Roll off, hook lift, etc

[allinearth]

Been looking at roll off beds, especially Switch n Go. Like em alright except the longest bed they build is 14'. I'm thinking 16' would be better for me. So does anyone have experience with another Co. that makes a longer set up?

[tthomass]

They go beyond 14'.......I have a 15' dumpster. Cost about $100-$150 extra......no big deal. I'm sure you can get longer if you want.

If you need a good dealer to talk to adn get a good price message me.

[Gravel Rat]

You can put a longer body on a rolloff but you loose your dump angle.

Short rails long box poor dump angle, proper length rails with the proper length body good dump angle.

[allinearth]

OK maybe it is 15' but it still leaves me with a 1' gap between cab anf box. Yeah I could put a tool box or something but not sure I want to go that route without exploring some options.

[tthomass]

if all you're worried about is a 1' gap......it won't look bad

have you taken into consideration cutting the excess of frame you may have that goes beyond the rear shackles to close that 1' gap?

[fool32696]

Cutting frame off of the back will put more weight on the long section of the frame possibly making it more likely to buckle. Think long and hard about the weight distribution. I just sold a gooseneck trailer that I loved because the company that built it obviously didn't know anything about engineering. Every time that I put ANY load on it, it would flex BAD.

[allinearth]

Yep, don't want a truck that is not properly balanced.

[BrandonV]

what are you wanting to haul and what truck are you putting it on?

[allinearth]

Going on a C7500 with a 26k gross. Also 12' cab to axle. I will be hauling mulch, gravel, pallets of stone and mulch, topsoil, equip,etc. Basically anything landscape related. Trying to make this truck a swiss army knife so to speak.

[oakhillslandscaping]

"OK maybe it is 15' but it still leaves me with a 1' gap between cab anf box. Yeah I could put a tool box or something but not sure I want to go that route without exploring some options."


couldnt you use that extra foot to put a auto tarp system? idk if it needs more then a foot but it was just a thought because i am looking at the same setup on a different truck

[allinearth]

A dump bed manuf I have dealt with before on regular dump beds recommended a 18' bed on this truck. They do enough dump bodies on trucks that I cannot discount their advice. So I wonder if the switch n go people are giving sales talk or their system will actually work with this truck. Also since I will be spending that kind of cash I want the biggest capacity I can get (cu yds mulch).

[BrandonV]

you could surely go w/ a hook lift with that truck. if you were to go w/ the SNG i'd think you'd want to spend the $ for the hydraulic version.

[oakhillslandscaping]

this is the tarp system i was talking about which i think would fit inside that one foot of room you are talking about, if plans for my truck fall through i will probably go for something more along these lines

[allinearth]

That's pretty sharp and very similar to what I would be looking at. Have you seen any prices on those tarp set ups?

[oakhillslandscaping]

i had a ball park of 1800 for metal but that one is aluminum so its prolly more, however i still need to buy a truck before i do anything else

[ConstSvcs]

i had a ball park of 1800 for metal but that one is aluminum so its prolly more, however i still need to buy a truck before i do anything else

I think that particular auto tarp system is over $3500 ^

I have a Switch-n-Go for the cost and dump angle factors. Are there hook-lift styles that dump to 50 degrees? It would seem that the hook pivot point would need to be located at the rollers for that to happen.

[Greybeard]

Earthworker - Be sure to add up the weight of the chassis, the lift system and the bodies before you make your move. I was thinking of doing the same, but found out that after it's all built, you won't have much payload capacity before you hit 26,000 lbs. I've got a 14-foot contractor dump body with fold-down sides, which works with fork-lifted pallets, etc. as well as loose stuff like stone and mulch. You might also look into dumping flatbeds with lightweight sides. Good luck.

[Itsgottobegreen]

Don't waste your time with a switch and go on that size of a truck. Go steller hook lift with the dump and hook set up. Yes it will cost more, but it will last a lot longer and have less problems.

[vernon lawn]

So what's everyone's over all opinion of the switch and go's? Happy with them or would you still prefer the standard dump body?

[ConstSvcs]

So what's everyone's over all opinion of the switch and go's? Happy with them or would you still prefer the standard dump body?

I'm very happy with my Switch-n-Go.

I understand what another poster has stated regarding The Stellar Hook-lift. It's a fantastic system on the correct GVW class truck.

My Isuzu FRR with a 19,500 gvw would not have been a good match for any Hook-Lift system that is available in the USA. The weight of the lift hoist would greatly reduce my carrying capacity if I had gone in that direction. Cost of the system was also an issue.

My SNG hoist frame cost $10,300 with the bumper delivered to our shop (we installed it on our chassis. A Stellar "Flex 36" unit would be double the price......installed.

I guess it's all about your needs..........mine are met with with Switch-N-Go :)

[Gravel Rat]

Hooklift trucks have very weak dumping power the way the lift cylinders are.

A switch and go is essentially a dead lift rolloff hoist which means the rail tails don't touch the ground. That gives you better dump angle but it also means your limited to body lengths that don't overhang too much. A true dead lift hoist is harder to get the box lined up on the rails.

Hooklift systems are expensive and are heavy plus you have lot more moving parts to deal with.

[Itsgottobegreen]

There are other brands of mini rollsoff. Stellar also makes a mini system which is much heavier duty. My buddy has 12 rolloff and 2 hooks. He will flat out tell ya, the Switch and go is a complete joke. Because I had thought about getting one. There are plently of mini hooks running around on Chevy 5500 and International 4300. Nobody has any problems with the weight or dumping power. The switch and go is nice for like F-450/550 with the smaller and lower frames. Its just not rated for real heavy duty use.

[P.Services]

There are other brands of mini rollsoff. Stellar also makes a mini system which is much heavier duty. My buddy has 12 rolloff and 2 hooks. He will flat out tell ya, the Switch and go is a complete joke. Because I had thought about getting one. There are plently of mini hooks running around on Chevy 5500 and International 4300. Nobody has any problems with the weight or dumping power. The switch and go is nice for like F-450/550 with the smaller and lower frames. Its just not rated for real heavy duty use.

very well put.

[tthomass]

There are other brands of mini rollsoff. Stellar also makes a mini system which is much heavier duty. My buddy has 12 rolloff and 2 hooks. He will flat out tell ya, the Switch and go is a complete joke. Because I had thought about getting one. There are plently of mini hooks running around on Chevy 5500 and International 4300. Nobody has any problems with the weight or dumping power. The switch and go is nice for like F-450/550 with the smaller and lower frames. Its just not rated for real heavy duty use.

The system is rated for up to a 26,000 GVW. The larger Stellar units are like comparing a 1/2 ton pickup against a 3/4 ton. Though they too can be mounted on a 26,000 GVW truck they are able to handle much more.

I would prefer a hook lift to be perfectly honest but for my use it is not the right tool. I am not a dumpster company switching out bodies 10 times a day. I do it once, maybe twice. Heavy use of the system like that is not what it is ideally designed for being an electric winch.

SNG has recently come out with a hydraulic system that IS meant to handle the constant work load of a container business for example.

A majority of the container businesses out there do not use hook lifts. Look at the 30yd dumpsters........they're pulled up by hydro powered cables.

[Ideal Rolloff & Equip]

Been looking at roll off beds, especially Switch n Go. Like em alright except the longest bed they build is 14'. I'm thinking 16' would be better for me. So does anyone have experience with another Co. that makes a longer set up?

Hi. I build Rolloff trucks & rolloff trailers in Bakersfield CA. I have a gooseneck rolloff trailer right now as of 08-01-08. It has a 16ft rolloff frame, but can also carry & haul 12ft & 14ft x 8ft wide boxes. It has a 13hp Honda electric start engine, cylinder reeving winch system with 5/8" cable, front hydraulic jack, led light package, backup beeper, full fenders, 2 x 10000lb axles with oil bath hubs, 30000lb gooseneck hitch. This trailer has the same width frame rails as the west coast rolloff trucks. East coast trucks use a european size. I have been building in the refuse industry over 32yrs. I build from 12ft bumper pulls to 20ft goosenecks/5th wheels. I do not like the electric winch set ups or the electric over hydraulics for the hoist system. If you pick up 10 boxes a day the batteries will drain & the tow vehicle will not be able to supply a charge to the trailer batteries fast enough. Phone 661 326 0762
Email for pics idealrolloff-equip@hotmail.com

[Ideal Rolloff & Equip]

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130449Hi. I build Rolloff trucks & rolloff trailers in Bakersfield CA. I have a gooseneck rolloff trailer right now as of 08-01-08. It has a 16ft rolloff frame, but can also carry & haul 12ft & 14ft x 8ft wide boxes. It has a 13hp Honda electric start engine, cylinder reeving winch system with 5/8" cable, front hydraulic jack, led light package, backup beeper, full fenders, 2 x 10000lb axles with oil bath hubs, 30000lb gooseneck hitch. This trailer has the same width frame rails as the west coast rolloff trucks. East coast trucks use a european size. I have been building in the refuse industry over 32yrs. I build from 12ft bumper pulls to 20ft goosenecks/5th wheels. I do not like the electric winch set ups or the electric over hydraulics for the hoist system. If you pick up 10 boxes a day the batteries will drain & the tow vehicle will not be able to supply a charge to the trailer batteries fast enough. Phone 661 706 0291
Email for pics idealrolloff-equip@hotmail.com:walking: