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packy
02-08-2002, 02:46 PM
Has anyone ever needed to list their equipment on a large comercial account? This account is some big money and the manager wants to know if I ahve enough equipment. What's enough. I know I can handle it with me and 2 other employees. I think this account like's the circus show some company's put on showing up with 25 guys. Should I post the equipment or really let him know that we can handle it with a 60, 48, 36 and couple 21 mowers. all new!!!

Bob Minney
02-08-2002, 03:03 PM
Sounds like they may have been burned before. Give them your equipment list and references from comparable properties, then go from there. How does he benefit from having your crew as opposed to having 25 guys there doing his work?

LAWNGODFATHER
02-08-2002, 03:07 PM
They have the right to even ask to see it also.

They want to "SEE" that you have the proper amount and equipment to hadle the job, not just your word.

They want "PROOF"..........

I have done some muni work and have had a repersenative come to the shop to see all in person.

skyphoto
02-08-2002, 03:44 PM
When we bid work for the city they want to know what equipment will be used and how long it will take to complete using this equipment.......I guess this is so you wont try to bid a 10acre park using a 21" murray and plan on mowing 6 days a week 10 hour days.......Only problem I see with this is they also want to know how much you charge per hour for each machine (they say in case they need you for an hourly job) Well all this info is fine and dandy for them but it looks like they can sit and figure out how much cushion is on top of the bid that I just turned in@@#!$#!

Peace!!!!

eslawns
02-08-2002, 08:44 PM
IMO, these people are usually a pain the ***. I didn't go spend all this money just to have some control freak micromanage the operation of my business. Tell me what you want done, and let me determine how to do it. However I can understand that they want you gone as soon as possible. Not everybody wants to hear a lawn mower run for hours at a time. For us it's the sound of money.

Fantasy Lawns
02-08-2002, 09:41 PM
I've never had this problem ... but have been ask for a bond (5% of contract) which usually shows "ability to perform" ;->

bam
02-08-2002, 10:44 PM
It has happened before, although I would say it's not a common request. One company requested a list of all our maintenance equipment, and another requested a list of all our snow removal equipment, in addition to equipment that would be specifically dedicated to their site for winter.

David Haggerty
02-09-2002, 05:58 AM
skyphoto;

Sounds like they're digging too deep into your business.
I've never seen a request for a cost per machine hour breakdown.
I hope I never do. I'd have to tell them no.
I work by the "job" only. No hourly, but then I'm solo.


packy;

I've never had to fill out an equipment list. But I always list my equipment with my bid.
I get the feeling sometimes that if they could hire the equipment without me they would! LOL

Dave

southside
02-09-2002, 06:47 AM
Never heard of a price breakdown per machine hour being given to a client.

However I have been asked for equipment lists and to see my
gear in the flesh. A lot of customers have been stung by cheap
and nasty operators.

sheppard
02-09-2002, 08:26 AM
Agree with most of the above comments. They just want to know you are legitamate.

The best info you can give them even if they do not ask for it is customer references. Also consider putting them on your Insurance notification list. That tells them the Ins. Co. will notify them when you drop or change anything related to that Co.

Cordially,
Sheppard

thartz
02-09-2002, 08:49 AM
Sheppard : I agree with the insurance bit. How many people have insurance that do this just to pick up beer money. I send an info package with equip list & insurance info and most people feel your ligitimate enough from that presentation to be able to handle larger accounts. I would never break down an hourly rate for each piece of equip. that's an invitation for too much negotiation.

LAWNGODFATHER
02-09-2002, 12:43 PM
That's nothing, how about badging for each and every employee, that's right a security check on each and ever person working.

FAA regulations. (Airport) That is before the 9/11 thing.

Price break down for each and every employee and piece of equipment that is going to be used on the job, including a guy with a shovel.

You think that's bad, next you have to store the equipment onsite. Has to be there ready to go at all times.

On top of all of that, they also want 1 years cost of the job as bonding.

Well that's for snow removal, but you get the point.