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lyube
08-21-2008, 12:51 AM
Getting a project vehicle (hopefully) at the end of the year. Weighs about 8 thousand pounds. I figure a 14 foot goose neck at about 2 tons? (probably wrong).

This whole 50% off sale by Ford and dodge has me wondering. f250 with the 5.4l v8? Probably not, my guess...

TXNSLighting
08-21-2008, 10:06 AM
Getting a project vehicle (hopefully) at the end of the year. Weighs about 8 thousand pounds. I figure a 14 foot goose neck at about 2 tons? (probably wrong).

This whole 50% off sale by Ford and dodge has me wondering. f250 with the 5.4l v8? Probably not, my guess...

youll want the diesel for that load...a 3/4 is fine just wrong engine.

TXNSLighting
08-21-2008, 10:07 AM
Getting a project vehicle (hopefully) at the end of the year. Weighs about 8 thousand pounds. I figure a 14 foot goose neck at about 2 tons? (probably wrong).

This whole 50% off sale by Ford and dodge has me wondering. f250 with the 5.4l v8? Probably not, my guess...

whats this project vehicle?

lyube
08-21-2008, 12:12 PM
whats this project vehicle?

http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u339/kcimb/Ferret2_3kembleTROWBRIDGE1.jpg

TXNSLighting
08-21-2008, 12:33 PM
wow... thats some project vehicle...intentions?

MarcSmith
08-21-2008, 12:39 PM
wow... thats some project vehicle...intentions?

gonna try to threaten the hurricanes..:)or turn it into an amphibian and invade cuba

lyube
08-21-2008, 12:46 PM
wow... thats some project vehicle...intentions?

Need an economical daily driver.

Can a gooseneck be used to haul lawn equipment too? Probably be a step up from what I use now, even if it isn't optimal :laugh: I've never seen anyone use one except for tractors and backhoes.

TXNSLighting
08-21-2008, 01:30 PM
Need an economical daily driver.

Can a gooseneck be used to haul lawn equipment too? Probably be a step up from what I use now, even if it isn't optimal :laugh: I've never seen anyone use one except for tractors and backhoes.

ive actually seen many lco's use goosenecks.

economical huh?? how bout a cummins powered jeep! thats economical!

TomberLawn
08-21-2008, 10:43 PM
I saw a guy the other day with 2 Wright or Great Dane standers on it. That was probably overkill, but he probably had a tractor or something to haul on it too.

lyube
08-21-2008, 10:47 PM
ive actually seen many lco's use goosenecks.

economical huh?? how bout a cummins powered jeep! thats economical!

5.9 or 6.7?

5.9 would be a diesel miser. The engine and tranny alone have to weigh more than the rest of the vehicle combined. I bet it gets 25+ on the highway though!

If it's a 6.7 its gonna be a beast. I demand pics!

TomberLawn
08-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Here's the Jeep Rescue concept vehicle. I think they unveiled it in 2005, so this has the 5.9. If they made it now, it would have the 6.7 for emissions.

FosterLawnscaping
08-22-2008, 06:27 PM
I hauled 7 tons of those big concrete blocks on my old 14k gooseneck that weighed another 4k my 05 F-250 5.4 with 3.73 and it pulled fine. You knew it was back there though. Worst part was stopping. My 1 ton dodge with 6.7 grossed right around 26k yesterday with a load of rough cut for a garage....not a problem. Elmo even hung onto the grill for the ride.

TXNSLighting
08-22-2008, 06:44 PM
5.9 or 6.7?

5.9 would be a diesel miser. The engine and tranny alone have to weigh more than the rest of the vehicle combined. I bet it gets 25+ on the highway though!

If it's a 6.7 its gonna be a beast. I demand pics!

Neither! 4BT bud! 4 cyl cummins. very super efficient with plenty of power for a jeep! Thats my future setup.

TXNSLighting
08-22-2008, 06:45 PM
Here's the Jeep Rescue concept vehicle. I think they unveiled it in 2005, so this has the 5.9. If they made it now, it would have the 6.7 for emissions.

you wont see a 5.9 or a 6.7 in a jeep. too heavy... come on now.:hammerhead:

TandM
08-22-2008, 08:47 PM
me personally can not wait for the new 09 diesels in the half tons. I also want to see some economical 4cylinder diesels in the colorados/canyons and in the rangers and daks.

TomberLawn
08-22-2008, 10:27 PM
you wont see a 5.9 or a 6.7 in a jeep. too heavy... come on now.:hammerhead:

Hey, I didn't invent that thing, Jeep did. They never made this vehicle, but the prototype did have a 5.9 Cummins. Check out the trucktrend.com article here: http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/163_0407_2005_jeep_rescue_concept/engine_interior.html

Junior M
08-22-2008, 11:26 PM
I hauled 7 tons of those big concrete blocks on my old 14k gooseneck that weighed another 4k my 05 F-250 5.4 with 3.73 and it pulled fine. You knew it was back there though. Worst part was stopping. My 1 ton dodge with 6.7 grossed right around 26k yesterday with a load of rough cut for a garage....not a problem. Elmo even hung onto the grill for the ride.
can we say deckover gooseneck? btw nice truck...

lyube
08-22-2008, 11:35 PM
Neither! 4BT bud! 4 cyl cummins. very super efficient with plenty of power for a jeep! Thats my future setup.


There's some guy over on AR15.com that's doing the same thing. Imagine the torque.

How big is it physicaly? If it'll fit a jeep it'll fit a tacoma. Pure WIN! What's the project cost so far?

Gravel Rat
08-22-2008, 11:42 PM
That load that Foster Landscaping has on the Dodge and trailer I used to carry all in one load on my F-450s.

For where I go if you can't get the whole load on the truck you will have to make 2 trips. There is no way you would get a truck and trailer into any building site even a 4x4 wouldn't have the traction.

TXNSLighting
08-23-2008, 12:05 AM
There's some guy over on AR15.com that's doing the same thing. Imagine the torque.

How big is it physicaly? If it'll fit a jeep it'll fit a tacoma. Pure WIN! What's the project cost so far?

Well i recently found a jeep for about 3k. I will bed liner the interior, and all that. I just need to find a 4bt. im guessing...10ish?? I may tackle this this winter. Ill let ya know.

GravelyNut
08-24-2008, 12:12 AM
I hauled 7 tons of those big concrete blocks on my old 14k gooseneck that weighed another 4k my 05 F-250 5.4 with 3.73 and it pulled fine. You knew it was back there though. Worst part was stopping. My 1 ton dodge with 6.7 grossed right around 26k yesterday with a load of rough cut for a garage....not a problem. Elmo even hung onto the grill for the ride.

I see a ticket waiting to happen if you were down here.

Even Cut Lawn Care
08-24-2008, 01:28 AM
I see a ticket waiting to happen if you were down here.

For what?:confused:

GravelyNut
08-24-2008, 09:48 AM
For what?:confused:
Appears to be 5 bolt rims on the trailer so likely a 10K trailer. It isn't his 7 ton gooseneck. 26K - 10K = 16K load on the truck. Plus the tongue weight. Rear axle is rated for how much? Scales would likely say that axle is over its limit.
I've seen the local DOT cops check tongue weights. If there isn't 9K on the trailer tires and 900# on the tongue, improper loading. 10K on the trailer tires and 1K on the tongue equals overloaded trailer. Would need to see the trailer GVWR, truck GVWR, GCWR, and axle ratings but a DOT cop would sure look close at it. Most Dodge 1 tons are rated at 24K GCWR. And if it was all legal, then start looking for something else to ticket for.

Even Cut Lawn Care
08-24-2008, 02:37 PM
Appears to be 5 bolt rims on the trailer so likely a 10K trailer. It isn't his 7 ton gooseneck. 26K - 10K = 16K load on the truck. Plus the tongue weight. Rear axle is rated for how much? Scales would likely say that axle is over its limit.
I've seen the local DOT cops check tongue weights. If there isn't 9K on the trailer tires and 900# on the tongue, improper loading. 10K on the trailer tires and 1K on the tongue equals overloaded trailer. Would need to see the trailer GVWR, truck GVWR, GCWR, and axle ratings but a DOT cop would sure look close at it. Most Dodge 1 tons are rated at 24K GCWR. And if it was all legal, then start looking for something else to ticket for.

How can you possibly tell how many lug nuts are on the trailer?

FosterLawnscaping
08-26-2008, 06:54 PM
It's a 12k trailer with 8 lugs. thats 5 fingers on one hand and 3 on the other. 5+3=8. Trailer axles are 7k each and tires add up to 14000 pounds. Why the manufacturer tagged it 12k I don't know. Truck is registered at 14000gvw and 28000 gcwr.