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AndyTblc
09-25-2008, 09:47 AM
I'm going to go look at this truck today, a 2003 Chevy 1500HD LS, 120,000 miles. The price is set at $13,000. My neighbor knows a sales manager at the dealership, so I can get it for less, I just want some input. My mom said she'd buy my truck, since my mom and dad don't have a truck, she said it'd be nice to have a truck, (plus she likes driving it better then her van). Let me know if you'd buy it or stay away from it.
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TXNSLighting
09-25-2008, 11:46 AM
Looks fine to me...Not enough info on it. Get some history on it. Wrecks, repairs, and such.

AndyTblc
09-25-2008, 12:58 PM
I went and checked it out, beautiful truck, supper clean, no scratches, not even in the bed. The last owner was a smoker. Engine runs great. It looks like it was very well taken care of, I'm going to go back next week and talk a little more about it. I've did some reviews and read that this year of the 1500HD's were pretty good trucks. But I will get some more information on it next week.

FDuce
09-25-2008, 02:10 PM
I would guess that you could do way better (one with less miles) for $13k. Being that it had been smoked in (you will NEVER get that smell out) and has 120k mi, I wouldn't touch it for more than $10k out the door. You can figure you will have to sell it within 40k miles since it will be towards the end of it's life span (or have to re-engine/new tranny).

punt66
09-25-2008, 02:16 PM
to many miles.

davis45
09-25-2008, 02:21 PM
We bought one just like it to pull our Motocross trailer, 8.5 x 28 enclosed, same year and everything. 6.0 engine. We bought it fairly new, around 35k miles? We sold it last year with 126k miles and all we every did was regular maintenance. Dealer gave us $13k on a trade in and they sold it for $14,600. Loved the truck, no complaints.

dura to the max
09-25-2008, 03:35 PM
i think you can get a lot more truck for less money than that. i would advide to be careful about buying a truck with your parents like that though...in my experience it doesnt work out too well.

DBFlawn
09-25-2008, 04:58 PM
My neighbor has the same exact truck down the street from me, same miles and everything. It runs like a top never had a problem with it and wouldnt be affraid to deive it across the country tomarrow. but like someone else said. 13K is WAY TOO HIGH. 10 out the door is good.

DBF

TXNSLighting
09-25-2008, 07:11 PM
I went and checked it out, beautiful truck, supper clean, no scratches, not even in the bed. The last owner was a smoker. Engine runs great. It looks like it was very well taken care of, I'm going to go back next week and talk a little more about it. I've did some reviews and read that this year of the 1500HD's were pretty good trucks. But I will get some more information on it next week.

ehh smoker... Value went down 6k for me.

J&R Landscaping
09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Too many miles for that price.

AndyTblc
09-25-2008, 08:41 PM
The dealership did a great job covering it up, but I can smell cigarette smoke a mile away, it didn't really bother me today, but I don't know how it will be when I take it home after a week. But I talked to my neighbor who knows the manager and said he can maybe talk him down to 10. There were older trucks with less miles for a little more then what I want to spend. I'll give you guys the link and if you see something that I didn't see, then you can maybe point it out to me.
http://www.goodgmc.com/bargain-inventory/vehicle-details.htm?vehicleId=4856428a4046381e00db5b3fe433ec6f&useHistory=true

dura to the max
09-25-2008, 08:46 PM
the 1st pic on the website appears to show a large dent in the lower portion of the driver door. if so it is most definately priced to high (although i thought that from the get-go.)

Lawnworks
09-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Buy it from a private seller... you can get a better deal and save on sales tax.

punt66
09-25-2008, 09:19 PM
Buy it from a private seller... you can get a better deal and save on sales tax.

you still pay sales tax

Mike Blevins
09-25-2008, 09:34 PM
I bought a 04 4x4 extended cab 2500hd for 1500 less than that with 59000 miles. I would definatley keep looking.

Mike Blevins
09-25-2008, 09:37 PM
I bought a 04 4x4 extended cab 2500hd for 1500 less than that with 59000 miles. I would definatley keep looking.

Oh yeah I new the previous owner and the dealership put 4 new tires,new brakes all around, and performed the 60,000 mile service which was all fluids changed,new filters,and that year had a sterring shaft problem so they put in a new steering shaft. And recharged the air-conditioning. SO definaltety keep looking. Or I would make a really low offer.

AndyTblc
09-25-2008, 10:00 PM
the 1st pic on the website appears to show a large dent in the lower portion of the driver door. if so it is most definately priced to high (although i thought that from the get-go.)

I think that is a reflection off the parking lot, because when I completely looked the truck over, inside and out, there wasn't a single dent or scratch on the truck, and a dent is the first thing I would have noticed
you still pay sales tax

The bad thing about michigan, if I were to trade in my truck and get $4000, I still have to pay tax on the total amount I bought the truck from, not the remaining amount after trade in.

I bought a 04 4x4 extended cab 2500hd for 1500 less than that with 59000 miles. I would definatley keep looking. There was an 04 extended cab 2x4 next to this truck with 70,000 miles and they wanted $16,000.

TXNSLighting
09-25-2008, 10:08 PM
Buy it from a private seller... you can get a better deal and save on sales tax.

You still pay sales tax... If its in another state you dont tho.

TXNSLighting
09-25-2008, 10:10 PM
the 1st pic on the website appears to show a large dent in the lower portion of the driver door. if so it is most definately priced to high (although i thought that from the get-go.)

Man that is a dent!

AndyTblc
09-25-2008, 10:27 PM
Man that is a dent!

Thats a reflection from the pavement, if it was a dent, I wouldn't have even bothered pursuing the truck any farther at the car lot.

TXNSLighting
09-25-2008, 11:12 PM
Thats a reflection from the pavement, if it was a dent, I wouldn't have even bothered pursuing the truck any farther at the car lot.

Im saying they probably fixed it...

Lawnworks
09-26-2008, 07:44 AM
you still pay sales tax

Actually not in my state.

AndyTblc
09-26-2008, 08:50 AM
Actually not in my state.

What state is that?

TXNSLighting
09-26-2008, 01:18 PM
Yeh what state is this???

FDuce
09-26-2008, 02:15 PM
I was on the phone with my dad last night and he mentioned that the Ford dealer where he is (north east Pennsylvania) is selling brand new 2007 F150 4x4 extended cabs with the 5.4L for $15K.

Try autotrader, I did a quick search within 200mi from me and had about 60 results for '03+ Chevy 4x4 V-8 trucks with less than 45K miles and under $15K.

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 04:56 PM
in ga we dont have to pay sales tax up front when buying from a private seller. however it is eventually paid through taxes...

lawnworks was referring to ga.

Lawnworks
09-26-2008, 07:00 PM
in ga we dont have to pay sales tax up front when buying from a private seller. however it is eventually paid through taxes...

lawnworks was referring to ga.

Well... there is no sales tax b/t individuals. We pay advalorem tax either way. So you do save the 7%.

As far as buying it from a dealer... I think you could always find the same truck from a private seller for less.

punt66
09-26-2008, 07:02 PM
Well... there is no sales tax b/t individuals. We pay advalorem tax either way. So you do save the 7%.

As far as buying it from a dealer... I think you could always find the same truck from a private seller for less.


you pay sales tax when you go to register it.

Lawnworks
09-26-2008, 07:06 PM
you pay sales tax when you go to register it.

Actually I don't. I own 6 trucks and have owned probably 40 trucks in my lifetime... most of which I bought from individuals, and I have never paid sales tax. Sorry bud... you are wrong on this one. I don't live in a liberal dump of a state like you do.

punt66
09-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Actually I don't. I own 6 trucks and have owned probably 40 trucks in my lifetime... most of which I bought from individuals, and I have never paid sales tax. Sorry bud... you are wrong on this one. I don't live in a liberal dump of a state like you do.


well you havent admitted to what state you live in. And based on the maturity level of all your previous posts i DOUBT IT.

Lawnworks
09-26-2008, 07:25 PM
well you havent admitted to what state you live in. And based on the maturity level of all your previous posts i DOUBT IT.

Well I guess if you could read... you would know I live in GA.

punt66
09-26-2008, 07:40 PM
Well I guess if you could read... you would know I live in GA.


oh, where does it say that?

punt66
09-26-2008, 07:45 PM
according to GA department of revenue you pay sales tax at time of registration as i previously mentioned. many southern states dont have property taxes on motor vehicles which is probably what your talking about.

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 07:53 PM
according to GA department of revenue you pay sales tax at time of registration as i previously mentioned. many southern states dont have property taxes on motor vehicles which is probably what your talking about.

actually, i mentioned it...then YOU parroted it....:hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:

Lawnworks
09-26-2008, 09:58 PM
according to GA department of revenue you pay sales tax at time of registration as i previously mentioned. many southern states dont have property taxes on motor vehicles which is probably what your talking about.

Like I said, if it is from a dealer... you pay sales tax even if is from out of state. If it is a private sale b/t individuals, you don't pay sales tax. Ad valorem tax is not what I am talking about... we do have to pay that on any vehicle.

sven1277
09-26-2008, 10:22 PM
I'm looking at a '99 chevy 3500 dump with a 5.7l, ac, plow, new tires and a plow for $14k. It drove great and looks pristine on the outside. Generally, I buy new, but I need 3rd truck for plowing this year and this looks like a good deal.

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 10:30 PM
what cab is it? 4x4?

sven1277
09-26-2008, 10:46 PM
reg cab and 4wd

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 10:51 PM
i wouldnt want a 5.7...they are a great motor (my work truck has that), no issues in over 200k miles, plenty of power, but its a gas hog. i would get a diesel if it were me...

i looked a 00 F-350 4x4 loaded crew cab w/ extras for under $10k. had 160k miles on it, which is nothing for that 7.3

sven1277
09-26-2008, 10:51 PM
I don't know how to add attachments but if you go to autotowne.com look at the middle of 3rd page of used trucks. Its white w/ a fisher

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 10:54 PM
just copy/paste the url (the address in the top line of the page)

AndyTblc
09-26-2008, 10:58 PM
i wouldnt want a 5.7...they are a great motor (my work truck has that), no issues in over 200k miles, plenty of power, but its a gas hog. i would get a diesel if it were me...


My 5.7 gets 18 on the Highway, 14 in the city, pulling my pop up camper on the high way for a trip, 14.6 MPG, and that included driving back and forth with the camper parked and driving to the marina a few miles away. So I do pretty good, but 220,000 miles, it will start nickle and dimeing me. My neighbor has an 02 2500HD diesel with under 100,000 miles, and he'd sell it for around 17k, but thats a little over what I wanted to spend. I checked with my insurance company today, and for the truck with full coverage, $740/6 months, on top of a $200 truck payment, when right now, PL/PD costs me $65/month and a $153 truck payment, up in june, so I may just wait a few more months and see what happens, I just spent a little money on my truck, new tires, ball joints, hub. So I'm starting to reconsider.

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 11:04 PM
My 5.7 gets 18 on the Highway, 14 in the city, pulling my pop up camper on the high way for a trip, 14.6 MPG, and that included driving back and forth with the camper parked and driving to the marina a few miles away. So I do pretty good, but 220,000 miles, it will start nickle and dimeing me. My neighbor has an 02 2500HD diesel with under 100,000 miles, and he'd sell it for around 17k, but thats a little over what I wanted to spend. I checked with my insurance company today, and for the truck with full coverage, $740/6 months, on top of a $200 truck payment, when right now, PL/PD costs me $65/month and a $153 truck payment, up in june, so I may just wait a few more months and see what happens, I just spent a little money on my truck, new tires, ball joints, hub. So I'm starting to reconsider.

that truck dont have the same gears as the one ton trucks w/ that motor. it also aint got the balls that mine has, mine tows 10k lbs, yours aint rated for that.

dont get me wrong, i love that body style chevy, 90's were some of the best years ever imo for chevy (wish they hadnt of discontinued that motor). but we're comparing apples to oranges.

dura to the max
09-26-2008, 11:05 PM
the prices on the trucks on autotowne.com seemed rather high as a general rule. around here we can get diesels cheaper than that.

sven1277
09-26-2008, 11:19 PM
Checking prices in he local truck trader magazine, it seems to be in the ball park

TandM
09-27-2008, 12:14 AM
price is high but that truck would do 200 thousand easy we gota 02 1500 5.3 extended with 212 thousand and it will beat all the new trucks if you race it. and it takes a beating. I would just keep your 99 gmc I love those trucks we got on 200000 and it runs great. why buy a new one?

punt66
09-27-2008, 05:10 AM
price is high but that truck would do 200 thousand easy we gota 02 1500 5.3 extended with 212 thousand and it will beat all the new trucks if you race it. and it takes a beating. I would just keep your 99 gmc I love those trucks we got on 200000 and it runs great. why buy a new one?


you buy new so you can use all the 200,000 miles not the last 60,000.

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 07:48 AM
And when you buy new you lose 5-10k when you drive it off the lot. Are you suggesting he finance a vehicle?

punt66
09-27-2008, 08:57 AM
And when you buy new you lose 5-10k when you drive it off the lot. Are you suggesting he finance a vehicle?


yes i am. I bought mine new in 07. The sticker was $37,000. I paid $23000 for the truck. You couldnt buy a used low mileage for that. I traded in my 06 pilot tword it that i bought my wife the year before. I stole that as well and earned money on the trade. You buy in the fall when they need to dump the leftovers and work them over.

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 07:01 PM
One of my mentors once told me never to never finance anything that depreciates... and it is great advice. Pouring money into vehicles is just stupid. Monthly payments suck... and you do not actually own that truck till you pay the last note... it is the bank's truck. Not to mention the interest you are pissing away.

Buying from a dealer is not a great idea as well. To find a great deal, it might take a month or two... but you can potentially save alot of money if you know how to negotiate.

punt66
09-27-2008, 09:06 PM
One of my mentors once told me never to never finance anything that depreciates... and it is great advice. Pouring money into vehicles is just stupid. Monthly payments suck... and you do not actually own that truck till you pay the last note... it is the bank's truck. Not to mention the interest you are pissing away.

Buying from a dealer is not a great idea as well. To find a great deal, it might take a month or two... but you can potentially save alot of money if you know how to negotiate.


with the dealer i recieved 1.9% and lifetime warranty on drivetrain.

AndyTblc
09-27-2008, 09:42 PM
with the dealer i recieved 1.9% and lifetime warranty on drivetrain.

I'm paying I think either 10 or 12%, because I had no credit when I got the loan for my truck now, I could easily pay off my truck right now, but since the 24 months ends in june I might as well just keep it and build credit. I wish I got 1.9%, if I could get that, I'd think about buying an almost new truck. I think I would buy a truck if I could get under $200/month for payments, but the insurance would kill me. I made up my mind, and decided to not purchase that truck, as much as I'd like to have that, I think it'd be smart of me to wait. The neighbor has an 02 Chevy 2500HD Ext. Cab Diesel. He said he is thinking about selling it in a few months and purchasing a newer truck, this truck has leather, which kind of makes me nervous with lawn mowing and construction work I do with the neighbor. But he keeps his truck in immaculate condition, under 90,000 miles, he said he'd give me a deal.

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 09:47 PM
I'm paying I think either 10 or 12%, because I had no credit when I got the loan for my truck now, I could easily pay off my truck right now, but since the 24 months ends in june I might as well just keep it and build credit. I wish I got 1.9%, if I could get that, I'd think about buying an almost new truck. I think I would buy a truck if I could get under $200/month for payments, but the insurance would kill me. I made up my mind, and decided to not purchase that truck, as much as I'd like to have that, I think it'd be smart of me to wait. The neighbor has an 02 Chevy 2500HD Ext. Cab Diesel. He said he is thinking about selling it in a few months and purchasing a newer truck, this truck has leather, which kind of makes me nervous with lawn mowing and construction work I do with the neighbor. But he keeps his truck in immaculate condition, under 90,000 miles, he said he'd give me a deal.


Yeah tell him a deal would be 12-13k. I bought my wife a 04 quad cab lt 4x4 gmc duramax w/ 90k for 15k cash.

I would get out of debt as quick as you can. Forget building your credit... that is a stupid myth. Build your savings account and invest in your business. I prefer to finance myself, but you can finance anything w/ 20% down.

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 09:49 PM
with the dealer i recieved 1.9% and lifetime warranty on drivetrain.

good lord... so you don't even own your truck! You could not write a check for 23k? I thought you said you were doing well????

punt66
09-27-2008, 10:08 PM
good lord... so you don't even own your truck! You could not write a check for 23k? I thought you said you were doing well????


you have alot to learn about money. My money earns me more than 1.9%

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 10:54 PM
you have alot to learn about money. My money earns me more than 1.9%

lol... yeah... What do you have all this money in?

punt66
09-27-2008, 10:55 PM
lol... yeah... as a solo operator I am sure you are just killing it w/ a car loan or two. That is hilarious!


not sure your point.

punt66
09-27-2008, 10:59 PM
But if you need to know, my solo operation supports my home, wife and daughter with enough leftover for toys and a vacation home. go figure. But your right. It is Funny.

Lawnworks
09-27-2008, 11:05 PM
But if you need to know, my solo operation supports my home, wife and daughter with enough leftover for toys and a vacation home. go figure. But your right. It is Funny.

Supports enough to finance your toys you mean... congrats!! I prefer not to have ANY payments. The titles are in a drawer at my house... not the bank's.

AndyTblc
09-27-2008, 11:13 PM
Yeah tell him a deal would be 12-13k. I bought my wife a 04 quad cab lt 4x4 gmc duramax w/ 90k for 15k cash.

I would get out of debt as quick as you can. Forget building your credit... that is a stupid myth. Build your savings account and invest in your business. I prefer to finance myself, but you can finance anything w/ 20% down.

my goal is to purchase a plow if I get a bigger truck, I think I would have a little more savings if I didn't have a truck payment, but right now I have more cash flow then I do savings. Gas, string, blades, insurance, truck, truck repair, camping, school, so it's kind of nice not taking a big chunk out of the savings, I have a big chunk of my savings in a CD until may. So financing is probly the best way right now, because my interest is only $560, I can handle that.

punt66
09-27-2008, 11:15 PM
Supports enough to finance your toys you mean... congrats!! I prefer not to have ANY payments. The titles are in a drawer at my house... not the bank's.

No my roadking, 66 mustang conv, 62 corvette, 66 cyclone gt, 84 mustang conv dont have notes. Neither does any of my equipment. By the way did your mentor ever teach you how to communicate with proffessionalism or humility. You could learn alot from people on this site instead of bashing people you may not agree with. Grow up kid. And if your not a kid then its too late for you.

TXNSLighting
09-28-2008, 12:07 AM
O the kid stuff...Actually its good to finance stuff. Ill take a great credit rating over paying cash for everything. Thats just good life. Im not saying get in horrible debt, but its good to be in some debt.

AndyTblc
09-28-2008, 12:16 AM
I don't mind being in debt, as long as I don't have to spend a ton of money right away, I'm always looking for things to be done cheaper, my neighbor and I replaced the wheel bearing on my truck, it costed $107, he said just to work it off doing snow plowing, which is ok with me, i'd rather do that. Since the topic changed to credit ratings, is it true that when you pay your phone bill or insurance bill, it counts toward your credit rating?

punt66
09-28-2008, 07:18 AM
I don't mind being in debt, as long as I don't have to spend a ton of money right away, I'm always looking for things to be done cheaper, my neighbor and I replaced the wheel bearing on my truck, it costed $107, he said just to work it off doing snow plowing, which is ok with me, i'd rather do that. Since the topic changed to credit ratings, is it true that when you pay your phone bill or insurance bill, it counts toward your credit rating?

No it does not count tword your credit rating. Credit cards, loans, mortgages are reported.

Lawnworks
09-28-2008, 09:35 AM
No my roadking, 66 mustang conv, 62 corvette, 66 cyclone gt, 84 mustang conv dont have notes. Neither does any of my equipment. By the way did your mentor ever teach you how to communicate with proffessionalism or humility. You could learn alot from people on this site instead of bashing people you may not agree with. Grow up kid. And if your not a kid then its too late for you.


I really don't like to invest in things that depreciate. Not a big fan of pissing away my money. I have nothing to learn from you. I give respect where respect is due, and unfortunately you don't deserve any respect from your minimal accomplishments. Your net worth is likely negative, and being a solo operator tells us all a little bit about yourself. So no, I think your advice on telling kid to go ahead and finance a truck.... is irresponsible.

Lawnworks
09-28-2008, 09:41 AM
O the kid stuff...Actually its good to finance stuff. Ill take a great credit rating over paying cash for everything. Thats just good life. Im not saying get in horrible debt, but its good to be in some debt.

I pay cash for everything... kinda helps sort out my priorities. My credit rating is excellent. I don't think it is good to be in any debt unless it is an appreciating asset... especially in the potential economy we face now. I have found life is much better w/ no notes and money in the bank.

punt66
09-28-2008, 09:57 AM
I really don't like to invest in things that depreciate. Not a big fan of pissing away my money. I have nothing to learn from you. I give respect where respect is due, and unfortunately you don't deserve any respect from your minimal accomplishments. Your net worth is likely negative, and being a solo operator tells us all a little bit about yourself. So no, I think your advice on telling kid to go ahead and finance a truck.... is irresponsible.


you dont even know me so how would you know if im due respect or not? So you dont respect me because i finaced a truck with a lifetime warrany at 1.9%? haha i guess the feeling is mutual kid. Someday when your responsible for yourself you may start to understand the world around you. Until then to more listening than talking and you might become something.

Lawnworks
09-28-2008, 10:05 AM
you dont even know me so how would you know if im due respect or not? So you dont respect me because i finaced a truck with a lifetime warrany at 1.9%? haha i guess the feeling is mutual kid. Someday when your responsible for yourself you may start to understand the world around you. Until then to more listening than talking and you might become something.

Oh I listen to other people... I am just careful who's advice I take. For one they have to be ahead of me in life!!

lol... I probably have more responsibilities than you do Mr. solo operator! Maybe you should be taking notes from me.

punt66
09-28-2008, 10:34 AM
what a nut.

Lawnworks
09-28-2008, 10:47 AM
what a nut.

I guess that is better than a failure.

Lakewlc
09-28-2008, 09:59 PM
mabey u should try to update a little more. ur truck is a 99 and this is a 03. we are heading into 2009 mabey it would be better if u updated the year a little more. just a thought...

AndyTblc
09-28-2008, 10:15 PM
mabey u should try to update a little more. ur truck is a 99 and this is a 03. we are heading into 2009 mabey it would be better if u updated the year a little more. just a thought...

I'll be 20 in december, how do you expect me to have enough money to update my truck all the time. There is actually nothing wrong with my truck, but it's starting to get some rust spots, and 220,000 miles, things are bound to go wrong here pretty soon, it's a great truck, I'm the 2nd owner, and I got it for a steel, but I can't afford to keep spending money on trucks, I have to spend money on my lawn mowing stuff, school, fun time. I just can't send all my money to a new truck fund. My goal is to eventually buy a brand new truck if I get a full time job after school, besides my lawn mowing.

dura to the max
09-28-2008, 11:59 PM
dont bash that 350 too much. i have a buddy that got 350k out of a 350. the heads blew so he decided to replace the motor. he now has over 350k on the new motor as well. its a work truck, and it HAS worked hard and all he does is the normal maintenance on it.