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MOW ED
02-11-2002, 05:14 PM
Is it acceptable to copy and paste pictures from a site if there is no copyright restrictions on the site?

I see lots of neat things on different sites and would like to use these on mine. What are the restrictions involved? I always check to see if there are copyright restrictions or symblos of copyrighted material.

Also how do you lock your pictures so they cant be copied?
Finally what do you have to do to copyright a site and is it effective???

Thanks

Stonehenge
02-11-2002, 06:30 PM
Mow - lemme get this straight - you wanna steal 'em, but you don't want 'em stolen from you? :cool:

As for making them steal proof? Can't be done. I don't think, anyway. I dunno - give me one you think can't be stolen. Bet I can do it.

As for copyrights, I dunno that, either. There may be presumed copyrights on stuff on the net, even if they don't spell it out for you.

A better bet is to ask to use images. Some places do. Then again, some don't.

But to make sure you aren't caught, should you decide to sink into the realm of lawlessness, is make sure you have the image, and not just the link to the image. Then you'll be pulling someone else's bandwidth, not to mention they'll probably find you.

BigJim
02-11-2002, 08:28 PM
I can't understand why sites post pictures and dont want them copied,you put stuff on the web people are gonna copy it,like Stonehenge says its easy to download most pictures,its easy to cover watermarks etc..why bother, if I was posting pictures I'd just have a small logo on it and say help your selves.If you see your pictures posted on a web site in Mongolia what you gonna be able to do about anyway,Internet law is still murky at best in most countries and non existant in others.

heygrassman
02-11-2002, 09:56 PM
When in doubt, ask. Kinda like permission to hunt along another's property line, just in case that whitetail runs a little farther than expected.

Most non-commercial sites will allow uses of images for credit given or a link to their website.

jf

NewOrleans
02-15-2002, 12:57 PM
I hope I am pasting these right, if not then figure it out.

http://www.javafile.com/websitetool.php?cat=Website+Tools

The above link goes to a page that offers free scripts. The ones like "NoRightClick...etc." help but do not eliminate image theft.

http://www.javafile.com/games/lunar/lunar.php?cat=Fun+and+Games
I will have to include this to my web site. It is off topic, but too darn neat not to include.

plow kid
02-20-2002, 03:28 PM
copy that and paste it on your html page at the end and right clicks will be eliminated

I cant attach it or paste it here because html code is turned on e-mail me if you want it

LoneStarLawn
02-20-2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by plow kid
I cant attach it or paste it here because html code is turned on ...

Yes you can you just need to know how to do it...

<!-- Start of no right click script -->

<script language="JavaScript">

<!--
// No rightclick script.
// Find more great scripts and applets at the JavaFile!
// http://www.javafile.com
// Do not delete this header!


// Put your message for the alert box between the quotes.
var message="Sorry, we don't allow that on this site!.";
// Don't edit below!

function click(e) {
if (document.all) {
if (event.button == 2) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
if (document.layers) {
if (e.which == 3) {
alert(message);
return false;
}
}
}
if (document.layers) {
document.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEDOWN);
}
document.onmousedown=click;
// -->

</script>

<!-- End of no right click script -->

plow kid
02-20-2002, 10:19 PM
Thanks Alan, I wondered what the PHP was for, thanks again ~NaTe

GrassMaster
03-18-2002, 12:52 PM
Hello:

The minute anything is saved by means of Electronic Duplication, Computer Disk, Published in or on print, Saved on Computer or Uploaded to the Internet it's Automatically Copyrighted by Law. With or Without Copyright Notice. A Fact Jack!

It's just made more legit if you go through all the Trouble of Actually getting it Copyrighted. But I don't Really see it neccessary myself!

But in Most cases it's really a bunch of crap if Somebody Actually thinks that they are really going to go to the Trouble of Fighting Someone over a Picture or 2. It's Just Lame Talk, no more or No less!

Because 999 Lawyers out of a 1,000 have no clue how to even go about fighting something like this but 99 out of a 100 would be more than glad to milk you for a lot of Bucks trying to fight it for you? You would probably know as much as them about that?

BTW: If someone steals your Pics Contact them, tell them that they are copyrighted, then tell them to remove them in say 7 days, tell them that they can use them if they Provide a link back to you & Or if they haven't removed them in say 10 days, contact their web Host & they will take care of it for you in most cases. If not there is other things that can be done! LOL :)

Things to thing about?
I have 3 different Software Programs that I could point toward your Domain Name & I can Download your whole web site.

I would never do that to any one but yes I can with or with out the Java Script or your Permission. That Java Script only Stops People that Own a Puter & Know how to sign on to the Internert. These are the same ones that Continually get Viruses.

Now Look at all the Jokes, Funny Pics & Porno Websites out there. Most of them Have a Lot of the Same Pictures, yes it's in Violation of Copyright. But...

Not to many folks going to fight it. I do not think one out of a Million in the Green Industry would. I don't even think there is a Million, see what I mean?

But Why would you want to go to all the Trouble of Building a Web Site with your Content & then put somebody elses Pics on there?

You can buy Paint Shop Pro for way less than a $100 & build your own graphics. Yes it's a Hard Learning Curve, but that's what it's all about.

The Internet is not that Easy, It's not like Borrowing your Dads Truck, Rake & stealing a Bunch of Garbage Bags from your Mom, making $20 to $50 an hour & 3 Years Later you've got a $300,000 Lawn Service Business.

I took a $750 Truck, that I already owned for years, a $80 Crapsman weedeater, $300 Snapper Rider, a gas can & 2 - 8 ft 2X6's & 5 years later Walked off with over $100,000 cash in my pocket not including Material things. (Shop ($20K & still had over $10K in Equipment left over to sell.

I can't do it now but I've Posted at other Forums Quite a Few ways to Start up a Lawn sevice for Free & How to start one for less than $50 for Equipment & having Money Left over for Operating Capital? LOL, It can be Done because I've seen it done? :) It's the Same with Internet Companys.

The Internet Seperates the Men from the Boys. 98 percent of all ventures fail on the Internet. The 2 percent that make it, make over 98 percent of all money made on the Interet?

To Succeed at any thing you must Learn & Pay your Dues.

DaveK
04-05-2002, 10:59 PM
First of all, you CAN use copyrighted images...kinda. If you change 70% (i think it is 70) of the original image, you can claim it as your own. But then after changing 70%, you may as well have created it yourself.:D

As for the "no right click script," don't even bother. All it does is stop the users that don't know anything about webpages. And it makes it harder for me to open links in a new window, which really annoys me. :)

If you think it stops anyone from viewing the source code, they can always use the menu at the top (in IE, VIEW - SOURCE CODE) or, they can just turn off javascript in their browser and your silly little code means nothing to the browser.

If you think it stops people from "taking" your images, think again, if they can see it on their screen, it is already on their hard-drive. Not to mention pressing the "print screen" button, then opening your graphics program and choosing EDIT - PASTE. This is the fastest and easiest way.

All you can really do is to make it as difficult as possible for them to use your source code by encoding it. There are many html encoders available for free. But, If anyone wants your code bad enough, they can get it. Just like locks on your doors, it only stops the semi-honest people, it won't stop a thief.

To copyright a site, just put "Copyright 2002, your name"
To copy-protect a site, wake up, your dreaming. :D

The Internet Seperates the Men from the Boys. 98 percent of all ventures fail on the Internet. The 2 percent that make it, make over 98 percent of all money made on the Interet? I'm not sure how that relates to anything here. A website for a lawncare company (or 99% of other small businesses) isn't about "making money on the Internet", It is a form of advertising. You will never make money placing an advertisement anywhere, you goal is to increase the income that you are making in the real world (aka advertising)

NewOrleans
05-29-2002, 11:38 AM
...Just Joking

This site has copy protection that places a scrolling message or image over the pic. If it is copy/pasted the little logo or pic will be captured over the photo. I guess you could still edit the pic to cover it up or crop it or something.

http://www.cellspark.com/P2.html

I don't think that I would spend the time or money for something like this, but it seems like pretty cool copy protection. Perhaps there is something like it out for free or less money.

uh huh... right...

DaveK
05-29-2002, 09:45 PM
It took me under 3 minutes took take two screen captures, one with the &copy; image on just the top half, and one with it on the bottom. A little cut and paste, and tada.... an image without the &copy; graphic.

With all this fear that people have about others copying their images, it makes me wonder how many people are aware that at ANY time, you can press the "print screen" button on the keyboard..... then launch your favorite graphics program and choose edit... paste as new image...

It couldn't get any easier. :)

TooLPrincessBlaze
05-30-2002, 09:43 PM
oh don't do that, it pisses people off. I you are going to, you should E-Mail them and ask them, most people will let you use them, provided you give credit and sometimes provide a link to there site. Most just don't want the stuff that they personally made stolen and reused and other people claiming credit for it.
:angel:

DaveK
05-30-2002, 10:26 PM
Princess, I didn't say that I would, just that I could.... :)

Just trying to make a point that it is sensless to waste time and/or money trying to copy-[B]protect[B] an image.

NewOrleans
05-31-2002, 03:22 AM
How about one of the full sized images on this page?

http://www.invisitec.com/invisitec/protec_demo_ns1.shtml#

Not the thumbnails, the full size images.

DaveK
06-01-2002, 02:38 PM
That wasn't a challenge... :)

Again, less than 3 minutes.

This protection was a little better than the last. But Paint Shop Pro has this cool ability to capture the screen. Simple go into capture mode, view the image, and right click. Done deal, captured and opened and ready to crop etc.

Trying to protect images is a waste of time. (And money if you buy Invistec)
If you can see it on the screen, it can be captured/copied.

BTW, I got a kick out of Invisitec's disclaimer:
"Disclaimer of Warranty

Invisitec makes no claims on any of its products with regards to protecting everything 100%. That is an impossibility in today's technology, as there are too many variables that come into play..."



http://www.readyforawebsite.com/plowsite/capture.jpg

NewOrleans
06-03-2002, 12:11 AM
It took me 45 min. just to find a picture that was so well protected. I give up, the man is right, nothing is safe. If you want to keep it, keep it off the Internet. Case Closed!

nelbuts
12-28-2002, 12:11 AM
NewOrleans,
I put it on it in My Pictures in about 45 seconds!
Easiest way to at least prove that you have copywrite on something is this. Put your little circle C on print copywrite date at bottom. Then send yourself the entire page by email. Print your email that can serve as hard copy. Then save your email to disc. You now have date and time of first usage to prove your case.
When you said that 98% don't make money you were probably right. What you failed to state was that of the 2% that does 98% of those are porn sites!! That is supported by the fact that the top internet earners are those type of junk.:eek:

Dunn's
08-27-2006, 11:46 PM
Can you really copyright something this easy I thought you had to send a copy of it off to the government and pay a fee for copryrighting.

olderthandirt
08-28-2006, 12:05 AM
Can you really copyright something this easy I thought you had to send a copy of it off to the government and pay a fee for copryrighting.

WOW this is an old thread, most all of the members/poster have moved on.