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Jaysondavislawnservice
06-14-2008, 12:07 AM
Just got a new customer tonight and he also asked me how much I will charge to deliver soil and spread it. I think it will be around 2 to 2 1/2 yds. also he wants a estimate on laying sod for him. not really sure what to charge and did not want to screw myself out of this deal by not charging enough. can you guy please help out so i can give him a good price.

topsites
06-14-2008, 01:13 AM
Where are you buying the dirt, how much do they charge?
How will you get it there?
How will you spread it?

FYI I do whole cubic yards only, better 1/2 over than not enough but either two or three.
It's too much bs for me with 1/2 yards, two or three.

More FYI:
Weight of one cubic yard is roughly 2,000 pounds.
When carrying dirt on a trailer you will reach the trailer's max. weight rating usually long before it is full of dirt.
This weight issue has to be seriously considered and researched before loading.

Jaysondavislawnservice
06-14-2008, 10:38 PM
rock place up the road about 1 mile. they want $20 a yard and if i get 3 or over its free delivery. same with the sod right next door to the rock place.

wheel b. from front to back and rack out level.
the yard is about 1900 sq. ft. how thick should the top soil be and do you think 3 yards will do.
the sod is about $140 a pallet will need 4 of those th do the whole thing

thanks

White Gardens
06-14-2008, 11:15 PM
1900 square feet at 2 inches is about 140 yards if I did my calculations right.

Somebody tell me if I did it wrong,

1900*12inches = 22,800 square inches.

22,800*2 inches = 45,600

45,600 /12 = 3,800

3,800/ 27 = 140.74

3 yards of dirt should come to a little over 3 tons, depending on moisture.

Are you grading or just top dressing for soil amending.

topsites
06-15-2008, 12:15 AM
1900 square feet at 2 inches is about 140 yards if I did my calculations right.

Somebody tell me if I did it wrong,

1900*12inches = 22,800 square inches.

22,800*2 inches = 45,600

45,600 /12 = 3,800

3,800/ 27 = 140.74

3 yards of dirt should come to a little over 3 tons, depending on moisture.

Are you grading or just top dressing for soil amending.

I don't know, 140 sounds like a way awful lot but I'm also pretty sure 3 isn't enough...
Not for two inches thick, that's too big an area for three but 100+ sounds way out there too...

Look it's easy, how I do it is 19 x 100
Then 2 inches thick is two inches out of 12, so two twelfths, or 1/6th...
argggh lol 317... :p
Oh yeah, that / 3 = 105...
Something still ain't right.

Forget all that.
ONE cubic yard is about 27 cubic feet, that times 6 = 162 square feet two inches thick,
That is how much 1 cubic yard will cover at 2 inches thick, 162 square feet.
So then 1900 / 162 = 12 cubic yards.

Free delivery, $240 for materials.
Plan 2 cubic yards per hour, it's hard work so make it a High hourly low-cost equipment rate of $40-50 an hour,
assuming you're just using a flat-end $20 shovel and a $65 wheel barrow it would take 6 hours to spread this out, $240-300 for the labor, I'd say quote $480-540 for the dirt to spread it and all.
I would also highly consider getting a Landscaper's rake, they're about $40 but they do a really nice job of grading.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100466203

Now I'd still double check that to be sure!
Don't know about the sod, sorry it's just not something I do.

White Gardens
06-15-2008, 12:24 AM
Ya, I was thinking 14 yards, not 140 for that size of an area. 140 is a butt load. Definitivly 3 isn't enough.

topsites
06-15-2008, 12:30 AM
Two more things:

1. Call around to every single place you can find and keep getting prices on dirt.
2. See if any of them offer any types of discounts.

Because the place I get mine from I get 10% off always because I have an account there or some bs, but also it only costs me $18 a cubic yard so then -10% times 12 cubic yards would be $205 (with tax) still saves the customer $35! And then I take $25-30 off their bill and put $5-10 in my pocket for going through the trouble, yes indeed.

And you might think 5 bucks ain't worth the hassle but once done I put 5 in my pocket every time after that too.
It pays to shop around, both for you and the customer, of course it's never over but that's why they hire guys like us.

yard5864
06-15-2008, 12:43 AM
It calculates out to 12 yards of soil.


http://www.liesenersoils.com/index_files/Page442.htm

White Gardens
06-15-2008, 12:45 AM
Also, my supplier has 600 square feet of sod on each pallet.

At that you would need a little over 3 pallets of sod.

Couldn't tell you the price, as it fluctuates up and down a lot.

But my guess without getting into specific numbers, your area of the country, I would say anywhere from 2000- 3000 for the entire job.

Anybody got any input for those numbers ???

Yard 5864, that's a cool calculator, thanks for the info.

TPendagast
06-15-2008, 01:26 AM
1900 square feet.
Figure $2200.

About $1 per square foot.

$300 is alittle extra padding for the additional extra sod needed

Jaysondavislawnservice
06-15-2008, 09:31 PM
yeah that guy was thinking around $500-600 for the labor thats why I told him to give me a couple of days to get him a price. he probaly won't go for that but i will tell him 1800 and see what he says. and i will also tell him to get a couple estimates to compare.

thanks

Lawnut101
06-18-2008, 12:19 AM
rock place up the road about 1 mile. they want $20 a yard and if i get 3 or over its free delivery. same with the sod right next door to the rock place.

wheel b. from front to back and rack out level.
the yard is about 1900 sq. ft. how thick should the top soil be and do you think 3 yards will do.
the sod is about $140 a pallet will need 4 of those th do the whole thing

thanks

What kind of truck do you have? Reason I ask is because carrying a pallet of dirt is very hard on your truck. I've done it before, but that's just because it wasn't worth buying a load. So, just keep that in mind that you may break something on your truck doing this job. That can get expensive. The reason I say this is because I did a job this year like that and I broke a few parts in my truck.

IMAGE
06-18-2008, 12:46 AM
If your using a wheel barrow--- plan on hard hard work, especially if there is any grade to go up with that loaded.

We did 5 yards of loaming black dirt yesterday with a wb and it took us 2 hours to move it from the street to the back yard, and level it. Now keep in mind that this was 2 BIG guys in really good shape. We are both in our mid 20's, iraq vets, ~230lbs, and work out frequently. The dirt was damp, so the loads were a little smaller, but it took 38 wb loads, and we were feeling it by the end.

If I was gonna do 14 yards (!!!!) I would rent a small tracked skidder, or a hydraulic dump cart to move it, because your gonna really be in pain moving that much dirt.

OH, and charge heavily for this type of work... it is HARD work.

Jaysondavislawnservice
06-18-2008, 01:05 AM
i have a 03 Dakota 4.7l V8

i carried 3 yards of dirt all separate for one another to my house for a garden i did with not problems but usher you not if it is 12 yards of soil w/free delivery i will take full advantage of it. and if i do the job i will probaly rent a wb loader or something

Grits
06-18-2008, 10:19 AM
12 yds of dirt, wheel barrow to back yard, spread by hand. Have fun.

BillyRgn
06-18-2008, 01:55 PM
for top soil i gernerally charge at least $30 per yard to spread it, and a delivery fee of at least $25 per load
sod i charge 75 cents per square foot, for the sod, and laying it down, if the sod has to be wheel barrowed a long distance, i will go up to $1.00 per square foot and the prep work is seperate