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scottm1
05-31-2008, 01:33 AM
My 07 Turf Tiger with a 29 hp KAwasaki has 125 hours on it, and it burns a little oil. It doesn't burn much(about a pint or so every 12-15 hours)which wouldn't really bother me, but everybody else I ask that has the 27 & 29 hp Kawasaki engines tell me theirs doesn't burn any oil at all. Does anybody else have to add any oil to an engine this new?

puppypaws
05-31-2008, 04:57 AM
My 07 Turf Tiger with a 29 hp KAwasaki has 125 hours on it, and it burns a little oil. It doesn't burn much(about a pint or so every 12-15 hours)which wouldn't really bother me, but everybody else I ask that has the 27 & 29 hp Kawasaki engines tell me theirs doesn't burn any oil at all. Does anybody else have to add any oil to an engine this new?

Kohler would say an ounce an hour is within their range, but I say that is entirely too much. My 28 efi Kohler gets rid of about 1/4 of an ounce in an hour, which I don't consider using oil. I believe yours is excessive, sounds like the rings may have never seated completely.

dbroken64
05-31-2008, 08:55 AM
I have a 27 hp Kawasaki that blows out a white puff of smoke and it smells like oil burning when I start mine sometimes. I doesnt burn it when I am cutting with it, at least I cannot smell it or see smoke. Never had to add between oil changes but was always curious about the smoke at start up.

scottm1
05-31-2008, 11:40 AM
It is still under warranty, but it doesn't bother me enough to have them tear into my engine to fix it. Now If they told me to bring it in and they would bolt a brand new engine on it, I might let them do that. Otherwise, adding a little oil every other fill up doesn't bother me. However, when I hear of most others not having to do that, that makes me wish I didn't have to do it either.

puppypaws
05-31-2008, 12:56 PM
It is still under warranty, but it doesn't bother me enough to have them tear into my engine to fix it. Now If they told me to bring it in and they would bolt a brand new engine on it, I might let them do that. Otherwise, adding a little oil every other fill up doesn't bother me. However, when I hear of most others not having to do that, that makes me wish I didn't have to do it either.

I understand your feelings and you should not need to add oil that often....Kawasaki is not about to allow them to tear that engine down for that amount of oil usage.

Mike Blevins
05-31-2008, 03:16 PM
I have a 29 dfi Tiger and it has around 90 hrs. on it. I will be switching to amzoil synthetic on my next oil chamge. If my mower burnt ANY oil I would probably be pissed. I paid alot of money for my mower and have never had an oil burning engine. I hope I never do or I will sell and buy till I get one that don't. In my opinion there is no excuse for an engine to use any amount of oil until it gets alot of hrs. "worn" I am very anal when it comes to my equipment. I don't mind spending the money but i want the service I deserve from of my equipment. Have you tried synthetic oils yet? What weight oil are you using. I noticed that my Scag owners manual says that some types of oil would cause oil consuption? Maybe try a different oil?:usflag:

scottm1
05-31-2008, 04:07 PM
I use NAPA brand straight 30 weight. My wife works at NAPA and of course I get the best price on that particular oil, and since she works there in the office upstairs and see's the invoicing and pays the bills, she confirmed to me that the NAPA oil comes straight from VAlvoline. However, I have no problem with using something different even if it costs me more to do whatever I can to hep the situation. My main priority is not to save money, but make sure the mower gets what it needs. Does anybody have any suggestion on a different oil?

Mike Blevins
05-31-2008, 06:17 PM
My dealer recommends amzoil synthetic after 100 hrs. Used it in my other Scag and did great.

tacoma200
05-31-2008, 06:24 PM
My 07 Turf Tiger with a 29 hp KAwasaki has 125 hours on it, and it burns a little oil. It doesn't burn much(about a pint or so every 12-15 hours)which wouldn't really bother me, but everybody else I ask that has the 27 & 29 hp Kawasaki engines tell me theirs doesn't burn any oil at all. Does anybody else have to add any oil to an engine this new?

What oil are you using? I know Kohler considers using a little oil acceptable but I'm not sure what the cut off is. Sounds like you using an ounce or so an hour and I doubt they would consider that a defect at this time. I know the the Briggs manuals says they will use more oil with multi-viscosity oils, even synthetic.

bigclawn
05-31-2008, 11:36 PM
we have used opti oil for many years in everything. have never felt we lost any engine gefore it's time!

puppypaws
05-31-2008, 11:47 PM
What oil are you using? I know Kohler considers using a little oil acceptable but I'm not sure what the cut off is. Sounds like you using an ounce or so an hour and I doubt they would consider that a defect at this time. I know the the Briggs manuals says they will use more oil with multi-viscosity oils, even synthetic.

Kohler's engineers say 1 ounce per hr. is acceptable but I told them that was a little excessive. They then said, "yes, it is if one is built to perfection and the rings seat properly, but that is the guidelines we use".

This is a quote from an engine oil article:

How much oil should my engine use?

All engines do burn oil, which is emitted again through the exhaust. The cylinders are oil-wet, fuel is burned, and so it burns the oil on the cylinder walls too.

scottm1
06-01-2008, 12:43 AM
I may use Rotella straight 30 weight the next time I change it and see if that makes any difference. Does anybody have an opinion on that?

puppypaws
06-01-2008, 04:15 AM
I may use Rotella straight 30 weight the next time I change it and see if that makes any difference. Does anybody have an opinion on that?

Rotella is very good oil, give it a try and tell us if there is a difference.

tarp5350
06-01-2008, 08:15 PM
I have a 2007 scag turf tiger also with the 29 dfi and i use schaeffer synthetic blend oil in it and it hasn't used any yet.
I had a lot of issues with my john deere tractors and combine using the john deere oils until a salesman from the schaeffer oil company came to my place and talked me into trying their oil in my equiptment. That was the best thing i ever done because the oil consumption went away. I use it in all my vehicles and farm machinery and am very happy about it.

puppypaws
06-02-2008, 12:43 AM
I have a 2007 scag turf tiger also with the 29 dfi and i use schaeffer synthetic blend oil in it and it hasn't used any yet.
I had a lot of issues with my john deere tractors and combine using the john deere oils until a salesman from the schaeffer oil company came to my place and talked me into trying their oil in my equiptment. That was the best thing i ever done because the oil consumption went away. I use it in all my vehicles and farm machinery and am very happy about it.

It is amazing how there can be so many differences. I have run nothing but JD oil in every JD tractor, combine or sprayer I have ever owned for over 40 years and never had any problems, other than rebuilding one 38 hp utility tractor. I've never been bothered by oil consumption on any JD equipment using JD oil.

I have also been using Schaeffer grease for many, many, many years.

scottm1
06-02-2008, 03:33 PM
I have a Shaeffer dealer her that I can get their synthetic products from..... But, in 125 hours of use, is it possible the rings still have not seated fully yet, or if they haven't seated after 125 hours, is it fair to say that they never will? The reason I am asking is that I have always heard not to use synthetic oil in an engine until after it is broken in and the rings are seated. If they are still seating, I wouldn't want to put synthetic in it until after they do.

tarp5350
06-02-2008, 05:38 PM
I have 51 hours on the turf tiger and it is still on the full mark after i used it today.

tarp5350
06-02-2008, 05:46 PM
I forgot to add that i called the kawasaki company and i asked them if i could use the schaeffer 15w-40 synthetic blend in my engine after i changed the factory oil after the first eight hours, and they said it would be okay since we have very hot summers here in oklahoma. so far it hasn't use any yet.