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dirtybiz
07-29-2008, 12:07 AM
Anybody heard anything on the next generation of bobcat skid steers? I have a low hour S300 that i was thinking of putting vts tracks on as i really could use another ctl, but wanted to see what bobcat was gona come up with first. My dealer said they will have something different this fall, but knows nothing else (or so he claims). In the mean time i guess i will just rack up the hours on the T250.

bobcat_ron
07-29-2008, 10:14 PM
It's going to be Fall of 2008, my dealer always got the new models in early October at the earliest, I remember playing with the first T250 that hit the yard back then, and it was the middle of October.

Gravel Rat
07-29-2008, 10:31 PM
When the new Bobcats come out you will see Ron buying one you know d*mn well Al Roy will be looking at them he likes Bobcrap :laugh:

bobcat_ron
07-29-2008, 10:35 PM
When the new Bobcats come out you will see Ron buying one you know d*mn well Al Roy will be looking at them he likes Bobcrap :laugh:

Never, I am saving 50-60% in fuel right now according to Al Roy, Bobcat's were and always will be pigs on fuel.

YellowDogSVC
07-29-2008, 11:47 PM
Never, I am saving 50-60% in fuel right now according to Al Roy, Bobcat's were and always will be pigs on fuel.

I did get better fuel economy with a 90 hp cat running a brush mower vs. an s300k series Bobcat but the Bobcat. bobcat, though, was more reliable for me.

bobcat_ron
07-30-2008, 12:01 AM
I did get better fuel economy with a 90 hp cat running a brush mower vs. an s300k series Bobcat but the Bobcat. bobcat, though, was more reliable for me.


Here's the facts for the Non-Cat believers:

Bobcat T190-28 gallons of fuel, full bore, balls out starting at 8:00AM, by 3:00PM, I'm tanking up.

Cat 247B2-17 gallons of fuel, same kind of day, same work, just using the throttle pedal more, filling up with fuel by 3:00PM.

Both engines have 57hp, the Cat runs at a higher RPM due to the pumps.

The Bobcat used nearly 10 gallons more fuel, and they really haven't changed that much.

Suck on that Bobcat....eerr..I mean DooCat.

ksss
07-30-2008, 12:07 AM
Here's the facts for the Non-Cat believers:

Bobcat T190-28 gallons of fuel, full bore, balls out starting at 8:00AM, by 3:00PM, I'm tanking up.

Cat 247B2-17 gallons of fuel, same kind of day, same work, just using the throttle pedal more, filling up with fuel by 3:00PM.

Both engines have 57hp, the Cat runs at a higher RPM due to the pumps.

The Bobcat used nearly 10 gallons more fuel, and they really haven't changed that much.

Suck on that Bobcat....eerr..I mean DooCat.

06 CASE 440 9 hours 20 gallons 83 hp.

Thats real hp.:weightlifter:

minimax
07-30-2008, 12:29 AM
Deere ct 322,66 hp, A/C on push and hogging dirt 8:00am to 5:00pm = 14 gals,Running flail mower on high flow 8:00 to 3:30 pm = 17.5 gals.
Nothing runs like a deere,nothing eats (fuel) like cats and bobcats:laugh::laugh:

minimax

bobcat_ron
07-30-2008, 11:52 AM
So Deere, Case and Cat's are the best for fuel economy. Not too shabby.

KSSS, just for you:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gLezUUEhN6s

YardPro
07-30-2008, 08:33 PM
our bobcat t200 has 80ish hp and will go all day on a tank...

bobcat_ron
07-30-2008, 09:17 PM
our bobcat t200 has 80ish hp and will go all day on a tank...

That's because before the changes to that frame size came out, they used massive tanks, something like 40+ gallons, I rented one once, man that tank took one hell of a lot of go-go juice. :dizzy:

dozerman21
07-30-2008, 09:54 PM
06 CASE 440 9 hours 20 gallons 83 hp.

Thats real hp.:weightlifter:

Do you think a 440CT would be pretty similar? Any knowledge on how the Series 3 Tier III engines are on fuel?

20 gallons in 9 hours with that much HP is very impressive. Is that hard excavation with the throttle wide open?

Junior M
07-30-2008, 10:02 PM
Do you think a 440CT would be pretty similar? Any knowledge on how the Series 3 Tier III engines are on fuel?

20 gallons in 9 hours with that much HP is very impressive. Is that hard excavation with the throttle wide open?
i have ran a 420ct and put eleven hours on it and used right at half a tank of fuel and that was moving heavy muddy clay and then backfilling some stump holes...

ksss
07-30-2008, 10:15 PM
Do you think a 440CT would be pretty similar? Any knowledge on how the Series 3 Tier III engines are on fuel?

20 gallons in 9 hours with that much HP is very impressive. Is that hard excavation with the throttle wide open?


Thats spreading topsoil dropped by dump truck, I get the same running a preparator. However that is not "hard digging".

I have no complaints with the fuel usage on that machine. Its a little powerhouse and it does not kill your fuel budget. I cant say the same for the 465. That machine uses fuel. As far as the 440CT I am not sure and the same goes for the Series 3 machines. They have been selling a few of the Series 3 machines 3-465's and 3 440's that I know of. I have yet to run into one the new owner to ask. I still have not demoed one. Take one out for a test drive for a day and let us know. Since your a new 650 owner they should be more than accommondating.:cool2:

ksss
07-30-2008, 10:28 PM
So Deere, Case and Cat's are the best for fuel economy. Not too shabby.

KSSS, just for you:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gLezUUEhN6s



I found the operators shirt interesting. Bobcat 50 year anniversary shirt. "Unleash the Power". Please I just ate.:rolleyes:

Junior M
07-30-2008, 10:30 PM
now that is just plain rude!!!!!:nono: hahaha

ksss
07-30-2008, 10:43 PM
now that is just plain rude!!!!!:nono: hahaha


You know exactly what I mean T-190 owner.:waving:

mrsops
07-30-2008, 10:51 PM
You know exactly what I mean T-190 owner.:waving:

hey ksss is it just the t190 that you feel his underpowered or all bobcats?? i remember you saying that the bobcat s220 that you demo you were very impressed with?

Junior M
07-30-2008, 10:55 PM
You know exactly what I mean T-190 owner.:waving:
hey now i dont officially own a t190 i just rent one!!!! mr oooo powertan is so awesome nothing can beat it cuz it is just so freakn awesome!!!! hahahahahahahaha

ksss
07-30-2008, 10:58 PM
hey ksss is it just the t190 that you feel his underpowered or all bobcats?? i remember you saying that the bobcat s220 that you demo you were very impressed with?

The 220 I demoed had good power. I have run a T250 also that had decent power. The 220 I was overall impressed the most with.

mrsops
07-30-2008, 11:02 PM
The 220 I demoed had good power. I have run a T250 also that had decent power. The 220 I was overall impressed the most with.

yeah when i demoed the s220 i liked it alot i went with the s205 because i was able to invert the rims and tires to 5'. maybe next time around ill go with a 220

YellowDogSVC
07-30-2008, 11:11 PM
yeah when i demoed the s220 i liked it alot i went with the s205 because i was able to invert the rims and tires to 5'. maybe next time around ill go with a 220

you still like the 330?

mrsops
07-30-2008, 11:14 PM
you still like the 330?

love the s330 tons of power and its so comfortable to operate

Junior M
07-30-2008, 11:38 PM
love the s330 tons of power and its so comfortable to operate
what controls does it have?

mrsops
07-30-2008, 11:39 PM
what controls does it have?

hand and foot

mrsops
07-30-2008, 11:41 PM
you still like the 330?

hey yellow dont you miss your bobby bobcat? :)

dozerman21
07-30-2008, 11:43 PM
Thats spreading topsoil dropped by dump truck, I get the same running a preparator. However that is not "hard digging".

I have no complaints with the fuel usage on that machine. Its a little powerhouse and it does not kill your fuel budget. I cant say the same for the 465. That machine uses fuel. As far as the 440CT I am not sure and the same goes for the Series 3 machines. They have been selling a few of the Series 3 machines 3-465's and 3 440's that I know of. I have yet to run into one the new owner to ask. I still have not demoed one. Take one out for a test drive for a day and let us know. Since your a new 650 owner they should be more than accommondating.:cool2:

I plan on trying to get a 440CT Series 3 demo before summer ends. I'd like to put one to work and see how it does with the pilots. I also want to put the pressurized cab to test.

The 465 is probably similar to my CT332 on fuel consumption. It's a freakin' hog at around 4 gallons/hr., but I do have to run it wide open because I almost exclusively am digging in hard clay or soggy muck with it. Finish grading isn't as bad. I think it should do at least a half of a gallon/hour better, but it's a hoss though. My T300 was around 3.5 gallons/hr., but the Deere is much stronger.

YellowDogSVC
07-31-2008, 12:06 AM
hey yellow dont you miss your bobby bobcat? :)

Yeah. That's why I ordered an s330 to replace the 272c that cat couldn't fix. I hope the s330 has the power that some people says it does. My first sales guy last year told me it didn't so I went with CAT.

mrsops
07-31-2008, 12:09 AM
Yeah. That's why I ordered an s330 to replace the 272c that cat couldn't fix. I hope the s330 has the power that some people says it does. My first sales guy last year told me it didn't so I went with CAT.

whens your s330 coming in? what did it set you back? didnt you buy the cat 272 brand new? why didnt you like it

YellowDogSVC
07-31-2008, 01:27 AM
whens your s330 coming in? what did it set you back? didnt you buy the cat 272 brand new? why didnt you like it

272 didn't work as advertised. Cab never sealed right and it was in the shop for 28 days plus some field service calls between April 1 and July 1.

Let's just say the 330 isn't cheap. I had to add some modifications and hulk tires to make it woods worthy. These machines are about 50k. Machine is in but takes a week to get it set up (hopefully).Last s300 took 2 weeks.

dirtybiz
08-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Wow, this sure got way off topic in short order, so no one has really heard anything yet? I guess i will just have to wait till fall, hopefully some more information will be available soon so i can make a decision.