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lawnkid
01-13-2002, 03:08 PM
One last question for everybody. About a year ago I bought a used Echo PB-602 backpack blower off of a guy goin out of business. Now I think it's ready to go because it shuts off continuously and everything is just going wrong cause it's like 3 years old. Anyway I have researched several top-of-the-line bp blowers and have narrowed down my choices to another Echo or a Stihl. Echo blowers are more powerful than the Stihl's but I don't really like the things on the Echo like the non see-thru gas tank and most of their models are side mount. I hear that tube mounts are alot better in cases of like clearing leaves out of beds and small ares. I also want a looped tube handle. Waht's your opinion?

strickdad
01-13-2002, 04:03 PM
i would get the 602 fixed there cant be that much wrong with it .

CompleteLawn Service
01-13-2002, 04:08 PM
Hi Lawnkid, If it's a power thing then nothing compares to the echo pb650. It is the most powerful. 650cfm at the end of the tube and 220 mph at the end. The tank is see thru. I own one and so far love it. I also love stihl and had stihl made a blower bigger than the 420 I would have had a hard decision to make.
Depending on your types of uses if it's alot of leaves and wet grass go with the pb650. If it's just blowing off dry grass and flower beds go with the stihl 420. I believe the echo 650 is the most expensive but the extra 50 - 100 bucks would pay you back in time saved with in a few weeks. I've seen pb650's as low as $410 but I paid $499 because I support my dealer here as he rocks when it comes to getting my equipment fixed and returned usually in the same day. Well I hope this helps you. Take it easy! Jeff

odin
01-13-2002, 04:13 PM
I agree with strickdad try first to see what repair costs would be
Also shindawa makes a really good one.
We have a shindawa and a sthil and both are like a bullet.

mdb landscaping
01-13-2002, 04:26 PM
im a big stihl fan. i have a br400, and all ive ever used was stihl, so maybe that makes me a little pigheaded, but you couldnt go wrong getting one. the handle is real comfortable, and the throttle is real easy to use when doing leaves. i hear the new echos are real powerful, but they seemed a lot more heavy to me when i had it on my back.

odin
01-13-2002, 04:29 PM
mbd

Also the echo's ive used it seems to me have a lot of carberator problems at least the pb 400 we had did.

Clint
01-13-2002, 04:46 PM
I recently grabbed a 165BT backpack blower, and have been very satisfied with the power, ease of use, and comfort.. might want to take a look at them

Clint

lawncare
01-13-2002, 05:15 PM
i have a sthil thried a shindawa it was awesome too until a pickup the husky all i used since the latter two are excellent
...........Husky rocks!!! Dude

Ray&Christine
01-13-2002, 06:05 PM
We have an Echo pb6000 it is about 6 years old. the only problem I have had in all that time is I replaced the pull cord once. We also have a newer Echo pb601 it has alot more power than the older model. I believe the newer ones are even stronger than mine. The only problem I have had is the spark plug was fouling but I swithed to Echo Oil and now the plug is good almost all season. I would try and fix the blower you have. If you need a new one you won't go wrong with either Echo or Sthil.

Ray

RB
01-13-2002, 06:58 PM
I've used Echo blowers for about 4 years and have been very happy. Just replaced my old backpack w/PB 650. This blower is very powerful, and it would probably blow a Stihl BR400 across a parking lot.

Stihl is good equipment, but not as good as an Echo PB 650.

Ron

65hoss
01-13-2002, 07:29 PM
I have the Stihl BR400. Its been bullit proof. Its been extremely reliable. For grass needs it can't be beat. Very fuel efficient also.

I bought a Redmax EB7000 for leaf season this year. Its awesome, but sucks some major gas. I will only use this for leaf season. Just to much fuel for grass season.

The statement about the echo pb650 is BS. They may advertise it as the "best", but its not. I demo'd it and the redmax eb7000 at the same time. Side by side comparisions showed the redmax as more powerful. Not to mention much much much more comfortable. I wasn't the only one that noticed the difference. The guys at the small engine shop were there watching the demo. They sell both units and were surprised at the difference, after all the claims echo made.

ohiolawnguy
01-13-2002, 07:56 PM
the echo pb-60 is a good blower in my opinion. you say it continuosly shuts off. does it do so after running for about ten minutes? if it dies out after about ten minutes on a cold start, either A:ignition pack is bad, or B; carburetor problems.


as much as i like the echo 60, and 61 we recently got a red max and WOAAAHHH!!!. I must say that red max is giving echo a run for their money, and red max is supposedy coming out with an 85cc backpack blower later this year. i dont know how true it is, another landscaper told me about it.

KirbysLawn
01-13-2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by CompleteLawn Service
then nothing compares to the echo pb650. It is the most powerful.

Have you tried the Red Max or Shindiawa?

lawnkid
01-13-2002, 08:16 PM
The only thing that I thought was pretty cool about Echo blowers are that they have a 2-year commercial warranty. I've tried an Echo and noticed that they are pretty heavy and some of the clean-ups I do are yards that are almost two acres but I plan to buy a walk behind Little wonder blower. Another thing about the Echo is that my local dealer which is also my Scag dealer is having a spring clearance with everything up to 60% off. Both blowers like you guys say are very good. What is the sound control of the Stihl because it doesn't say in the brochure. Thank You everyone! Keep the replies coming.:D

johnnywalker
01-13-2002, 09:12 PM
Brand CFM (At Pipe) Air Speed (MPH)
Stihl BR400/420 476 185
ReMax EB7000 585 204
Shindaiwa EB630 613 201
Echo PB603 535 190
Echo PB650 650 210

Shady Brook
01-13-2002, 09:24 PM
I have had BR 400's, and recently a Echo 602. There are things I like about the Stihl, like the light weight, and the throtle on the tube. As far as productivity I prefer the Echo. It saves time, and seems more durable. My stuff takes some banging around, and with the cage the Echo is best. The Stihl seems have more stuff fall apart. The choke button on the BR is a joke. Keep a few in the truck, cuz you will need em. The 650 is a beast, just looks more delicate then the 602. I would go Echo. Also heard they are easier to work on from the local mechanics, and the same guys said the Echo's will outlast the Stihl. See if you can fix your blower as well.

Jay

keifer
01-13-2002, 09:26 PM
Personally I have a br 400 and love it. but I was at costco the other day and they had a solo backpac for 318 dollars dont know if they are any count but was a good price?

kerr lawn
01-13-2002, 10:04 PM
ok i registered just so i could write this
shindaiwa will blow any blower right out of the water
Eb630 it will blow a brick, i have tried it against an old echo that i gave away and the poulan pro. They both lost.
as they say first to start and the last to quit.
i have shindaiwa 3 t 260 weed eaters, 1 edger, 3 eb630, and 1 hedge clipper.
the guy that was talking about buying a little wonder look at a giant vac, as my dealer says they are built like a brick **** house and they are.

lawnmark
01-13-2002, 10:51 PM
lawnkidd, stihl 320 is great, had 6 in last 10 years and they don't quit. Little brother has shindaiwa's said that they could blow a brick. Next blowers will be shindaiwa, and only because dealer sells both. Would not go to two different dealers just to buy them.

cajuncutter
01-14-2002, 11:52 AM
REDMAX!!!! The only way to go. I went down to LESCO a couple of weeks ago to demo the new Kaw. I have to admit it is strong but the numbers that they claim just don't match up. Red Max still has the new Kaw licked. If you got then side by side you can hear, feel and see the difference. If you don't get your ECHO fixed you can pick up a Redmax for $475 off the internet and that is delivered to your front door.

WREBELMACHINE
01-14-2002, 12:01 PM
I thought the REDMAX was rated at 730cfm!
I have an old eb6200 and love it, I bought this fall two new KAWASAKI 60cc units and they work good.

MONTE
01-14-2002, 03:44 PM
redmax eb6200 and eb7000 are rated at 730cfm. The shindaiwa 630 is built by redmax.

HBFOXJr
01-14-2002, 03:52 PM
I bought a Stihl BG_85 handheld in the spring for blowing fert off pavement. Changed our minds about back packs. Give me a wheel blower or a GOOD handheld.

KirbysLawn
01-14-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by johnnywalker
Brand CFM (At Pipe) Air Speed (MPH)
Stihl BR400/420 476 185
ReMax EB7000 585 204
Shindaiwa EB630 613 201
Echo PB603 535 190
Echo PB650 650 210

Time to update your numbers.

dogdad4
01-14-2002, 04:46 PM
Where can you buy a redmax 7000 on the internet for 475 delivered to my front door? thanks dogdad in Metairie ,La

cajuncutter
01-14-2002, 05:40 PM
They have been talked about here before. I am not promoting business for them by no means and i am not associated with them, I hope this follows forum rules. Here it is Redmax EB7000 for $475 to your door: http://alamia.com/

TCO
01-14-2002, 08:15 PM
I use a Redmax. has lots of power, I can blow small animals away. and is easy on the back.
I'd buy another one if I had to replace it.

cajuncutter
01-14-2002, 08:19 PM
Speaking of blowing animals away. I have to tie my dogs down when I blow them off. When I wash them I like to blow dry them. I do keep it away from their ears and they do enjoy it. They must pretend they are riding in my car with their heads hanging out the window. They just si there with their tounges hanging out with a dumb look on their faces.:D :blob3:

rodfather
01-15-2002, 12:43 PM
I bought one of those new Echo PB650's this year. I think it blows all the other backpacks away.

If you want even greater power from it, find one of the old curved tubes they used to use on the older models and attach it with a hose clamp. It's awesome for blowing out beds and around shrubs.

johnnywalker
01-15-2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by KirbysLawn


Time to update your numbers.

Brand--- CFM (At Pipe)----Air Speed (MPH)

ShindaiwaEB630 613 201
Red MaxEB7000 730 203
Echo PB650 650 210


So Red Max went to 730CFM-203MPH while Shindaiwa stayed the same?
Sounds like Red Max is trying to "tweak" their #'s to compete with the Echo.
Ask your dealer for a tennis ball test (styraight-up) if he sells both.

AztlanLC
01-15-2002, 11:29 PM
I can't say anything about echo since I don't own one but I've been using Stihl for almos 8 years until stared coming down to this site and a lot of people were talking about Red Max EB7000 and I bought one, I'm pretty happy with it not going back to stihl, and all thanks to the people that post here.

Red max uses more gas than stihl, but since I've keep record of all my customer for the past years, it took me between 20% and sometimes as much as 40% less time than before, but I did charge'em the same hours as last year.

trimmer
01-15-2002, 11:55 PM
I have an ehco pb-603 and love it. I like it better than the pb-650 because it has the tube mount throttle and the flex tube dosen't feel as stiff. I have used the br400 and the tube seems like it sticks out to far from your body on the side. Just my opion though. Highly recommend the pb-603.

Sammy
01-16-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by lawncare
i have a sthil thried a shindawa it was awesome too until a pickup the husky all i used since the latter two are excellent
...........Husky rocks!!! Dude


Could someone translate this .....Thanks. :D

lawnman_scott
01-16-2002, 12:31 AM
I have only owned stihl, but have tried echo also. i would go with stihl br420. I just bought a new one, very nciie and powerful. My stihl are 5 and 6 years old, and both still run great. I would also get the other one fixed, at that age it still should have a long way to go. Mine are older than that, and dont get babied by any means.

owen bryant
01-16-2002, 09:26 AM
I just purchased a Stihl br420 and love it, some people say they are hard to start I dont feel that way, three pulls and you are working, it has lots of power and is light weight. I think it's the best for the money.

KirbysLawn
01-16-2002, 03:41 PM
Sorry, I have not found the need to blow tennis balls yet.

Ricky
01-16-2002, 06:36 PM
I have a PB 300 that is 17 yrs old and still runs. It is getting a little tired and was not used commercially for about 5 of those years. It will probably get a new one this year. :)

65hoss
01-16-2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Ricky
I have a PB 300 that is 17 yrs old and still runs. It is getting a little tired and was not used commercially for about 5 of those years. It will probably get a new one this year. :)


Now that is really getting your $$$ worth.:)