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Brickwall
09-19-2008, 12:07 PM
Working on bidding out a 60+Acre property. I have to come up with hrly/rate.

The machine I am interested in purchasing is a new Jacobson 5111 new for $45,000. It will be a 2 year contract and I am confident that I can find other smaller jobs to keep it busy for the remaining week.
Does anyone have a sure method of of coming up with a good rate that will make me top $???????

MnDLawn
09-19-2008, 12:22 PM
Well, an Exmark Lazer Z will do 6 acres per hour, not sure what yours will do. So that's 10 hours, plus 1 for the unknown. So let say 11 hours, I charge $60 per hour. So you are looking right around $650-700 with a one man crew. We get about 12 mows per year if you do it on a 10-14 day basis. So that is $8400 per year, and you are looking at 2 years for a grand total of $16,800 (that's gross not net). Just my 2 cents.

MnDLawn
09-19-2008, 12:30 PM
Just looked up the Jacobsen HR-5111 and it does 10.2 acres per hour.

1cooltreeguy
09-19-2008, 01:05 PM
$120 per hour - 10.2 acres an hour will be more like 9.5 factoring in turns,etc.....I have 2 wam and that is what I try to get for the mower per hour

larryinalabama
09-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Well, an Exmark Lazer Z will do 6 acres per hour, not sure what yours will do. So that's 10 hours, plus 1 for the unknown. So let say 11 hours, I charge $60 per hour. So you are looking right around $650-700 with a one man crew. We get about 12 mows per year if you do it on a 10-14 day basis. So that is $8400 per year, and you are looking at 2 years for a grand total of $16,800 (that's gross not net). Just my 2 cents.

It would seem to me that the 40k mower would loose 16800$ in value in 2 years.

I dont think the feller is going to make any money unless he can get 4 to five propertys that size

1cooltreeguy
09-19-2008, 01:26 PM
It would seem to me that the 40k mower would loose 16800$ in value in 2 years.

I dont think the feller is going to make any money unless he can get 4 to five propertys that size

I agree with you - He sure will need to get several 3-4 properties this size to really make some $$. Good Luck

MnDLawn
09-19-2008, 01:40 PM
It would seem to me that the 40k mower would loose 16800$ in value in 2 years.

That's what I was thinking. He would probably be better off buying a good used unit.

1cooltreeguy
09-19-2008, 01:44 PM
That's what I was thinking. He would probably be better off buying a good used unit.

Thats what I did and it worked out great - very reliable....:usflag:

howierd3866
09-19-2008, 03:04 PM
here my $.02 ..we got two 72in. Huslters kicking some grass at about $10k each and also New Holland TN75 cab4x4 with 12ft rhino finish mower at about $48k...with out the a/c the one huslter will out mow the TN75 just have to load it up after each job where as the TN75 can be driven to the next job in a/c..we do alot of large areas 14 tractors total but in the finish mowing area the HUSLTER is the one

hackitdown
09-19-2008, 04:12 PM
here my $.02 ..we got two 72in. Huslters kicking some grass at about $10k each and also New Holland TN75 cab4x4 with 12ft rhino finish mower at about $48k...with out the a/c the one huslter will out mow the TN75 just have to load it up after each job where as the TN75 can be driven to the next job in a/c..we do alot of large areas 14 tractors total but in the finish mowing area the HUSLTER is the one

This looks like the best suggestion. If you can cut 6 acres in an hr with a $10K 72" ZTR, you could easily do it with 1 guy on 1 mower in 2 days. Or buy 2 mowers, maybe a 72" and a 52" (to be more easily used on smaller properties) and do it in 1 day. Go all out and get diesels or whatever. Still way less risky than a $45K batwing. You can use the ZTRs on other work, and sell them easily if you lose the work.

You can spend $20K on 2 ZTRs and bill at $60/hr each...and way easier to find work to keep them busy. So $20K to bill $120/hr...or spend $45K on a WAM to bill $120/hr.

shawn d
09-19-2008, 05:09 PM
If you have your heart set on a WAM heres one I found on ebay that looks like a pretty good deal to me. http://cgi.ebay.com/Jacobsen-9016-Turbo-16-ft-Rotary-Mower-WAM-Diesel-4x4_W0QQitemZ170261486761QQihZ007QQcategoryZ50377QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

lawnwizards
09-19-2008, 07:46 PM
Working on bidding out a 60+Acre property. I have to come up with hrly/rate.

The machine I am interested in purchasing is a new Jacobson 5111 new for $45,000. It will be a 2 year contract and I am confident that I can find other smaller jobs to keep it busy for the remaining week.
Does anyone have a sure method of of coming up with a good rate that will make me top $???????

60 acres at 20 per = 1200 per cut times that by how many cuts you will get in a year. are you cutting weekly or EOW? anyway, weekly you will probably get atleast 24-28 cuts equaling 28800-33600 or if you are EOW you will get 12-14 cuts equaling 14400-16800. weekly would probably be worth buying a WAM. not too sure about EOW though.