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Ramairfreak98ss
07-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Havnt gotten any quotes yet. I'm looking at putting it on a 200" wb f-550. I like the Rugby uni-body ones, the one without all the stakes, mainly to use for hauling mulch, dirt, sand and crushed stone. I've heard guys spending 6k, 8k, 10k... I saw at a local ford dealer they had some body similar for 11k! yikes.

Im only assuming, since you can buy 14' trailers in the 12-14k gvw range for 7-8k easily, take all of that minus the wheels/tires/axles and thats basically what you buy for a dump body on a truck right?

The 06-08 F550s say they have a 7k front axle, and 13k rear axle, or 13,500. Either way, you have a capacity of about 20k in weight. Why are the F550s rated at 17,900?

And if the back axle can support 13k, how do guys haul 15 yards of mulch heaping up over a 12' landscape body, assuming the body is 2k in weight and the back of the truck is almost 2k in a crew cab. Assuming just 900lbs per yard, your at 13,500lbs for the mulch only, plus any cargo, fuel, crew, trailers tongue weight, the body is 2k and the truck without the body probably has 2k on the rear axle alone, thats over 5000lbs over what the back axle is rated at?

I see companies do this all the time though. The one local company had their crews load 04-06 Ford F550s heaping over with no room left, and drive them around to spread mulch, the back was squatting like my 91 F150 with 2400lbs in it lol.

evont22
07-16-2008, 07:57 PM
I had a 12' Crysteel landscape dump installed in January and it was around $10,000 after taxes and all. Its an awesome body- door on passenger side, steps, spreader/fold down tailgate and aluminum ramp built into the body. Around here, the western understructure is also nice.

cat320
07-16-2008, 09:19 PM
http://www.stonehamtruckequipment.com/omaha_standard_landscaper_body.htm

J&R Landscaping
07-16-2008, 09:45 PM
If your getting quotes, the upfit company on route 130 south is kinda expensive. Reading body company out in PA is a bit cheaper for most of the bodies. I was pricing them earliere this season. Also, t seemed like the place on 130 had to order just about everything as where the other place had a good selection in stock!

I have also seen some of the new f550's with a 17,900 gvw. I've mainly seen them with utility bodies though, most of the 550's for dump or towing applications are a 19000 gvw.

P.Services
07-16-2008, 11:14 PM
ram air i agree with you that rugby body is the nicest one built!!

Ramairfreak98ss
07-18-2008, 07:46 PM
ram air i agree with you that rugby body is the nicest one built!!

:) Do you have one by that comment? If so i want some pictures. What do you like about it and is there any dislikes from guys on here? Ive heard of the crysteel ones too but havnt seen them enough to know which ones they are. Ill check into the gvws of the new f550s.

Ramairfreak98ss
07-18-2008, 07:49 PM
It is a 19,500 gvw

http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/medium-duty-trucks/find/listing/2008-FORD-F550-92642894

Has anyone with an 08 removed the DPF and runs a tuner of some sort in a commercially registered ford superduty truck yet? I know a lot of the guys on powerstroke.org have tunes with the dpf gone and theyre getting great milage with them, just wondered if you can still pull that off with commercial DOT inspections.

I know my 06 diesel passed with no cat and a silverline 4" exhaust fine, but dont know if they check for all the stuff on the 08s? If i "cant" take it off, and would be stick with sub 10mpg milage forever.. i wont even bother looking at new, ill wait and find a 05-07

Boycea
07-18-2008, 11:53 PM
http://www.stonehamtruckequipment.com/omaha_standard_landscaper_body.htm

Thats where I purchased my truck and thats the exact body that I have...great people to deal with

cat320
07-19-2008, 02:41 PM
I have done alot of work for them they have a nice new place that they just do the body/plow installs now,and a very large chassis inventory where they do the body installs. good people.

PerfectEarth
07-19-2008, 03:12 PM
My '04 F-550 has a 19,000# GVWR. I'm not sure that it's 15 yards in the back of those bodies!! That's a lot of mulch! I have a Crysteel dump with board sides (not a whole lot of room but enough) and I can only squeeze 7-8 yards in there. I'm a hair underweight there. I dunno, maybe it is 15 yards.... either way, YES- they are overloaded. But I'm sure the truck can handle more than the manufacturers rating.

Gravel Rat
07-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Keep in mind your looking at a crewcab truck you get a tall load on the truck like a dump box with high sides the truck is going to handle like crap. The truck would be okay if it was a regular cab with a 12 foot box.

As for the rear axle carrying the load I don't think that will be a problem with a crew cab truck you will never get any weight on the front axle. You will always be rear axle heavy.

You look at the Dana axles under these trucks they are a little overkill especially the older F-550s with the S135 that axle is pretty much a 5 ton axle with 19.5 wheels.

You have a landscape box its not really meant for gravel. So what about a heavier steel flatdeck not one of those cheap stamped steel crap. Then you can put sides on it for hauling mulch.

The one big problem with the F-450s and F-550s is brakes they can haul more than they can stop. A F-550 with a 19,000lb gvw is very maxed out on braking power. My 03 F-450 loaded up to only 15,000lbs is a little weak on the brakes its not as bad as my previous " FSuperduty" trucks.

I don't know what the 08 trucks run for brake size but it can't be much different than the 99 to 04 model trucks.

punt66
07-19-2008, 03:59 PM
My '04 F-550 has a 19,000# GVWR. I'm not sure that it's 15 yards in the back of those bodies!! That's a lot of mulch! I have a Crysteel dump with board sides (not a whole lot of room but enough) and I can only squeeze 7-8 yards in there. I'm a hair underweight there. I dunno, maybe it is 15 yards.... either way, YES- they are overloaded. But I'm sure the truck can handle more than the manufacturers rating.

16 yards is a tri-axle load. Cant imagine putting that in a pickup. I put 5 yards in my insert with the leaf box and i am way over weight! 5yds is about 2.2Ton

P.Services
07-19-2008, 06:01 PM
16 yards is a tri-axle load. Cant imagine putting that in a pickup. I put 5 yards in my insert with the leaf box and i am way over weight! 5yds is about 2.2Ton

12x6x6= 432 cubic feet and that divided by 27 is 16 yards. so yes it will fit. i bet you could pack in even more.

take a look at this truck, ive been wishing it was mine for a few weeks now.
http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/medium-duty-trucks/find/listing/2007-CHEVROLET-C5500-92595682

punt66
07-19-2008, 06:39 PM
12x6x6= 432 cubic feet and that divided by 27 is 16 yards. so yes it will fit. i bet you could pack in even more.

take a look at this truck, ive been wishing it was mine for a few weeks now.
http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/medium-duty-trucks/find/listing/2007-CHEVROLET-C5500-92595682


even if you can fit it in its still a 6.6 ton load.

stuvecorp
07-19-2008, 09:08 PM
Have set up trucks with Bibeau and Brandon boxes, they have been great for me. I got a quote back early in the spring for a 11' Bibeau contractor box (also had pto) with installation for $10,655. Don't know what the steel price has done lately, probably has gone up.:rolleyes:

I thought mulch was more like 600 pounds per yard?

Gravel Rat
07-20-2008, 12:27 AM
I was quoted 8 grand for a 11 foot fold down size mason dump so I can see a 11 foot landscaper box for 10.

The price of steel has gone up considerably.

Ramairfreak98ss
07-20-2008, 06:50 PM
12x6x6= 432 cubic feet and that divided by 27 is 16 yards. so yes it will fit. i bet you could pack in even more.

take a look at this truck, ive been wishing it was mine for a few weeks now.
http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/medium-duty-trucks/find/listing/2007-CHEVROLET-C5500-92595682


punt66... yeah at ~13,000 lbs of mulch back there, thats why i was asking about the weight, since the rear axles are only 13,500~ axles, plus the body/truck and mulch weight, has to be over 15k+ Yet i carry around WAY more than my old 91 F150 half ton is supposed to and have loaded up my F350 with 4-5000lbs in the bed PLUS the enclosed or dump trailer weights on the tongue of another thousand or so.

I KNOW other companies are putting 15+ yards in the 12' landscape bodies, ive seen it, but didnt believe it at first either. My 14' x7' dump trailer cant hold that much and its 2' longer, but with only ~30" sides, it just starts falling out the sides and the back doors which are only maybe 24" tall.

Ive had mulch delivered with old Ford Super duty series, the 90s trucks and had 15 yards in them, my eyes were like :eek: But the companies do it all the time. Ive seen tons of 00+ F550s with 12' bodies on crew cabs driving mulch around WAY heaping up over the top of the 4' sides of its body, i mean, whatever a big skid steer can dump in, they did it. Im more just wondering how hard that is on the truck or if they can normally take that kind of abuse. I know 10-12 yards in our 4200lb dump trailer is a lot of weight, i cant imagine it "BEING" ON the truck and not just towing it.

punt66
07-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Have set up trucks with Bibeau and Brandon boxes, they have been great for me. I got a quote back early in the spring for a 11' Bibeau contractor box (also had pto) with installation for $10,655. Don't know what the steel price has done lately, probably has gone up.:rolleyes:

I thought mulch was more like 600 pounds per yard?

mulch around here weighs in at 800lb per yard and if its a little wet its obviously more. One of my suppliers scales everything, thats how i know.

punt66
07-20-2008, 08:34 PM
punt66... yeah at ~13,000 lbs of mulch back there, thats why i was asking about the weight, since the rear axles are only 13,500~ axles, plus the body/truck and mulch weight, has to be over 15k+ Yet i carry around WAY more than my old 91 F150 half ton is supposed to and have loaded up my F350 with 4-5000lbs in the bed PLUS the enclosed or dump trailer weights on the tongue of another thousand or so.

I KNOW other companies are putting 15+ yards in the 12' landscape bodies, ive seen it, but didnt believe it at first either. My 14' x7' dump trailer cant hold that much and its 2' longer, but with only ~30" sides, it just starts falling out the sides and the back doors which are only maybe 24" tall.

Ive had mulch delivered with old Ford Super duty series, the 90s trucks and had 15 yards in them, my eyes were like :eek: But the companies do it all the time. Ive seen tons of 00+ F550s with 12' bodies on crew cabs driving mulch around WAY heaping up over the top of the 4' sides of its body, i mean, whatever a big skid steer can dump in, they did it. Im more just wondering how hard that is on the truck or if they can normally take that kind of abuse. I know 10-12 yards in our 4200lb dump trailer is a lot of weight, i cant imagine it "BEING" ON the truck and not just towing it.

Most of my mulch jobs are 10 yards or less. If i have to make 2 trips so be it. I personally would never haul a load that size in a 350, 450. Maybe a 550. The load also has a high center of gravity because of the volume it takes to get the weight. So it makes the truck top heavy. I personally like my 5 yard system with the insert and box, i can dig the mulch right out of the bed with a tractor or fork it into wheel barrows without having to bend down. Just my .02

topsites
07-21-2008, 02:52 AM
Yes I KNEW there was a REASON why I never did get one of those beds put on :p

Because for considerably less money I would highly consider a full aluminum trailer.
Cheap they're not, but an open 6x12 landscaping trailer is about 3g and weighs 6-7-800 pounds less than a steel one.
This can and will make a difference on truck mpg, plus it's easier to transfer a trailer to a new truck when such time comes.

supercuts
07-21-2008, 05:53 PM
my f550 has the 12 rugy landscape dump (solid sides). it has the 4' side door and rear tailgate and upper barn doors. i love the entire setup. THERE ARE FLAWS IN IT THOUGH!! make sure you get a reciever tube on the rear not a pintle.....my enclosed trailer with extended tounge didnt clear the body and would hit at around a 60 degree turn. i put a bolt on reciever off the back and it is much better BUT WILL STILL HIT if turned too tight. if you not towing daily with it its a dream come true. i had 5 yards of dripping wet topsoil in it and it was fine. i think the website said its a 10 yard dump, tri axle's are 18 so i cant see it being 16 like said.

if you have any questions you can pm me, i love my setup. im not much these days but ill check it eventually.

if you really want to cry, i only paid $10,500 for mine with a bad tranny, 56k on a 7.3 powerstroke.

mike lane lawn care
07-21-2008, 09:38 PM
the 03 F-350 dually has a 10' Rugby dump body on it and it is realy solid.

PerfectEarth
07-21-2008, 09:46 PM
the 03 F-350 dually has a 10' Rugby dump body on it and it is realy solid.

Yea, but with the weight of the truck and body, you can hardly put a couple yards of soil in a 1 ton dump before you're maxed out...no payload in those trucks!

mike lane lawn care
07-22-2008, 07:52 AM
Yea, but with the weight of the truck and body, you can hardly put a couple yards of soil in a 1 ton dump before you're maxed out...no payload in those trucks!

good thing it's a farm truck and never gets taken off the property. lol the thing is a 2003 with less than 1700 miles, and that's not a typo, one thousand seven hundred. best part is, it's loaded to the gills with every option.

punt66
07-22-2008, 08:54 AM
good thing it's a farm truck and never gets taken off the property. lol the thing is a 2003 with less than 1700 miles, and that's not a typo, one thousand seven hundred. best part is, it's loaded to the gills with every option.

A farm truck loaded to the gills? Must be a subsidized farm?