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Herrick
10-19-2008, 11:14 PM
How long would you estimate to cut these two schools using a single 72" mower?

1cooltreeguy
10-19-2008, 11:18 PM
School 1 - 14 hours seat time, a ton of edging and string trimming - 12-14 hrs and then 3-4 hours blowing. School 2- 6 hours mowing - 3 hours to string trim and edge. 1 hour blowing.

Kennedy Landscaping
10-20-2008, 12:16 AM
Thats alot of area to cover. I'm not so sure that I would want an account that big. Make sure you make it worth your while if you get my drift.

Kglenn04
10-20-2008, 01:25 AM
that is a lot of area for one man, If you are placing a bid make it a healthy one

1993lx172
10-20-2008, 01:28 AM
I don't think one 72" will cut it. you'd need either another 72" or two or a WAM.

I'd try a tractor with one of those turf bat-wing mowers, you could probably find one and a tractor used for a pretty good price

corey4671
10-20-2008, 02:28 AM
$50 should cover it...

jeffex
10-20-2008, 06:17 AM
you need an overlay of what 1 acre is at the scale of the sat. picture . get a price per acre and multiply. figure hours by the 80% rate on mfg website for your mower. Your best bet is to walk off an acre your self using points visible on the sat. photo like a tree or edge of school. The one thing a sat photo doesn't show is topograhy so account for hills and gulleys by an onsite inspection. For trimming and edging get a wheel that measures distance and time yourself how long it takes to edge 100 ft of sidewalk. time trimming as well. these are your baseline #'s . Now go and measure the total distance to be edged and trimmed onsite. when you've done your homework pad some time for getting there and a margin of error in estimating. Don't forget profit and equipment replacement costs . whalla! you've got a price

punt66
10-20-2008, 06:37 AM
One guy in our town cuts the high school, junior highschool, and all 4 elementary schools with a ztr. Up here there is no trimming and little if any blowing because he like i face the chute away from lots and streets. If your bidding on that its public information if they are public schools. So look it up.

heather lawn sp
10-20-2008, 07:23 AM
How long would you estimate to cut these two schools using a single 72" mower?

1.4 acres per hour
2.4 if no trimming involved


38 schools per cycle-18 cycles
140 acres
since 2003
JD 997

heather lawn sp
10-20-2008, 07:25 AM
$50 should cover it...

. . .per hour:rolleyes:

ALC-GregH
10-20-2008, 07:27 AM
Up here there is no trimming and little if any blowing because he like i face the chute away from lots and streets.

Say what? I ALWAYS blow the grass clipping in the street. Isn't that how you get rid of them? :D

heather lawn sp
10-20-2008, 07:30 AM
11 hours cut and trim & 4 hours cut and trim

Herrick
10-20-2008, 07:49 AM
Thanks for the helpful repiles...

Yes, it's a lot of area.

I already have my numbers submitted... I'll reveal what they were a little later.

1cooltreeguy
10-20-2008, 10:18 AM
We use WAM's - Deere 1600's...They would blow those things out quick and you'd be moving onto other properties the same day.

Herrick
10-20-2008, 10:25 AM
I've thought hard about a WAM, but I'm concerned about the machine being too big and cumbersome in some areas... too much turning and weaving to make it worth the investment. Plus I don't think most dealers have a spare WAM sitting around for when yours breaks down. I agree that it could knock a good portion of the open areas out in a hurry.

1cooltreeguy
10-20-2008, 10:31 AM
I've thought hard about a WAM, but I'm concerned about the machine being too big and cumbersome in some areas... too much turning and weaving to make it worth the investment. Plus I don't think most dealers have a spare WAM sitting around for when yours breaks down. I agree that it could knock a good portion of the open areas out in a hurry.

Dude, that just it!! These mowers are so reliable and maneuver like a zero turn when you get used to them. Get one and you will love it and the $$ you can make with it!! Also, lets just say your breaks - just use your 72" mowers until you get it fixed. I'm telling you, with the way the economy is you could pick up a good used one for about the same price I was quoted on a 60" - 27hp kohler Toro the other day - $8500. Unbelievable - Check it out. e

MOHUSTLER
10-20-2008, 03:53 PM
You can deffently do that with one person, esp if you have a free day or 2 in your scheduel. Just make it worth your time.

When I was getting started we did a 33 acre school with a 72" grasshopper. It took a while but I was just getting started in the business and it paid good.

ffemt1271
10-20-2008, 06:00 PM
i'd charge $2000, i'd take me almost 2 days to complete

Herrick
10-21-2008, 10:14 AM
Here are my time numbers... I'm not going to reveal my prices yet, as the bid has not been awarded.

These are actually 3 of 8 total schools in the district. Weekly mowing, limited trimming around buildings, no edging.

First picture is approxiamtely 31 acres of turf. I had figured 12.1 hours mowing, 1.5 hours trimming.
Second Pitcute is approximately 10 acres of turf. I had figured 3.9 hours mowing, and .5 hours trimming.

Total for all 8 schools there is around 77 acres of turf. With drive time I've got 38 hours a week figured. Hoping to get it done in less, more like 30 with the right equipment.

I've thought seriously about a WAM or a tractor and batwing mower, but thier productivity vs. cost just doesn't justify the purchase to me. A 72" zero turn can cut 2/3 of what these can in an hour, and use less fuel, trailer space, and a lot less investment.

Hope to know by the end of the week how the biding went. Got my fingers crossed.

Herrick
10-22-2008, 12:34 PM
Well, looks like I didn't get this one. It's not because of price either... they are convinced that I would not be able to handle the work.

lukemelo216
11-09-2008, 05:59 PM
it is probably a good thing..........i see you have almost 20 accounts.........you would probably have to drop them if u did the lawns for the schools. what happens the following year when the schools dont re-hire you. those 20 accounts your serviced are being serviced by the companies you beat out for a one year gig, and your screwed.