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CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 09:25 PM
Ok guys...

Just for the record, I'm back @ the bottom of the pole. I install what a Rep bid's out...Many things I have been doing I take issue with....I was warned about coming to corporate America and having to Install what someone
who has barely any irrigation exp bids out...The kid is great and is still learning, but needs to study precip rate very closely...thats all i will say.
So please take this as a strong caution from now on....

Deal?

I have used 3/8's funny pipe to 17mm drip fittings....mixed sprays n rotors....Put bubblers on drip zones.....

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 09:51 PM
ok guys here goes..
12 heads needed to be raised, replaced, and some relocated due to plow's and touristas poor driving..
me/fellow tech discussed pros/ cons on moving them up..He assured me that even in this sandy soil climate the water from the hunter pro sprays shooting up hill that gravity would keep the soil close to the road wet.....time will tell Comments?

heads in question

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someone needs to lay off the fast food
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sandy soil great digging heads most likely not packed properly
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want more?

jimmyburg
06-18-2008, 09:57 PM
they wont let you wear shorts? nice pics i wish we had that sandy stuff here.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 10:00 PM
they wont let you wear shorts? nice pics i wish we had that sandy stuff here.

I think your allowed to...but all the years I have been doing irrigation I have
always worn pants....Can't do it anyother way..unless its turn ons no digging in july..

Check out the double front fit padded knees on the pants..both sides tabooooot

jimmyburg
06-18-2008, 10:03 PM
they look like they get heavy when wet like jeans.

Wet_Boots
06-18-2008, 10:04 PM
Slope helps out the watering. I see enough poison ivy to not mind wearing the jeans. Painter pants are good in hotter weather.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Slope helps out the watering. I see enough poison ivy to not mind wearing the jeans. Painter pants are good in hotter weather.

Ive got some on my arms from a few weeks ago,furthermore I've used primer on my arms today 3 times to deter potential P.I.

BrandonV
06-18-2008, 10:26 PM
i never wear shorts, its not bad if you NEVER wear shorts, you get used to it.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-18-2008, 10:28 PM
i never wear shorts, its not bad if you NEVER wear shorts, you get used to it.

bingo...Im seriously thinking about buying those poly prop undergarments

Without A Drought
06-18-2008, 10:39 PM
I would probably leave the field if i couldn't wear shorts. that would drive me nuts.

Wet_Boots
06-18-2008, 10:43 PM
One of my first outdoor jobs involved some nasty fluids, and I got used to long sleeves and pants. I have to wonder about some of the grunt work of past years, once OSHA looks into it.

EagleLandscape
06-18-2008, 11:13 PM
Depending on how much of a liability it is with those things getting run over and plowed over, you could almost opt for having them shoot towards the concrete while still trying to minimize spray. the water spent over spraying, will probably be less than having to fix those heads once a year.

my 2 cents.

irrig8r
06-18-2008, 11:44 PM
Anyone know what this little plastic lever-like piece is for?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/g.catanese/SFnFfYow0xI/AAAAAAAABe4/Vawg-xP4Fbg/s144/0618080857a.jpg

Clues:

1. It's from one of my least favorite and hardest to service valves...

2. It's a 3/4" valve w/ no flow control....

3. Some people like to use them for drip.. (though this was used with PGPs)

Damn... picture isn't showing up...stay tuned...

irrig8r
06-18-2008, 11:52 PM
Been a long day... too much mud and not enough beer... but I'm on my way to reversing that ratio...

Wet_Boots
06-18-2008, 11:55 PM
I think I'll need a ouija board

Wet_Boots
06-19-2008, 12:03 AM
1) have another beer
2) take another picture

or vice-versa

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 06:50 AM
One of my first outdoor jobs involved some nasty fluids, and I got used to long sleeves and pants. I have to wonder about some of the grunt work of past years, once OSHA looks into it.

I cant do long sleeves yet...but long carhart double front pants are the norm for me..i bring the goldbond with on the hot days...

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 06:51 AM
Depending on how much of a liability it is with those things getting run over and plowed over, you could almost opt for having them shoot towards the concrete while still trying to minimize spray. the water spent over spraying, will probably be less than having to fix those heads once a year.

my 2 cents.

my thoughts as well..
but I was assured that no dry spots would come of the project...

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 07:01 AM
our latest install..2 guys 12 hours 1500 feet of drip..

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all 12 inch techline

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.25 gpm admitter on that pot

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packasandra and jap maple
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my ideas on how to get water up the deck with out a drill
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Sweet flow with a 40 psi regulator and filter..we both were very happy with the push or as mike Leary would say grip
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prob 5 gph here
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tick
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CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 07:09 AM
ok here is yesterday's job's...

we get there i see a few 570's and a ton of railroad ties with much hand work to get water to certain spots...So, I told the other tech you start drilling and I'll work on using the existing sprinkler feeds and see what we can do..

by the time his second drill ran out of juice i had almost all the feeds ready for usage..All that it took was a little time and effort and some grunt work...

Needless to say the other guy was impresses....I belive he later attempted to take credit for my dilligance but hey...I like the guy....

so take notes pups...if you can use existing pipes..USE THEM AND TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH JOBS BEFORE YOU START WASTING THE BATTERY ON YOUR DRILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

digging up the the only T that went directly under the deck and to the house
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I was on my belly for this pic but you can see teh poly feed under the set of stairs
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EagleLandscape
06-19-2008, 08:00 AM
sweeeeet, thanks for the pics!

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-19-2008, 08:21 AM
sweeeeet, thanks for the pics!

DITTO.....

Now the jackals can come out.:cry:

EagleLandscape
06-19-2008, 08:33 AM
Peter, you goin bikin' on saturday? i got an appointment at 10 and at 2 on saturday, but the fiance is working so im gonna be bored out of my mind!!!:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-19-2008, 09:32 AM
Peter, you goin bikin' on saturday? i got an appointment at 10 and at 2 on saturday, but the fiance is working so im gonna be bored out of my mind!!!:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:
Send me a text Sat. Morning. Web like to hit it early if we can. The rain may foul up the trails but i still go.

irrig8r
06-19-2008, 11:13 AM
1) have another beer
2) take another picture

or vice-versa

What I was attempting to show was a little plastic component from inside a Hardie 700 series 3/4" valve.

As far as I'm concerned the engineer ought to be strung up by his pinkies and lashed with #14 wire...

Too many parts, reinvention of the wheel for no good reason, etc.

OK, maybe they had a good reason (increasing flow through valves) but in most cases where I've seen them installed, there was water hammer (probably because the designer/installer didn't look at the charts and was trying to accomplish the job with too few valves).

Anyway, it's absolutely crystal clear that the designer of these valves, with their odd small parts, had no field experience.

Six of them in one valve box yesterday morning... all under a mound of soil that filled the box (gophers).

Up to my elbows in mud before 8:30 AM is not a fun way to start the day... one was seeping badly... solenoid base snapped off in my hand when I thought to tighten it... surrounding roots indicated it was cracked and leaking there for a while.

Replacing all today with 1" DVFs. Fortunately there iss enough space between existing valves to accomodate the switch.

Mike Leary
06-19-2008, 11:22 AM
so take notes pups...

Note to pup: get a grip on using swing joints. :hammerhead:

Wet_Boots
06-19-2008, 11:24 AM
No wonder I couldn't recognize the part. Almost never see any of those Hardie valves, in any size. As for gripes about the design, rest assured that the company did wish they could have had a do-over on that 3/4 inch valve.

CAPT Stream Rotar
06-19-2008, 08:52 PM
Note to pup: get a grip on using swing joints. :hammerhead:

exp plz thanks

Waterit
06-20-2008, 01:43 AM
What I was attempting to show was a little plastic component from inside a Hardie 700 series 3/4" valve.

Replaced a manifold Tuesday: (2) 1" Ultraflows and (2) 1" FloPros. First UF's I've seen in about 10 years, thought they'd ALL been replaced by now.

Wish I had taken a pic for h2ojoe!