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ToroLandscaper
07-30-2008, 09:06 PM
Im renting a bobcat for a week and planned on hauling it with my 1995 isuzu NPR (turbo diesel), i wont be going any further than 20 miles, does anyone think i would run into a problem with this?

kreft
07-30-2008, 09:13 PM
On a trailer or on the back? It only weighs 1750 lbs so i don't see a problem either way.

LyaecS175
07-30-2008, 09:15 PM
S175? 1750lbs? I'm pretty sure it's closer to 6600 lbs...

kreft
07-30-2008, 09:18 PM
o yea never mind i was thinking about the operating capacity.

ToroLandscaper
07-30-2008, 09:22 PM
On the back on the landscaper body. Does anyone know how much a NPR weighs, i mean i dont see any problems with hauling a S175 but wants your alls opinions.

Tigerotor77W
07-30-2008, 09:23 PM
S175? 1750lbs? I'm pretty sure it's closer to 6600 lbs...

5808 pounds IIRC

Junior M
07-30-2008, 09:25 PM
ehhhhhh that seems like a pretty risky deal... i think i would just get a trailer instead...

PerfectEarth
07-30-2008, 09:29 PM
Well, figure the tare weight of your truck (go to a scale with a full tank and you in it), the exact weight of the machine and attachment, your truck's GVWR and do the math.

Your truck can probably handle it but can your ramps?

kreft
07-30-2008, 09:30 PM
theres only one way to find out...:)

Junior M
07-30-2008, 09:32 PM
theres only one way to find out...:)
well if you do it krefts way and just say screw it and go ahead do it i want some pics of that thing going up the ramps!! no screw that i want freakn video!!!

Gravel Rat
07-30-2008, 10:07 PM
What a bunch of chickens :laugh:

Put the Bobcat in the back of the truck and go for it if its a 3500 series truck it will be heavy but the truck will do it.

The Isuzu trucks carry loads better than towing them. I seen the Isuzu/GMC trucks carry some heavy loads with no problems at all.

ToroLandscaper
07-30-2008, 10:44 PM
What a bunch of chickens :laugh:

Put the Bobcat in the back of the truck and go for it if its a 3500 series truck it will be heavy but the truck will do it.

The Isuzu trucks carry loads better than towing them. I seen the Isuzu/GMC trucks carry some heavy loads with no problems at all.

Yeah its a little slow beast, slow, but a beast. I had i think (and dont qoute me) but like 17 loads of mulch on me, she was slow and not fun to drive on the interstate but it chugged along with out any problems, it got kinda squirly after about 40 mph but handled it good other than that, i think i will be fine!

Gravel Rat
07-30-2008, 11:07 PM
Like I said it is amazing what those Isuzus will carry. It is the 16 inch tires that don't like the weight the ones with 17.5 rubber is a little better.

J. Peterson Grading
07-30-2008, 11:11 PM
No. Do not do it.

I have 2 NPR dumps. I load them heavy all the time, But loading that loader on that truck will make it so top heavy that you would tip it leaving the rental yard.

Pulling with them is another story altogether, and I would go that way if you could.

J.

crab
07-30-2008, 11:41 PM
i cant believe theres no liability clause from the rental place.

ksss
07-31-2008, 12:32 AM
No. Do not do it.

I have 2 NPR dumps. I load them heavy all the time, But loading that loader on that truck will make it so top heavy that you would tip it leaving the rental yard.

Pulling with them is another story altogether, and I would go that way if you could.

J.


That was going to be my suggestion. The weight will be up high making a marginal carry even more dangerous. I would have to check I don't think my 5500 is rated to carry 8K on the back of the flatbed. Rent a trailer if you have to. Here it is like 45 dollars, sometimes they just give it to you, so I am told.

Scag48
07-31-2008, 12:54 AM
Trailer for sure. I had about 5K of compost mulch in those huge sling bags that weigh about 1,000 pounds a pop on the flatbed of an '01 F450 that we had a couple years ago. Tricky run that was. Those bags aren't even that tall, maybe 3 feet off the deck at most, but it was a good chunk of weight even for that truck. I'd rate the NPR to be able to handle the same or less weight on the flatbed than an F450 which GVWR'ed at 16,000. Get a trailer and save yourself some agony.

Gravel Rat
07-31-2008, 01:49 AM
Holy crap I never seen so many chickens :laugh:

I have had more weight on the back of a regular 1 ton like loads of sod stacked 4 feet tall heavy as h*ll.

If your too scared to try it put the machine on a trailer.

I guess you guys don't know what a trucking is. If I was that chicken to haul a load I wouldn't be making any money.

The machine weighs 6200lbs it is 10 feet long 5.5 feet wide and 6 feet tall.

Its up to you but I would load that machine on my F-450 and head down the road with it.

ksss
07-31-2008, 09:42 AM
Holy crap I never seen so many chickens :laugh:

I have had more weight on the back of a regular 1 ton like loads of sod stacked 4 feet tall heavy as h*ll.

If your too scared to try it put the machine on a trailer.

I guess you guys don't know what a trucking is. If I was that chicken to haul a load I wouldn't be making any money.

The machine weighs 6200lbs it is 10 feet long 5.5 feet wide and 6 feet tall.

Its up to you but I would load that machine on my F-450 and head down the road with it.


IF THERE EVER WAS AN ENDORSEMENT TO PUT IT ON A TRAILER, READ THE ABOVE QUOTE.


PS. I think it has been about 30 years since someone has called me a "chicken". It did make me laugh.

bobcat_ron
07-31-2008, 10:44 AM
Go for it, the worst it can do is blow a seal on the rear axle, my truck did that, and it was no biggy.

Gravel Rat
07-31-2008, 03:04 PM
Man what a bunch of pansys you guys would be laughed at. The other day I seen a small excavation contractor not a local guy but he seemed like he knew his stuff. He has a older PSD F-Superduty (F-450) he had a 6000lb mini on the back of the truck and towing a trailer with a skid steer. It was heavy the truck handled it thou.

I learned from truck drivers with 30 years of experience I know what you can put on a 1.5-2 ton truck. What I have loaded on other guys 1 ton trucks like loader buckets that weigh 3.5-4 ton.

Like I said I have loaded over 10,000lbs on a F550 my F-450s I have had 8000lbs on them. I have hauled short logs heavier than that skid steer on my older F-Superdutys.

That Isuzu isn't going to pull a trailer worth chit because the truck doesn't have the power to gross combine that much weight.

I wish I had pictures of me hauling sod and what I used to put on my F-350 flatdeck. I could get 3 skids at 2200lbs per skid plus I stacked extra rolls on. When the sod farm is 30 miles away you want to get on as much as you can.

Hauling 3 ton on a F-450 is nothing hauling 3 ton on a 1 ton is heavy you need to know what your doing.

What I have seen the P+D guys put on Isuzu/GMC 1.5-2 ton cabovers is 5-6 ton. One guy had a W5 GMC used to put 10,000lbs on it regularly.

You know when your too heavy when the trucks brakes have little effect with light pedal pressure. Your biggest worry is the goat trail driveway if your brakes fail your truck will be a write off. Residential driveways have no limits on the grades they can be. The new building sites are worse alot of them are if a excavator can walk up the slope its a driveway.

BrandonV
07-31-2008, 05:12 PM
i'd be afraid you'll tear up the ramps to your landscape bed, I have no doubt the truck would do it but you mower ramp's hinges ain't designed for that kind of weight.

Gravel Rat
07-31-2008, 06:05 PM
Find a bank to back the truck up to and drive the machine out and no I don't mean a bank you put money in :laugh:

Junior M
07-31-2008, 06:07 PM
Find a bank to back the truck up to and drive the machine out and no I don't mean a bank you put money in :laugh:
i hope you dont!!! :haha:

tnmtn
07-31-2008, 07:36 PM
chicken, pansies, i'm sorry but this is more than i can take :laugh: the sky is falling. :laugh:

Canon Landscaping
07-31-2008, 08:09 PM
We do it all the time the npr will go 70 with one on the back and you hardly know its there

ToroLandscaper
07-31-2008, 11:50 PM
We do it all the time the npr will go 70 with one on the back and you hardly know its there

Well that makes me feel better for sure!

hosejockey2002
08-01-2008, 12:17 AM
The NPR should easily and safely handle a 6000 pound load, heck my little 2500HD handles 4000 no sweat.

BrandonV
08-02-2008, 09:41 AM
good deal, i was just parinoid because we screwed up the ramp to our kaufman landscape trailer loading our little kubota tractor on it. now I'm curious if i could load my sk650 on my new landscape bed from switch n go

Gravel Rat
08-02-2008, 07:53 PM
If you guys are worried about the expanded metal then get some sheets of used 3/4 inch plywood and put it up the ramp and beaver tail. It will help even out the tire pressure from bending anything.

Planet Landscaping
08-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Somebody show the video of the no ramps load job please.