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Juan if by land
08-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Let's say I have to replace a spray body,I twist it out with the Channelocks,see that it was installed with a nipple.I coat the female threads of the new body with some Rectorseal(just the right amount),then spin it back down.No muss,no fuss.

In an open hole,I use tape.It's the "Use No Dope" thing that bothers me.

Should I watch my back?

AI Inc
08-06-2008, 03:35 PM
I remember the first time I installed a sprinkler head and read " use no pipe dope" I thought " how did they know it was going to be me installing it"?

evergreensolutions
08-06-2008, 03:49 PM
My understanding is that the "use no dope" disclaimer is to limit the knuckleheads that put a 3" bead on the riser and then end up with clogged filters. It shouldn't hurt the plastic or anything.

Mike Leary
08-06-2008, 03:57 PM
I remember the first time I installed a sprinkler head and read " use no pipe dope" I thought " how did they know it was going to be me installing it"?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

WalkGood
08-06-2008, 07:46 PM
Let's say I have to replace a spray body,I twist it out with the Channelocks,see that it was installed with a nipple.I coat the female threads of the new body with some Rectorseal(just the right amount),then spin it back down.No muss,no fuss.

In an open hole,I use tape.It's the "Use No Dope" thing that bothers me.

Should I watch my back?


You do not need rectorseal. Period.

Mike Leary
08-06-2008, 07:48 PM
You do not need rectorseal. Period.

If you use a Marlex ell, that is true. Period.

Wet_Boots
08-06-2008, 08:19 PM
You don't need the paste dope period, unless you have a bad case of limp wrists. Old paste dopes were never intended to contact plastic, which wasn't in plumbing use when the paste dopes were formulated.

Mike Leary
08-06-2008, 08:26 PM
You don't need the paste dope period, unless you have a bad case of limp wrists.

Only ROTAR has the wrist problem, the newer dope is made for plastics.

Wet_Boots
08-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Only ROTAR has the wrist problem, the newer dope is made for plastics.Major diss :waving: ~ When those stickers first appeared, a lot of paste dopes were original formulas, and death to some plastics.

Dirty Water
08-06-2008, 08:41 PM
I always read it as "Use No Pipe, Dope".

Then I wondered how to get water to the sprinklers.

Mike Leary
08-06-2008, 09:25 PM
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

JB926
08-06-2008, 10:07 PM
nice inside out glass piece

Mike Leary
08-06-2008, 10:15 PM
nice inside out glass piece

It's served me well.:dizzy:

CAPT Stream Rotar
08-06-2008, 10:30 PM
wow.....leary.....someday....me/u

hoskm01
08-06-2008, 11:10 PM
wow.....leary.....someday....me/u
His wife might take issue.

bicmudpuppy
08-07-2008, 12:03 AM
C'mon Boots, Mike. It's fun to laugh at the pups, but do the even sell PIPE DOPE anymore? They sell pipe sealant and most of it is teflon based. I don't think you can even buy the stuff we used to use on galvy swing joints and fittings. The Dope warnings were on all the bird in a bucket heads too. the internal workings and the non-metal parts in the valve in heads really didn't like dope.

Juan if by land
08-08-2008, 08:08 AM
So,

Tape + Dope = Everlasting JOY ???

AI Inc
08-08-2008, 08:11 AM
So,

Tape + Dope = Everlasting JOY ???

No, nothing needed at all.

Wet_Boots
08-08-2008, 08:26 AM
You just don't have horrible leakage at heads threaded onto bare sch 80 risers. In olden days there was even an adjustable riser brass head that used 'straight' pipe threads to connect to the similarly-threaded brass riser nipple.

Dripit good
08-08-2008, 09:14 AM
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about.

What the.......!?!?!? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Is this how you make a sea monkey?

Juan if by land
08-08-2008, 07:30 PM
Tape + Dope....for anything,ever?

bicmudpuppy
08-08-2008, 08:21 PM
GEEEZ, I thought the days of Boots and his bandwidth police was bad. There are threads missing from here?? A silly comment from Dana no less? Not even his normal level of sarcasm. I bet a guy could miss entire conversations with the mods acting this way.

Mike Leary
08-08-2008, 09:41 PM
I had to work today, what did I miss? What was the question? Were the usual
suspects involved?

Kiril
08-09-2008, 01:46 AM
I had to work today, what did I miss? What was the question? Were the usual suspects involved?

Probably. You practically have to hold some people at gun point just to get a straight answer from them.

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=115084&d=1216703016

AI Inc
08-09-2008, 07:41 AM
Tape + Dope....for anything,ever?

Metal on metal gets tape and dope. Manifold parts I use just tape.
Others may disagree.

Juan if by land
08-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Metal on metal gets tape and dope. Manifold parts I use just tape.
Others may disagree.

Thank you.

I am praying and confident that there will be a consensus.

I am very sensitive to any form of disagreement.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-09-2008, 08:15 AM
Thank you.

I am praying and confident that there will be a consensus.

I am very sensitive to any form of disagreement.

You are being sarcastic I pray.

bicmudpuppy
08-09-2008, 08:31 AM
Metal on metal gets tape and dope. Manifold parts I use just tape.
Others may disagree.

Where, exactly, are you still buying dope? That you can buy thread SEALANT, or TFE PASTE, I have no doubt, BUT I will repeat (one more time, from the cheap seats for the pups who have no clue), that I don't think you can actually buy PIPE DOPE anymore.

punt66
08-09-2008, 08:35 AM
Where, exactly, are you still buying dope? That you can buy thread SEALANT, or TFE PASTE, I have no doubt, BUT I will repeat (one more time, from the cheap seats for the pups who have no clue), that I don't think you can actually buy PIPE DOPE anymore.

Yes you ca. Home Depot has it.

bicmudpuppy
08-09-2008, 08:38 AM
Yes you ca. Home Depot has it.

Post a link. They sell nothing in the store you can't buy on-line. You can take offense at this point if you want to, but I still say what your buying is NOT pipe dope. It will either be a modern thread sealant or teflon paste.

bicmudpuppy
08-09-2008, 08:41 AM
Search for "pipe dope" at Home cheapo.............results zero

Search for "dope"...........no results in plumbing

Search for "thread sealant".............5 results all rectorseal products

AI Inc
08-09-2008, 08:45 AM
Where, exactly, are you still buying dope? That you can buy thread SEALANT, or TFE PASTE, I have no doubt, BUT I will repeat (one more time, from the cheap seats for the pups who have no clue), that I don't think you can actually buy PIPE DOPE anymore.

You are correct I call it dope (actualy I call it mud) But it is realy teflon thread sealant.

Juan if by land
08-09-2008, 08:45 AM
Where, exactly, are you still buying dope? That you can buy thread SEALANT, or TFE PASTE, I have no doubt, BUT I will repeat (one more time, from the cheap seats for the pups who have no clue), that I don't think you can actually buy PIPE DOPE anymore.

DOPE= Sealant=Teflon paste=Rectorseal=others

sorry,just easier to say and spell.

Dope probably isn't dope anymore anyway.

bicmudpuppy
08-09-2008, 08:46 AM
Same search at Lowe's gives one result for an Oatey product. A search of their site gives this definition for dope

2. What is pipe dope?

Pipe dope is an industry slang term for thread sealant. It lubricates and seals when it is brushed on to pipe threads where two pipes are joined.

Generally, in my experience, any time we use the term "industry slang" like this, it is to imply that the word being used doesn't truly exist. In this case, dope wa a real product, but only back in the day of galvy and iron pipe.

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-09-2008, 08:47 AM
Nonetheless here is plumbers discussing the topic as well.

http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13506

FIMCO-MEISTER
08-09-2008, 08:53 AM
This guy had a funny response.

I use Pro-Dope, then tape, the Teflon paste, then another layer of tape. Then I epoxy the whole mess after I screw it together with a pair of 24s (with cheaters of course) as tight as I can.

If it even looks like its gonna leak I put a couple passes of P5 on there and cap it off with some 7018 rod, flattop it with a 4" grinder, buff it up with some flapper wheels, and add another coat of epoxy paint for good measure and to fill in any porosity.

6 pages on this topic and not one thread stealer (pun) among the bunch.

punt66
08-09-2008, 09:07 AM
Post a link. They sell nothing in the store you can't buy on-line. You can take offense at this point if you want to, but I still say what your buying is NOT pipe dope. It will either be a modern thread sealant or teflon paste.

i dont take offense. I am not going to argue with the ingredience of pipe dope. hahah But i bought pipe dope at home depot and used it when i installed my new kitchen. It says pipe dope right on it.

punt66
08-09-2008, 09:09 AM
Post a link. They sell nothing in the store you can't buy on-line. You can take offense at this point if you want to, but I still say what your buying is NOT pipe dope. It will either be a modern thread sealant or teflon paste.


oh and by the way, they dont have everything listed online! not even close

Waterit
08-09-2008, 09:50 AM
This guy had a funny response.

He sounds like the Fimco-Meister of the plumbing world (no offense).

Wet_Boots
08-09-2008, 09:57 AM
He sounds like the Fimco-Meister of the plumbing world (no offense). Piker.....