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Sym
10-20-2008, 06:00 PM
I picked up the new blower on Friday so I had to wait til today to really use. I did blow out my trailer and my truck over the weekend, but today was the first real use.

1. Comfort- extremely comfortable....lots of padding on the straps and the back. I have the 8510 and the 630 and the new one is far more comfortable then the previous 2.

2. Weight - it's a pound or 2 more than the 630 and a 2 less than the 8510 so it works for me.

3. Power - WOW....way stronger than the 630 and feels about the same as the 8510....I checked the site for specs and the volume at the nozzle is the same and it feels that way.

4. Design- Is along the same lines as the others but seems a little thinner but taller. This is of course meaningless. The tubing is nice....though a little long (and I am 6 ft) it was actually making my forearm sore holding it firmly. It is the same length as the 630, but thicker. It has a nozzle piece you can use if you take of the longer last section and replace it with said piece. With this on, it is the same length as the 8510.

So there you have it.....after one day. No idea about reliability (obviously) but I have had good luck with Shindaiwa.

Sym
10-21-2008, 03:59 PM
bump for those that missed it yesterday.

hillbilly_lawnboy
10-21-2008, 04:00 PM
what about fuel consumption?

Sym
10-21-2008, 04:23 PM
After 2 days, it seems to be the same as other 2 cycle blowers....no better, no worse. Of course, I am only familiar with Shindy and Echo.

K/B
10-21-2008, 04:31 PM
How would you rate comfort after a period of use on the EB802 vs. the EB8510?

Sym
10-21-2008, 04:37 PM
comfort on the 802 is FAR SUPERIOR to the 8510. There was something about the 8510 that always made my back sore if I had 3 or more yards at one stop...don't know if it was the couple of extra pounds or distribution of the weight that did it. THe main thing on the comfort level is all the extra padding on the straps and back...on the back, there is like an extra thick pad that sits on you lower back that is real comfortable.

bob
10-21-2008, 05:11 PM
What did you pay for your 802?

tamadrummer
10-21-2008, 05:52 PM
Are you ever in Hamilton Park or Palm Cove or Ashton Oaks or New River?

I don't have any accounts in Ashton Oaks or New River but I drive by both on my way to the others as well as Meadow Point. I would love to see the 802 if you have the time and don't mind.

Sym
10-21-2008, 05:55 PM
What did you pay for your 802?

$465 out the door. Reg price was $500. Shindy's promo price is $450. My dealer sold it to me for $435 plus tax.

Sym
10-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Are you ever in Hamilton Park or Palm Cove or Ashton Oaks or New River?

I don't have any accounts in Ashton Oaks or New River but I drive by both on my way to the others as well as Meadow Point. I would love to see the 802 if you have the time and don't mind.

Sure, I'm in Hamilton Park/New River on Wed morning(tomorrow) and in Palm Cove on Thur/Fri. Send me a message if that works for you

K/B
10-21-2008, 06:04 PM
$465 out the door. Reg price was $500. Shindy's promo price is $450. My dealer sold it to me for $435 plus tax.

Wow! That's an AWESOME price.

tamadrummer
10-21-2008, 06:04 PM
Sure, I'm in Hamilton Park/New River on Wed morning(tomorrow) and in Palm Cove on Thur/Fri. Send me a message if that works for you

I am in Hamilton tomorrow as well. I have to make my first stop at Palm Cove. It is my Green Care for troops yard and then I go to Hamilton. Probably be 10:30 or 11:00 or I can go into New River as I am passing it if you are there. I will PM you my number.

I have a super short day tomorrow since I have been getting my stuff done all on monday most weeks and we are not getting squat for rain....

advancedlandcare
10-28-2008, 05:19 PM
I just bought the new shinny eb802 a week ago. The day I bought it I decided to compare it to my redmax 8001. So I started it up blew around some leaves etc. It seemed not to rev quite as high as the redmax. I decided to do a test to see which one could blow harder. Supposedly the shindaiwa was supposed to be a little more powerful. I put a brick on an asphalt driveway placed the end of the blower right in front of the brick and throttled it up. I did this multiple times with both blowers. The redmax consistantly blew the brick a little further.
Now it may not be fair because the redmax is well broken in. So I gave the shindaiwa to my friend who works at a cemetary to break it in for a few days. I'm sure he'll put at least 10-12 good hours on it which should be adequate break in. I'll let you know if it performs any better. I'd like to do the same comparison with a stihl br600 if i get a chance. I saw a video with some stihl reps comparing blowers which i feel could be a little biased. Anyway, I'll let you all know anything and maybe I'll do some video clips of the tests too.

HenryB
10-28-2008, 07:03 PM
I just bought the new shinny eb802 a week ago. The day I bought it I decided to compare it to my redmax 8001. So I started it up blew around some leaves etc. It seemed not to rev quite as high as the redmax. I decided to do a test to see which one could blow harder. Supposedly the shindaiwa was supposed to be a little more powerful. I put a brick on an asphalt driveway placed the end of the blower right in front of the brick and throttled it up. I did this multiple times with both blowers. The redmax consistantly blew the brick a little further.
Now it may not be fair because the redmax is well broken in. So I gave the shindaiwa to my friend who works at a cemetary to break it in for a few days. I'm sure he'll put at least 10-12 good hours on it which should be adequate break in. I'll let you know if it performs any better. I'd like to do the same comparison with a stihl br600 if i get a chance. I saw a video with some stihl reps comparing blowers which i feel could be a little biased. Anyway, I'll let you all know anything and maybe I'll do some video clips of the tests too.

I've got ths Shindy, 8001 and ths Stihl 600. The 8001 is the most powerful hands down. They are all great blowers. But yes the 8001 blows hardest no doubt. Trust me

saustin99
11-12-2008, 03:15 PM
Does anyone have a great contact for buying on of the Shindaiwa in Connectciut (Hamden area)? Did not want to overpay but am ready to make the jump from Stihl (have got to know too much about the local service center). Perhaps am being naive that these will need any less service but have heard a lot of positive stuff.

thanks, Steve.

STIHL GUY
11-13-2008, 12:29 AM
sounds like a nice blower. around here all i ever see is STIHL and ECHO though

K/B
11-13-2008, 09:49 AM
sounds like a nice blower. around here all i ever see is STIHL and ECHO though

There are 30 Shindaiwa dealers within 30 miles of Hamden, CT, 17 being 5-Star Elite dealers. There's gotta be plenty of Shindaiwa equipment up there!

New Image Landscaping
11-16-2008, 01:11 AM
How are the shoulder pads on that bad boy?

saustin99
12-01-2008, 11:57 AM
I picked up the new blower on Friday so I had to wait til today to really use. I did blow out my trailer and my truck over the weekend, but today was the first real use.

1. Comfort- extremely comfortable....lots of padding on the straps and the back. I have the 8510 and the 630 and the new one is far more comfortable then the previous 2.

2. Weight - it's a pound or 2 more than the 630 and a 2 less than the 8510 so it works for me.

3. Power - WOW....way stronger than the 630 and feels about the same as the 8510....I checked the site for specs and the volume at the nozzle is the same and it feels that way.

4. Design- Is along the same lines as the others but seems a little thinner but taller. This is of course meaningless. The tubing is nice....though a little long (and I am 6 ft) it was actually making my forearm sore holding it firmly. It is the same length as the 630, but thicker. It has a nozzle piece you can use if you take of the longer last section and replace it with said piece. With this on, it is the same length as the 8510.

So there you have it.....after one day. No idea about reliability (obviously) but I have had good luck with Shindaiwa.

Sym, thanks for the feedback. Bought one this weekend and this may seem odd but, did you have to change clothes after using it? Really reaked of fumes and wondered if this would be normal. Otherwise liked it.

Sym
12-01-2008, 01:27 PM
Just got home and I smell fine (other than my normal aroma!!)... it was the only blower I used today...

saustin99
12-01-2008, 02:14 PM
Just got home and I smell fine (other than my normal aroma!!)... it was the only blower I used today...

heh heh heh, thanks Sym. What could have caused the major exhaust fumes?
Poor fuel/oil mixture, break-in period?

Sym
12-01-2008, 03:11 PM
not really sure, I'm not exactly mechanically inclined. Call your mechanic and ask them...there should be no reason excessive exhaust...maybe the 2 reasons you put forth, but that would be a poor choice for a manufacturer to make when introducing a new product that it would be common for that to happen. You could try a different mix first and see what happens.

saustin99
12-01-2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks, have also heard of these "smokeless" oil additives which i can try. When they were testing the unit at the dealer they may of only used fuel in there and noticed no fumes.

lawnprosteveo
12-02-2008, 11:04 PM
My dealer says they are discontinuing the EB630 and replacing it with the 802. Nothing against the 802 but the EB630 has been great for me.

Seems harder and harder to find Shindaiwa dealers. Even my dealer is carrying less and less it seems.

Looking to possibly make a switch to Echo or Stihl.

K/B
12-03-2008, 07:01 AM
My dealer says they are discontinuing the EB630 and replacing it with the 802. Nothing against the 802 but the EB630 has been great for me.

Seems harder and harder to find Shindaiwa dealers. Even my dealer is carrying less and less it seems.

Looking to possibly make a switch to Echo or Stihl.

The EB630 is a VERY old model, (but very reliable). It was high time for a new model, also 802 is "cleaner" (emissions).

Greenboy24
12-03-2008, 11:00 AM
They're replacing the 630 with the 633....the 802 has been added to the lineup and sometime next year the 8520 will replace the 8510 as the c4 model very similar in design to the 802

kps2389
12-03-2008, 01:29 PM
Well I bought a new 802 about a month and half ago. It uses a lot less fuel then my 630 and has a lot more power. The only thing I don't like is the vents they put around the impeller to keep the leaves out. The leaves still get in there and you cant get them out like with the 630. Other then that its a great blower. The price is pretty good too.

K/B
12-03-2008, 09:57 PM
They're replacing the 630 with the 633....the 802 has been added to the lineup and sometime next year the 8520 will replace the 8510 as the c4 model very similar in design to the 802

Actually, the EB802 was introduced to replace the EB630, but then the Echo deal came up and the EB633 was inserted into the lineup, but hadn't been intended as a EB630 replacement.

Greenboy24
12-03-2008, 10:43 PM
Actually, the EB802 was introduced to replace the EB630, but then the Echo deal came up and the EB633 was inserted into the lineup, but hadn't been intended as a EB630 replacement.

Yeah, but the 633 IS replacing the 630 and the 802 IS being added........

kps2389
12-03-2008, 11:00 PM
The 802 is basically the same thing as the 8510 with a few changes its not completely new.

K/B
12-04-2008, 07:13 AM
The 802 is basically the same thing as the 8510 with a few changes its not completely new.

Actually, no, it's a completely different engine. The 8510 is a 4-stroke, and 802 is a 2-stroke.

Greenboy24
12-04-2008, 12:03 PM
The 802 is basically the same thing as the 8510 with a few changes its not completely new.

The only similarities are the specs, thtas it EVERYTHING else is different.....I have both

sven1277
12-04-2008, 09:05 PM
I picked up 3 802's last month. Two replaced old echos and one was a replacement from shindy for an 8510 that had constant engine problems. I like them a lot. Very comfortable compared to the others. Power is great as expected, same as the 8510, little more than my old echo 751.

genesis215
01-11-2009, 01:03 PM
How is everyone liking their 802 compared to the BR 600?

thisismurph
01-13-2009, 02:48 AM
would you say that the 802 is any quieter than the eb630 ??

lawnprosteveo
01-13-2009, 09:35 AM
would you say that the 802 is any quieter than the eb630 ??I read somewhere that the 802 is supposed to have a hush mode thatll knock the decibel level to 65. Anyone know anything about that?

KarambaStar
01-13-2009, 09:40 AM
I read somewhere that the 802 is supposed to have a hush mode thatll knock the decibel level to 65. Anyone know anything about that?

Yes, it basically brings the engine RPM's down to an acceptable noise level. Awesome feature for operators that work in areas with noise level limits. Obviously, the performance will be lower.

Tennesseepowerstroke
10-19-2009, 02:01 AM
How is everyone liking their 802 compared to the BR 600?

Just curious how everyone feels about this after a season. How have the 802's done compared to the BR 600? Would like to hear comments from operators that have both.

PLS-Tx
10-19-2009, 02:12 AM
Just curious how everyone feels about this after a season. How have the 802's done compared to the BR 600? Would like to hear comments from operators that have both.

I would like to here from those that have both also.

genesis215
10-19-2009, 01:27 PM
Get the EB802. I have a BR 600, and wish I had gotten the EB802 instead. Or even the Echo PB-755. The engine runs great, and I don't have issues like other people have with valves becuase I use Amsoil and 93-octane fuel, but just replacing the primer bulb caused an already growing problems with idling to become far worse. These BR 600 blowers are HARD to work on, and the Zama carbs are junk. Welch plugs dissolving because of ethanol, and the fuel lines crack easily. The Shindaiwa and Echo both use Walbro carbs, which are much more reliable, and don't have troubles with ethanol fuel like the Zama. Also they are both true 2-stroke, so you can count on them to start and run great, all day every day, for many years with very little maintenance.

dave k
10-19-2009, 05:13 PM
On my Shiny, a couple things I noticed was when you first start it up, it takes a few minutes to warm up.
Also the torque on this when I have full throttle is puts more pressure on my right hip I think, I took out my spark arrestor.
It is comfortable, as far as dealers, Echo bought Shiny out so any Echo dealer may start to carry the Shiny brand.
I have a old shiny string trimmer over 20 years and I retired it for cutting down ornamental grasses.

Tennesseepowerstroke
10-21-2009, 12:24 AM
Get the EB802. I have a BR 600, and wish I had gotten the EB802 instead. Or even the Echo PB-755. The engine runs great, and I don't have issues like other people have with valves becuase I use Amsoil and 93-octane fuel, but just replacing the primer bulb caused an already growing problems with idling to become far worse. These BR 600 blowers are HARD to work on, and the Zama carbs are junk. Welch plugs dissolving because of ethanol, and the fuel lines crack easily. The Shindaiwa and Echo both use Walbro carbs, which are much more reliable, and don't have troubles with ethanol fuel like the Zama. Also they are both true 2-stroke, so you can count on them to start and run great, all day every day, for many years with very little maintenance.

Thanks for the input. I found a dealer today that wanted to make a sale. I bought the 802 for $459 and got them to throw in 6 bottles of Shindaiwa 1 oil, a Shindaiwa "water keg", and 2 Sendec maintenance minder meters that I plan to install on 2 of my mowers. The best I could do on the BR600 was $10 of the suggested retail [$499]. I was leaning to the 802 and this dealer made the final decision easy.

bigredd
10-25-2009, 12:15 PM
I narrowed my search to the Shindaiwa EB802 and Stihl BR600. Both were very comfortable, good quality and high power. The tube connections and throttle controls on the EB802 seemed flimsy compared compared to the BR600. The EB802's flex tube seems to be more durable than the Stihl. Valve adjustment is not a concern because I can easily do that myself for the cost of a valve gasket.

Deciding factor was a local Stihl dealer running an annual sale this weekend. Got the BR600 for $415. The Shindy dealers would not budge 1 cent on price.