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Lawnshark
12-24-2001, 12:01 AM
We just sold our Yazoo 3-wheel. We have 36 residential and 4 commercial accounts. We have a 52" Woods ZTR and I don't know whether to get a walkbehind or another ZTR. I have been told the importance and the versatility of a walkbehind but I would also love to have the extra cutting of a bigger deck. I am really torn between the two. Please help with your experience.
Thanks,
Lawnshark :confused:

sheppard
12-24-2001, 05:42 AM
If $$$ is an important factor then consider a WB- belt driven ones are cheaper, break down less and and are simple for most crew members to run.

Another Z would give you exact back up redundancy. Not a small concern when you've got large important accounts. Then there is the aftermarket/spare parts consideration. Getting another Z help you in buying bulk on these items.

At 5 AM this is all the items I could think to post. Need more coffee.

Cordially,
Sheppard

LAWNGODFATHER
12-24-2001, 07:56 AM
If you can take a ZTR everywere and anywere go for it.

If not then I suggest a Hydro WB.

You will notice an increace in production over the Yazoo with either one.

AltaLawnCare
12-24-2001, 10:35 AM
Another choice may be a stander. There are three now with the new John Deeres.

The new JD looks a lot like a Wright Stander - which was designed by Dane Scag (I believe) - only with fenders and a 7 iron deck,which floats.

They are cheaper than a ' Z' , take up little trailer space, and looks like it would be a lot better for hills. ;)

mdb landscaping
12-24-2001, 01:13 PM
on my accounts, i can take the ztr anywhere a walkbehind will go. i think you should just go for the ztr. youll be more productive.

mklawnman
12-24-2001, 01:17 PM
Hey Alta
Where did u see these new John Deere ZTR's??? I've been waiting to see the new Deere/Dane mowers for over a year now. If you know of a website i could see the new ZTR's post them, cause i dont think they r on the Deere website yet???
Thanks
Matt

mdb landscaping
12-24-2001, 01:19 PM
they have a picture of one in the new issue of landscape and irrigation. dont know if you have that magazine, but they have a pic and a paragraph about it.

mklawnman
12-24-2001, 01:21 PM
I dont have that magazine, but do they have a website that maybe they would have a picture of it?? Otherwise i guess ill find it sooner or later on here or somewhere
Thanks,
Matt

mdb landscaping
12-24-2001, 01:26 PM
they give an 800 number if you want information on the product.

call 1-800-537-8233 and maybe they can mail you some info.

AltaLawnCare
12-24-2001, 03:02 PM
Matt,
I stopped by the JD dealer, and he made a copy of a dealer memo with pics and brief description. I'll try to scan it in and link it.
Just picture a Wright stander, with fenders, and a 7-iron deck held by chains. The rear tires are behind the user,(just like a Wright Stander) and the front casters bolt on (just like a Stander).
It has Kawasakis (I think 20-23hp, but not sure) and 48" to 60" cut - it doesn't look anything like a Dane super surfer really.
It's due in at dealers in March of '02, so the real literature should be out in January or Feburary. :cool:

Lawn Dog2001
12-24-2001, 03:51 PM
If you dont have a WB to compliment your Z, then I would say buy a good WB. You never know when you will need the extra versatility.

AltaLawnCare
12-24-2001, 04:43 PM
Here it is....
<img border="0" src="http://wsphotofews.excite.com/041/XG/E5/H5/ru99593.jpg"width="390"height="540">

65hoss
12-24-2001, 05:14 PM
Walkbehind, stander, or Z??? That is a question we can NEVER agree on. It depends on your properties and needs. Best thing to do is find as much as possible on here about each type. Then evaluate according to your needs. After that, demo in the spring. Then you will know the perfect machine for you.

zmowing
12-24-2001, 05:22 PM
:blob2: If you do all the work yourself I say 60" ex-mark very fast speed is money

LAWNGODFATHER
12-24-2001, 05:50 PM
If im not mistaken Great Dane was bought out by JD not Wright MFG.

Dane Scag designed both Scag and Great Dane, hence the name.

Dane Scag has been sued by Write MFG for the design of the Dane Super Surfer. They are not Write Standers. They are Super Surfers.

They are different mowers, and different MFG's.


Now for the question at hand I agree with 65Hosses post.

AltaLawnCare
12-24-2001, 05:54 PM
You're right, LGF...

I just think they favor a Stander more than the dane super surfers. I think I read somewhere Dane Scag designed the Wright Stander, but I might be wrong about that ;)

kris
12-24-2001, 06:07 PM
To tell you the truth this is something I worry about also. I just can't see the need for a z at this time. Yes we have propertys that we could use one but Im not sure they could be done that much faster. I could be really wrong about this. For the cost I could have 2 walkbehinds ( not really walkbehinds because of sulky's). For now our newest mower will be a 52" Exmark hydro.

If we were awarded the county work I would like then a Z would be the way to go.

Decisions, Decisions :confused:

LAWNGODFATHER
12-24-2001, 06:58 PM
Tough decisions isn't it Kris.

I went from belt drive WB's to out fronts to ZTR's then added hydro WB's.

AltaLawnCare, Dane Scag was being sued because the mower he designed resembled the Write stander, which was out a few years before he left Scag. I think Scag also sued him.

Funny to be sued by your own company.

Grass_Slayer
12-24-2001, 11:11 PM
ok guys call me stupid but how does one go about driving that there machine?? ive heard yall talk about them but i have never seen one. nobody around here has one, i have not even seen pics of one before!! if u mow round here its either a 21, tractor, wb, or ztr. i wouldnt mind looking into one of those. round how much do they cost?? ballpark figures

LAWNGODFATHER
12-25-2001, 01:02 AM
Try the dealer locator on the web sites. Maby you can find one you didn't know had them close by.

I don't know them off hand but type them in your search feture for your web browser.