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Waterit
07-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Just got in, have to catch up on phone/paperwork, but will be posting pics from the augered well installation we did today.

May use one of the online photo-hosting sites, 'cuz I took a LOT of pics! Will post link if it goes that route.

Wet_Boots
07-16-2008, 06:15 PM
Cool, but avoid the photo album sites.

Waterit
07-17-2008, 02:51 AM
OK, here goes:

We arrive, open gate and ta-da - trash city. Take trencher and move mess to side.

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We pick the spot for the well - 75 ft. min from septic tank/field lines or it's a $5K fine!
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Keith and Aaron drive up in drill rig
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Aaron unloads mud pan
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Set up and ready to drill
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Waterit
07-17-2008, 02:57 AM
Ready to drill, from the control end of rig
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Drill rods (each 5' long)
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The business end of the auger - 3" drill bit
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Drilling mud
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And more tomorrow once I've had time to convert to 800x600!

Waterit
07-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Driiling started, Aaron adds mud
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Drilling continues
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Aaron emptying pan
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Keith at the controls
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Waterit
07-17-2008, 09:18 AM
Keith checks the tailings
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Drilling done, pulling the rods
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2" casing going down
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Casing in, setting and backfilling
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Is it an artesian? No, backfilling pushes water up through casing
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DUSTYCEDAR
07-17-2008, 09:26 AM
sweet pics come to pa and make me one

KrayzKajun
07-17-2008, 10:07 AM
looks like fun!!!

Dirty Water
07-17-2008, 12:11 PM
Thats not a well, thats a straw in the ground.

All of the wells here look like this:

http://www.make-my-own-house.com/images/wellcasing.jpg

Wet_Boots
07-17-2008, 12:25 PM
Like the sprinklers care one way or the other.

AmEdge
07-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Nice rig!

How far down didja go, and how do you know when you've gone deep enough?

Waterit
07-17-2008, 06:20 PM
Jet assembly
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Jet assembly in casing
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Add 1-1/4" sch. 40 drop pipe with turned couplings as jet goes down
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Once at desired depth, add casing adapter
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Then bolt pump to adapter
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Waterit
07-17-2008, 06:22 PM
[QUOTE=Dirty Water;2422411]Thats not a well, thats a straw in the ground.
All of the wells here look like this:/QUOTE]

That's a 4" casing with a submersible pump. Different animal entirely. This one was a 2" casing with a jet pump.

Our subs look about the same, except we have to make provision for above-grade backflow prevention on them, and can't use that funky well-seal.

CAPT Stream Rotar
07-17-2008, 07:28 PM
Awsome pics dude..

I always enjoyed being apart of those types of projects..

what was the static/gpm

Waterit
07-17-2008, 09:41 PM
So you say want some more? Well, here's some more:

Keith wires up while Aaron pipes outlet
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Priming the pump
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Ready to fire off
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Keith wanted to use this pump, wiser heads prevailed
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Finish up running new power and pipe from old pump location to new and tidying up
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Unfortunately, this well wasn't worth a cr@p - got about 12 GPM open discharge. Keith to return Monday and pull drop pipe up some, hope it goes. If not, the next series of pics will be How To Abandon A Well And Start Over.

Dirty Water
07-17-2008, 11:13 PM
So, they don't have a portable pump just to check well capacity before all the work of installing yours?

FIMCO-MEISTER
07-17-2008, 11:53 PM
Those may be the greatest pics ever posted on LS. How much for the t-shirts and caps? Can I buy those two guys a pizza?

FIMCO-MEISTER
07-17-2008, 11:54 PM
So, they don't have a portable pump just to check well capacity before all the work of installing yours?

Get a life........

Waterit
07-18-2008, 12:09 AM
So, they don't have a portable pump just to check well capacity before all the work of installing yours?

They've got a gas-fired centrifugal and an old used submersible for 4" wells. Nothing for a jet pump well. I'll have to ask why not, maybe because of all the cr@p you have to go through to install 'em.

Waterit
07-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Those may be the greatest pics ever posted on LS. How much for the t-shirts and caps? Can I buy those two guys a pizza?

I bought 'em BBQ for lunch, in exchange for them letting me photo and because, well, I'm just such a nice guy.

They won't give me a shirt. Maybe if you send them some brisket.

Did you really like the pics, or are you crunching my berries again?

Waterit
07-18-2008, 12:18 AM
Awsome pics dude..

I always enjoyed being apart of those types of projects..

what was the static/gpm

See note on last set of pics - well sucked. Driller may have to do-over, won't know til Monday next.

FIMCO-MEISTER
07-18-2008, 12:19 AM
I bought 'em BBQ for lunch, in exchange for them letting me photo and because, well, I'm just such a nice guy.

They won't give me a shirt. Maybe if you send them some brisket.

Did you really like the pics, or are you crunching my berries again?

Seriously those were great pics. I've never seen anything like that.

Waterit
07-18-2008, 12:20 AM
Nice rig!

How far down didja go, and how do you know when you've gone deep enough?

Well depth is 100 ft., Keith has been drilling so long he can tell by the tailings (you want large-grain coarse sand, as white as possible for clearest water).

Wet_Boots
07-18-2008, 12:29 AM
What horsepower water pump is on the truck? How many HP is turning the drill pipe?

Waterit
07-18-2008, 12:33 AM
What horsepower water pump is on the truck? How many HP is turning the drill pipe?

Pump is run off truck engine, as is hydraulic pump turning drill head. I'll get more details for ya Monday.

Oh yeah, here's a pic of the auger head they use for 4" casing
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AmEdge
07-18-2008, 08:33 AM
Well depth is 100 ft., Keith has been drilling so long he can tell by the tailings (you want large-grain coarse sand, as white as possible for clearest water).

Wow, okay. Most wells around here are shallow-well....less than 20' usually closer to 10-15'.

I'm wanting to drill a second well in my yard cuz the one that was here when I bought the house only has 1" pipe coming from the ground.

I thought those were your guys, cool that they let you take pics of them working. Most well guys around here act all secretive. :laugh:

Waterit
07-18-2008, 09:40 AM
Wow, okay. Most wells around here are shallow-well....less than 20' usually closer to 10-15'.

I'm wanting to drill a second well in my yard cuz the one that was here when I bought the house only has 1" pipe coming from the ground.

I thought those were your guys, cool that they let you take pics of them working. Most well guys around here act all secretive. :laugh:

Even our shallow wells are 40' or better. Anything shallower and you're sucking air, and like I tell my customers, if you're sucking air, you're not sucking water.

Known Keith for 15 years or so, been using his company about the same. Bought them lunch in exchange for pics.

Wet_Boots
07-18-2008, 09:46 AM
I have several customers with shallow water tables, but the soils aren't what you want to have for a well point.

Are those points grouted, once the well is established?

Waterit
07-18-2008, 10:22 AM
I have several customers with shallow water tables, but the soils aren't what you want to have for a well point.

Are those points grouted, once the well is established?

In some cases, yes. All 4" wells have to be grouted, Water Management District requires it. Some 2" are grouted depending on the circumstances and location, it's the driller's call whether to grout or not. This one will wind up grouted because of the chalky substrata it's in.

Our water table is actually very shallow, in some places only a couple of feet deep, but we have to get deeper to get enough water for pumps to work properly. We've been in a drought cycle for about 10 years, despite the hurricanes and tropical storms. Many of our older shallow wells (20-25') are no longer working. Water quality has changed, too: less water = higher mineral content. Staining and odor are the norm, not the exception any more, even on older wells and on deep ones. Lots of Rid-O-Rust type treatment tanks going in, makes for a nice upsell.

h20 guy
07-18-2008, 03:04 PM
Have 4 wells to JET down next week, all shallow wells about 20' to 25'. I'll take pictures to show how we do it up here. As long as it's O.K. with Grumpy Mike Leary to talk about wells on this forum!!

h20 guy
07-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Also have a older gentleman that "Witches" them first for me, and he is GOOD!
Seems like VOODOO, but he can spot them!

Mike Leary
07-18-2008, 04:16 PM
As long as it's O.K. with Grumpy Mike Leary to talk about wells on this forum!!

Grumpy? Me that gets all the service calls from hell & can't find a valve,
grumpy?:wall

I had a client that had all the well guys tell him he'd have to go 500'; he heard
about a old codger who was a witcher, found water at 80', artesian at that!

Waterit
07-18-2008, 07:40 PM
Grumpy Mike Leary

He's not grumpy, just happiness-challenged:)

CAPT Stream Rotar
07-18-2008, 07:43 PM
mike needs to find this valve asap...

Mike Leary
07-18-2008, 09:55 PM
mike needs to find this valve asap...

Hope I don't flip.

Waterit
07-19-2008, 12:11 PM
Forgot to post one - saw this next door and had to get a pic.
Installer must have gone to the Rube Goldberg School of Piping:laugh:

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Wet_Boots
07-19-2008, 12:13 PM
But is it a Fimco?

Dirty Water
07-19-2008, 12:47 PM
I'm going to guess its a K-RAIN indexing valve.

Waterit
07-19-2008, 02:33 PM
It is indeed a K-Rain. Pass GO! and collect 200 WM solenoids:laugh:

Wet_Boots
07-28-2008, 02:13 PM
So, what was the outcome here? Redrill?

Waterit
07-28-2008, 05:07 PM
So, what was the outcome here? Redrill?

Oops, sorry, forgot to revisit.

Pulled drop-pipe up about 10 feet, all was good. Largest zone on system (not our install) is 4 PGP's, looks great as do the rest of the zones. Owner not willing to pay for audit or any upgrades, so I left well-enough alone other than replacing the broken FIMCO(!!) six-bottom indexing valve with a K-Rain.

For you indexer-challenged types, it can be tricky lining up (6) vertical 1-1/4 pipes to hit bottom of indexer in one gluing.:weightlifter:

Wet_Boots
07-28-2008, 05:32 PM
Do the Fimco and K-Rain valves match up on the bottom?

Waterit
07-28-2008, 05:38 PM
Do the Fimco and K-Rain valves match up on the bottom?

Of course not, that'd be too easy. Fimco slightly tighter spaced than K-Rain. You have to dig up the downpipes down to the bottom 90's to get some lateral movement in the piping or it looks all caddy-whompus when you glue it all back. I've always been real particular that all above-ground piping, and we have lots of it, be plumb and level.

koster_irrigation
07-28-2008, 06:40 PM
Is this a toro custom II controller??? in far right pictured?


http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=114834&d=1216480110

Mike Leary
07-28-2008, 06:57 PM
Is this a toro custom II controller??? in far right pictured?

Sure looks like one, can't tell if it's a metal cabinet....Irritrol clone via Toro, good clock.
What a freakin' mess.

Waterit
07-28-2008, 09:09 PM
Is this a toro custom II controller??? in far right pictured?

Sure looks like one, can't tell if it's a metal cabinet....Irritrol clone via Toro, good clock.
What a freakin' mess.

Nope, that is a K-Rain 2120 pump-start controller.

And yes, that is quite a mess. Totally typical of what happens when an HO around here "knows how to do sprinklers".