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r_d337
09-09-2008, 01:09 AM
I have an oppertunity to buy a 2004 Dodge 3500 SLT Cummins Diesel, its a 4 door short box. The truck is in great shape inside and out, the only problem is it has 350,000 km (about 217,000 miles). He wants 10 grand for it. Around here that is a pretty good deal. My only concern is in the amount of mileage the truck has on it.

Dodge owners, how many miles are you guys getting on your trucks before needing any major repairs.

TXNSLighting
09-09-2008, 10:11 AM
engine wise. come on its a cummins. truck wise i would be a little leary.

r_d337
09-09-2008, 01:57 PM
anyone else?

TXNSLighting
09-09-2008, 04:11 PM
Tell them to pull a service history on the truck. that will tell you more about it. My dodge started falling apart at 35k, but thats just mine. not all will do that.

Evan528
09-09-2008, 04:51 PM
I have an 03 ram 3500 with the cummins and not so sure I would buy another. Needed new ball joints at 38,000 miles (dosnt plow). New water pump at 46,000 miles. The cummins motor has also been a night mare. The truck now has 53,000 miles and has been in for fuel system related problems 7 times in the last 2 years. Injectors have been replaced twice..... 2 new fuel pumps... a new injector pump etc. Not the reliability I was expecting in a "heavy duty" truck. Not sure If I will be able to afford to keep this truck after the 7/100,000 mile power train warranty runs out. It has already saved me thousands.

razor1
09-09-2008, 05:04 PM
Prices must've really dropped on those. I saw one recently, very clean, 4X4, diesel, 20k miles, sell at auction for about $15k. So I'd probably keep looking.

cowboytim
09-09-2008, 09:30 PM
I have that same truck for a daily drive and have 265,000 on it no mayor problems. Do maintain it and it will run for a long time.

Gravel Rat
09-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Where in the h*ll was that truck driven to get 350,000kms on it and the truck is only a 2004. Something sounds fishy I would see if the truck is from Alberta it might be a ex oil fields truck.

I wouldn't touch a truck with 350,000kms especially a Dodge. The Cummins life span is usually 350,000kms if its a B.C. truck. As for paying 10 grand somebody is looking for a sucker.

If you are in B.C. there is lots of trucks on dealers lots for better deals than that. Ugly Trucks Unlimited has lots of used trucks forsale.

KTM
09-09-2008, 11:49 PM
Gravel Rat that is a lot of miles but many people put that many miles on trucks, as a matter of fact my wife puts more miles on than that in A year. I would not buy it but it would sell for that or more around here as long as it was taken care of. I have seen older 12 valve duallys bring that much or more. I know a guy that buys these as daily drivers and he drive more than that, and hardly ever pulls a trailer, You just never now, more than likely it has been worked.

r_d337
09-10-2008, 12:04 AM
thanx for the replies. It is a ex oil field truck, used to check well sites and such, so it is mostly highway km. My buddy who owns it is a mechanic and he says that it is in really good shape. Another perk is it has a bunch of high performance goodies on it, so it gets over 400 hp and about 25 miles to the gallon

Gravel Rat
09-10-2008, 12:18 AM
The average person from B.C. puts 24,000kms (15,000 miles) a year on a vehical you don't drive far when you live in B.C. . It takes almost 6 hours to drive from Vancouver (West Coast) to the Alberta/BC border which is about 351 mile. It takes 8.5 hours to get from Vancouver to Prince George about 488 miles.

A 2004 Truck with 350,000kms would be putting on 240kms 149 miles 365 days a year.

That is alot of driving it takes me 3 days to put on 240kms driving to work and back.

TXNSLighting
09-10-2008, 12:27 AM
thanx for the replies. It is a ex oil field truck, used to check well sites and such, so it is mostly highway km. My buddy who owns it is a mechanic and he says that it is in really good shape. Another perk is it has a bunch of high performance goodies on it, so it gets over 400 hp and about 25 miles to the gallon

Well no deal now.

westsweeper4
09-10-2008, 12:41 AM
would you be interested in the bridge i have for sale?

sorry but there is no way that truck gets 25 mpg. and i would like to see the guys wife that drives more miles than that in a year

r_d337
09-10-2008, 01:53 AM
25 miles per gallons is what the fuel usage gauge in the truck generally says when going down the highway, for all around use, yes i highly doubt it would get that kinda of economy. However being chipped and straight piped and a variety of other mods it definitly gets better then average economy.

The reason this truck has so many miles, is it was driven all day everday. This is very common mileage around here for trucks comming from the oilfield.

I have still yet to here from other dodge owners that have trucks with this kinda of mileage.

KTM
09-10-2008, 09:01 AM
My wifes 06 Chev has almost 190k some people have to drive for A living for there job, some days she will go through almost two tanks of gas.

TXNSLighting
09-10-2008, 12:00 PM
25 miles per gallons is what the fuel usage gauge in the truck generally says when going down the highway, for all around use, yes i highly doubt it would get that kinda of economy. However being chipped and straight piped and a variety of other mods it definitly gets better then average economy.

The reason this truck has so many miles, is it was driven all day everday. This is very common mileage around here for trucks comming from the oilfield.

I have still yet to here from other dodge owners that have trucks with this kinda of mileage.

you can expect 20ish outta that. oil field trucks are ragged out. especially having a chip and all that. just pass on it.

Gravel Rat
09-10-2008, 08:21 PM
The thing is probably bagged. You would be looking at rebuilding ever part of the suspension, the body is shaken itself apart.

Keep looking for a better truck.

prizeprop
09-10-2008, 10:23 PM
I have a 2ooo gas dodge and it has 200,000 mi on it,runs great.However, the truck itself is feeling very old and not tight anymore.

nosparkplugs
09-10-2008, 10:53 PM
If the truck has been maintained properly, and is in good working order it could be a good buy. I would be very cautious, drive it several times take it to a diesel mechanic to look over it.

nosparkplugs
09-10-2008, 11:17 PM
I have an 03 ram 3500 with the cummins and not so sure I would buy another. Needed new ball joints at 38,000 miles (dosnt plow). New water pump at 46,000 miles. The cummins motor has also been a night mare. The truck now has 53,000 miles and has been in for fuel system related problems 7 times in the last 2 years. Injectors have been replaced twice..... 2 new fuel pumps... a new injector pump etc. Not the reliability I was expecting in a "heavy duty" truck. Not sure If I will be able to afford to keep this truck after the 7/100,000 mile power train warranty runs out. It has already saved me thousands.

Reading that makes me want to cry, I have worked,towed hauled, the crap out of my 02 71,456 miles to date, and have had zero problems. Did you purchase the truck new? Did you get some water in your diesel fuel?, Somethings fishy? to cause all those fuel system failure's that is not typical of a Cummins 5.9L; glad to see you have the warranty to cover the repair costs. Maybe you need a Duramax or Powerstoke with that history.

Many years ago I learned to avoid the dealers period, I do all my routine maintinance on my trucks minus a total rebuild, I have owned GM 6.2/6.5, and the Powerstroke 7.3, the Cummins 5.9L is buy far the easiest diesel to maintain, and the inline 6 makes for plenty of room under the hood.

Most folks do not run a diesel fuel condition/lubricant or a Cetane boost. While diesel fuel additives cannot prevent all fuel system problems. IMO diesel fuel additives are like car insurance, you gotta have insurance, but you hope you never need to use it. I do not trust the oil compaines with my Diesel engine's fuel lubricant needs.

IA_James
09-10-2008, 11:19 PM
It doesn't get 25 mpg. The computer thinks it does, because they've got boost foolers, duration, timing, and pressure changes for the injectors. What it boils down to is that to make that extra power, they trick the computer. And one of the things they trick in the computer is the overhead mileage dealio.

Evan528
09-11-2008, 12:03 AM
nosparkplugs, I did buy my dodge new. Great truck for the first 3 years then bam...one problem after another. Its been sugested to me that I use "power service" diesel additive since the new ULSD dosnt lubricate well enough. I am going to give it a shot.

Based on all hype I was expecting to get 200,000+ trouble free miles out of the cummins.
Maybe I got a lemon. Who knows. Sure has put a bad taste in my mouth either way.

Gravel Rat
09-11-2008, 12:15 AM
A truck from the Alberta oil fields sees a tough life. Those trucks are in mud and rough ground usually driven at highway speeds on dirt roads.

The truck maybe a 2004 but its got the wear and tear it is already 10 years old.

People here have bought trucks from Alberta they have 100lbs of mud stuck in the frame. The brakes need complete rebuilding front to back. Ball joints are shot the suspension is shot.

Not worth it.

davis45
09-11-2008, 12:33 AM
My 1999 2500 4x4 has around 265,000 on her. Great truck.

Its on the second tranny, and i'm getting ready for new ball joints and power steering. I will be buying a new Cummins after this one gets 300k on it. I love these trucks.

TXNSLighting
09-11-2008, 01:29 AM
My 1999 2500 4x4 has around 265,000 on her. Great truck.

Its on the second tranny, and i'm getting ready for new ball joints and power steering. I will be buying a new Cummins after this one gets 300k on it. I love these trucks.

I wouldnt buy a new one. the 6.7's are starting to get the reputation of the 03/04 6.0's powerstrokes...There have been alota buy backs in my area. The 5.9 is the only way to go.

davis45
09-11-2008, 01:48 AM
I wouldnt buy a new one. the 6.7's are starting to get the reputation of the 03/04 6.0's powerstrokes...There have been alota buy backs in my area. The 5.9 is the only way to go.


My bad I shouldn't have said 'new' haha, should have said a newer one with lower miles. I have never bought a brand new truck and I never plan on it. I 100% agree with you, 5.9 is the only way to go.

TXNSLighting
09-11-2008, 11:05 AM
My bad I shouldn't have said 'new' haha, should have said a newer one with lower miles. I have never bought a brand new truck and I never plan on it. I 100% agree with you, 5.9 is the only way to go.

Yeh if i were to get one it would be an 07 5.9. Just keep buying those every few years. ha!

retrodog
09-11-2008, 10:52 PM
Hey, I just sold my 04 with 112000 miles for $16000 (the white one), and bought an 07 mega cab 4x4 with 28000 miles for $26500. Saw a 2007 mega cab with 15000 sell for $23400 in Sherman Tx the other day. There is no way I would buy anything but an 18 wheeler with over 200000 miles....hope this helps.

Duke9590
09-12-2008, 02:12 PM
Just forget the idea of a dodge and look for a ford. Plus way to many miles to buy a truck for 10k, plus the fact that it is a dodge.

TXNSLighting
09-12-2008, 11:16 PM
Hey, I just sold my 04 with 112000 miles for $16000 (the white one), and bought an 07 mega cab 4x4 with 28000 miles for $26500. Saw a 2007 mega cab with 15000 sell for $23400 in Sherman Tx the other day. There is no way I would buy anything but an 18 wheeler with over 200000 miles....hope this helps.

pictures??!!!

Hawg City Lawns
09-14-2008, 02:14 AM
149 miles a day isnt that much if you use it to work in everyday

Riley Lawn Service
09-14-2008, 02:30 AM
I have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Gas with a 5.9L 360 that gas mileage isn't all that great but overall it's a great truck i have had no problems with it so far. I bought it about 6 months ago with 79000 on it it now has around 81000 and i would bet money it will make it to at least 200000 without a new engine, and if the engine does shoot craps ill buy a new engine i love this truck. I mean come on its a Dodge! Thats it in my display pic.

retrodog
09-14-2008, 04:09 PM
pictures??!!!

Here you go man, my new cow hick truck. I put an AFE stage 2 cold air intake and a Diablo tuner (around $600) and now we are getting between 17 and 24mpg in it. I have a little 1500 chevy v8, and the dually is what we take everywhere now due to fuel savings.

nosparkplugs
09-14-2008, 06:07 PM
Retro Dog, Nice truck. The one major problem with the Mega Cab is no long box option. You need to send this truck to Utah for a Longbox conversion for the family & business trips would be a good write off. Couple more months of payments on the Walker MT, and I should be good to finish that deal we started on the BB AOS diesel


http://www.innovativecustoms.net/

Riley Lawn Service
09-14-2008, 09:06 PM
nice dodge i love the look of the 3500 megacabs i just wish you could get a long box on those things it makes it look like a lighter duty truck but still bad@$$ all in all.

TXNSLighting
09-15-2008, 12:29 AM
Yeh definately need to make it a long bed! Otherwise fantastic looking! The black mega cabs look the best! Makes that panel behind the back doors not look so big. It is a 5.9 right??!!

Riley Lawn Service
09-15-2008, 04:47 PM
i would bet that it is a 5.9 because its at least an 0, and if i remember right there 5.9's have been the most common and the newer ones you can get the 6.7 i think it is but its quite a bit more money and worse mileage so i think its prolly a 5.9

retrodog
09-16-2008, 09:39 AM
i would bet that it is a 5.9 because its at least an 0, and if i remember right there 5.9's have been the most common and the newer ones you can get the 6.7 i think it is but its quite a bit more money and worse mileage so i think its prolly a 5.9

Yeah, 2007.5 and up are 6.7's, and mine is a 5.9. I heard that 5.9 was the way to go right now, so this coudn't have been a better buy for me. To be honest I wasn't gonna get another big truck (not much use), but I couldn't pass it up, heck some 1500 4x4 new were priced more than I paid for this truck. I am so glad I got it, just found out my wifes pregnant, and the mega cab makes it a great cruiser for the family. Not to mention the nav system is great too (never thought I would use one). I have already had an offer for $29000, and it was hard not to take it and find something else.

Riley Lawn Service
09-17-2008, 12:10 PM
retro if you really want to save on fuel costs i have a site that you are practically required to check out go to http://freedomfuelamerica.com/ and they sell a machine for like 200 that you can use old cooking oil from mcdonalds or wherever and and make dieseil fuel for about 70 cents a gallon! check it out

TXNSLighting
09-17-2008, 01:57 PM
Yeah, 2007.5 and up are 6.7's, and mine is a 5.9. I heard that 5.9 was the way to go right now, so this coudn't have been a better buy for me. To be honest I wasn't gonna get another big truck (not much use), but I couldn't pass it up, heck some 1500 4x4 new were priced more than I paid for this truck. I am so glad I got it, just found out my wifes pregnant, and the mega cab makes it a great cruiser for the family. Not to mention the nav system is great too (never thought I would use one). I have already had an offer for $29000, and it was hard not to take it and find something else.

Im glad you found a 5.9! Those are hard to find now... the 6.7's suck! There have been a whole lotta buy backs in my area.

mag360
09-17-2008, 08:20 PM
retro if you really want to save on fuel costs i have a site that you are practically required to check out go to http://freedomfuelamerica.com/ and they sell a machine for like 200 that you can use old cooking oil from mcdonalds or wherever and and make dieseil fuel for about 70 cents a gallon! check it out

I modified the fuel system on one of our trucks to run on the straight WVO without converting it to Bio. You can save some real $$$ on a road trip.

retrodog
09-18-2008, 12:26 PM
retro if you really want to save on fuel costs i have a site that you are practically required to check out go to http://freedomfuelamerica.com/ and they sell a machine for like 200 that you can use old cooking oil from mcdonalds or wherever and and make dieseil fuel for about 70 cents a gallon! check it out

I would be scared to try it in something new, but if I had an older unit I would be all for it

Riley Lawn Service
09-19-2008, 02:12 AM
they showed the system on tv about a year ago and aside from making your truck's exhaust smell like a french fry it works great in fact it's sposed to create more power than normal diesel! if only i had a diesel i would do it myself

Eclipse
09-19-2008, 10:46 PM
they showed the system on tv about a year ago and aside from making your truck's exhaust smell like a french fry it works great in fact it's sposed to create more power than normal diesel! if only i had a diesel i would do it myself

Biodiesel may have a higher cetane rating but it has less BTU's than #2. Less BTU means less energy and less MPG's.

The numbers will vary a bit depending on the quality of #2 and the type of veggie oil that the bio is made from.

TXNSLighting
09-20-2008, 06:29 PM
they showed the system on tv about a year ago and aside from making your truck's exhaust smell like a french fry it works great in fact it's sposed to create more power than normal diesel! if only i had a diesel i would do it myself

Its not going to make em faster.

casco73
09-20-2008, 08:19 PM
I have an 03 ram 3500 with the cummins and not so sure I would buy another. Needed new ball joints at 38,000 miles (dosnt plow). New water pump at 46,000 miles. The cummins motor has also been a night mare. The truck now has 53,000 miles and has been in for fuel system related problems 7 times in the last 2 years. Injectors have been replaced twice..... 2 new fuel pumps... a new injector pump etc. Not the reliability I was expecting in a "heavy duty" truck. Not sure If I will be able to afford to keep this truck after the 7/100,000 mile power train warranty runs out. It has already saved me thousands.

If you've had more than 3 problems of the same type on a vehicle it time to
talk to a lemon law lawyer