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Gravel Rat
09-25-2008, 02:58 PM
My updated retirement report came in the mail the other day I can retire 2036 and get 1300 dollars a month. Let the count down start I have 28 years to go.

What chaps my azz the most is I still can't afford to buy a house with the realestate market taking a swirl down the toilet. With the bad bank problems in the USA is making CND banks more cautious. I don't make enough money per year to handle a 300,000 dollar house which is the cheapest one on the market. Sorry you don't make enough money annual income of 40 grand a year doesn't qualify you for a mortage.

I'am getting quite a few people saying to me your lucky to have a job its like you mean I'am going to be stuck in this job :mad:

Then one of the muni employees I know says don't expect to see construction picking up for 2-3 years. The building dept isn't seeing very many permits being taken out.

My plans of making extra money doing general contracting on the side has flopped that is really frustrating. What in the heck happened to the renovation work. I know renovation work isn't happening because the debris pile at the landfill isn't very large. Even landscaping has dropped off.

So now what offer to do work for free :confused:

I really hate the fact people are saying that your lucky to have a job does that mean its getting that bad. I need to do what I want to do not what I can't stand doing. Ya I have full time employment its a dead end job that you watch your life tick away. Nothing changes it is the same thing day in day out I guess it is the same as a factory job standing on a assembly line. You pretty well put in your time and go home.

Oh ya there is no point in moving anywhere the economy is about the same everywhere else. Moving to Vancouver isn't a choice, the construction market is probably going to last another 6 months and it will be dropped off.

I have been job searching the classifieds and the wages are way too low. To live in Vancouver you have to make minimum 20 dollars per hour. The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. Vancouver has to be the worst crap hole to live.

I guess its ride out the economy slow down and take everybody that says to me your lucky to have a job advice. H*ll I don't even know if my job is safe. Talking to another employee the other day and he said he was told no overtime no spending money.

A career as a equipment operator isn't in my future for a few years no contractor can gaurantee a full time job or even a part time job. These guys don't even know what is going to happen with them. You get sorry guy we don't have enough work to hire you.

I could get a job with the highways maintenance contractor they are begging for people to work for 14-16 dollars per hour and get treated like crap. New guys apply for a job last 6 months and quit. It is so bad the contractor doesn't even bother advertising for jobs.

Not doom and gloom its just the sign of times how screwed up the ecomomy is and the provincial gov't doesn't even care. My friends that work in the forestry industry are looking at being jobless pretty quick if things don't improve.

With tourism was really bad this year and with the financial troubles in the USA, investors and investment companies in B.C. have cut back on spending. There is very little money being spent right now.

Maybe its why people are saying to me your lucky to have a job.

Career planners say september is a good month to change careers what a bunch of B.S.

Anyhow enough ranting just frigging disgusted how things are going with jobs losses and jobs on the line. Thought things would pick up this sept but its getting worse.

SouthernLandworks
09-25-2008, 06:11 PM
All you ever do is complain. If I was as sad and mad as you all the time i'd just shoot myself. Yes we all have it bad now but what is complaining to everyone going to help???And why is this thread in the heavy equipment section???

bobcatuser
09-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Life is like a dogsled team...unless you are the lead dog, the scenery never changes.

bobcat_ron
09-25-2008, 06:32 PM
Wow, 1300 bucks, that's damn good! My dad did the papers once, and all he would ever see is $300, hence the $96,000 Orange colored "retirement statement".

RockSet N' Grade
09-25-2008, 07:56 PM
Didn't read it......don't want to.....And, what is the definition of insanity?

dozerman21
09-25-2008, 08:00 PM
I hear Charlie Brown's teacher talking after the first sentence on GR's posts...:dizzy:

stuvecorp
09-25-2008, 08:35 PM
I hear Charlie Brown's teacher talking after the first sentence on GR's posts...:dizzy:

That's funny!

Junior M
09-25-2008, 08:42 PM
I saw this was posted by GR and I wasnt goin to read it until i saw the name of the thread.. I figured it was goin to be good and then I started reading and it went down the drain in just one freakn sentence!

now this is me ignoring the rest of this thread....

cddva
09-25-2008, 08:57 PM
:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

bobcat_ron
09-25-2008, 09:18 PM
Oh ya there is no point in moving anywhere the economy is about the same everywhere else. Moving to Vancouver isn't a choice, the construction market is probably going to last another 6 months and it will be dropped off.

I have been job searching the classifieds and the wages are way too low. To live in Vancouver you have to make minimum 20 dollars per hour. The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. Vancouver has to be the worst crap hole to live.





Move here to Abbotsford, or even Chilliwack, who says you need to live in Crack'couver?

Even our local municipalities are offering awesome 5 year contracts just as an incentive, Abbotsford's Public works just bought a few new trucks to replace the aging gravel trucks (all automatics!!!) I just spotted an new International single axle set up for a gravel/sander/plow truck, 5 new Cat TLB's and a host of new equipment. Seriously, with your back ground in everything and anything on wheels/tracks, Abby could use you.

Then you can work with someone just as screwed up like me. :laugh:

Sunscaper
09-25-2008, 09:20 PM
I'm guessing you don't get laid much.....

ccstrebe
09-25-2008, 10:30 PM
Move here to Abbotsford, or even Chilliwack, who says you need to live in Crack'couver?

Even our local municipalities are offering awesome 5 year contracts just as an incentive, Abbotsford's Public works just bought a few new trucks to replace the aging gravel trucks (all automatics!!!) I just spotted an new International single axle set up for a gravel/sander/plow truck, 5 new Cat TLB's and a host of new equipment. Seriously, with your back ground in everything and anything on wheels/tracks, Abby could use you.

Then you can work with someone just as screwed up like me. :laugh:


Sounds like an awesome potential opportunity GR. You should seriously check it. Maybe this is a good month for a career change after all.

doubleedge
09-25-2008, 11:23 PM
The democrats in congress dont have enough support to stop the offshore drilling ban from expiring next week, so gas prices in the US should start going down soon and keep going down for a while. Our economy will be firing on all cylinders then (our economy is kind of like the new chevy engine, with more gas comes a better ecomomy)

Scag48
09-25-2008, 11:33 PM
You have 28 more years to go before retirement? Well, you'll be right around 60 at that point, right? Not too bad. I'll be 51, 30 years in the union is a full boat however you can fire up another pension if you so desire after 30 years. Guys retiring now with 30 years in my union get somewhere around $6,000/month.

wanabe
09-26-2008, 12:19 AM
Oh no, hear we go again............................................again.............................................. .................................................................................................... and unfortunately AGAIN!

Gravel Rat
09-26-2008, 04:21 AM
Well it was the US economy taking a big fall that has created thousands of job losses in B.C. . B.C. has only one employer and that is the resource industry. Selling lumber and other natural resources to the USA is 90% of B.C.s income. With so many jobs lost in lumber mills etc the economy has taken a big hit.

I think the fun has begun Canada can watch the USA go into a 1930s great depression :laugh:

I'am not going to complain anymore you guys in the USA are so deep in the manure pile and no hope in h*ll of ever digging out. Watching the news and the US gov't wanting to spend 700 billion to bail out banks.

Good luck you guys, have you got your shopping cart picked out yet and a spot in a local park to sleep in :dizzy:

YellowDogSVC
09-26-2008, 11:54 AM
GR,

Check out www.daveramsey.com That plan works and you don't need the govt., or even a great job to get ahead, really.
I feel for ya. The economy is up and down and my retirement account has lost 10k in the last couple of months but things do get better. You gotta take control, though, and make the moves that you need to and then let the chips fall where they may. Really, you don't need a great economy to prosper.
I will be the first one to say, yeah, i'm nervous about the future, but my personal finances will be okay. (I'll just have to file bankruptcy on the Bobcat and truck). :)

Sunscaper
09-26-2008, 12:10 PM
Why don't you worry about your country and let us worry about ours. By the way you yourself stated that 90% of your lumber gets sold here. You economy is bottom feeding from ours. What kills me is how you want so much be be like us but you can so easily criticize us. No armchair quarterback ever won a super bowl. Maybe you country can buy some more products from us instead of standing there waiting for a hand out.

SouthernLandworks
09-26-2008, 03:47 PM
Gravel rat, You just stated that 90% of B.C.'s income comes from us so "if" we do go down the drain, guess whats happens to 90% of B.C.????
BYE BYE!!!! Lol.

CAT powered
09-26-2008, 03:55 PM
I think it's funny how GR talks about the "American Peso" when a US dollar is currently worth more than a Canadian dollar.

GR do you even read all the responses you get? Nobody wants to hear you whine.

Can a mod PLEASE move this to off-topic or something? It has nothing to do with heavy equipment.

Gravel Rat
09-26-2008, 04:00 PM
It will be curious to see what happens to the USA hopefully the repo man doesn't want to come and collect the 10 trillion dollars the USA owes.

It amazes me that the US gov't will bail out banks and large companies but small familly run business like you guys your tough luck go out of business.

Here in Canada banks don't lend out money to anybody. Even with me my job is gauranteed I make 40 grand a year I'am too much of a risk. The only reason why I was able to get bank loan for my truck is the bank manager knows me.

If you don't make minimum 60 grand a year you have very little chance of buying a house. One of my friends said to me don't feel bad its getting to the point you need to make 100 grand a year to afford to buy a house.

It will be curious to see what happens when the US dollar value falls even farther. I know it won't be good for canadian stores because quite abit of goods in the states is far far cheaper than here. You can have the exact same thing in Canada that can cost 50 to 10,000 dollars more.

Autoparts in the USA are cheaper than here. If shipping wasn't so expensive I would be buying tires from the USA. I already buy filters for my truck I save a good chunk of money.

Vehicals are always cheaper in the USA if it wasn't for the CND gov't and the taxes etc I would buy my F-450 in the USA for 10 grand less.

I hope you guys are making hay while the sunshines because if the USA does go into a recession its going to be bad. No country can keep borrowing money and never pay it back.

Lazer_Z
09-26-2008, 05:04 PM
OK, This is my LAST time responding to one of your sorry a$$ posts. You need to shut the hell up already, maybe in your little land of make believe things are in the sh*tter for people, but as you can clearly see if you bother to take the damn blindfold off the guys that regularly post here are doing just fine. I could give to sh*ts less if you respond to this or not, I'm just so tired of reading the same old same old poor me poor me from you. BTW welcome to my ignore list groveling rot. http://emoticons4u.com/fingers/fing26.gif

bobcat_ron
09-26-2008, 08:29 PM
I find it quite hilarious, everyone here who complains about GR's whining and vow never to read another thread started by him, you always reply.

ccstrebe
09-26-2008, 10:04 PM
I was thinking the same thing

Gravel Rat
09-27-2008, 03:48 AM
You guys in the USA can't deny that the USA is not in trouble you guys are there is a good chance the country will go into a recession.

I really find it funny how many american citizens live in fear. I know you guys don't beleive Michael Moore documentaries but after watching a few of them and I do see it in the american tourist that visit and I see it here. I still remember one comment a US tourist said to me " We feel safe in Canada "

I don't mean to offend anybody but your country is screwed. Its time to get a new president in power and stand up for yourselves.

Get mad at me all you want :laugh:

Good Luck you guys are going to need it.

Scag48
09-27-2008, 04:00 AM
Hey, at least we're not socialists. Like I said before, if BC is half as bad as you say it is, then we're way better off down here. But then again, BC's downfall could be an exaggeration and more than likely is. There's no pleasing you GR, BC economy is in the crapper according to you, US is in the hole, is there ever good times in your future? You need a woman, dude.

I'd like to think we take care of our own down here. Instead of waiting for the government to hand us something (healthcare) we just go get it ourselves. Don't like something? Change it. Don't make enough money? Get a better job. Don't like where you live? Leave. Simple as that. Instead, you try to find reasons why NOT to do something instead of pushing the envelope. And that's the difference. Times are tough here right now and they very well could get worse. Whatever, can't change the fact that this economic downturn is happening. Work a second job, cut back on some luxuries, big freaking deal, it isn't going to last forever. That's what you get stuck on, things lasting forever.

Gravel Rat
09-27-2008, 05:08 AM
Like I said get someone new in power and stop exporting jobs out of the country. Why did the US gov't let banks loan money to people that can't pay. Now you guys US tax payers have to pay for somebodies mistakes.

The B.C. economy is suffering because Bush doesn't want CND wood sold in the USA so he slapped large tarriffs on the wood. The forest industry to B.C. is like the manufacturing industry to the USA it provides steady income.

How many companies moved to Mexico taking US jobs with it. What ever happened to quality AMERICAN MADE. Why does the USA import more goods from China when the same thing could be made in North America.

Health care in Canada isn't as good as you think it iis. You want to know how many people die in hospital hallways. You know that CNDs are paying big dollars to go to private US hospitals to get surgeries done.

The Canadian gov't doesn't hand out anything. We are taxed to freaking death. There is a tax on everything we buy. Income tax takes 30-40% of your wages. Look at the cost of fuel in Canada we can produce our own and we get screwed on the price.

The biggest thing is we don't have to live in fear. We don't sleep with guns at our bed side. We don't have enough locks on the door of our house that can compete with fort knox.

You know how many American tourists have said to me " You Canadians are really friendly "

There is a difference Canada isn't a communist country like the USA is turning into.

I think you guys should visit Canada and see what a life is like. Where people are friendly (except Vancouver). In the 6 years working for the gov't I have talked to thousand or more American citizens face to face I bet I have only encountered 1 maybe 2 people that were rude. Like I said before the most common saying from a US tourist is "you guys are lucky to live here".

There has been quite a few Americans that have become canadian citzens and say they will never go back.

Do I live in fear of loosing my job nope
Do I worry about getting sick No
Do I worry somebody is going to sue my azz off for no reason

I'am I scared of the provincial and federal gov't NO

If I'am operating my trucking business do I fear the DOT like you guys in the USA NO.

I don't own a gun and never will own a gun maybe a hunting riffle someday.

Do I speak my mind you bet

Do I complain yes I do

Do I dislike any of you guys NO

I try to be friendly with everybody.

Do I hold grudges NO

Junior M
09-27-2008, 08:30 AM
You need a woman, dude.

If he whines and complains in real person as much as he does on here I dont think he will ever get one

and GR since when arent you afraid of losing your job? that seems to be one of the consistent things, other than the logging industry, that you complain about on here.. You dont make any sense..

bobcat_ron
09-27-2008, 11:05 AM
Our stupid BC Government finally got rid of those damn toll booths on the Coquihalla highyway, but it was just to get votes.

Gravel Rat
09-27-2008, 02:33 PM
I really don't care if I loose my job I can collect unemployment insurance but I worry that if B.C. looses its main income supply ie resource industry B.C. is screwed.

I was watching the CND news this morning a university professor from the USA said if this bail out doesn't happen the USA is going into recession. Not good for Canada but we will trudge along. It will be good when the CND dollar will be worth more and we can buy up all the repoed excavation equipment in the US.

What happens if the US gov't says to its people time to pay up. Each citizen owes the US gov't 37,000 dollars so if your a familly of 4 where are you going to get 148,000 dollars. That is the estimated share of the US national debt at almost 10 trillion :dizzy:

Just think you guys will be paying so much income tax 1 months worth of wages will be going for tax.

Enough talking about the bad stuff you guys will be so broke you will make Vancouver's homeless people look like multi millionares :laugh:

YardPro
09-27-2008, 07:44 PM
big surprise...
YET ANOTHER GLOOM AND DOOM POST from gravel rat....

what a surprise....

i don't think i have EVER read a positive post from this guy....

bobcat_ron
09-27-2008, 08:45 PM
big surprise...
YET ANOTHER GLOOM AND DOOM POST from gravel rat....

what a surprise....

i don't think i have EVER read a positive post from this guy....



Yeah, yeah, but when it comes to truck knowledge and which is a better deal on a used truck, who do we all come crying to?

CAT powered
09-27-2008, 08:46 PM
Anyone but GR. He is too busy getting off on his tandems.

mrusk
09-27-2008, 08:56 PM
This **** is just to funny.

What is he talking about not feeling safe in the US? The only time I did not feel safe in the US was when I was getting gas in Waco texas at 3am when there was a apparant drug deal going down in the parking lot with alot of brothers.

murray83
10-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Its the same replys as every other post he makes....if you don't like it don't respond god if he is wasting your time why did you put the 5 minutes of your life in typing a reply? :rolleyes:

In my opinion pensions (RRSP's or union) are BS I know many union boys who been screwed by the IUOE so bragging up your pension is pointless I'd rather start my own savings fund than trust anyone to manage my money,Even the CPP system will in time implode with the baby boomers cashing in.

No thanks I'll look after my own financial future

Gravel Rat
10-05-2008, 08:18 PM
I find it funny somebody from the East Coast that hasn't seen a boom ever or knows what expensive realestate is.

When has a house on the east coast ever sold for over 1 million dollars. Hell you can buy 100 acres for less than a million on the East Coast. The cost of living on the East Coast is quite abit lower. The wages are lower too. A friend of mine is moving to New Brunswick or that area and he has been showiing me what you can buy for 200,000 which is a mansion out here on the West Coast it buys you a cardboard box in somebodies backyard.

Right now things are really slow in the construction and probably be that way till next spring. Most of the excavation contractors have most of their machinery sitting waiting for work. Most developers have cut spending because they are getting no return on the investment with the realestate market bubble burst. With prices dropping and sales in the red it just shows people just are not buying.

I'am glad I don't have a huge mortgage payment and the worry about being unemployeed all winter.

I may dislike my job but atleast I will be working. I won't be the one of the people that willl be loosing sleep over trying to pay bills. Have to see how many people claim personal bankruptsy.

Nothing is as bad as what is happening in the USA. Even in todays paper it says Canada's job losses pale in comparision to the 150,000 jobs lost in the USA last month. One US economist predicted another million jobs pretty soon.

The 700 billion dollar buy out hasn't provided any mircles yet.

Many people have been making money off of scrap metal and now the market on that has dropped considerably. Its not even worth collecting scrap at the prices per ton.

The quickest way to go broke right now is get into the excavation business you can join the others with equipment not turning a wheel :laugh:

CAT powered
10-05-2008, 08:44 PM
No expensive real estate? Try a hundred million bucks for this place. It's in Newport, Rhode Island. It's the Breakers mansion.

Gravel Rat
10-05-2008, 08:48 PM
I didn't mean the American East coast I know you guys have expensive realestate out there. I'am talking about the Canadian east east coast where the only economy was fishing.

There are mansions on the West Coast of B.C. that are in the hundreds of millions.

bobcatuser
10-06-2008, 12:10 AM
I didn't mean the American East coast I know you guys have expensive realestate out there. I'am talking about the Canadian east east coast where the only economy was fishing.

There are mansions on the West Coast of B.C. that are in the hundreds of millions.

We don't have 100 Million dollar houses in Canada,maybe half that in the top end. The most expensive residential house I have worked on in the lower mainland was built for 9 Million.

Gravel Rat
10-06-2008, 01:15 AM
There are some high dollar houses built on the West Coast of B.C. probably not 100 million thou .

With the realestate market dropping off houses in East Van won't be selling for million dollars :laugh:

murray83
10-06-2008, 06:24 PM
Actually we have a few million plus homes around but most are snagged up quick by americans or out of province residents especially up in salmon fishing country.

Your welcome anytime to come out east here to NB,can haul asphalt for Lafarge with a tandem for $70/hr around a 12-14 hour day 5 days a week

....prolly a better relaxed life than living in BC fighting for scraps and dealing with nimbys,and if you could see some of these O/O dumps you'd have a quick laugh.