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Tallkracker
06-13-2008, 10:07 PM
I have found many discussions on what ZTR gives the best cut, and a bunch of pro's and and con's on many makers. What I want to know is what Lawn tractor gives the best cut and has many perks. I would think JD's would probably be top choice like the 585 or 700 series. Any thoughts?

doubleedge
06-13-2008, 10:12 PM
I have a JD x304, and cuts well.

mowerbrad
06-13-2008, 10:15 PM
I don't have one but I'm pretty sure the Deere x749 has to cut pretty well. For about $14000 is better cut just as well as any commercial ZTR.

lawnspecialties
06-13-2008, 10:35 PM
I'm no "die-hard" John Deere man but I agree they make the best garden tractors out there. I've had a 445 and a 455; both with the 60" deck. They just don't make'em like that anymore. :)

greenred
06-13-2008, 11:10 PM
I have a john deer x279 I use on mine and my elderly neighbors cause I like putzing around on it. I have to admit it that its cut is one of the best I have ever seen for a non commercial deck - hell its better then some of the commercial ones I have seen. I can even put nice stripes in with it.

Laner
06-13-2008, 11:45 PM
I have the X485 AWS and X724 AWS both with the 62C deck and they will cut very nice even in heavy /tall grass, just not near as fast as a ZTR. They do lay nice stripes. I have had several comments on the lawns we do with them on how nice the stripes look and how manicured the lawn is when we are finished. Yes they are big $$$, but you get what you pay for in the garden tractor segment (at least with the brands available in my area).

hmartin
06-14-2008, 10:42 AM
Don't some of the bigger models have the same 7Iron decks as the ZRTs?

Laner
06-14-2008, 10:52 AM
hmartin, Yes, you can get the 60 inch 7 Iron deck on the standard steer X700 series tractors. That deck is excellent on the ZTRs, so I would think it would be great on the tractor as well.

kleankutslawn
06-14-2008, 11:51 AM
i think i would choose a walkbehind before i went with a steer mower,just my.2

Turf Gnome
06-17-2008, 08:09 AM
I have a GX 335 with power steering, hydraulic deck lift and a 52c" mulching kit and the 20 hp Kawasaki AC engine. I can also lockup the rear differential for steep inclines or slippery conditions. The deck on it cuts amazing and with the power steering, you can sit back with one "cold beverage" in one hand and the other hand on the wheel, making k-turns as easy as pie.

White Gardens
06-17-2008, 09:23 AM
I love John Deere tractors. The riders are great mowers.

But, I think Simplicity is a better machine. It has a floating deck and I always thought they striped and cut better than the JD. On the farm, that's all my grandfather uses to this day for the last 30 years. Has just as much power and attachments as the JD.

Simplicity makes lawn tractors for Allis-Chalmers, then it was Duetz Allis, the Agco Allis, now I'm not sure what that tractor company is named anymore. I still know they make them for them though.

lawnmon
06-17-2008, 09:34 AM
I love John Deere tractors. The riders are great mowers.

But, I think Simplicity is a better machine. It has a floating deck and I always thought they striped and cut better than the JD. On the farm, that's all my grandfather uses to this day for the last 30 years. Has just as much power and attachments as the JD.

Simplicity makes lawn tractors for Allis-Chalmers, then it was Duetz Allis, the Agco Allis, now I'm not sure what that tractor company is named anymore. I still know they make them for them though.

+1

My Simplicity leaves a great cut with nice stripes. I have the "entry level" Regent and the deck is very heavy.

FWIW, Simplcity markets Simplicity under the Simplicity, Massey Furgeson and AGCO names. It also makes the tractors, but not all the decks for Snappers beginning with the LT200 model and up.

Simplicity is owner by Briggs & Stratton and is run as a separate division. Snapper and Ferris are part of the B&S/Simplicity family.

No, I don't work for B&S or Simplicity. My family has always had dependable service and great cuts out of their equipment.

Now, I see many drinking the green and yellow kool-aid and that's fine as they make great products. But, dollar for dollar, I think the Simplicity offers a better cut.

JMHO,

Jack

MitchDaniel
06-17-2008, 09:41 AM
I would agree with John Deere (not a Home Depot special though!) I just sold my brother a John Deere 185 Hydro with a 38" deck and he can still run circles around his old Husqvarna with a 50" deck!

greenred
06-17-2008, 03:55 PM
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Here are some photos of the stripes left with my John Deer LX279 17 hp. They are not the best photos. The stripes are much more defines and bright in person. My Exmark WB can blow it out of the water but these are still pretty good for a home owner quality machine. I will try to get better shots where the shadows are not interfering so much with the light some time.

Snydermf
06-17-2008, 08:59 PM
as far as a tractor style machine the Simplicity's are def. the best cutting mower on the market. I have owned three as well as owning several of the older Allis Chalmers and Deutz Allis that were mentioned earlier and nothing can outmow them as far as quality is concerned. I have used three of them for the business and they have held up very well, in fact they leave a higher quality cut than my commercial machine but can't mow as fast. I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for a tractor style lawnmower.

jaredslawnserv
06-17-2008, 09:04 PM
I'm no "die-hard" John Deere man but I agree they make the best garden tractors out there. I've had a 445 and a 455; both with the 60" deck. They just don't make'em like that anymore. :)

same here but you have to admit; ain't nothin run like a Deere.

kubotafan
06-17-2008, 10:36 PM
I have a Kubota G1800 AWS which is a nice mower.

STIHL GUY
06-17-2008, 11:24 PM
I use A JD LT133 and it works real nice

wyoming lawn service
04-24-2009, 11:18 PM
Another vote for Simplicity! My 1990 Simplicity cuts like a dream!