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DeepGreenLawn
06-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Look at this thread on the pesticides forum: http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=232851

They are talking about how fertilizer prices are going up $4 a bag as of June 4th.:dizzy: They don't seem to happy about it.:realmad: Do you guys see the same thing happing to our supplies?:confused: This is why I love organics. We can make our own products when things go to hell in a hand basket. I know I am a hybrid company but when the prices go through the roof for traditional I will be sitting and waiting for the customers to flood in... Oh wait, They already are!payup I thought my busy time was over but the newest magazines went out and I don't know if they changed something, changed the location, what, but I have been swamped with phone calls. It's unbelievable.:eek: Last month things came to a crawl, I feel like it's early spring again. I thought I would have time to work on the business some for a change but that seems to be out the window for another month.:(

Anywho, I think I am going to start looking into making my own compost piles pretty soon, when I get time that is.:dizzy:

Oh, remember the original thought? Rise in fert prices? Do we see the same problem coming?:(

Thought I would have fun with the smily faces :p

k911lowe
06-04-2008, 01:19 PM
smae problem on everything we use and organics are even more expensive.

DeepGreenLawn
06-04-2008, 02:50 PM
Lowe? Your not related to Ricky and Ladonna Lowe are you?

NattyLawn
06-04-2008, 07:19 PM
You might see a slight increase on the organics side, but definitely not 4 bucks a bag. Nutrients Plus 4-4-2 Nature Pure is backordered I believe until early fall. A lot more people are looking at organics now that synthetic prices are going up....and up....and up....

DeepGreenLawn
06-04-2008, 07:26 PM
yeah and the bans in Canada I think are freaking people out too.

treegal1
06-04-2008, 10:16 PM
the hand writing was on the wall 1 year ago, the spit has not hit the spam yet. start thinking 1930s depression, and it will be worse than that. china has already imposed large tariff's, what happens when they shut us OFF...... or the Saudi royal family says no more go juice china has already payed us for it, just waiting to leave the the ports!!! then what???????? are we ready to support as many Americans as there are, or do we have to have guns to put the starving out of there misery..... yeah it could get that bad..don't want to ever imagine the worst of it......

this is the reason I am a nut about self sustainable thinking, fertilizer, check. fuel , check. electricity,check. that's just the starts, we can go on and on.

i do feel sorry for the guys that got left in a lurch with the bag-ed fert........ there was a story about an ant, little guy stored all year, the grass hopper just screwed around, and did not store as much as he should, winter came and the ant was fat, the grass hopper starved, or froze. point is we all should be thinking what will happen this winter and the next 10 winters?????

treegal1
06-04-2008, 10:32 PM
there's even more to this than fert, think about food, that's going to means that the guy that buys this that there is more cost??? so now he has to charge more for his service, and that means the tip for the server is less, so she stops spraying the yard, and that means the yard guy is staring, so he does not paint his house, 1 painter out of work, and so on and so fourth.

next its a devaluation of the dollar, so my bucks only worth half, that's it we use gold, o shite the is no gold standard, we will have to sell women and children???? we are stocked up on those??? to many you say??? where is the value system, is it going to be like the market in deli at high noon??? scales and trade????

so a few starved, what could be worse than that??? disease ?? pestilence??? more famine?? race or civil wars???

GOD i hope not, maybe we can all collectively pull our heads out of our asses and get to work doing the sustainable thing and help our fellow man to save the only home we have, just a rant based on a lot of things going on, in my world and afar. at least hitlery cliton was not given the chance to con others into voting there gender, what a crock of crap that was!!!!

DeepGreenLawn
06-04-2008, 11:10 PM
lol, a few thoughts goin through your head?

dtally
06-05-2008, 02:08 AM
A smart grass hopper would have eaten the fat ant. There has to be a moral to this story, but just too tired to be witty.

dtally
06-05-2008, 02:12 AM
treegal1...

There is more to you than meets the eye, or is it pages. Go Girl!

Smallaxe
06-05-2008, 09:30 AM
We have the deep sea drilling sites tipping over and refineries getting bashed about, but we should be energy sufficient in 30 yrs. When adequate refineries are back online here in the US.
Meanwhile high energy costs will put us on par with the rest of the world along with their 30-50% unemployment/welfare rates.

I hope China doesn't cut us off. We don't have the infrastructure to make lead toys in this country :laugh:

Food production is what will be hit the hardest. Our farming community is trying to figure out how to balance fertilizers, and fuels in order to make a living and not go into foreclosure.

DeepGreenLawn
06-05-2008, 09:45 AM
what a mess