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Dirtman2007
10-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Here's my project for this week. I've a pond dam that a little over 300' long that needs to have all the trees removed off the backside so we can haul in 1500 yards of dirt and make the pond dam wider.

But here's the kick... I'm not allowed to drop trees into the woods behind or drop them into the water:nono:

So I have about a 30' - 40' wide little area to drop trees that are 75+' tall. Stated in the contract there is a fine of $500 for a tree that goes over the stop line and causes unnecessary damage to the surrounding trees. Thanks tree huggers for making my life hard:dizzy:

So today I removed the trees without any going over the line and costing my butt.

But the only way to get the trees to go the way they need was to pull them toward the machine and then when they started to fall, swing them to the side.
Then I have to cut the trees and logs out on the spot before I can transfer all the brush down to the end to load.



Here's a video to show you

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hgxuzGoqIbY



A couple pictures


http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-46.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-49.jpg

Loading the brush out on the truck

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-39.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-45.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-35.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-26.jpg

1cooltreeguy
10-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Hey Chris, looking at the pics and the size of the logs I do not see 1 tree 75 + feet tall. Maybe 30 to 40 feet tall. those things are small - Just busting your *#*#*...Good job, how many trees did you remove and what did you charge? What are you doing with the debris in the dump truck and where are the logs going - looks like pulp to me? A few saw logs but not much $$ to haul to the mill??? thanks, E

Dirtman2007
10-01-2008, 10:47 PM
Hey Chris, looking at the pics and the size of the logs I do not see 1 tree 75 + feet tall. Maybe 30 to 40 feet tall. those things are small - Just busting your *#*#*...Good job, how many trees did you remove and what did you charge? What are you doing with the debris in the dump truck and where are the logs going - looks like pulp to me? A few saw logs but not much $$ to haul to the mill??? thanks, E

I'm cutting 3 16'6" logs out of most of the trees before I get into the top wood ( under 8") and branches which is about another 15-25' of crap/ junk wood.

All together we should have about 2 tractor trailer loads of logs to send out to the mill.

Rest of the debris is going to the brush landfill to be shreaded at $100 a tractor trailer load.

1cooltreeguy
10-01-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm cutting 3 16'6" logs out of most of the trees before I get into the top wood ( under 8") and branches which is about another 15-25' of crap/ junk wood.

All together we chould have about 2 tractor trailer loads of logs to send out to the mill.

Rest of the debris is going to the brush landfill to be shreaded at $100 a tractor trailer load.

Wow, those trees are thin then....look to be about 20"- 24" logs?? $100 for a tractor trailer load for shredding is CHEAP - Dude that is cheap - we pay $$250 here - that is one of the reasons we bought a Morbark 1200 to make and process our own mulch and charge others to dump..Looks good:walking:

RockSet N' Grade
10-01-2008, 10:53 PM
I watched the utube video. you had good feel on those.......the gods were with you on that one........nice job.

Dirtman2007
10-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Wow, those trees are thin then....look to be about 20"- 24" logs?? $100 for a tractor trailer load for shredding is CHEAP - Dude that is cheap - we pay $$250 here - that is one of the reasons we bought a Morbark 1200 to make and process our own mulch and charge others to dump..Looks good:walking:

Thanks

on the back side of the pond dam they are like 18"- 24" tooth picks, nice and straight which are great for cutting logs, bad for trying to drop whole in a narrow area.

$100 a tractor trailer load (30' trailer with 5' sides) is the common price around here. there is one place that's only $80.00 a load.

bobcat_ron
10-01-2008, 11:34 PM
That 220 has some major wide pads!

Dirtman2007
10-01-2008, 11:38 PM
That 220 has some major wide pads!

36" swamp pads for our pond work. still not enough floatation sometimes as that machine has been in mud up to the top of the counterweight. No lie.

Gravel Rat
10-01-2008, 11:58 PM
You could have dropped those with a saw :laugh:

The biggest I have fell is 46 inches in diameter and 80 feet tall. Never did want to continue a career as a faller I only fall trees for my own use.

CAT powered
10-02-2008, 12:08 AM
That's a heck of a tree, GR. What'd you take it down with? MS660?

Gravel Rat
10-02-2008, 12:19 AM
Thats a baby tree I would have dropped that with my MS260 with a 24 inch bar. My main falling saw is a 046 Magnum with a 28 inch bar with full wrap handle its pretty much a fallers saw for medium sized trees. For brushing and thinning a 660 with a 32 inch bar is overkill.

I started using chainsaws when I was 15 so you can safely say I have 17 years of saw experience.

CAT powered
10-02-2008, 12:26 AM
Right. What'd you take the 48" diameter 80' tall tree down with? A 660?

I've got 2 MS210s that ride in the trucks in case of emergency or any sort of unexpected on the job need and an MS460 for any serious work.

Dirt Digger2
10-02-2008, 12:51 AM
nice....heres my idea of tree removal too

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/Heavy%20Equipment%20and%20Farming/5-23-08004.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/Heavy%20Equipment%20and%20Farming/spring0712.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/8-9-08001.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/dirtdigger2/8-9-08002.jpg

i figured i would post in here because you posted in my pipeline thread...HAHA

Gravel Rat
10-02-2008, 01:24 AM
Right. What'd you take the 48" diameter 80' tall tree down with? A 660?

I've got 2 MS210s that ride in the trucks in case of emergency or any sort of unexpected on the job need and an MS460 for any serious work.


I took the trees down with my 046/460 with a 28 inch bar with a full skip chain. I had to go to both sides of the tree to cut the birds mouth.

The 46 does all what I need I do have the use of my old mans 051 that has a 36 inch bar on it. The saw is a little heavy for falling but its what I learned with. It is more of a bucking saw its what dad bought it for bucking 36 inch and larger cedar. With 404 chain it really throws the chips if you have a new chain.

I have said this before but I'am more scared of a 7 1/4 skil saw than I'am of a chainsaw with a big bar.

coopers
10-02-2008, 03:32 AM
Nice pics as always. Weather looks like it's holding up there.

Lazer_Z
10-02-2008, 02:43 PM
Thats a baby tree I would have dropped that with my MS260 with a 24 inch bar. My main falling saw is a 046 Magnum with a 28 inch bar with full wrap handle its pretty much a fallers saw for medium sized trees. For brushing and thinning a 660 with a 32 inch bar is overkill.

I started using chainsaws when I was 15 so you can safely say I have 17 years of saw experience.
Impossible, the MS260 & MS260 PRO can only carry up to a 20" bar. You are so full of $hit your eyes are brown!

Gravel Rat
10-02-2008, 06:59 PM
Impossible, the MS260 & MS260 PRO can only carry up to a 20" bar. You are so full of $hit your eyes are brown!

You want to bet :rolleyes:

I have a 24 inch bar with a full chain on it and I use that saw for thinning and brushing. Only sissys use short bars.

When I started learning with my old mans 051 it had a 40 inch bar on it and for what I was doing with it.

You want to argue about chainsaws go ahead :laugh:

I was taught by west coast fallers with more experience you could ever frigging dream of.

Heres real tree falling I would consider this a small tree

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nMCIa_MIEw

This is a big tree

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSYIP3nYnUU

Here is another one for you wanna be fallers

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOomJScWblw

Dirtman2007
10-02-2008, 08:59 PM
nice....heres my idea of tree removal too


i figured i would post in here because you posted in my pipeline thread...HAHA

Why that's not a stump... Here's a stump!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/Picture103.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/Picture102.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/Picture116.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/Picture356.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/Picture353.jpg

Dirtman2007
10-02-2008, 09:05 PM
Here's a few more pictures from today. Just finishing up clearing and hauling the trees out.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-50.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-40.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-36.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-27.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/008-23.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/009-20.jpg

I'll post the other video when it loads


I use a STIHL 036 pro with a 20 skip tooth blade on it for all the cutting and a 034 for a backup saw.

Lazer_Z
10-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Rat, If you want to ruin your own saws that's fine by me, I'm basing the 20" off of what Stihl says as well as what I have. I have an MS 260 PRO with a 20" bar. No I don't want to argue about saws, I could care less what you learned to cut with.


Sorry about the hijack Chris, nice work as always. If I ever get the chance to get away from Jersey for more than a day, your area of NC is where I'm headed. Maybe I can become a temporary employee :D

Gravel Rat
10-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Its the way the saw shops have been selling 026 and MS260s for years. Most saw shops rarely carry bars shorter than 24 inches no demand for them.

I seriously doubt you have much chainsaw experience Lazer_Z.

That Daewoo has to be slippery with swamp pads on it. The shoes must be 36 inches wide.

The job looks good :drinkup:

Dirtman2007
10-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Ah it's not too slippery with those tracks. Even on a hill steep enough where you have to put your feet up on the windshield to stay in the seat it will still hold pretty good.

here's another tricky tree that had to came down. A forked tree that was about 4' away from the buried utilities that run through the pond dam.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYlHXlGJXw

AWJ Services
10-03-2008, 08:49 AM
That thing splintered up like a sweet gum?

DUSTYCEDAR
10-03-2008, 09:34 AM
cool work nice to get it

Dirtman2007
10-03-2008, 07:24 PM
That thing splintered up like a sweet gum?

That's what it was. You can twist them into knots and they still wont break into.

AWJ Services
10-04-2008, 08:56 AM
Those sweet gums are tough.
They are very invasive here in Georgia.
You can clear an area free of them and they will be the first too sprout coming from no where.