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Tonkatoys
10-21-2008, 11:51 PM
Hi guys, I know someone here will have an answer for me. I'm going to get a CAT 305C CR and want to know if it's ok to tow it on a 14K GVWR Pequea T200 tilt trailer. I'll be pulling it with an 08 Ford F350 Superduty with the 6.4 L turbo diesel. Please let me know if I'm crazy.

Dirt Digger2
10-21-2008, 11:59 PM
whats it weigh?

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:01 AM
305 c cr is about 13k lbs.

have you run the 305 for long?

you must not have serious work to be doing if thats the machine of choice, i was disapointed in power from the 305.

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:03 AM
the excavator is about 12k

Dirt Digger2
10-22-2008, 12:03 AM
nevermind i looked it up....11,500 pounds will be pushing it on a bumper pull with a 350. Is it a single or dual wheel truck? You could easily do it with a gooseneck. The most i have ever towed with a 350 dump was around 12,000 and that included the weight of the trailer, you will however need to get a CDL if you are pulling that kind of weight for commercial (you get paid for it) reasons

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:07 AM
I haven't purchased it yet. This wouldn't be for professional use. It would be for my personal use. I will be using it for my own landscaping on my property.

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:08 AM
It's a single wheel truck.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:12 AM
if you dont plan on pulling it alot i wouldnt hesitate to pull it with that set up. if i was moving it 3 times a week i may think twice.

are you buying new?

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:13 AM
I was planning on buying a new machine. My local CAT dealer has a really good deal going until the end of the year.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:15 AM
what state are you in? whats the $$$ they want for it?

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:19 AM
I'm in NY, and the price I was quoted was $56,495. For a long stick, with Cab/AC. From what I have read here, that is a pretty good deal for a CAT. I got a price on a Kubota KX161-3 of $58750. I was pretty surprised that the price offered on the CAT was that low for a new machine.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:23 AM
thats not a bad price. i got one priced at around 55k but it had a pin grabber and hydro thumb.

the 305 was just to small to do "real" work, i just got a price on a komatsu pc88-8 for $107,000.

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:30 AM
yeah...I would love to get a big ass machine, but to be honest, I just want to play around with it. I don't want to get a CDL license. Pulling some stumps, planting trees, moving rocks, stuff like that. I'm not a professional and this machine will be babied. I test drove the Komatsu PC50 and the CAT and found the CAT to be much smoother. The CAT also felt a bit stronger. Maybe it was just the extra comfy cab that made me think so. The other CAT dealer in the general area quoted me 75k! I imagine that was list price.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:32 AM
i will second that, the cab is NICE

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:35 AM
but I sat in a 88 Dash 8 while I was at the Komatsu dealer. That is a sweet machine. I love the control systems on that machine. My wife would divorce me if came home with that. I'm still not sure how I'm even gonna get the 305 home! This is what happens when you don't get enough sandbox time as a kid.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:37 AM
i spoke with a dealer/rental place in NY not to long ago that had a used 304c cr for sale i belive he wanted 35k for it. the wife may aprove of that.

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:39 AM
I've rented machines before...I don't want to own one that has been rented. I'd rather pay more for a new one. Wifey won't ask how much it costs, just why the hell I need one!

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:45 AM
i wouldnt buy one with out a thumb from the sounds of what you will be using it for. i would use that as the ace up your sleeve, beat them on the price and then at the last minute say you want a thumb to for that price. they will go for it its right before winter.

Tonkatoys
10-22-2008, 12:47 AM
Great advice! I knew that this would be the place to right the straight answers. I have been here for a while just reading everyone's comments. Great place for knowledge. Thanks to all.

P.Services
10-22-2008, 12:52 AM
read threw this post of what i thought after my demo of the 305. lots of info from others in the thread.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=247442

Gravel Rat
10-22-2008, 01:42 AM
If its for your own use and you are not moving it around why bother even worrying about moving it. Hire a truck if you need to move it then you never need to worry about a trailer.

A contractor in the next town from where I'am has a 305 and moves it on a triaxle single wheel gooseneck behind a 3/4 ton. A gooseneck will handle the weight better but you still have to worry about stopping the load.

mrsops
10-22-2008, 02:42 AM
i put my cat 305ccr on top of my international 4300 tow truck

AWJ Services
10-22-2008, 08:06 AM
Hyd Thumb, quick coupler and angle blade are a must for me.
I am not sure if Cat offers the angle blade or not.

When you demo the machine demo one with Long stick ,quick coupler and hyd thumb because it makes a difference on the machines digging ability.
Thats alot of added weight and it really makes a difference.

As far as pulling that weight you will be over CDL according too Federal regulations.
Some states relax there regulations for private use.

A goose neck will be a better choice for a trailer.

bobcat_ron
10-22-2008, 11:57 AM
A GN is a better choice, you can get more of the weight on the truck, instead of behind it where it will whip all over the place on the highways. Look for a GN trailer with a 16,000 pound loaded capacity, just in case you need to carry some extra toys or supplies.