View Full Version : Retaining wall and stairs i am doing. pics

10-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Here is a 58 foot long wall i built out of allan block jumbo juniors.

I am also doing a walkway from the stairs to another two stairs and then to the porch, in interlock.

Here are some pictures.

10-16-2008, 11:25 PM

10-17-2008, 12:30 AM
Looks decent.

I HATE ab personally.

10-17-2008, 01:24 AM
i don't like them much either but the homeowner picked what he wanted and purchased it before hand so i just went with it. i tried to get them to use hanson products. i think a full block of concrete would be a bit more stable then one that is hollow inside and filled with 3\4 stone.

10-17-2008, 07:53 AM
I woulda dug back the drain field another 2' or so. Block looks real straight though. Are they paving the drive to make the riser on that first step not so high?

10-17-2008, 09:10 AM
I used ab for 12 years and swithched becuase they went to a 12" cap. I would;t of used jr's for wall application. Your bond is not enough, and on steps i found using the ab lite worked better. Also with the batter you have too many cuts to make in steps. See wall and steps i have posted on thread " job we just completed " we swithched to cornerstone. Did you grid every 2 courses?

10-17-2008, 10:38 AM
the wall is not even 3.5 feet high there is no need for grid. the stairs i double stacked the block under the block you see being used for the stair so i did not grid the stairs either.

Yes there will be pavement on the driveway still, i am doing the walkway today and will be addind some a gravel to make sure they go to where i want it to be.

10-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Other words you did the pedistal like i told you from that 1 wall i did? Ab wants there product gridded every 2 hoping it will happen on at least every 3 courses. With the cornerstone i showed earlier you had no cuts on step. Those little pieces looks like crap too me, not knocking your work but even talking about the ones i did my self. Also there corner block sucks. On your step downs on grade you could of used an ab lite 1/2 height of block placed cap on it and hid the end of the block, looks much nicer. Also on your steps looking head on you could of notched your corner block more making everything more even , your head wall varies a good bit. Im telling you this because i used ab for a lot of years and pretty well new all the tricks.

10-18-2008, 11:09 PM
with AB, your have to notch the bottom of your corners on 90 degree steps so that your cheek walls are straight, and not battered like the face of the wall. by not doing so, every step is wider than the one prior as you go up.

you should also use corners where you step up along the wall, and split face the edge of your caps.

10-19-2008, 08:29 AM
that first tread is quite a step up is the HO paving the driveway? that looks like a 10inch riser

10-21-2008, 01:10 AM
yeah they are paving the driveway at the end of the month. I have since added a gravel to the front of the wall so i know that the grading by the wall will be correct.

10-21-2008, 01:16 AM
This the walkway i added to the job.


10-21-2008, 11:34 PM
lines arent straight. the landing joint lines are off compared to the sidewalk.

looks like it was built well. maybe a little slower next time and catch those things that take alot of attention to detail.

10-21-2008, 11:37 PM
They look like the old 18" caps, ab quit making them around august and went to 12' is why i left ab.

10-22-2008, 12:13 AM
they are probable just getting rid of the rest they have instock. for 18" caps the only 18" caps that are on there are the step caps, the wall caps are 15"

I know that i put a good base in and i used poly sand on the walkway as well. I forgot to get the edging and did something that i probably shouldn't have. i didn't put the edging in at all. i layed the interlock and then compacted the sides with topsoil beside the brick to use that as edge.