View Full Version : Skipping Customers - What do you do?
Jason Pallas
01-28-2002, 07:15 PM
I'd just like to get some input on what other companies do about customers that call up and want to skip service for a week (that ultimately becomes a chronic every two-week thing!).
Our policy is as follows: If we miss your lawn due to something under our control (labor, equipment problems, etc...), we don't charge for the week's service. If lawn or portion thereof can't be cut, due to something beyond our control (pets in the yard, car blocking driveway, workman at the house. etc..) we still charge full price. We do, of course, don't charge a customer if they call up and tell us to skip within 24 hrs of their normal service day. However, we do get customers that start to abuse the "skip" policy and call and cancel service every-other week during the summer/slow grow months.
For those customers we explain that we allow every customer 4 skips per season - after that, they can still skip - but they'll be charged. What are some of the other Lawnsite.com guys policies? Always looking for new/different perspectives.
Thanks
Originally posted by Jason Pallas
I'd just like to get some input on what other companies do about customers that call up and want to skip service for a week (that ultimately becomes a chronic every two-week thing!).
Our policy is as follows: If we miss your lawn due to something under our control (labor, equipment problems, etc...), we don't charge for the week's service. If lawn or portion thereof can't be cut, due to something beyond our control (pets in the yard, car blocking driveway, workman at the house. etc..) we still charge full price. We do, of course, don't charge a customer if they call up and tell us to skip within 24 hrs of their normal service day. However, we do get customers that start to abuse the "skip" policy and call and cancel service every-other week during the summer/slow grow months.
For those customers we explain that we allow every customer 4 skips per season - after that, they can still skip - but they'll be charged. What are some of the other Lawnsite.com guys policies? Always looking for new/different perspectives.
Thanks
My customers get whatever they want.
However I can only do so many lawns. they could get droped if I have to much to do.
And they know this!
BRIAN GALLO
01-28-2002, 07:40 PM
When customers start trying to skip, I tell them that skipping results in me getting off schedule and if it continues I don't know when I can get you back on schedule. I tell them that I wont come out and cut if the lawn isn't growing, but to let me please decide. They usually understand and let me keep them on a steady schedule.
Lawn-Scapes
01-28-2002, 08:12 PM
I just started using contracts this season and this is what it says:
Lawn Maintenance: TSG Property Maintenance Co. will maintain the lawn on an as needed basis during the season (April 1st - November 30th). In the event of inclement weather, TSG Property Maintenance Co. will reschedule the visit as soon as possible, and regularly scheduled visits will resume. In the event of drought conditions, TSG Property Maintenance Co. will use its judgment as to whether or not turf needs cutting.
So.. I tell them based on the average for the last couple of years that they will receive "X" amount of cuts give or take one cut. The minimum is 28.. most average 30 and some I charge for 32 and tell them that the 2 extra cuts are for the extra time it will take to chop up some leaves...
No one is having a problem with it :)
Turfdude
01-28-2002, 10:13 PM
Being in a "transition" area, we are affected by droughts in July and/or August. As long as the client calls us the day before - no problem if the grass is truly dormant, or just growing very s l o w l y. This way, I 'm not paying guys to drive around and not work, and I can schedule other pruning, and/or landscape work. The majority of my properties are irrigated, so this is not a big concern. Besides, during the summer, my senior staff members generally schedule some vacation, so missing a few won't kill us.
KirbysLawn
01-28-2002, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Jason Pallas
I'd just like to get some input on what other companies do about customers that call up and want to skip service for a week (that ultimately becomes a chronic every two-week thing!).
Contracts.
Twotoros
01-29-2002, 03:10 PM
I have an elderly lady that always does this. She has a problem lawn but if skipped is to long in 2 weeks. I would not mind half as much if she called and saved me the trip. Last year I raised her price 4 bucks thinking it would scare her off. No luck. She got me down to 20 cuts last season. That is 11 short of my average and I feel she would be better served with 28.This season she is getting put on monday and will fall into the I don't give a crap catergory. However I do get to fertilize and areate and she did generate over 600$. If I had time I would do her every 10 days.
To answer the question policies don't work here . Nobody else has them and when I try and put my foot down I usually lose the customer.
Lawn-Scapes
01-29-2002, 03:17 PM
If I had time I would do her every 10 days.
Oh you would huh...? :D
Sorry that just reads funny...
65hoss
01-29-2002, 03:41 PM
I make it very clear that it is on an as needed basis, but at my discretion. If I leave it up to them I get burned. After you do them a time or two you kinda learn the individual lawn. I am doing a letter to all existing and kept customers that I will refresh their memory on this policy.
LAWNGODFATHER
01-29-2002, 04:04 PM
I don't get that very often, we use our own judment of weather it needs it are not.
I/we don't cut a lawn that does not need to be mowed.
Most don't get skipped at all in a normal season.
Keep in mind that I think every one will or has said the "LCO's judgment" not the "customers".
kutnkru
01-29-2002, 04:27 PM
Just figure up your average number of cuts put them on a monthly contract and then cut as little as they'd like you to. This usually takes care of the penny pinching.
Clients are made aware that this is a business agreement and if they cannot afford our minimum services we understand. Then I recommend them to another contractor who they can afford that should provide them with 2 cuttings here and 3-4 cuttings there, when they are 5-6 cut months.
You are in a business and know what you need to make from each client. If they cannot comply then there is no point in wasting anyones time.
Fantasy Lawns
01-29-2002, 04:41 PM
we don't have that issue around here .... but we do monthly billing .... same $$ 12 months a year .... n if they ask for just summer service we charge a premium
landscaper3
01-29-2002, 10:55 PM
We are mostly commercial but we do maintain around 50 or so residential homes, our policy is they call up to be skipped thats fine but they wont be done till next scheduled maintenance and if they want us to skip a week then call telling us it needs a cut off the regular schedule there is a service fee attached as an extra charge. If they call many times throughout season to miss we raise fees (1) to deture this (2) skipped weeks makes longer grass and more labor intesive. If we get to a job and they say miss this week we tell them its a $50.00 lawn but we were not contacted and there will be a $25.00 service charge! This stops that real fast and if they get upset we tell them this is our policy and feel free to find another LCO and thank you for your business and BYBY!
JimLewis
01-29-2002, 11:13 PM
I do the same thing that Steve (theleven) said. We NEVER have anyone call and ask us to skip. They all know they'd pay the same price anyway.
And I guess it depends on your climate and customer base. If you are in an area where you get a lot of drought in the summer and your clients don't water their lawn, I don't know if there's much you can do.
On the other hand, if possible, LCOs should focus on upper-middle to upper class neighborhoods where most people either water their lawn regularly or have an irrigation system. When your clientel is like this, and you are fertilizing well, they'll always want you to be cutting every week.
turfinator
01-30-2002, 05:37 AM
Ive always had all of my residentials prepay at the beginning of the month. This avoided any weeks being skipped. Ive also never had any complaints when this was brought up with new customers.
JimLewis
01-30-2002, 11:16 AM
That's a great idea, turfinator.
Only potential problem is that if someone doesn't pay on time, you lose a customer, at least until they pay. That still kinda sucks.
Twotoros
01-30-2002, 01:17 PM
TSG, I guess I should read my own posts :eek: maybe if she was forty every 10 days would be ok.
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