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S & J Landscape-Const.
07-20-2008, 12:02 AM
I'm doing a sod job but they r paying for soil and sod what do i charge for laying 21 pallets of sod and spreading soil.

lawnfreak
07-20-2008, 12:12 AM
$1050 minimum labor only just to lay sod. Thats if you can sit the pallets of sod right next to where you are going to lay it and have a machine that you can move the pallets around with. This is based on 50 yds on each pallet. Then you need to charge extra for the dirt-work. The going rate for dirt-work around here is $85 an hour to spread the dirt with a skid-steer. If you have to haul the sod a long distance and or have to move it by hand and wheelbarrow you should charge more. Typically 21 pallets of sod can be laid in about 6 hours with three guys including cutting in and clean-up if you have a machine to move the sod around with.

FordLawnLandscape
07-20-2008, 08:59 AM
$1050.00 ? My lord. At that you're only charging 50 bucks a pallet. I understand that they bought the sod and all that but dude. Around NW GA, and this isnt just me, that sod wouldnt be touched for less than $175 per pallet, and thats on the LOW LOW end! More like 200-225 would be very fare! Glad this area of GA isnt working for that cheap, man there wouldnt be anyone in this buisness then.

KrayzKajun
07-20-2008, 09:58 AM
$4200 jus to lay the sod. Dirt work $75-85/hr.

TXNSLighting
07-20-2008, 11:46 AM
Wow! were lucky to get $100 per pallot laid! Dam i wish i could get 200+

mybowtie
07-20-2008, 02:22 PM
$125 a pallet around here. Any skidsteer work is $75 an hr...........:usflag:

Lawnworks
07-20-2008, 02:26 PM
Yeah $200 for labor only on a pallet of sod?? Maybe for 1 or 2 pallets but not 20. I call bull.

Lawnworks
07-20-2008, 02:27 PM
$4200 jus to lay the sod. Dirt work $75-85/hr.

You don't lay too much sod do you? Might want to stick w/ grass cutting.

PerfectEarth
07-20-2008, 02:30 PM
$125 a pallet around here. Any skidsteer work is $75 an hr...........:usflag:


Sounds realistic. yea, the $1050 number is crazy. Too bad you couldn't sell them the sod!

Lawnworks
07-20-2008, 02:45 PM
$1050 minimum labor only just to lay sod. Thats if you can sit the pallets of sod right next to where you are going to lay it and have a machine that you can move the pallets around with. This is based on 50 yds on each pallet. Then you need to charge extra for the dirt-work. The going rate for dirt-work around here is $85 an hour to spread the dirt with a skid-steer. If you have to haul the sod a long distance and or have to move it by hand and wheelbarrow you should charge more. Typically 21 pallets of sod can be laid in about 6 hours with three guys including cutting in and clean-up if you have a machine to move the sod around with.

I don't think your number is that far off. I guess it just depends on how booked up you are. It sounds like you actually bid against people. I think some people on this site bid things like it is a weekend job or something... and I guess it probably is. The machine like you said is key. It is amazing how much faster you can lay sod when you can keep move them along with you. It usually takes about 20 man hours for me to lay 20 pallets of sod.

slawn
07-20-2008, 03:11 PM
I get $75.00 a pallet here, 450 sq ft. I know some guys that get $50.00. If its only a pallet or two I charge more. If I tried to get $200.00 I would never lay any sod around here.

CALandscapes
07-20-2008, 04:48 PM
For me, sod would be around $100/pallet.

It's hard to give an accurate estimate on the dirt work without knowing the quantity of dirt, scope of work, etc.

BTW - These guys talking about $200+/pallet... That'd literally be raping consumers to charge that. Once everything is prepped, those 21 pallets are going to go down flawlessly in a day with 3 or 4 guys (earning $10-$15/hr each).

FordLawnLandscape
07-20-2008, 07:07 PM
Yeah $200 for labor only on a pallet of sod?? Maybe for 1 or 2 pallets but not 20. I call bull.

I can show proof of where i just finished a job that was 40 pallets of Bermuda that was bidded on by 5 other landscape contractors from NW Ga. I aubviously got the job , and i got the job by bidding each pallet at $195 per pallet. I was by far the low baller and the only reason i came in that low was to make sure i bumped 2 other contractors out on this high end subdivision thats goin up. You call bull ? Hope you dont play poker :p

FordLawnLandscape
07-20-2008, 07:18 PM
This just goes to show the difference in pricing in different demographic areas. I have no reason to lie and make up garbage ab getting such and such per pallet. Im a well established Landscape Contractor who simply gets on this site just like anyone else and post replys. Around here if it were a 5 pallet job, each pallet would go for 300. Thats purchased, delivered, and installed. 20 Pallet jobs, then yes aubviously the price is going to be considerably cheaper like around 175-215 PP. You guys whom are pricing 50-75 PP , lol all i can say is IM SO GLAD im not having to bid agianst you guys!!:nono:

mybowtie
07-20-2008, 08:11 PM
This just goes to show the difference in pricing in different demographic areas. I have no reason to lie and make up garbage ab getting such and such per pallet. Im a well established Landscape Contractor who simply gets on this site just like anyone else and post replys. Around here if it were a 5 pallet job, each pallet would go for 300. Thats purchased, delivered, and installed. 20 Pallet jobs, then yes aubviously the price is going to be considerably cheaper like around 175-215 PP. You guys whom are pricing 50-75 PP , lol all i can say is IM SO GLAD im not having to bid agianst you guys!!:nono:

So your doing a 20+ pallet job for $175-$215 pp. Is that with buying the sod ?
It cost me $180 for a 600sq ft pallet. Thats a 10+ pallet price. Less then 10 the cost goes to around $200 pp.............:usflag:

L$M Services
07-20-2008, 09:28 PM
in the suburbs of philadelphia i an getting between .50 cents and $1 per square foot including prep work and purchase of the sod. the prep is not include any soild that has i have to bring in that is an extra. the average pallet from my supplier is 600 sq ft so i am getting upward of $600 per pallet installed. this is on non-bid work.

hope this helps.

mybowtie
07-20-2008, 09:44 PM
in the suburbs of philadelphia i an getting between .50 cents and $1 per square foot including prep work and purchase of the sod. the prep is not include any soild that has i have to bring in that is an extra. the average pallet from my supplier is 600 sq ft so i am getting upward of $600 per pallet installed. this is on non-bid work.

hope this helps.

How much are you paying per sq ft or for a 600 sq ft pallet?..........:usflag:

Lawnworks
07-20-2008, 09:49 PM
I can show proof of where i just finished a job that was 40 pallets of Bermuda that was bidded on by 5 other landscape contractors from NW Ga. I aubviously got the job , and i got the job by bidding each pallet at $195 per pallet. I was by far the low baller and the only reason i came in that low was to make sure i bumped 2 other contractors out on this high end subdivision thats goin up. You call bull ? Hope you dont play poker :p

Does $195 include the cost of the pallet and delivery? The job in the post... the estimate was on labor only. I am surprised you got the bid... you would be the high bidder 100 miles south of you.

Lawnworks
07-20-2008, 09:49 PM
So your doing a 20+ pallet job for $175-$215 pp. Is that with buying the sod ?
It cost me $180 for a 600sq ft pallet. Thats a 10+ pallet price. Less then 10 the cost goes to around $200 pp.............:usflag:

Wow sod is about 75-85 per pallet delivered here for 500sq ft.

L$M Services
07-20-2008, 11:38 PM
How much are you paying per sq ft or for a 600 sq ft pallet?..........:usflag:
i pay .19 cents per sq ft on orders of less than 5000 sq ft and .15 cents a sq ft on orders greater than 5000 sq ft

EagleLandscape
07-21-2008, 12:52 AM
3150 MIN to lay sod for labor. + materials.

Sod costs 150-180 per pallet here though.

TXNSLighting
07-21-2008, 12:53 AM
well we would charge about $2300 for that job. just a good guess.

TXNSLighting
07-21-2008, 12:54 AM
3150 MIN to lay sod for labor. + materials.

Sod costs 150-180 per pallet here though.

wow j your paying to much for sod!

EagleLandscape
07-21-2008, 12:59 AM
nope, just the cheapest you can get here in dallas. no close sod farms, all that money goes to transportation. but then again, i can install sod and get paid 10 bucks a yard day in, day out. Even though we pay more per yard, we can charge the most. I don't mind:).

CALandscapes
07-21-2008, 01:10 AM
We're paying in the $180 range for a 450 sq. ft. pallet of St. Aug here, in the New Orleans area.

I'd getting laughed it, though, if I tried to charge $200/pallet for labor..

lawnfreak
07-21-2008, 01:34 AM
At $1050 for me that comes out to $58.00 a man hour to lay 21 pallets. As far as pallets go we lay about 70k yards a year of pallets and 50k yds a year of rolls. For me, $58 a man hour is not bad money since my machine will only go through about two gallons of diesel to lay the sod. Some jobs I can get $1.25 a yard to lay it, but that is as much as we can get around here. As a matter of fact, I had someone come up to me just last week asking me if I would sub out some sod work to them. They told me that they would lay the sod for $0.60 a yard, which is what a few landscapers around here are still laying it for the homebuilders since the housing market has cooled off. I think if I just layed sod with two helpers everyday, I would be making good money because that would boost me up to about 325k yds laid per year with just 2 laborers and myself. I wouldn't burn nearly as much diesel per day as we do doing dirt-work adding more money to my pocket in the end. And as for the first post, that is $1050 labor only.

mybowtie
07-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Wow sod is about 75-85 per pallet delivered here for 500sq ft.

Lawnworks.....Do you have many sod farms near you?? That would make the $$ lower in your area. The only 2 sod farms near me are 30+ miles away.

Im doing a 6000 sq ft job tommorrow. $.28 a sq ft delivered + a $15.00 deposit on each pallet. Prob never get the deposit back..Not worth the time/fuel to return them. Dont have the room to store them, and only do 1 or2 sod jobs a yr.

How do u guys cut your sod? Have some beds and pool equip to go around.
Whats the easyest way to make the cuts???.................:usflag:

TXNSLighting
07-21-2008, 12:52 PM
nope, just the cheapest you can get here in dallas. no close sod farms, all that money goes to transportation. but then again, i can install sod and get paid 10 bucks a yard day in, day out. Even though we pay more per yard, we can charge the most. I don't mind:).

man that sucks tho. we pay 120 tops with delivery.

Lawnworks
07-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Lawnworks.....Do you have many sod farms near you?? That would make the $$ lower in your area. The only 2 sod farms near me are 30+ miles away.

Im doing a 6000 sq ft job tommorrow. $.28 a sq ft delivered + a $15.00 deposit on each pallet. Prob never get the deposit back..Not worth the time/fuel to return them. Dont have the room to store them, and only do 1 or2 sod jobs a yr.

How do u guys cut your sod? Have some beds and pool equip to go around.
Whats the easyest way to make the cuts???.................:usflag:

We have a sod farm pretty close. They charge us $6 for the pallet and gives us $4 if I return them. I bid on alot of sod jobs... probably do 200-300 pallets per year. I charge alot more for smaller jobs than larger jobs. It is an efficiency thing. The more pallets it is the less I have to charge to make what I need to make. I have a 30 pallet job to do next week... plan on it taking one day w. 3 guys for 10 hours w/ the dingo roller.

If it is alot of cuts... I would plan on using a stick edger.

White Gardens
07-21-2008, 07:13 PM
We pay around 160 a pallet around here before delivery. It's amazing the price differences I've seen on this thread.

I would say close to 5000 on the estimate in this area.

EagleLandscape
07-21-2008, 07:19 PM
flat shovel for the cuts.

CALandscapes
07-21-2008, 07:58 PM
My guys prefer machetes, razor blades, and shovels.

FordLawnLandscape
07-21-2008, 09:12 PM
I know i was asked soem questions but i dont remeber what they were. As far as me charging 175-215 per pallet to install , thats on a job thats requires 25 pallets or more i would say , and yes that price does include me purchasing and having delivered. At Turf Grass America here in Rome Ga a pallet of Bermuda can be picked up for $67.50 per pallet. Thats 450 sq ft. To have it delivered you have to order 5 or more pallets. THen a pallet of Bermuda is $77.50 delivered. Hope that answers some of the questions i was asked.

FordLawnLandscape
07-21-2008, 09:16 PM
So your doing a 20+ pallet job for $175-$215 pp. Is that with buying the sod ?
It cost me $180 for a 600sq ft pallet. Thats a 10+ pallet price. Less then 10 the cost goes to around $200 pp.............:usflag:

If Im doing a job thats 10 pallets or less then Im charging $250-280 per pallet installed, and of course that price in cludes buying. 10 pallets delivered would cost me $765.00 ... my labor on 10 pallet jobs is around $2500.00 depending on how accesible the area is to be sodded. Price dosent include any grading that needs being done. ** Bermuda around here is 450sq a pallet.

Lawnworks
07-21-2008, 10:35 PM
If Im doing a job thats 10 pallets or less then Im charging $250-280 per pallet installed, and of course that price in cludes buying. 10 pallets delivered would cost me $765.00 ... my labor on 10 pallet jobs is around $2500.00 depending on how accesible the area is to be sodded. Price dosent include any grading that needs being done. ** Bermuda around here is 450sq a pallet.

How often do you do sod?

lawnfreak
07-22-2008, 12:34 AM
All i can say is that FordLawnLandscapes you are lucky to be getting that much just to lay sod. I bid a job about an hour from where you are located to lay 166 pallets of sod (8300 yds) for $1.30 a yard to lay it and i wasn't even close to what the winning bid was.

FordLawnLandscape
07-22-2008, 09:20 PM
How often do you do sod?

Often ..... Have completed 11 sod jobs this year. It helps to be in good with popular builders :cool2: . Im not bragging guys at all, these prices to me are common. Thats just the market for sod pricing in this area.

FordLawnLandscape
07-22-2008, 09:21 PM
All i can say is that FordLawnLandscapes you are lucky to be getting that much just to lay sod. I bid a job about an hour from where you are located to lay 166 pallets of sod (8300 yds) for $1.30 a yard to lay it and i wasn't even close to what the winning bid was.

Where and what were you bidding ?

FordLawnLandscape
07-22-2008, 09:26 PM
All i can say is that FordLawnLandscapes you are lucky to be getting that much just to lay sod. I bid a job about an hour from where you are located to lay 166 pallets of sod (8300 yds) for $1.30 a yard to lay it and i wasn't even close to what the winning bid was.

166 pallets (8300 yds) $1.30 a sq. Thats what, $50.00 per pallet and you didnt get it ? I figured you'd be in there like swimwear on that one. Whoever bid lower than that could've have that job. Thats a good bid u gave.

lawnfreak
07-22-2008, 10:10 PM
A $1.30 a yard is $65 per pallet. The job was in Kennesaw at some new industrial place that was being built.