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freshprince94
06-18-2008, 11:10 AM
Guys with large machines (48, 52, 60), do you just mow gated backyards with a 21" or not take them at all?

dishboy
06-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Guys with large machines (48, 52, 60), do you just mow gated backyards with a 21" or not take them at all?

Most modern gates are 44, a 42 is ideal or a 36. Walker and Wright have 42's with Walker being a easy deck swap to any size or style.

mowerbrad
06-18-2008, 11:23 AM
Usually I will use my 21" for any gated backyards. But if it is big backyard then the gates tend to be big enough for me to fit my 52" back there.

SNAPPER MAN
06-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Most gated yards here in Houston have gates that are only 36" so the fastest way for me to cut them is to use my 32" walkbehind, or my 21" Snapper.

timmac
06-18-2008, 11:30 AM
only have 1 and i mow it with a 21. takes about 10 minutes.

KCfireman
06-18-2008, 12:08 PM
believe it or not but i have actually asked my customers if i could turn their single gate into a double gate and most of the time they say yes.

Liendeni
06-18-2008, 12:48 PM
Don't know about your area but here where I live about 20-25% of owners have a gate. I bought a 36 inch WTB just for this purpose....didn't really want to be turning down 20-25% of my customers. Also....I have two properties that are literally so small and so close together....that if I used my 52 inch mower than I would be going way into the neighbors yard as I took a swipe down the side. Not sure how the neighbors would feel about having have their yard mowed on one side and not the other....so again... I use the 36 WTB for this purpose.

I can see how a 21 inch would be enough if you were just starting out like myself....but I can also see how if you get enough yards with fences...and you are walking all these gated areas out with a 21 inch....that you would be seriously slowing yourself down. I use a sulky on my 36 and off I go. Much...much faster....light years faster.

F.S Lawn Care
06-18-2008, 03:25 PM
I use the 36 if my 48 doesnt fit. I hate using 21's with a passion after using them for years. Some of the gates are so crappy they are only hanging on with hinges and I just take them off and it fits right through.

BUCKEYE MOWING
06-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Go with a 36 if possible and 21 only if inflating the price enough to cover the extra labor and effort.

DoetschOutdoor
06-18-2008, 03:55 PM
No way on earth am I getting out a 21" mower. The ONLY gates around here that my 36 wb wont fit into are houses that were built a hundred years ago and I dont even want most of those customers. I cant imagine jumping off a big mower to push mow just a back yard.

Lawn-Sharks
06-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Guys with large machines (48, 52, 60), do you just mow gated backyards with a 21" or not take them at all?

When i started out i took every job i could get but i only had 2 accounts where my 48" & 52" wouldn't fit and i would push mow w/21" but after about a month of that crap i went and scored a deal ($300) on my 36" gravely Wb and i was good to go from their on, I still take on work with gates but if the back yard it too big then i up the price $$$ more walking = more moneypayup

freshprince94
06-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Thanks guys. About 75% of my accounts have gates, I need to measure them but we only have 36" and some 42" gates.

ProStreetCamaro
06-18-2008, 06:41 PM
Thats what our 34Z is for. Push mower? What the heck is that? I havent touched one of those old things since...................... Well actually never and I am going to keep it that way.

Cut It Close
06-18-2008, 06:47 PM
5-6 of my accounts have gates where my 48" bobcat won't fit. So I use my 36" toro. I use the velke on both.

punt66
06-18-2008, 06:53 PM
My trailer has never carried a mower less than 52". If a 52 wont fit then i pass on it. I have only passed on 1. Most gates around here are large enough. 21"! never

metro36
06-18-2008, 06:58 PM
If my 36 will not fit I pass except if the back yard is micro sized. I only priced out 1 yard to small for my 36 for a cheap little old lady and I did not get the job any way. For me more :walking: means more payup.

greenred
06-18-2008, 07:04 PM
I had one lady one time that had a fenced in back yard that was about half a acre. The gate was just small enough that my 52 inch deck on my Z would not fit through. So I was stuck cutting and often double cutting with a 36 inch wb that really did not have the power to deal with her constantly wet, tall, thick turf. I had a bright idea one day and asked her for permission to modify her fence if I did it in a way that you could not tell or see. It was a wooden fence about 4 feet high in 10 foot sections. What I did was remove the screws holding one section in to the posts. Build female parts for the post and male parts for the ends of the section of fence and installed them in a way that unless you where looking directly down at them you could not see them. Then when it was time to mow all I had to do was simply lift the section of fence out and go to town. I made the parts with quality oak too so they would probably outlast her pine fence. Man was it nice that first time getting back there with my Z. Great customer but for the life of me I couldn't convince her not to over water and over fertilize her lawn so.

But other then this one freak lawn my 36inch WB worked awesome as a gated lawn mower.

ealbertson
06-18-2008, 07:27 PM
I, when possible hinge one of the sections of the fence. I will be doing my third one in a week or so. I even pay for materials and do the work for free. If you think about it it makes sence. Depending on the lawn you make your money back on the first cut.

grassmedics
06-18-2008, 07:40 PM
I have a 36 miniz and a snapper pro 21inch. I have 1or2gates that the 36 doesnt fit through. I will use the 21 one of them, and the other i take the whole fence down. lol

freshprince94
06-18-2008, 08:25 PM
I don't have enough room to widen the gate at most of my properties.

STIHL GUY
06-18-2008, 08:44 PM
i only have one and the back takes less than 5 minutes with a 21 so its not too bad

Shaded Green
06-18-2008, 09:00 PM
I think I've seen 2 crews in this area with a 21" mower in their arsenal. 2 crews in 12 years. In my past, we've used our trimmers on areas where a 48" couldn't fit. I've never even seen a 36" mower.

In my personal opinion, 21" of mower is a waste of time. If you are a capable trimmer, you should be able to trim most areas faster than you could cut and trim using a 21" mower. Remember, after you are done pushing that thing around, you still have to trim anyways. Are you telling me you can't swing your trimmer faster than you can push a 21?

Anyone who says that weedwacking a lawn is unprofessional should consider the actual amount of grass that gets trimmed each day. Pretty significant when you think about it.

freshprince94
06-18-2008, 09:10 PM
I think I've seen 2 crews in this area with a 21" mower in their arsenal. 2 crews in 12 years. In my past, we've used our trimmers on areas where a 48" couldn't fit. I've never even seen a 36" mower.

In my personal opinion, 21" of mower is a waste of time. If you are a capable trimmer, you should be able to trim most areas faster than you could cut and trim using a 21" mower. Remember, after you are done pushing that thing around, you still have to trim anyways. Are you telling me you can't swing your trimmer faster than you can push a 21?

Anyone who says that weedwacking a lawn is unprofessional should consider the actual amount of grass that gets trimmed each day. Pretty significant when you think about it.

If I was to use a 21", it would be self propelled.

I actually have a yard where I weedeat the back. It is small.

subs1000w
06-18-2008, 11:30 PM
about half my lawns have gates and i would say half of the gates wont alow for a 36 the posts might be 36in apart but with the hinges and gate it wont fit so i have a 32 which is a life saver and ive also modified 2 wooden fences to acamodate my 48 or 61 i do still have a 21 on the trailer even though i HATE using it but i have one yard that has a 28in gate and its to big to trim i also have some yards that i have to go up or down stairs and the 32 is to heavy for that

DuallyVette
06-19-2008, 12:14 AM
If my 52" mowers won't fit, You can have it !!!