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sgrprincees
07-26-2008, 01:13 PM
I know there have been lots of threads beating this issue to death in various states, but here's an issue that just came up at work. Last week (not in the lawncare industry) I was driving a 2007 Chevy K3500 DRW with a GVWR of 12,000 lbs according to the sticker on the drivers door. I generally have not been driving, but the guy who regularly drives it (who also does not have his CDL) was on vacation. I was towing a trailer that, according to the sticker on it, was rated at 15,000 lbs. This puts the combination GVWR at 27k lbs. The CO CDL manual defines a class A as being for "Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more provided the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds."

Does everyone else agree with me that, since I don't have a CDL, I was illegally driving this combination? Obviously nobody wants to be wrongly accused by their employees of running unsafely/illegally, so I want to be pretty sure that I was running illegally before bringing it up as an issue.

PerfectEarth
07-26-2008, 01:39 PM
No doubt. 12+15= 27 which is a combo over 26, provided that the trailer is over 10. You need a CDL and yes, you were running illegally.

...unless you have farm plates or somthing...

wellbuilt
07-26-2008, 02:37 PM
What the gvwr is ,dos not matter unless you are over the weight .If you are driving a truck and trailer with a cwr of 27000lbs and its empty there is a problem with your tags( small fine) If you had a load on and it was over 26001 you need a cdl( large fine) I have been checked a few times by the dot .I drive a f350 gvw 14000 lb with a 12000lb trailer =26000 I have a lcf450 16000gvw with a 12000lb trailer=28000lbs ( big fine ). I pull a min EX 78000lb trailer 2200 =10000 with my dump truck 16000lbs The weight is OK but tags are in cdl range , the dot guys want to drag out the scale and weight me . Now i have tags on the trailer that are 10000lbs. You could drop the gvw on the truck two 11000 lbs and be OK.Most pickup hitches are only rated for 12500 with weight distributing hitch and snap brackets.A ford dump truck with a pindle hook set up is rated for 16000lbs but my truck is only rated for 12500 WTF I get pulled over all the time and all my equipment is new and in good shape. I have never been fined.