book says that there have been actual medical studies done where people with this disorder were not only able to change their personality, but their physical state as well. Examples include...

The changing of eye color from one personality to another...

One personality being allergic to orange juice and another not being allergic....

One personality being drunk, and the other being completely sober....

I even read that there were extreme cases where people with this disorder could have one personality with diabetes and another with no sign of the diabetes at all.... another case was where someone would have physical scars or birth marks with one personality and these things would disappear when the other personality took hold of them....

This blew my mind.

I mean, cmon, if the human brain is that powerful, think of the amazing things we are truly capable of.

Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do you know of anyone with multiple personality disorder?

I am still in disbelief...

[Supper Grassy]

intriguing, Haven't heard anything of it

[Morganic]

humpf-ff ..Don't know anyone ..but I am a firm believer that the mind is a truly powerful organ.

[grasswhacker]

It's been around a long time............it's called demon possession. Jesus Christ can take care of that.

[bill8379]

I've heard of even crazier stuff then that, ie. parting the Red Sea, Walking on water. Only thing I know for sure is that an amazingly high % of the human race are gullible. Thinking skills are not our strong suite.

Gods, ghosts, gobblins, vampires, werewolves, witches, vodoo, mulitiple wives.... ok that last one is ok:)

I've heard of the eye thing and I don't believe it. Even when I've seen actually video of these so called idiot savants, complete ******s except they can play the piano. It does say something about recall ability of the mind as well as compulsiveness but they actually don't play very well.

Most amazing thing I seen was a Buddhist Monk pour gasoline on himself and set himself on fire. He just sat there in flames and after a while fell to the side, briefly catching himself with his arm. That says a lot about the lengths some can go to condition the mind with meditation. But I don't believe in Dr. Jekle and Mr. Hide at least as far as scars and eye colour etc. Personality for sure but nothing physical.

[rob7233]

Having been previously in the medical field, I can say this... I have seen people with severe medical past histories as long as your arm and for all intents should have been dead long ago but were still upbeat and positive.

Conversely, I've been surprised at the number of patients that were so anxious and fearful over what were essentially minor procedures or surgeries that died with no apparent complications.

Then there was the story that we heard in a training session of an New York attorney that was so convinced that he had cancer, that he had spent 3 months in the hospital getting every test done known to man, all with negative results.

He had NO Cancer or any other medical issues or problem. He was found and confirmed repetitively to be perfectly healthy and normal.......

He was so convinced he was going to die that they found him dead in the hospital bed the night before they were going to release him. The autopsy results were "inconclusive". We've all heard of stories of the other spouse dying right after the other etc. Yep, The power of the mind !

[White Gardens]

You see people who are under hypnosis that can be told many things, such as the penny placed on someones arm. You tell the person that the penny is red-hot and when you remove the penny, there is a noticeable red spot as the person had thought they were getting burned.

I believe it. I also believe that meditation can help ease a lot of things in my life. On top of that, I try to stay as positive as I can about everything, even when life looks grim. As a result, things really do work out in the end.

" Always follow the whims of the great magnet, how stupid I was to defy him" Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Don't get me wrong, I still believe there are a lot of things that are out of our personal control. I'm not going to turn into Dennis Leary (SP?? the father of LSD) and try to cure cancer by dropping acid and meditating all day.:hammerhead:

[CFB]

It's been around a long time............it's called demon possession. Jesus Christ can take care of that.

It's not demon possession.

But it is real.

It starts at a point during abuse where the mind cannot take what they are going through, literrally. So it splits. The other identity's know each other but are completely different from one another. Still the core personality is who the person is and it is hard to integrated them back to the core personality. I've seen some amazing paintings from a woman personality that the original person could not paint a lick. Some of them need glasses, others don't. Weird stuff but such a sad state and caused by trauma.

[44DCNF]

I'm not going to turn into Dennis Leary (SP?? the father of LSD)


You mean Timothy. Dennis is the actor. Albert Hofmann is considered the father of LSD anyway.

[Pastaboy62]

Watch the movie Sybill. Its about this girl who had 18 different personalities. I watched in psych class and it was real messed up.

[topsites]

I mean, cmon, if the human brain is that powerful, think of the amazing things we are truly capable of.

In my opinion you don't want to mess with this.

Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do you know of anyone with multiple personality disorder?

I am still in disbelief...

What I find hard to believe is that doctors have no accurate way to determine the actual disorder, so while treatment
exists one wonders about the actual success rate, if I dare say the only reason people with these disorders ever
recover is due to making a conscious choice to do so out of sheer fear of what treatment they'll think of next.
Or at least that has been my experience.

The problem is that it is hard to understand, if for no other reason than a complete comprehension would
likely also involve that person's complete immersion into the very insanity that causes the dysfunction,
so to this day it remains a gray area and likely will stay this way for some time.

So basically those who are there can not explain it to us in ways we would understand, those who have
been there don't want to talk about it, and those who have never been just don't get it.

Because it could be anything along the lines of schizophrenia, bipolar mania, manic
depression and so on, they are all closely related and I think there may be a few others,
but the only thing I know for sure is that it is a type of psychosis, or a mental illness.

This stuff is not a gift, it's not something wonderful or amazing.

It's been around a long time............it's called demon possession.

Yes, there's an angle of that to it as well.

[JCLawn and more]

There are many things that I think are more spiritual disorders than anything. I think that split personality disorder or multiple personality disorder is demonic possession. We live in world directly effected by the spiritual realm if that is what you call it. Basically influenced be Satan. All native Americans and any third world country religion knows Satan's power. They base there whole region on explaining what goes on. I know a couple of Native Americans and there are some weird stuff that goes on. They are now Christian's but still have to deal with so much stuff. The one girl see's faces in walls. Her mother and grandmother see the same things. She has lost a lot of her memory of before she was a Christan. She only remembered the good things that happened. She used to have a boy friend and she does not remember any of that. Her sisters said that she used to be scary evil, but she don't remember that. The Native Americans have what they call skin walkers. The are people who have a animal skin draped over there body and then turn into that animal any time they want to. A missionary to the Indians that i know said that her friend was in a grocery store and there were many of these things walking around and chased her out of the place. She said that they made a real funny noise. The missionary that i know said that during the Indian rituals tepees would launch off and go flying into the air. The one Indian that I know was involved in witchcraft. I can't imagine the things that went on there.

The world is a scary place and many people don't have a clue on half the things that go on. Even the most knowledgeable person does not even anything on how the world operates and nothing when it comes to the spiritual things.

[HustlerRider]

There are many things that I think are more spiritual disorders than anything. I think that split personality disorder or multiple personality disorder is demonic possession. We live in world directly effected by the spiritual realm if that is what you call it. Basically influenced be Satan. All native Americans and any third world country religion knows Satan's power. They base there whole region on explaining what goes on. I know a couple of Native Americans and there are some weird stuff that goes on. They are now Christian's but still have to deal with so much stuff. The one girl see's faces in walls. Her mother and grandmother see the same things. She has lost a lot of her memory of before she was a Christan. She only remembered the good things that happened. She used to have a boy friend and she does not remember any of that. Her sisters said that she used to be scary evil, but she don't remember that. The Native Americans have what they call skin walkers. The are people who have a animal skin draped over there body and then turn into that animal any time they want to. A missionary to the Indians that i know said that her friend was in a grocery store and there were many of these things walking around and chased her out of the place. She said that they made a real funny noise. The missionary that i know said that during the Indian rituals tepees would launch off and go flying into the air. The one Indian that I know was involved in witchcraft. I can't imagine the things that went on there.

The world is a scary place and many people don't have a clue on half the things that go on. Even the most knowledgeable person does not even anything on how the world operates and nothing when it comes to the spiritual things.

I'm a CDIB card carrying Creek Indian, raised in a Creek Indian home by Creek Indian parents and Grandparents. Everything you posted about American Indians is absolute BS, made up by Hollywood and the warped mind of the uneducated and ill informed. Missionaries to we "savages" have been making up far out stories and flat out lies about us for generations to further their own agenda of Christian conversion and the suppression of our culture, you are no better than they by not educating yourself and propagating this twisted view of the American Indian. Frankly, it's insulting and offensive, so grow up and stop it.

[JCLawn and more]

I'm a CDIB card carrying Creek Indian, raised in a Creek Indian home by Creek Indian parents and Grandparents. Everything you posted about American Indians is absolute BS, made up by Hollywood and the warped mind of the uneducated and ill informed. Missionaries to we "savages" have been making up far out stories and flat out lies about us for generations to further their own agenda of Christian conversion and the suppression of our culture, you are no better than they by not educating yourself and propagating this twisted view of the American Indian. Frankly, it's insulting and offensive, so grow up and stop it.


well this came straight from a missionary to Navajo Indians, and a Navajo Indian herself who's grandmother is deeply involved in witchcraft.

[JCLawn and more]

I'm a CDIB card carrying Creek Indian, raised in a Creek Indian home by Creek Indian parents and Grandparents. Everything you posted about American Indians is absolute BS, made up by Hollywood and the warped mind of the uneducated and ill informed. Missionaries to we "savages" have been making up far out stories and flat out lies about us for generations to further their own agenda of Christian conversion and the suppression of our culture, you are no better than they by not educating yourself and propagating this twisted view of the American Indian. Frankly, it's insulting and offensive, so grow up and stop it.

perhaps you should read this http://www.proteuscoven.org/proteus/Navajo.htm
I am not saying that every tribe is the same. The Haitians are way more scary than any Navajo.

[HustlerRider]

perhaps you should read this http://www.proteuscoven.org/proteus/Navajo.htm
I am not saying that every tribe is the same. The Haitians are way more scary than any Navajo.

The Twilight series has sold millions of copies, it too, is a work of fiction.

[JCLawn and more]

The Twilight series has sold millions of copies, it too, is a work of fiction.

never read it. So your telling me 60 million people practice voodoo worldwide and untold millions practice witchcraft worldwide and think it does absolutely nothing? Even the Bible talks about its dangers.

[HustlerRider]

never read it. So your telling me 60 million people practice voodoo worldwide and untold millions practice witchcraft worldwide and think it does absolutely nothing? Even the Bible talks about its dangers.

No, I couldn't care less what delusional religion yourself or the untold masses practise. Fiction sells, and all this stuff you're posting as fact about American Indians is pure fiction, trust me, I've been one for over 45 years. That's all I have to say about this, I won't debate it further.

[JCLawn and more]

No, I couldn't care less what delusional religion yourself or the untold masses practise. Fiction sells, and all this stuff you're posting as fact about American Indians is pure fiction, trust me, I've been one for over 45 years. That's all I have to say about this, I won't debate it further.

your the first atheist native American I have ever came across, so your telling me you all don't believe in any after life at all?

[Will P.C.]

I have my degrees in Psychology and many therapists do not consider MPD or DID a real disease. I believe it was discovered around 95. Since then, the media has really grabbed it by the horns, and we started seeing many more cases after the book Cybil. Also, it is commonly used in a court of law to try and escape punishment. Furthermore, it is difficult to diagnose and hard to treat
The majority of diagnosis come from a handful of therapists. It is also believed that a majority of us have multiple personalties, but on a smaller level.

The believers say it comes from a trauma (molestation, abuse, etc) where the person cannot take it anymore and uses an alter ego as a coping mechanism.

Their are a few good therapy sessions on youtube that show it. It is fascinating to watch

[JCLawn and more]

I have my degrees in Psychology and many therapists do not consider MPD or DID a real disease. I believe it was discovered around 95. Since then, the media has really grabbed it by the horns, and we started seeing many more cases after the book Cybil. Also, it is commonly used in a court of law to try and escape punishment. Furthermore, it is difficult to diagnose and hard to treat
The majority of diagnosis come from a handful of therapists. It is also believed that a majority of us have multiple personalties, but on a smaller level.

The believers say it comes from a trauma (molestation, abuse, etc) where the person cannot take it anymore and uses an alter ego as a coping mechanism.

Their are a few good therapy sessions on youtube that show it. It is fascinating to watch

so do think its just a chemical imbalance, or something way more that science will never understand? I am curious since you studied this.

[Will P.C.]

It is tough to say since it is near impossible to diagnose. Many times those affected do not seek treatment. Even if they do seek treatment, they often have mood disorders and major drug/alcohol problems. They do not think the MPD is genetic either.

I am on the fence where I stand with it. I see it as a coping mechanism to help with sexual abuse/trauma. They create this other person so they (the actual person) does not have to deal with it. A majority of these people have been abused for long periods as well.

I think they see how effective this method is and create other persona for different events in their life. It also attracts attention which people that are abused seem to like. This is just a theory.

I know when interviewing these people, you have to talk to whatever personality they are demonstrating at the moment. Typically, they have at least 4-5. When they switch personalties, which can happen at any moment, they have a ritual where they look possessed. They do this thing with their eyes that is just freaky.

It is also important to note that no one has a truly single or unified personality.

[JCLawn and more]

It is tough to say since it is near impossible to diagnose. Many times those affected do not seek treatment. Even if they do seek treatment, they often have mood disorders and major drug/alcohol problems. They do not think the MPD is genetic either.

I am on the fence where I stand with it. I see it as a coping mechanism to help with sexual abuse/trauma. They create this other person so they (the actual person) does not have to deal with it. A majority of these people have been abused for long periods as well.

I think they see how effective this method is and create other persona for different events in their life. It also attracts attention which people that are abused seem to like. This is just a theory.

I know when interviewing these people, you have to talk to whatever personality they are demonstrating at the moment. Typically, they have at least 4-5. When they switch personalties, which can happen at any moment, they have a ritual where they look possessed. They do this thing with their eyes that is just freaky.

It is also important to note that no one has a truly single or unified personality.

why do you say no one has one personality?

[Will P.C.]

Lets say a person has their own LCO. They have a personality for running that business, managing workers, and making money. Which is quite different from the person that comes home and plays with his children. Which is quite different from the person who spends time with his wife after the kids are asleep. Which is quite different from the person who hangs out with his friends on the weekends, who is different from the person at church on Sundays. This is all the same person. This is just one example and I am sure you can apply this 'setup" to your life.

Also, our personality changes over time.

[JCLawn and more]

would you say the over all defining traits of there character will still be the same? Like I can't change my interests. In your example I would still like and dislike the same things no matter where I am. A person with multiple personality disorder is like several different people right? There interests are different. I have have never meet one. If they were making it up, it would seem that they could not keep track of who they are. If I have 5 personalities I want to portray, I would have to remember each one in detail. That seems impossible.

[93Chevy]

I think there's definitely an element of severe emotional trauma splitting the mind and there's definitely an element of demon possession as well. I know the power that demons can have over a person and I am also aware of the power (and frailty) of the human mind. The mind is a beautiful, powerful, and tender thing. It is what separates us from the animals.

[AI Inc]

Most of these cases the core personality is patheticly weak, an ultra wimp if you will. Call it what you want. They develop an alter personality to be what the core is missing.

[JCLawn and more]

Most of these cases the core personality is patheticly weak, an ultra wimp if you will. Call it what you want. They develop an alter personality to be what the core is missing.

if your talking about demons, then drugs, alcohol, and abuse and weaken the mind and create an opportunity for demons. I am sure PC can tell of some hypnoses that have went horribly wrong. Under hypnoses the mind is vulnerable to any attack.

[topsites]

if your talking about demons, then drugs, alcohol, and abuse and weaken the mind and create an opportunity for demons. I am sure PC can tell of some hypnoses that have went horribly wrong. Under hypnoses the mind is vulnerable to any attack.

If I'm not mistaken the demons are one of several possible results of going over to the other side,
and although I will agree that drugs and alcohol certainly could contribute towards said effect,
I also believe it is completely possible for a perfectly normal person to catch a trip over the edge.

Which is where, in my opinion, rest all of these disorders.

Most of these cases the core personality is patheticly weak, an ultra wimp if you will. Call it what you want. They develop an alter personality to be what the core is missing.

Make no mistake, folks like these are not necessarily afraid of you or anyone else,
now I'll give that there could exist possible inconsistencies between certain character traits
but I would be very careful on reaching the assumption of a weakness.

Tell you something else...
I know the way.

[JCLawn and more]

I totally agree a perfectly normal person can be possessed, but when you are under the influence of anything you are particularly vulnerable. I don't know if I would call it being domed to hell, if that is what you are referring to. Jesus can still save you like he did in the gospels. I am glad that I don't have to worry about this. I think this is the most scariest thing a person can face on this earth.