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lawnwizards
06-17-2008, 06:51 PM
i busted my rearend and grossed 600 today. not too shabby for 7 1/2 hours huh? whats your best days gross? solo only please. thanks.


randy.

rodfather
06-17-2008, 06:54 PM
congrats and good for you randy...i won't say our highest gross in one day :laugh:

jsf343
06-17-2008, 07:22 PM
a milion zillion.:laugh:

F.S Lawn Care
06-17-2008, 07:28 PM
Gross doesn't mean anything to me. I have grossed $1905 in one day(record for me I guess) I ended up netting 1400 or so.

J&R Landscaping
06-17-2008, 07:33 PM
congrats and good for you randy...i won't say our highest gross in one day :laugh:

Cmon, Rod...Spill it!! :usflag:

For me, I've had a few days this season over $520. Several more in the $470 and above range.

siklid1066
06-17-2008, 07:35 PM
What did you do?Is that net or gross?I have done installs and charged over a grand,does not mean I made a grand by a far.But good for you.

KevinACrider
06-17-2008, 07:39 PM
Yea, I've netted over $1000 already in 1 day but it was doing hardscapes and tree removals. No where close to that doing mowing.

fool32696
06-17-2008, 08:14 PM
I've done 800-900 on a long day. It's easy to do 1k with a helper.

Lawn-Sharks
06-17-2008, 08:55 PM
The most i made in one day was $2,300 in 9.5 hrs, but i have a new question what the most amout of houses you have done in one 8hr day as a solo op?????

jaybird24
06-17-2008, 09:14 PM
When I was solo my monday was a 9-10hr. day which grossed $950 in mowing. Tight route and small commercial on the high end. The rest of the week was usually 5-600 a day. This was 10 years ago when a guy could make a good living by himself. Kinda makes we wish I was solo sometimes, but it sure is hard. My hats off to all you solo guys.

mowerbrad
06-17-2008, 10:01 PM
I have grossed about $1,000 in one day before expenses.

lawnwizards
06-17-2008, 10:06 PM
congrats and good for you randy...i won't say our highest gross in one day :laugh:

thats my goal rod. to make enough not to tell everyone what i made. my goal is to achieve rod status. :waving:

shovelracer
06-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Just think how much you could make if you worked 12+ hours each day.

windsory
06-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Just think how much you could make if you worked 12+ hours each day.

Or if you worked 24 hours each day. :weightlifter:

Ooomwizard
06-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Netted $2400 in one day. Yup net. :weightlifter:

Wish I could do it again.:drinkup:

lawnwizards
06-17-2008, 11:42 PM
Or if you worked 24 hours each day. :weightlifter:

thats not a bad idea. :laugh:

gorknoids
06-18-2008, 01:00 AM
We recently lost a gig which paid $210 per man hour. The next closest regular job pays $100.00 per man hour. Every fall I do one which pays $250 per hour, and it is earned.

puppypaws
06-18-2008, 01:02 AM
i busted my rearend and grossed 600 today. not too shabby for 7 1/2 hours huh? whats your best days gross? solo only please. thanks.


randy.

I just calculated what I grossed today and it was $47,000.00.

Oh, I'm sorry you said solo we were running two machines.

Gardens55
06-18-2008, 08:41 AM
I just calculated what I grossed today and it was $47,000.00.

Oh, I'm sorry you said solo we were running two machines.

Oh, two machines? Thats not so good then, shame.

larryinalabama
06-18-2008, 08:53 AM
Ive had a few ,and I mean few 1000 plus days. this past spring I sold 12 giant Bamboo plants for 100$ installed, I got the plants for free and it took 9 hours, my little excavator used less than 3 gal deisel and mabey 4 to 5 gal gas for the truck, that was my only expense.

When I was full time I did 17 houses in 1 day, that was 15 years ago, now at 43 it wolud make me tired

jkilov
06-18-2008, 09:00 AM
You guys are cool :clapping::clapping::clapping: any tips on how you do it ?

I only work solo on Saturdays. The best I got was like $450 (net) for 4hrs work.

puppypaws
06-18-2008, 12:23 PM
Oh, two machines? Thats not so good then, shame.

I forgot to mention that was cutting 80 acres of wheat with 2 $250,000.00 combines.

The question was, "what was your highest gross in a day", he didn't say what he was doing. That just happened to be how much wheat I cut and sold yesterday.

Laying all jokes aside, most people have no idea of what is going on and how it is going to effect the food you buy to survive.

Today on the CBOT soybeans is $15.47 (record), wheat is $8.97 and corn is $7.52 (record). The Midwest is flooding, Iowa alone has lost 1,000,000 acres of corn and 2,000,000 acres of soybeans. This means corn, wheat and soybean prices are going up in price higher than the records that they have already broken.

Just thought I would let you know what your government is doing for our country. We may need to learn the Chinese language before long.

China bought 4.5 billion dollars worth of our soybeans yesterday which is about 10% of the total crop. This country is selling out to the highest bidder and it is a great deal worst than most people have the ability to comprehend.

Liendeni
06-18-2008, 12:52 PM
I net just over 5K in one day...but then again...that wasn't mowing lawns....that was selling fossils...my other business....and that was on a single tooth...but then again...doubt anybody cares...but you asked.

puppypaws
06-18-2008, 02:13 PM
I net just over 5K in one day...but then again...that wasn't mowing lawns....that was selling fossils...my other business....and that was on a single tooth...but then again...doubt anybody cares...but you asked.

No that is very interesting to me, what type tooth brought 5000.00?

I know this is off base, but don't care. I had a friend that collected civil war relics and sold enough to build a quarter of a million dollar home and pay cash,
that blew my mind.

Liendeni
06-18-2008, 02:50 PM
It was this tooth that I sold for 7K...but paid $2100 for it. So actually it was a $4900 net day.

http://www.megalodonsharkteeth.com/MyVenice.htm

I sold this World Record Great White for 5K a couple years ago as well.

http://www.megalodonsharkteeth.com/WorldRecordModernGreatWhite.htm

I have sold a couple dozen teeth for 5K or more but that is of course not all profit...but a good bit of it is.

Anybody want to trade me an enclosed trailer for a fossil??? I doubt it but thought I'd try. Maybe this T-Rex tooth??

http://www.megalodonsharkteeth.com/ATRex10.htm

TomberLawn
06-18-2008, 04:05 PM
Anybody want to trade me an enclosed trailer for a fossil??? I doubt it but thought I'd try. Maybe this T-Rex tooth??

http://www.megalodonsharkteeth.com/ATRex10.htm

I looked at the tooth...not worth a trailer! How do you get away with calling that thing new? It's a fossil, for crying out loud!! That's cool, though, having a very unique business like that.

ATL Lawn
06-18-2008, 04:14 PM
Netted $2400 in one day. Yup net. :weightlifter:

Wish I could do it again.:drinkup:

sweet.... congrats

Liendeni
06-18-2008, 07:15 PM
I looked at the tooth...not worth a trailer! How do you get away with calling that thing new? It's a fossil, for crying out loud!! That's cool, though, having a very unique business like that.

Ya, but the really good thing about fossils is they are one of the very few things in life that you can buy and they actually go up in value...I would say at least double every 5 years. Can't say that about a trailer....that's for sure. But a trailer actually makes you money....gets your gear from point A to point B....so I wasn't really expecting anybody to trade for a trailer....it was more of a joke.

TimsLawnCareVA
06-18-2008, 07:31 PM
I was cutting 12-15 yards solo on Saturdays grossing around $800 up until I got smart and hired some help 3 weeks ago. Best thing I ever did is buy another z and hire someone. 5 of the yards are 2+ acres.

Howard Roark
06-18-2008, 09:38 PM
Gross means nothing.

Just as Rod has said in many posts past.

Liendeni
06-18-2008, 09:42 PM
I agree Howard....doesn't do you much good if you are grossing $100K a year and its costing you $101K to run your business.

mattfromNY
06-18-2008, 10:36 PM
The most i made in one day was $2,300 in 9.5 hrs, but i have a new question what the most amout of houses you have done in one 8hr day as a solo op?????

Not solo, I have an employee. BUT, the week of memorial day he was sick and I was behind from the mem. day w/end. On tuesday, the day after mem. day I mowed our biggest commercial account solo, took me 8 hours on the Z, with no trimming, then Wednesday I mowed 23 small- mid size (2-7K) lawns that day. I was exhausted to say the least.
I told my employee I'll shoot him if he ever gets sick again! :cry::cry: Actually, this week I hired another guy part time for a couple busy days each week. Seems good to be in the house by 7 or 8 each evening. My family was beginning to wonder if I still lived here. :laugh:

Tom-N-Texas
06-18-2008, 10:42 PM
i busted my rearend and grossed 600 today. not too shabby for 7 1/2 hours huh? whats your best days gross? solo only please. thanks.


randy.

That's pretty good, but my question is why you'd work alone if you're making that kind of money? You could've used a helper, paid him 40 bucks and been done by lunchtime. :) You essentially worked the last half of your day for just a few extra dollars.

J.A.G LAWNCARE
06-18-2008, 11:18 PM
i do about 20 yards a day and make 150 a day .....14 hours 8 am to 10 pm

J&R Landscaping
06-18-2008, 11:27 PM
i do about 20 yards a day and make 150 a day .....14 hours 8 am to 10 pm

Damn, thats a really weak margin....

puppypaws
06-18-2008, 11:28 PM
I agree Howard....doesn't do you much good if you are grossing 100K a year and its costing you 101K to run your business.

That is exactly the way our government would like for the economy to function, keep all that money in circulation. The way things are going; there are many people already living from paycheck to paycheck, if they can make it that far.

whoopassonthebluegrass
06-19-2008, 01:53 AM
Last year I did $1,000 each Friday mowing 4 chapels...

Those accounts were temporarily subbed out to me... I miss them now...

This year, last Wednesday, actually, I grossed $958. It took me 12 hours to do it, though...

supercuts
06-19-2008, 07:02 AM
wow, i made a $1000 in four hours years ago cleaning up a lawn that had not been done in a year for a realty company. it was all saplings, hedges, and a hay field. now thats my daily goal

DaughtryLC
06-19-2008, 07:16 AM
Or if you worked 24 hours each day. :weightlifter:

I think some of my customers think this, The way they call me at all HRS.

JNyz
06-19-2008, 07:25 AM
Ive had a few ,and I mean few 1000 plus days. this past spring I sold 12 giant Bamboo plants for 100$ installed, I got the plants for free and it took 9 hours, my little excavator used less than 3 gal deisel and mabey 4 to 5 gal gas for the truck, that was my only expense.

When I was full time I did 17 houses in 1 day, that was 15 years ago, now at 43 it wolud make me tired

Your only expense????? What about insurance, machine cost, maintenance, billing, computer. I think you have more then fuel for expenses. You need an accountant.

larryinalabama
06-19-2008, 08:31 AM
Your only expense????? What about insurance, machine cost, maintenance, billing, computer. I think you have more then fuel for expenses. You need an accountant.

I understand what your saying, I was just stating that I got 12 plants for free and sold them installed at 100$ each. My excavator, trailer, and truck are all paid for. The excavator is fairly new so maintance is not really an issue yet, a 4$ tube of grease and an accaosinal oil change is all she gets.
My truck is worn out and could require a repair expense at any time, even at that she rearly breaks down. My insurance is a constant factor that gets paid even if I dont work. The customer paid me that day when I was leaving so no billing expense there and I didnt need a computer for that job.

I honestly dont have a figure on what it cost me per hour to run the excavator, but Im guessing its 7to8 $ per hour. To rent one its 240$ per day, Im no where near that.

topsites
06-19-2008, 10:41 AM
$467,525.00 on 1,803 lawns in one day, all by myself.
Or maybe not...

larryinalabama
06-19-2008, 11:01 AM
I drank 2 cases of beer in 2 hours and didnt even take a piss

whoopassonthebluegrass
06-19-2008, 11:07 AM
I drank 2 cases of beer in 2 hours and didnt even take a piss

Man, you musta been dehydrated. :laugh:

mowerman87
06-19-2008, 12:36 PM
You guys are crazy. Solo is a no-go. Its hard as hell and physically impossible to make as much as you could with help. Thats not to say I dont have bad days where things break and payroll runs me ragged, but you have to keep building up your enterprise and business acumen. I pay pretty high and never ask my guys to do something I wouldnt do. A decent day, with 4 guys besides myself will net me around $750. That number may not be awe-inspiring, but remember that a big customer-base leads to more referrals and neighbors, etc.

larryinalabama
06-19-2008, 12:52 PM
You guys are crazy. Solo is a no-go. Its hard as hell and physically impossible to make as much as you could with help. Thats not to say I dont have bad days where things break and payroll runs me ragged, but you have to keep building up your enterprise and business acumen. I pay pretty high and never ask my guys to do something I wouldnt do. A decent day, with 4 guys besides myself will net me around $750. That number may not be awe-inspiring, but remember that a big customer-base leads to more referrals and neighbors, etc.

We just dome want to be in the RAT RACE...... I do have alot of equiptment< I cant average 750$ per day but I do have some of those. 300-500 is enought for me

Charles
06-19-2008, 04:17 PM
Many of these solo numbers are blowing my mind. They seem to go up every post. Like, I can top that!:dizzy:
Maybe, I need to take Vitamins
12 to 20 yards. $700 to $2000 per day...ok fine..keep em coming:laugh:

punt66
06-19-2008, 04:58 PM
Im solo with 63 weekley cuts and average $650 a day mowing only. Today i did 5 yds mulch so add $350. $1000. Long day!

punt66
06-19-2008, 05:04 PM
I did have a helper for 2 hours this morning for the mulch however.

punt66
06-19-2008, 05:14 PM
Many of these solo numbers are blowing my mind. They seem to go up every post. Like, I can top that!:dizzy:
Maybe, I need to take Vitamins
12 to 20 yards. $700 to $2000 per day...ok fine..keep em coming:laugh:


Why is it blowing your mind? I do 12-13 a day solo and im usually done by 3. I dont stop for lunch. Thats what driving time is for. I do have a college kid help once in a while. maybe 5-10 hrs a week. It is a nice break. Oh yea and im fighting brain cancer :dizzy: These are easy numbers. The only time its a problem are rain outs or trying to find time for installs. I do installs on the weekend. Did a $4000 install last weekend. Had college kid and my wife to help. I do miss having time for vacations however. I am considering not snow plowing anymore for that reason.

lawnwizards
06-19-2008, 05:17 PM
That's pretty good, but my question is why you'd work alone if you're making that kind of money? You could've used a helper, paid him 40 bucks and been done by lunchtime. :) You essentially worked the last half of your day for just a few extra dollars.
i've scaled back this year and decided to go solo. i had a helper last year and he was more trouble then he was worth. i'm working alot harder this year but i'm happier doing it. to answer your question, i dont do 600 every day. i usually average around 250-300 per day.

Charles
06-19-2008, 07:56 PM
Why is it blowing your mind? I do 12-13 a day solo and im usually done by 3. I dont stop for lunch. Thats what driving time is for. I do have a college kid help once in a while. maybe 5-10 hrs a week. It is a nice break. Oh yea and im fighting brain cancer :dizzy: These are easy numbers. The only time its a problem are rain outs or trying to find time for installs. I do installs on the weekend. Did a $4000 install last weekend. Had college kid and my wife to help. I do miss having time for vacations however. I am considering not snow plowing anymore for that reason.

You would not do 12 to 13 South Carolina size lawns and be done by 3--solo. More like 9pm and your butte would be dragging thats for sure. Your lawns must be tiny. We have some small yards too but most take 40 minutes to an hour+. Temps hover around 95+ with high humidity most of the time.
What size are your lawns and how long do they take and what is your drive time and what does each one pay? Do you have to talk to customers to get paid? We are not talking about having help here. We are talking solo all the time.
I find it amazing that anyone would take on 12 to 13 yards per day for 5 days a week, Every week. What if it rains for a few days? When do you fit in hedges?. Like I said, must be tiny yards with not much drive time. Tiny yards don't pay that much around here. Maybe $35 at the most. $35 X 13 = $455.

punt66
06-19-2008, 08:56 PM
You would not do 12 to 13 South Carolina size lawns and be done by 3--solo. More like 9pm and your butte would be dragging thats for sure. Your lawns must be tiny. We have some small yards too but most take 40 minutes to an hour+. Temps hover around 95+ with high humidity most of the time.
What size are your lawns and how long do they take and what is your drive time and what does each one pay? Do you have to talk to customers to get paid? We are not talking about having help here. We are talking solo all the time.
I find it amazing that anyone would take on 12 to 13 yards per day for 5 days a week, Every week. What if it rains for a few days? When do you fit in hedges?. Like I said, must be tiny yards with not much drive time. Tiny yards don't pay that much around here. Maybe $35 at the most. $35 X 13 = $455.


Well my average lawn takes 30 min.My smallest takes 12 min. I have a $35 minimum. I average about 42 per cut. My largest takes me 1 hour and pays $85. hedge trimming is not part of lawn service up here in CT. I know in FL it is. Here its mow/trim/blow and go. Very little edging. This afternoon i did 5 in 2.5 hours. All other services are extra. Hedge trimming, weeding, even edging. Very few LCO's cary stick edgers. I olnly work within a 10 mile radius. 3 towns. My longest drive between customers is 10 min. I run a 52" ferris. Cuts fast as hell. Need anymore info? Happy to share. I must admit i do live in a well to do area so the market here is strong.

punt66
06-19-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh yea i forgot. Its usually 80 and fairly dry air here. My body couldnt take the southern humidity. I am amazed how you guys down there handle it.

punt66
06-19-2008, 09:03 PM
oh you asked about talking with customers. I bill monthly and a few leave envelopes under the matt. I very rarely see my customers and over half i never even met.

Charles
06-19-2008, 09:23 PM
The problem comes in when some on here say 12 to 15 every day solo--every week. You would have to have a lot of tiny yards close together etc etc. What is that? 120 customers? No room for rainy days with that. No room for fatigue.
I have yards that take 2 hours including drive time and talking to customers. One commercial is 5 hours The bigger the yard the less it pays per hour here. I have some small yards too. I would say my average is .45 minutes per yard, then add drive time. This with a 60 inch deck Z
When I sometimes reach 10. Usually with no lunch. I am worn out. Hot and tired and don't feel like doing anymore.
I would dream of having enough tiny yards that I could do 12 to 15 per day lol

punt66
06-19-2008, 09:39 PM
Well were in differnt markets. Also we do weekly cuts here. So thats 63 customers that get cut weekly. Most accounts are within 5 minutes of each other. Some are 3 in a row. I find it very easy. I pick up my daughter at daycare at 4pm everyday. Our season here is also shorter than yours. I have 1 day thats a little longer because of 2 yards that are large. I do them on the same day to get them out of the way. Usually by 12 noon i am at number 7 or 8. We dont get several days of rain here. Maybe a rainy afternoon. I will cut in the rain but only yards that are not "prized". That way i have less to make up on the next day. Oh and i am SOLO. I have a cousin whi is 18 and in college who on occasion wants to earn his $10 per hour and he doesnt like working more than a half day so i only use him on installs.

johnnybravo8802
06-19-2008, 11:05 PM
I put $11,000 in my pocket in one month before on an install. It would have been $22,000 but I had to split it with my dead beat partner. Having a partner is another lesson learned!!!Don't do it. Of course, I have never done that again. I was able to pay some stuff off which is good. I need to do more landscaping.:dancing:

yard_smart
06-19-2008, 11:27 PM
couple weeks ago i did $1038 gross power washing from 9 to 2 with a half hour lunch

net was around 9











why do i mow again???? lol

puppypaws
06-19-2008, 11:37 PM
Well were in differnt markets. Also we do weekly cuts here. So thats 63 customers that get cut weekly. Most accounts are within 5 minutes of each other. Some are 3 in a row. I find it very easy. I pick up my daughter at daycare at 4pm everyday. Our season here is also shorter than yours. I have 1 day thats a little longer because of 2 yards that are large. I do them on the same day to get them out of the way. Usually by 12 noon i am at number 7 or 8. We dont get several days of rain here. Maybe a rainy afternoon. I will cut in the rain but only yards that are not "prized". That way i have less to make up on the next day. Oh and i am SOLO. I have a cousin whi is 18 and in college who on occasion wants to earn his $10 per hour and he doesnt like working more than a half day so i only use him on installs.

You are in a very different market with the cost of everything being much higher than in SC. I'd say you would need to make 40% more money in Connecticut to maintain an equivalent lifestyle in SC.

topsites
06-19-2008, 11:40 PM
Many of these solo numbers are blowing my mind. They seem to go up every post. Like, I can top that!:dizzy:
Maybe, I need to take Vitamins
12 to 20 yards. $700 to $2000 per day...ok fine..keep em coming:laugh:

Word of advice from what I learned out of these threads: Don't let the greed get to you.
In the sickness of my mind I have a small amount of appreciation for the possible humor angle, that is, if the greed gets to someone else... But it got me last year, and although I do somewhat see the hahaha part I nevertheless found the end results far less than amusing.

Where are we, $200,000 a day with lawns that take 2 minutes and a minimum $5,000 charge, right?
Where is that, in a one Lco town?
Where every customer just so happens to have 2-3 thousand a year they can throw around?
And they all just happen to live within less than a 4 minute drive of each other?
Yeah, right.

We just dome want to be in the RAT RACE...... I do have alot of equiptment< I cant average 750$ per day but I do have some of those. 300-500 is enought for me

That was my whole thing too, it doesn't friggin' matter if I gross 100 a day or 400 a day it's all the same dang money at the end of the month... Got tired of running myself ragged and watching the quality go out the door as well.

As for hitting record numbers, sure I can re-schedule everything so as to squeeze the most work possible into just one day... But one of two things happen: One in the early years it doesn't work out that way, and two in the later years I'd rather not work myself right out of a job.

Green Team Landscaping
06-20-2008, 12:15 AM
im 14 and i netted $140 im 5 hours. a little bit better than what market basket would pay me huh?

whoopassonthebluegrass
06-20-2008, 12:36 AM
What size are your lawns and how long do they take and what is your drive time and what does each one pay? Do you have to talk to customers to get paid? We are not talking about having help here. We are talking solo all the time.
I find it amazing that anyone would take on 12 to 13 yards per day for 5 days a week, Every week.

Here where I am the typical yard is 6-7k. About 35% of my clientèle is between 10 and 15k. I mow Tuesday through Friday. Right now I am at 59 accounts. On a typical day, to get from the first to the last lawn on my route I drive less than 5 miles. Cost is $1,891/59 = $32 Average time is maybe 20-24 minutes each...

JNyz
06-20-2008, 06:56 AM
[QUOTE=yard_smart;2382512]couple weeks ago i did $1038 gross power washing from 9 to 2 with a half hour lunch

net was around



What were your expenses??????

yard_smart
06-20-2008, 07:39 AM
[QUOTE=yard_smart;2382512]couple weeks ago i did $1038 gross power washing from 9 to 2 with a half hour lunch

net was around 9 something



What were your expenses??????


Chemical and gas

I make a salary from the company so i don't figure that in job to job i take it out of the month gross

i prolly had 50 in fuels and 20 chem

punt66
06-20-2008, 07:59 AM
Word of advice from what I learned out of these threads: Don't let the greed get to you.
In the sickness of my mind I have a small amount of appreciation for the possible humor angle, that is, if the greed gets to someone else... But it got me last year, and although I do somewhat see the hahaha part I nevertheless found the end results far less than amusing.

Where are we, $200,000 a day with lawns that take 2 minutes and a minimum $5,000 charge, right?
Where is that, in a one Lco town?
Where every customer just so happens to have 2-3 thousand a year they can throw around?
And they all just happen to live within less than a 4 minute drive of each other?
Yeah, right.

That was my whole thing too, it doesn't friggin' matter if I gross 100 a day or 400 a day it's all the same dang money at the end of the month... Got tired of running myself ragged and watching the quality go out the door as well.

As for hitting record numbers, sure I can re-schedule everything so as to squeeze the most work possible into just one day... But one of two things happen: One in the early years it doesn't work out that way, and two in the later years I'd rather not work myself right out of a job.


Haters in here! Sorry if you find iy hard to believe. If you do the math its easy to calculate. By the way in my market cost of living is very high. My home cost $330,000 of which we pay $7400 in property tax. We also get hit yearly with vehicle propert tax. In the winter we burn alot of fuel to keep warm. The list goes on. For you youngens you wont understand that untill you get a few years under your belt. I guess you guys out in the hills of virginia and the carolina's know my market better than i do. Homes here average 2400sq ft and many over 4000. I just shared my story on the thread sorry if i stepped on any toes. I dont need anybody's approval hahah. My Harley, 66 mustang conv, 62 vette, ans 66 cyclone Gt says it all on their own :dancing: I wish you all success

David Haggerty
06-20-2008, 08:13 AM
I've had some $1,000 days. Which isn't a lot considering the equipment I have.
But, the longer I stay in business, the closer the net figure gets to the gross amount.

cybervision
06-20-2008, 01:46 PM
You are in a very different market with the cost of everything being much higher than in SC. I'd say you would need to make 40% more money in Connecticut to maintain an equivalent lifestyle in SC.

Puppypaws,

I sent you a PM on another subject.

Cybervision

JNyz
06-20-2008, 03:23 PM
[QUOTE=JNyz;2382829]


Chemical and gas

I make a salary from the company so i don't figure that in job to job i take it out of the month gross

i prolly had 50 in fuels and 20 chem

if you don't figure in the expenses how can you figure out your net???????????

yard_smart
06-20-2008, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE=yard_smart;2382850]

if you don't figure in the expenses how can you figure out your net???????????

Well i did the jobs alone and if you want me to run the numbers i can, i thought you were just talking supply expenses sorry

my 100 dollar a week salary is not in my business model

I only draw that much so i can allow for max growth of my company

i still live at home and don't have very many bills so this is a golden opportunity to venture out into business


okay worked from 9 to 2 with half hour lunch so that 4.5 hours take out .5 for drive time so roughly 4 hours of working


i pay my guys 10 an hour so that would have knock it down another 40 buck

40 for labor 70 material my ins is .79 an hour so 3.16 for ins. puts us at 113.16 round up to an even 120 for misc stuff so i was looking around

913

I know my numbers so when i said i made nine something thats what i meant :D

whoopassonthebluegrass
06-20-2008, 07:12 PM
if you don't figure in the expenses how can you figure out your net???????????

Didn't you get the memo? Lawn guys aren't supposed to know what their bottom line is. It's too depressing. At least, I ASSUME that's why most on here don't have a clue...

johnnybravo8802
06-20-2008, 09:07 PM
Didn't you get the memo? Lawn guys aren't supposed to know what their bottom line is. It's too depressing. At least, I ASSUME that's why most on here don't have a clue...
Oh come on!!!!!!!Knowing a bottom line makes too much sense. If people in this business actually knew a bottom line, everyone would literally be charging what things are worth and we'd all be making money instead of the bar being set so low. I personally gave up on my bottom line because nobody wants to pay what things are actually worth-too many others have ruined that for the true professionals. Look at fuel costs for example-Is anybody truly getting compensated for the fuel costs? No.... Most LCO's around here don't even own a wheel for measuring-they just eyeball and say, "I think they'll probably pay this" and usually the number is really low and normally they are right, about what they were willing to pay. Too many LCO's are uneducated in the real costs of running a business and the customer is taking advantage of that, which is only human(win-win for the customer). Unfortunately, it hurts the ones who are running their business correctly. I'd love to see some change, but with this economy, it's only going to get worse. I saw an add in th local paper the other day that said, "Out of work lawn maintenance, we need the work!":hammerhead::hammerhead: I rest my case.

JNyz
06-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Oh come on!!!!!!!Knowing a bottom line makes too much sense. If people in this business actually knew a bottom line, everyone would literally be charging what things are worth and we'd all be making money instead of the bar being set so low. I personally gave up on my bottom line because nobody wants to pay what things are actually worth-too many others have ruined that for the true professionals. Look at fuel costs for example-Is anybody truly getting compensated for the fuel costs? No.... Most LCO's around here don't even own a wheel for measuring-they just eyeball and say, "I think they'll probably pay this" and usually the number is really low and normally they are right, about what they were willing to pay. Too many LCO's are uneducated in the real costs of running a business and the customer is taking advantage of that, which is only human(win-win for the customer). Unfortunately, it hurts the ones who are running their business correctly. I'd love to see some change, but with this economy, it's only going to get worse. I saw an add in th local paper the other day that said, "Out of work lawn maintenance, we need the work!":hammerhead::hammerhead: I rest my case.

I could not have said it better myself. I don't mean to jump down people's throats but it just irritates me when some say I grossed 1100.00 today and I my net was 900 after my fuel and paying my two guys 10 an hour. Don't they see they have a truck expense even though they don't have a payment? What about a equipment maintenance? I just don't understand it! I really want to start a post where everyone tries to guess their yearly expenses then goes and figures out their actual expenses, I am sure they will be off by 60%.

Uneducated in real costs is a mild statement. What about uneducated in landscaping/maintenance. I have a buddy who has been in the biz for over ten years and still can't tell the difference between a rose bush and an oak tree. God bless him he feeds his family.

lawnwizards
06-20-2008, 10:29 PM
I could not have said it better myself. I don't mean to jump down people's throats but it just irritates me when some say I grossed 1100.00 today and I my net was 900 after my fuel and paying my two guys 10 an hour. Don't they see they have a truck expense even though they don't have a payment? What about a equipment maintenance? I just don't understand it! I really want to start a post where everyone tries to guess their yearly expenses then goes and figures out their actual expenses, I am sure they will be off by 60%.

Uneducated in real costs is a mild statement. What about uneducated in landscaping/maintenance. I have a buddy who has been in the biz for over ten years and still can't tell the difference between a rose bush and an oak tree. God bless him he feeds his family.

maybe you should write a book? if we got everyone on the same page then maybe we could make more money. couldnt hurt.

johnnybravo8802
06-20-2008, 10:45 PM
I could not have said it better myself. I don't mean to jump down people's throats but it just irritates me when some say I grossed 1100.00 today and I my net was 900 after my fuel and paying my two guys 10 an hour. Don't they see they have a truck expense even though they don't have a payment? What about a equipment maintenance? I just don't understand it! I really want to start a post where everyone tries to guess their yearly expenses then goes and figures out their actual expenses, I am sure they will be off by 60%.

Uneducated in real costs is a mild statement. What about uneducated in landscaping/maintenance. I have a buddy who has been in the biz for over ten years and still can't tell the difference between a rose bush and an oak tree. God bless him he feeds his family.
I agree 100%. I can't believe the people who buy a skid steer or a mower and call themselves professionals overnight after quitting their job at Home Depot yesterday. I was originally going to be a landscape architect and have taken some design courses but I still don't call myself a landscape professional-I believe in formal education!! People shouldn't use terms so loosely.

JNyz
06-20-2008, 10:58 PM
This is another one that kills me. My buddy has a daily expense of 100.00 after labor 12 months a year. He does very little December through February. He doesn't get that he is down 6000 as of March 1 and that every day he works for the next three months his expense is 200.00/day. So if he grossed 800 a day his net would only be around 350/day with his three man crew. And I know he does not gross that everyday. It seems most guys who gross 800 think they net 600.00.

johnnybravo8802
06-20-2008, 11:05 PM
This is another one that kills me. My buddy has a daily expense of 100.00 after labor 12 months a year. He does very little December through February. He doesn't get that he is down 6000 as of March 1 and that every day he works for the next three months his expense is 200.00/day. So if he grossed 800 a day his net would only be around 350/day with his three man crew. And I know he does not gross that everyday. It seems most guys who gross 800 think they net 600.00.
That's why I run solo as much as possible. I do as much as I possibly can and then hire someone

JNyz
06-21-2008, 07:21 AM
One more thing while I am on a rant. If you do not pay all your taxes, insurances, and other expenses you are required to pay you should still have those things built into the price. Why should the customer benefit from you not doing that. You should!!!

daveyo
06-21-2008, 08:02 AM
Haters in here! Sorry if you find iy hard to believe. If you do the math its easy to calculate. By the way in my market cost of living is very high. My home cost $330,000 of which we pay $7400 in property tax. We also get hit yearly with vehicle propert tax. In the winter we burn alot of fuel to keep warm. The list goes on. For you youngens you wont understand that untill you get a few years under your belt. I guess you guys out in the hills of virginia and the carolina's know my market better than i do. Homes here average 2400sq ft and many over 4000. I just shared my story on the thread sorry if i stepped on any toes. I dont need anybody's approval hahah. My Harley, 66 mustang conv, 62 vette, ans 66 cyclone Gt says it all on their own :dancing: I wish you all success

I'm in the same exact expense situation your in, I guess if I tell them my average residential property is 3500sq' and I get 42 for it and it takes me 18 minutes to cut I'm a liar. I live in S. NJ my house cost 343,000 for 2400sq', almost all the homes here are that and obviously more. Taxes 6800/yr so if I charge 149.99 / acre to mow one of my properties theres a reason, oh yea and that takes me one hour. I could go on and on but I must be joking right Charles? because I don't live in your economic region. Oh yea, my family car Cadillac escalade. I don't know how old you are punt but I hope one day I can own just one of those cars, nice job!!

punt66
06-21-2008, 09:21 AM
I'm in the same exact expense situation your in, I guess if I tell them my average residential property is 3500sq' and I get 42 for it and it takes me 18 minutes to cut I'm a liar. I live in S. NJ my house cost 343,000 for 2400sq', almost all the homes here are that and obviously more. Taxes 6800/yr so if I charge 149.99 / acre to mow one of my properties theres a reason, oh yea and that takes me one hour. I could go on and on but I must be joking right Charles? because I don't live in your economic region. Oh yea, my family car Cadillac escalade. I don't know how old you are punt but I hope one day I can own just one of those cars, nice job!!


Finally! Somebody who gets it haha. I thought i was all alone. Some people just think they know it all dont they? If i lived in a $10,000 trailer i would be ok with $200 a day too. But to each is own. The cars were accumulated over time. My Road king is a recent purchase. By the way i am 34.

lawnwizards
06-21-2008, 09:54 AM
Finally! Somebody who gets it haha. I thought i was all alone. Some people just think they know it all dont they? If i lived in a $10,000 trailer i would be ok with $200 a day too. But to each is own. The cars were accumulated over time. My Road king is a recent purchase. By the way i am 34.
your numbers are very skewed. so, since you live in a 330,000 dollar house it means you must make 6600 a day. correct? thats impossible solo.

punt66
06-21-2008, 11:46 AM
what? My sales are on average $650 a day. Thats not my net. Why is it so hard to believe i have 63 customers??? This is what i do full time. I will give and idea of cost of living up here.

1. Mortgage payment $2400 per month
2. truck payment $520 per month
3. utilities combined $800
4. fuel costs $600 month
5. insurance $200 month
6. food $400 month


and on and on


no you do the math!
can you do that on $200 a day?

lawnwizards
06-21-2008, 11:58 AM
what? My sales are on average $650 a day. Thats not my net. Why is it so hard to believe i have 63 customers??? This is what i do full time. I will give and idea of cost of living up here.

1. Mortgage payment $2400 per month
2. truck payment $520 per month
3. utilities combined $800
4. fuel costs $600 month
5. insurance $200 month
6. food $400 month


and on and on


no you do the math!
can you do that on $200 a day?

youre the one who said those who live in 10k trailers are happy making 200 per day. i just did the math on your 330k house and you should be making 6600 per day according to your numbers. pretty skewed if you ask me.

yard_smart
06-21-2008, 12:31 PM
Man You Guys Are Edgy

puppypaws
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
what? My sales are on average $650 a day. Thats not my net. Why is it so hard to believe i have 63 customers??? This is what i do full time. I will give and idea of cost of living up here.

1. Mortgage payment $2400 per month
2. truck payment $520 per month
3. utilities combined $800
4. fuel costs $600 month
5. insurance $200 month
6. food $400 month


and on and on


no you do the math!
can you do that on $200 a day?

Like I said before, you are living in a high dollar area. You need to generate considerably more income than the gentleman in SC even if you both lived equal lifestyles.

I would like to know your property tax rate in that area, just curious. I am already aware everything you use money for is considerably more expensive than it would be in NC or SC. This is one of the reasons, along with the weather people are migrating from the north into our area in unbelievable numbers.

daveyo
06-22-2008, 09:43 AM
youre the one who said those who live in 10k trailers are happy making 200 per day. i just did the math on your 330k house and you should be making 6600 per day according to your numbers. pretty skewed if you ask me.

Your being smart, thats obviously not how you would do the math. What hes saying is somebody with lower personal standards and no goals could live on 200 per day. Now am I saying theres something wrong with that? for me yes, but thats not me and I really don't care. We need to charge what we need to charge to make a living. Either I get the job or I don't but I'll be damned if I'm cutting a piece of paper for $25.00.