View Full Version : A day with Clapper&Company

Sydenstricker Landscaping
07-19-2008, 07:13 PM
Well I spent all of my Monday with Ronnie. We screwed around a good bit, did a little work and tried to roll the bobcat, LOL. I will let the pics speak for themselves. There are alot

07-19-2008, 07:16 PM
looks like a set of forks would of helped, and a new set of boots!

Sydenstricker Landscaping
07-19-2008, 07:17 PM
Some more pics

Sydenstricker Landscaping
07-19-2008, 07:21 PM
Even more pics!!!

Sydenstricker Landscaping
07-19-2008, 07:25 PM
I think this is all, lol

07-19-2008, 07:52 PM
Kool Pics!

07-19-2008, 09:11 PM
Are the walls for decoration...? They won't hold anything, ESPECIALLY on that hill, without burying a course.

RedMax Man
07-19-2008, 09:15 PM
Whoa those walls and steps don't look to promising. Looks like its all sitting on dirt.

Travis E
07-19-2008, 10:11 PM
are both bobcats rons?

Green Team Landscaping
07-19-2008, 10:18 PM
Nice wall. Those granite slabs are so hard to move. I had to move one with a wheel barrow when i did a retaining wall for my mom. What a pain that slab was.

07-20-2008, 01:15 AM
Nice pics and Bobcats

07-20-2008, 12:43 PM
Thanks for posting Tom!

Lets see If I can recap every thing!

Yea I did get a new pair of boots LOL, That is a Pair of redwings after 18mos of service!!!
I do need a Set of Forks for the Mini Skid.

The Wall on the hill, is 100% for looks and will not be holding any thing back. The Step units are 400lbs each, and are sitting on a good base of 304's, not shown in any of the pics are that the first step in each run is sitting on a Wall unit, that is completely in the ground then the step unit locks in to it.

The photos are good, but you can get the full feel for every thing with them, but All the walls are on a good base, and there are stone underground.

Hope this helps, and I'll try to get some more photos for you soon

wurkn with amish
07-20-2008, 02:50 PM
the walls are swaybacked, and I give them 1 1/2yrs before they fall down the hill.
use a level, the one pic where there are only 3-4 steps the wall by the top step looks like you could ramp to the moon.

07-20-2008, 03:21 PM
I think you need to go back to the basics, from the looks of the pics neither the steps or the wall look very good. I would be ashamed to bill a customer for that kind of work, remember your reputation is on the line.

07-21-2008, 09:54 AM
nice pics i am a mountian dew guy myself to what kind of mowers do you run

07-21-2008, 10:42 AM
Those walls look questionable but the camera might not be doing it justice.

07-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Those walls look questionable but the camera might not be doing it justice.
Tom & I were talking about that last night, The Photos dont do much justice..

07-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Tom & I were talking about that last night, The Photos dont do much justice..

Hopefully that's the case.

07-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I can't see a camera making the steps or the wall out of level in this pic.

07-21-2008, 01:20 PM
That top wall on the right is gone first rain.

Sydenstricker Landscaping
07-21-2008, 11:13 PM
Well to back up Ron....... First my picture taking skills suck. You guys could take a level to them and the bubble would be dead center guaranteed. I checked too. Second, the steps have been there for a few weeks, and were installed in the rain. Been there thru several heavy rains and have not moved an inch. Ron knows what he is doing and I will back that. If yall could only be there to see how steep that hill really is, you'd change your tone. No name calling, just stating the facts.

07-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Thanks Tom,

Tom & I have been around this stuff for a long time, and have built alot of stuff, and we have never had a problem or have had to redo any of our work.

For the record, 2nd wall 1/2 way up the hill, was the home owners idea, and I told him more then once that there was no good way to build that wall, but I do have a sign work order, where he did add that wall, and Sign off on the fact that there was not Warranty on that wall.

07-21-2008, 11:45 PM
Ron come on wake up this is crazy you need to get a job with a company that knows what they are doing. The wall is wavy the wall hangs above grade you and sydenstricker obviously are inexperienced on hardscapes. This thing is all going to fall and lean. Do you own a level? Do you own a lazer or a plate compactor. Maybe you should stick with mowing and other stuff you feel confidant in. Maybe the reason no one calls you back to fix your screw ups is due to the fact they saw the work the first time and are afraid to see what will happen to their on a call back. Give me the customers name so I know when they call me in to fix it the right way in a month.:laugh::laugh:

Travis E
07-21-2008, 11:49 PM
Talks cheap Jeff, now just let Ron post new pictures when he gets back to the job before this gets clossed!

07-22-2008, 12:00 AM
Wheres the back fill and drain tile below the lower walls?
Why is there 2 steps on the bottom the rise is definantly not to code?
Nice company shirts but no ones wearing them on site.
Why is there so many scraps laying around clean the jobsite daily

07-22-2008, 12:01 AM
You can comment when when you post some pics of your work

Travis E
07-22-2008, 12:04 AM
You can comment when when you post some pics of your work

There are many pictures of my work floating around here, i've seen some other work from Ron and its all been good.

07-22-2008, 12:09 AM
That is the kind of finished product and lack of professionalism that gives landscape companies a bad name. That's all i'm going to say, the pictures say the rest.

Turf Commando
07-22-2008, 12:58 AM
I'm by far a landscape designer, but the foolish man builds his house upon the sand, and the walls came tumbling down...
Anyone can rent (Bobcat) and wear logo shirts and call themselves professionals. However, you need to refrain from doing any future jobs beyond your skill level ..
When all your designs crumble after the years your name will be mud...

Michael J. Donovan
07-22-2008, 09:55 AM
ok, enough with the attacks, etc. this thread is now closed