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LawnMowerKing10
10-13-2008, 08:52 AM
I have never seen this , Why does a ztr not have the steering bars?

Its the cub cadet commercial ZB1

JimQ
10-13-2008, 09:01 AM
Ok, I give. Where do we see it?

Q

LawnMowerKing10
10-13-2008, 09:18 AM
www.thetractorguys.net , It should be on the right side

Jason Rose
10-13-2008, 09:31 AM
Here's the direct link to the machine... http://ahearnequipment.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=725

A list price of 14,000!

DaveVB
10-13-2008, 09:52 AM
Probably for the home owner who is intimidated by the two levers.

JimQ
10-13-2008, 09:56 AM
So what's the deal? I can't find any more info on it anywhere. Is it in production for 2009?

Q

JimQ
10-13-2008, 10:02 AM
Figured I'd post the pics to keep it interesting.

Q
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shepoutside
10-13-2008, 10:27 AM
:drinkup:So you can drink with one hand :drinkup:

capnsac
10-13-2008, 10:37 AM
what kind of seat is that?

JimQ
10-13-2008, 11:19 AM
what kind of seat is that?

Grammer

Q

MJB
10-13-2008, 12:22 PM
Whats up with the front tires ??

JimQ
10-13-2008, 01:36 PM
Whats up with the front tires ??

They are steerable. Something like this would be great on the side of a hill.

Q

LushGreenLawn
10-13-2008, 01:47 PM
Something like that may lessen the learning curve for new employees, especially with tearing turf.

I assume MTD has made sure it won't tear turf when it turns. (Although we are talking about MTD, you never know)

Jason Rose
10-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Basically it's just their larger commercial version of their iseries zero turn tractors.

And yes, my parents would probably buy something like this (the commercial one) because my mom wants to mow, but refuses to learn to operate a normal zero turn. They mow several acres of fescue lawn and also prarie grass that they want to mow 5 or 6 inches tall...

whoopassonthebluegrass
10-13-2008, 02:50 PM
What a turd of a mower.

GPDesign1
10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Looks like Cub has their eye on a piece of the "Gizmow market"... :rolleyes:

gp

MCLC
10-13-2008, 04:54 PM
A plus may be that it may turn better going a down hill.

jkilov
10-13-2008, 05:29 PM
What gives with the price tag ??

Liquidfast
10-13-2008, 05:31 PM
ITS JUST A FAST TRACTOR!

Makes NO sense to buy one of those. If I had one arm...........maybe.

4.3mudder
10-13-2008, 05:40 PM
Thats expensive, you can buy one of those 72 inch bad boy mowers with a cat engine for that much!

capnsac
10-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Grammer

Q

Thanks Q, are they worth a darn though?

Richard Martin
10-13-2008, 07:00 PM
How do you control speed and forward/reverse?

ALC-GregH
10-13-2008, 10:03 PM
looks like the pedal on the right is to move forward, maybe it has a heel plate for reverse.

JimQ
10-14-2008, 09:10 AM
Thanks Q, are they worth a darn though?

It's a relatively new seat. I haven't had a chance to use one myself. Walker has offered them for about a year now as an option. The Walker guys seem to really like them.

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Sammy
10-14-2008, 10:02 AM
Why does a ztr not have the steering bars?


I'm just guessing, but my answer is ..... Because it has a steering wheel ?

Sammy
10-14-2008, 10:17 AM
$14,900.00 for that thing ???? ........ No Way !

31 Horsepower Kawasaki........Must be they are going after the Newbie that thinks they need all them ponies and speed.

rsp1961
10-14-2008, 10:22 AM
that's just ridiculous. makes you wonder who is doing the design. these people need to get out of the office and in the field more. too many faults to even list, most already have been listed.

N.H.BOY
10-14-2008, 08:02 PM
You would think it would be cheaper with out having those hydro's for the back wheels:dizzy:

doubleedge
10-14-2008, 08:10 PM
too many faults to even list, most already have been listed.

Your logic eludes me.

The Captain
10-14-2008, 09:36 PM
What's with the little lever sticking out below the steering wheel? The turn signal lever? Can't be the wiper/washer switch.

whoopassonthebluegrass
10-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Maybe it's $15k because it does 45mph... or flies...

topsites
10-14-2008, 09:44 PM
I'm all right with it, other than how does it keep from tearing up turf?

That is, assuming both back wheels are powered, I would have to guess
it has a differential, which may not always be the best thing either.

But other than that it's kind of cool.
Not something I'd pay 14 for either.

What's with the little lever sticking out below the steering wheel? The turn signal lever? Can't be the wiper/washer switch.

Maybe it's the cruise control.

But honestly speaking, that and the lever below it appear to be useful for adjusting the position of the wheel.

puppypaws
10-14-2008, 10:35 PM
Here's the direct link to the machine... http://ahearnequipment.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=725

A list price of 14,000!

I don't know if that is list price or not, they said "Our Price $14,900.00."

Can you believe that?

MOHUSTLER
10-15-2008, 10:07 AM
It will be popular for the old man who is 80 and has a ton of money to spend before he dies. Everyone else is wise enough to buy a Z

Mickhippy
10-15-2008, 05:19 PM
I think you are all being a bit harsh!
Ok, its probably over priced but for mowing hills it would be heaps better than a traditional ztr. Also, the wider front tires would give less compaction and a better ride.
Have a look at the vids (movie on left of page) http://www.gizmow.com/videos-photos.htm on the Gizmo site, that Cub looks very similar! Different, but same idea!
If its is anything like the Gizmo, it is a true zero turn! How often do you actually use true zero turn anyway? K turns are the norm!
Im not a fan of Cub stuff and I probably wouldnt buy one of these machines but I wont right the machine off without at least seeing first hand and a proper demo!

Runner
10-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Actually, I believe this is controlled forward and reverse by pushing and pulling on the steering wheel. The to knobs you see on the steering column are to adjust the distance of the wheel to and from the driver. I'm not sure how well they would hold a straight row, or how sensitive the steering is, but I can tell one trick of the trade, while we're on the subject. On a standard Z, to help keep straight rows - especially on rougher grund, I use one hand (on both sticks). This give superior control over staying straight over using two hands.

JimQ
10-15-2008, 06:00 PM
Actually, I believe this is controlled forward and reverse by pushing and pulling on the steering wheel.

Not if it's anything like the i series tractor.

There is a foot pedal for forward/reverse speed control and a wheel to steer. There is a "magic" box at the base of the steering column that coordinates the efforts of the 2 integrated hydros in the rear and the position of the front wheels for the turn. It's a pretty clever system.

Q

Here's a couple photos of the i1050

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capnsac
12-14-2008, 12:47 PM
I got a chance to demo one of these on Friday, it was the coolest thing I ever rode in my life! I took it on the side of a super steep hill and the thing was super stable. My dealer just got em in. He was talking price with me after the demo, and well they aren't cheap. I could have gotten a 72 38hp Kawi for around 12,000, so that's better than the price stated for the M60. He could get me the M60 for around 10,500.

georgiagrass
12-14-2008, 08:09 PM
Looks like it might be good on hills. Other than that, it just looks wrong.

STIHL GUY
12-14-2008, 09:00 PM
looks kinda dumb to me but for a homeowner with a lot of money its a good idea

johnnybravo8802
12-14-2008, 09:17 PM
Nothing Cub Cadet makes is worth $15,000 or even $10,000. That's not new technology either-another company makes a machine like that. It's suppose to be really good on hills. I hope they don't get in trouble from ripping off the other company!!!!!Hustler got in trouble with Stander in 99' with the Short Cut-I had one of the last one's you could stand up on, or sit down, to mow. It was easier on your back and increased visibility.

capnsac
12-15-2008, 08:40 AM
To each his own I guess, but I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. It has power deck lift, the Grammer seat (which is insanely comfortable btw), the select cut system, 38(!!!)hp Kawasaki engine, gas pedal (yes, I said gas pedal) and best of all, it's like driving a damn car. If you know how to drive a car, you'll know how to operate this thing. It's not intimidating at all, in fact it's encouraging because of how easy it is to operate, and best of all you get ZTR maneuverability. You guys need to try one!

South Florida Lawns
12-15-2008, 11:55 AM
looks like junk to me , I thought cub cadet was from Lowe's?

ed2hess
12-15-2008, 04:45 PM
Figured I'd post the pics to keep it interesting.

Q
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I drove this unit around the parking lot and they couldn't have done more things wrong if they tried. This is a loser.

lifetree
12-16-2008, 10:02 PM
I drove this unit around the parking lot and they couldn't have done more things wrong if they tried. This is a loser.

Well, now that we've got that settled ... LOL !!

capnsac
12-20-2008, 12:16 PM
I drove this unit around the parking lot and they couldn't have done more things wrong if they tried. This is a loser.

Can you expand on that comment? Like what were the things they did wrong, what could they have done better? Please be as descriptive as possible and please take your time with writing a response to this post. I wanna know why my Tank is a piece of junk (as you all say they are) when it never broke down on me once this year with the 350+ hours I put on it? I will be putting about 400 more hours on it next year and I can't foresee anything breaking on it then either, but hell, just because my mower makes me money and doesn't give me any trouble must mean it's a loser right?

Maybe once I get over 1000 hours on it, with about zero down time then you will stop bashing these mowers. Or maybe, just maybe some of you are too near-sighted to realize that something of quality might cost a little extra. It's a hard concept to get your head around. It took me a while to figure it out too. :hammerhead:

capnsac
12-20-2008, 12:17 PM
looks like junk to me , I thought cub cadet was from Lowe's?

Hooray for ignorance! :clapping::clapping: