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Rsails
08-19-2008, 08:44 AM
I am looking at two f350 mason dumps.

one is 2005 with a V10 the other is 6.0 diesel.

the diesel is probably going to cost me more.

My question is for the long term which motor would you go with. MPG looks to be the same from what I can tell from different websites

Lawn-Sharks
08-19-2008, 09:27 AM
I would think the V10 would give you less problems then the 6.0 Diesel, only because i know that Ford had many issues with the 6.0 diesels and the V10s have proven to be stong engines. But im sure longevity would be with the diesel..Just my thoughts.

lil'dale
08-19-2008, 09:35 AM
I have a 6.0 in my excursion. Wouldn't trade it for the world. TONS of torque and 20 mpg on the highway, although you won't get that in a dump. I can't imagine not having all that torque and trying to haul a load.

Lawn-Sharks
08-19-2008, 10:30 AM
(This was back in 06') My friend owns a transporting business and he bought a new F-350 dually w/6.0 to pull his car hauler and that truck spent more time at the dealership then it did on the road, also i was looking for a newer ford diesel truck (This was the beginning of 08) with the 7.3 because of the reliability of the engine. I went to test drive a few truck and one of the dealers was were selling the 6.0 diesel trucks & 7.3 diesel trucks side by side and selling the 6.0's for spit, as the dealer said to me we cant give these trucks away because of the bad wrap of the 6.0's. The same truck but one year older with a little more mileage but with the 7.3 was selling for $3,500 more then the 6.0... I test drove them because the were cheaper and out of the three trucks 2 of them ran like crap and wouldn't get out of their own way and the 3rd truck the dealer came and picked me and the salesmen up and had the truck towed back to the dealership because it quit running, also all of these truck had less then 95,000 miles on them..Thats 3 different trucks and 3 different dealers. I ended up buying a 00' F350 super crew w/7.3 power stroke and it has been problem free and its now pushing over 200,000 miles!

Boast Enterpris
08-19-2008, 11:00 AM
I have 3 V10 trucks in my fleet. Only motor problems associated with theses trucks are the passenger side manifold bolts.

lil'dale
08-19-2008, 12:18 PM
My 6.0 has 75,000 miles. Never been in the shop.

MysticLandscape
08-19-2008, 12:36 PM
Once again another person bashing a 6.0 that has never even owned one and just believes what everbody else says. All the guys I know with 6.0's love them ,nine trucks total an none of them have ever had any major problems..

mow king
08-19-2008, 12:52 PM
I agree with Mystic.

I owned a F350 with a 6.0, sold it with 115k miles on it, the only problem was the injectors went at about 60k.

Bought a F250 with a V10 and sold it 1500 miles later. That truck towing a skidsteer averaged 7-8mpg. Always had the pedal to the metal. Would slow down to 45mph on hills.

Yes the motor is great when it's not towing and it has more power then the V8 but it doesn't compare to the diesel at all.

I'm back in a F250 with a 6.0 diesel averaging 13mpg towing a skidsteer doing 65-70 up and down hills all day long.

TXNSLighting
08-19-2008, 01:46 PM
I vote for the 6.0! I owned one and loved it.

Drew Gemma
08-19-2008, 02:27 PM
2002 f350 ext cab lariate with dump I love it mileage is 7.5 with dump bed also everyone here argues torque and such but forgets to mention the rear end ratio is important. gas is still cheaper than diesel and v 10 parts are a dime a dozen versus buying injectors.

Gravel Rat
08-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Get a OASIS report on the truck with a 6.0 and see what has been done to it.

The 6.0s are good if they have been fixed properly if they have had some dealer mechanic that has no clue how to fix the 6.0 it will be problematic.

The V10 is good engine will be a little piggy on fuel.

Your biggest problem will be the fact with 1 yard of dirt the truck will be legally loaded. A F-350 just doesn't have the payload capacity the tare weight of a 1 ton mason dump doesn't leave much payload.

TXNSLighting
08-19-2008, 07:31 PM
2002 f350 ext cab lariate with dump I love it mileage is 7.5 with dump bed also everyone here argues torque and such but forgets to mention the rear end ratio is important. gas is still cheaper than diesel and v 10 parts are a dime a dozen versus buying injectors.

you have a 7.3... hes asking about 6.0's. everyone knows yours is perfect! Good ole 7.3

wildlandscape
08-19-2008, 11:18 PM
my fathers company runs 6.0's in all the F350's they have, and he said there great. only problem was a 2003 F450 blew a turbo but it was fords fault, other wise they just change the oil, 4 of them with 150,000+ miles still running great

Drew Gemma
08-19-2008, 11:20 PM
no i have a v 10 that get 7.5 mpg since I put a dump bed on it

D&B Sharp Finish
08-20-2008, 12:39 AM
I have worked on too many 6.0's to be able to tell anybody to buy one. But there are a few out there that will run perfect forever... Good Luck!

Rsails
08-20-2008, 10:08 AM
tough call but I went with a f550 6.0 mason dump 2003 with 42k milages and plow set up for 24k from a local ford dealer. 2 years left on warranty and I am going to ask about an extended warranty on the engine. Oasis report was clean

Gravel Rat
08-20-2008, 02:13 PM
A F-550 is a better choice over a F-350.

nosparkplugs
08-20-2008, 02:49 PM
Theirs a reason theirs so many used Ford v-10's, and 6.0's out their. Folks are all looking for the venerable 7.3L's, and those have issues been their:laugh:, but more reliable than any Powerstroke since.


avoid the 6.0, and V10, get a used F-350 or F-550 with a 7.3L. personally from experience, I'm done with Ford been their done the Powerstroke "thing" spent more time in the dealership with a Ford "Power puke". Finding a used Diesels in general that has the 7.3L regardless of mil age are getting rare around here. I personally wish I would have never listen to my ex-business partner who was a ford diehard. Zero problems with Cummins 100% workhorse, down side until this year only a Dodge 3500 with Cummins diesel, now 4500, 5500:clapping: My next truck will be a Dodge 4500 or 5500.

Gravel Rat
08-20-2008, 03:29 PM
Dodge will be bankrupt next year so you buy a Dodge good luck :laugh:

Dodge dealers WILL NOT work on a 4500-5500 only if you want one better buy the Sterling version which are not selling.

Ford has been building better trucks for decades.

I looked at a 5500 Sterling the frame looks like its made from cheap tin. We all know Dodge cabs are recycled pop cans.

Dodge has always been junk and always will be junk why do you think Dodge trucks sell 10 grand cheaper to a comparable Ford or Chev.

Dodge owners really have to prove to themselves they got suckered in buying a piece of junk so they defend their Dodge to no end.

jkingrph
08-20-2008, 03:38 PM
I have an '03 April build 6.0. The only times it has been in the shop has been for routine maintance, a couple of flash updates on computer system, and a recall about wiring harness. Other than that it has run perfectly, and "if" i drive conseratively on the highway gives about 21-22 mpg. 4x4, CC LB , auto, with custom cab camper top.

nosparkplugs
08-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Dodge will be bankrupt next year so you buy a Dodge good luck :laugh:

Dodge dealers WILL NOT work on a 4500-5500 only if you want one better buy the Sterling version which are not selling.

Ford has been building better trucks for decades.

I looked at a 5500 Sterling the frame looks like its made from cheap tin. We all know Dodge cabs are recycled pop cans.

Dodge has always been junk and always will be junk why do you think Dodge trucks sell 10 grand cheaper to a comparable Ford or Chev.

Dodge owners really have to prove to themselves they got suckered in buying a piece of junk so they defend their Dodge to no end.

The Debate rekindled again

Thats great rational, I had a business partner who sounded just like you about Ford, I of course am a Dodge/Cummins fan, and so i tried the Fords, and had written contract drawn up that if in the end he left or the Ford was a lemon he took the payments over. The F-350 7.3L dually crew was Junk 3 cam position sensors left us stranded with our trailer, at 45,000 miles the transmission failed, found faulty design in sprag gear in the 02 Ford transmissions dealer refused to "fix" the problem, only would install the same transmission with the sprag gear not fixed. Then multiple HEUI injector problems poor engine performance, dealer refused to replace injectors.
That little insignificant contract I drew up came back to bite him when he wanted the business to continue to pay for the Ford truck's problems, he's gone now along with Ford.

For Our business the Dodge 2500 with the Cummins 5.9L diesel has been the best towing & hauling truck we have operated, low maintenance the Cab & frame are well built, no cab air leaks etc, and has held up better than a Ford F-350 towing this tractor daily. I totally disagree on the Dodge is Junk threads I have owned both.


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D&B Sharp Finish
08-21-2008, 12:08 AM
Lets settle this the right way, anybody with a ford can come to the track with me and we can see who wins... haha, just kidding, I've had both and liked them both, and that is all i'll say.

lyube
08-21-2008, 01:10 AM
Drove the bosses 03 f250 with the 6.0 and it's cherry. Drives like a sport cars..it's fast for a diesel and gets decent MPGs. 110k

LawnProLandCare
08-21-2008, 01:19 AM
i currently own a 2000 f350 with the 2 valve V10 and it has plenty of power but would trade for a 6.0 diesel in a heart beat, granted they have had some lemons but they were Mostly the 2003.5 & 2004 year models. the 2005 v10 has the 3 valve v motor which has a considerable amount more than the 2 valve does (drove an 08 vs. my 00) but the diesel is still going to get it power wise. the v10 will definately get the same job done but might work a little harder .

MysticLandscape
08-21-2008, 07:01 PM
Full load of grass pulling my trailer up hill an it doesnt even down shift lets see the the V10 do that. 10.5 MPG loaded with a trailer lets see the v10 do that all day...

LawnProLandCare
08-21-2008, 10:29 PM
i currently own a 2000 f350 with the 2 valve V10 and it has plenty of power but would trade for a 6.0 diesel in a heart beat, granted they have had some lemons but they were Mostly the 2003.5 & 2004 year models. the 2005 v10 has the 3 valve v motor which has a considerable amount more than the 2 valve does (drove an 08 vs. my 00) but the diesel is still going to get it power wise. the v10 will definately get the same job done but might work a little harder .

Full load of grass pulling my trailer up hill an it doesnt even down shift lets see the the V10 do that. 10.5 MPG loaded with a trailer lets see the v10 do that all day...

just thought i would post that again for yea mystic and maybe this time you will actually read it . i said i would take a 6.0 in a heartbeat and that they DO have more power than my V10, But my truck will pull all the same loads your's does BUT WILL WORK A LITTLE HARDER AT IT.

no wheres did i say anything bad about the 6.0 or anything about a v10 getting better fuel mileage, or my truck being able to pull loads better. :hammerhead: