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Raceral
06-16-2008, 07:44 AM
To start with I know nothing about yard Irrigations systems. So please be easy on me....
The yard is 200 x 200 all I want to do is water the yard. I am on a well that is 225 deep with 22 gpm.
What do you think this project would cost me. I'm in Piedmont NC.
Here is the yard. It's not all that much in the back where you can't see.
Anybody wanna give me a ball park figure?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/raceral/MiscPhotos/yardstuff002.jpg
:confused:

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:40 AM
Start at five grand.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-16-2008, 08:04 PM
up north we could do that in 5 zones or less with 22 gpm from the POC inch and 1/4.

Id bring a wire and good sized pipe to that island....prob toss a faucet in there for S and G's...

With a pvb and RB esp modular clock that would tune in around.....hmmm

5600 you take care of the backflow prevention.......

not sure but I would think that the pvc boys would come in cheaper and make a bigger mess...

lolerskates.

mikecaldwell1204
06-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Im guesstimating $5200.

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:15 PM
Good thing the OP isn't in Texas - wait a month for some municipal pinhead to evaluate a plan they can't understand anyway.

nylan8888
06-16-2008, 08:16 PM
I would do it for a grand but I would need $10,000 for fuel to get there:).

BrandonV
06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
rotor is pretty close, not sure if you got to go ed but Stoneville is near Belews lake where we did that 2-wire install. It be safe to say you're price is in the ball park, maybe a little more for SCH-40 but the soil up there is wonderful to work with so I'd bank on easy digging. Of course if I did it it would have RB scrubbers and a real clock, and sprays on the shrubs instead of that stuff yall use up north.

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:23 PM
Okay, time to hijack this puppy. How far would you place the streetside rotors from the pavement?

nylan8888
06-16-2008, 08:25 PM
Okay, time to hijack this puppy. How far would you place the streetside rotors from the pavement?

That question can't be answered until we talk to an inspector.

BrandonV
06-16-2008, 08:25 PM
i'd want at least 10" from the asphalt, since there is no curb. On one commercial job i did truck running out of the road was such an issue I put a zone of strips to cover the area from the rotors to the pavement... problem solved for the irrigation at least, the turf gets rutted up quite often though

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-16-2008, 08:29 PM
8-10 inches is about where I would put the rotArs... prob use I-20's with a doughnut type cement bumper for that extra protection if the customer okay'd it...

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:36 PM
I'd want even more than a foot, but it turns into a problem of how one covers the area between heads and curb. That corner will be a pain to cover and not get heads run over.

At least they look like they don't have to worry much about snowplows.

BrandonV
06-16-2008, 08:37 PM
snowplow? what's that do?

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:39 PM
snowplow? what's that do?Decapitates rotors near the street where there are no curbs, for one thing.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-16-2008, 08:47 PM
Decapitates rotors near the street where there are no curbs, for one thing.



and yeilds a nice coin on turn ons..

Wet_Boots
06-16-2008, 08:58 PM
And when the system is still guaranteed, the roadside damage can become an issue.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-16-2008, 09:00 PM
And when the system is still guaranteed, the roadside damage can become an issue.

I see a guarantee clause in this install's future

Without A Drought
06-16-2008, 09:47 PM
..."warranty does not cover physical damage."

WalkGood
06-16-2008, 09:47 PM
not sure but I would think that the pvc boys would come in cheaper and make a bigger mess...



Why would pvc be cheaper than pullin poly? Isn't pvc much more time & labor involved?

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-16-2008, 11:03 PM
You guys are so jealous of Texas. We have real irrigation discussions down here.

Kiril
06-17-2008, 12:15 AM
I'll add my 2 cents. Rotors 2 feet from asphalt, netafim zone to cover the remaining 2 feet.

Waterit
06-17-2008, 12:38 AM
You guys are so jealous of Texas. We have real irrigation discussions down here.

We don't talk about it, we just put in whatever is left over from the last malfunction junction.

AI Inc
06-17-2008, 05:54 AM
Okay, time to hijack this puppy. How far would you place the streetside rotors from the pavement?

2 inches, systems designed with service in mind,lol

AI Inc
06-17-2008, 05:56 AM
And when the system is still guaranteed, the roadside damage can become an issue.

You sound like one of my employees. I had to explain to hin if one buys a car and drives it into a tree , the warrenty does not apply.

Raceral
06-17-2008, 07:44 AM
You guys are killing me... So after all this technical talk.. you seem to think in the 5k range?

nylan8888
06-17-2008, 08:11 AM
You guys are killing me... So after all this technical talk.. you seem to think in the 5k range?

Well...



Maybe.

DanaMac
06-17-2008, 08:33 AM
You guys are killing me... So after all this technical talk.. you seem to think in the 5k range?

$5k-$8k. Without being on site there are variables we can't see

Dripit good
06-17-2008, 08:36 AM
You guys are killing me... So after all this technical talk.. you seem to think in the 5k range?

No. You will (or should) be 7,500.00 +\- if you must have a guide line. Let us know what the numbers come in at.

Rotors should be a fist away from the edge of turf. Deal with damage if/or as it happens.

Lawn-Sharks
06-17-2008, 11:14 AM
$5,000:drinkup:

WalkGood
06-17-2008, 11:26 PM
not sure but I would think that the pvc boys would come in cheaper and make a bigger mess...



Why would pvc be cheaper than pullin poly? Isn't pvc much more time & labor involved?




Paging Capt RoTar..... Paging Capt RoTar.... :)

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Paging Capt RoTar..... Paging Capt RoTar.... :)

and you are????????

WalkGood
06-17-2008, 11:38 PM
and you are????????


Wondering if you just missed my question the first time? Or purposely avoided my question?

:)

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-17-2008, 11:40 PM
well here is my thoughts..

pvc installs= in the south....
where money is shorter on everything...
Poly is for northern climate applications...In the North Everything costs more when comparing to the south..People get paid less to do the same job...

hence cheaper....

eDIT:Im speaking for the Eastern part of the country solely .

WalkGood
06-17-2008, 11:45 PM
well here is my thoughts..

pvc installs= in the south....
where money is shorter on everything...
Poly is for northern climate applications...In the North Everything costs more when comparing to the south..People get paid less to do the same job...

hence cheaper....

eDIT:Im speaking for the Eastern part of the country solely .


That clarifies it. Thanks.

If the choice in the same place .... pvc versus poly, the poly should be less expensive labor and materials.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-17-2008, 11:49 PM
now the next question is what type of system would last longer?

WalkGood
06-17-2008, 11:57 PM
now the next question is what type of system would last longer?

Too many variables and possibilities!!!

But, on purely "which material disintegrates faster.... poly or PVC"???? We'll both be long gone and disintegrated into dust long before either one!

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-18-2008, 06:30 AM
Without question in my mind PVC outlasts poly based on connections and crush resistance.

AI Inc
06-18-2008, 06:37 AM
now the next question is what type of system would last longer?

Long before either would be bad the other componants ( heads , valves , clock ) would be junk the landscape would have changed , new owner and time for a rebuild.

BrandonV
06-18-2008, 06:38 AM
ding ding ding^ we have a winner

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-18-2008, 06:42 AM
Long before either would be bad the other componants ( heads , valves , clock ) would be junk the landscape would have changed , new owner and time for a rebuild.

Easier to redesign a pvc system with valves scattered in 6" valve boxes all over the place.:)

Wet_Boots
06-18-2008, 09:46 AM
And when the system is still guaranteed, the roadside damage can become an issue.You sound like one of my employees. I had to explain to hin if one buys a car and drives it into a tree , the warrenty does not apply.When the owner of a curbless property on a corner chases low bids, he may never get a system that places heads out of harm's way, that still effectively covers up to the pavement.

AI Inc
06-18-2008, 12:40 PM
Easier to redesign a pvc system with valves scattered in 6" valve boxes all over the place.:)

Why would ya want to? When replacing a system we just ignore the old one and pull right thru it.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 08:09 PM
Easier to redesign a pvc system with valves scattered in 6" valve boxes all over the place.:)

what about your wire?

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-18-2008, 08:11 PM
what about your wire?

Three words


ADD-A-ZONE


or



RUN NEW WIRE

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 08:13 PM
Three words


ADD-A-ZONE


or



RUN NEW WIRE

honestly it would be neater to pull poly then trench pvc....with a mail line all around a large property with a wire to compliment it....

fo
get
aboutta
it

Waterit
06-19-2008, 12:33 AM
Three words


ADD-A-ZONE


or



RUN NEW WIRE

2 other words: VALVE DOUBLER

Kiril
06-19-2008, 12:36 AM
One word - thingamajig

Dripit good
06-19-2008, 01:00 PM
Gonkulator.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 08:01 PM
who'samawhatcha?

BrandonV
06-19-2008, 09:04 PM
1 number 1 word... 2 wire

Wet_Boots
06-19-2008, 09:27 PM
who'samawhatcha?I have the sure cure for roadside sprinkler heads that get nailed during the winter.

Dripit good
06-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Oh, that's sweet! Where can I buy that in bulk?