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morning dew
02-13-2002, 12:39 PM
How are you guys getting your flyer's to homes?

Are you using some sort of mailing list or just walking door to door and putting the flyers in the front door?

Jesse

Heavenly Green
02-13-2002, 01:42 PM
You got it Door to Door with my 5000. doorknob hangers Im
starting on the 15th of this month and Ill do A second round in
mid march through mid april Ive got 40 openings for new accounts
and hope to be booked by end of april for a total of 80 contracts

What part of MI are You targeting? If anywhere near me
Ive got 20 accounts that Im ditching due to consolidating my
routs to specific subdivisions not for sale just to give to somone
whos going to take care of them People have helped me start
so just to return favors "What goes around comes around" My
golden rule.







Steve @S&S Heavenly Green Lawns:cool:

JimLewis
02-13-2002, 02:29 PM
Well typically we walk the neighborhoods and place the flyers on doors. This is the least expensive option of all. I get copies made for 2 cents a piece and I can lay about 1000 per day, with two of us. Not including my time, the only out of pocket costs to lay 1000 flyers are $20 for copies and about $80 in labor.

We are mailing some post cards out this year just as a test. But like I always knew, they are WAY more expensive than door-to-door flyers. I am just trying it out. I recommend the door-to-door method unless you have plenty of money to spend.

outrunjason
02-13-2002, 03:10 PM
Same here going to walk door to door. I am going to promote my spring clean-up hard on my set of flyers that I will deliver here in the next week. Then In Mid March promote the maintnence end of it. I to am looking to fill 40 more lawns this year.

I make my walk fun to the houses. Me and my partner walk on each side of the street. We have voice activated headsets and can carry on a conversation while we deliver flyers and we don't have to pay anyone.

Watch out for the dogs!

Jason

lamblawnscaping
02-13-2002, 03:26 PM
Just got 5000 door hangers myself, two color front and back with coupons and a perforated tear off business card at the bottom. They cost alot more than regular fliers (about 10 cents each), but we are targeting more upscale areas this year. In neighborhoods that have long driveways most homes will have a newspaper box by mailbox, so you can just drive around and have a passenger slide them in the box (they fit nicely). Where the driveways aren't too long they go on the doors. We are thinking about getting two of those motorized scooters to pass out the fliers in neighborhoods where alot of walking is required. Last year we used bikes.

JimLewis
02-13-2002, 05:53 PM
Lamb,

I'd be cautious using the Newspaper boxes for flyers. I did a test marketing on that one time and placed about 500 flyers in newspaper holders and another 500 on doors and I got ZERO calls from the ones in the newspaper boxes and quite a few (like 10 or so) from the ones on the doors. I also found that the ones in the newspaper boxes sat there for ages and / or eventually blew out with the wind. A lot of people don't check those. And a lot of people don't subscribe to the paper, even though they have a box.

I understand your reasoning. It's a pain walking down the long driveways or up the 2 story stairways to get to the door sometimes. But we always do it these days. I always make sure it gets placed on the door.

mikey
02-13-2002, 07:28 PM
hi
im starting out this spring and im going to target very upscale house areas only like cul-de sacs and those typr of places...i landscaped this past summer and fall and used local classifieds and got a lot of calls(suprisingly)i was asked t do a leaf removal job for an old lady in early 80's she was very nice...at the time i had no clue how to bid (+ i was baggin all the leafs and stuffing them into my ford xplorer)her yard was so filled with leafs that u couldnt see the grass or the sidewalk?So like an idiot i told her i could remove all her leafs for $55?i should have charged $175-225 easy?but i felt bad u know...So now i want people who want good work and dont mind payin...Do u think i can do this with a more upscale cliantel?any advice?

thanks

LawnLad
02-13-2002, 07:49 PM
Similar to what Jim is saying... the problem with newspaper boxes beyond the fact that no one checks them is that your competition may not be fair and may take your flyers when they leave their flyer.

Go to the door, make the extra effort. Other contractors are not going to, they'll stick in the box and yours will be just one of many.

Whatever you do... just don't put them in teh mail box. You'll get a call quicker than you can say Post Master, warning you of fines if you continue to put non us mail in the post boxes. Technically they're US Govt. Property.

lamblawnscaping
02-13-2002, 08:36 PM
Thanks Jim and Lawnlad,

I had not even thought about those aspects of placing the door hangars in the newspaper box. Come to think of it years ago, when I was in high school I placed a bunch of flyers in newspaper boxes and got little to no response. Again, thanks you may have saved me alot of money. Those door hangers are expensive.

MATTHEW
02-13-2002, 10:06 PM
I did the door to door thing before and dropped 500-600 in a day of walking.
Last week, I dropped 250 in 2 hrs.
I stayed nice and warm in the truck going from mailbox to mailbox.
Most everyone had a paper there, since it was 8:00 am, so I slid the flyer into the paper.
Very upscale area. We'll see what happens.

plow kid
02-13-2002, 11:02 PM
occasionaly I stop @ a news paper machine, pay 50 cents and take a paper out but before I close the door I stick a flier in each paper:p . I usualy get my little bro to round up 5 or 6 of his friends and just go nuts in a subdevision, in 1 hour 5 kids and me put 450 fliers! spent $20.00 on Ice Cream and a trip to the arcade, talk about cheap advertizing.~NaTe

JimLewis
02-14-2002, 12:06 AM
That's the way to do it, Nate!!! I love it. :D

landscaper3
02-14-2002, 12:55 AM
We distribute around 2500 plus door hangers! Someone mentioned a good piece of advise! dont put them in the paper boxes, most people dont even look in them. Go to the door and if its a long private drive bring a thump tac or clip to put on the post (the post only) of the mail box or do a direct mailing to that home. After our snow season is done and it starts to warm up we get the employees out there in the trucks hitting as many as possible. Ill try for 3000 this year. If we get another 12 to 20 or more accounts it will be money worth spent!

Plowguy99
02-27-2002, 01:07 AM
I've got a question. For everyone who goes door to door do you put the flyers in door hangers or do you just kind of close them in the door? Also, where is the cheapest place to get door hangers? I spent quite a bit of time last week stuffing flyers in paper boxes and I can definatly see the advantage to putting them on the doors. It might take longer I guess but I am not doing anything since there is no snow to plow!

Thanks.

JimLewis
02-27-2002, 02:13 AM
Well, we always roll up the 8.5" x 11" flyer into a tube with our company name showing.

Most of the door handles in the newer, upscale neighborhoods that we target are either this kind;
http://www.danheller.com/images/Ireland/Shannon/Princess/door-handle.jpg

or this kind;
http://www.thornemetals.com/home_hardware_latches_latch2_medium.JPG

In the first case, we place the tube behind the door handle and let it go. Then as it unwinds it get stuck behind the handle.

Basically the same with the second kind. Slip it through the handle and let go.

When we come across houses with the old fashioned door knobs like this;
http://www.harrisonburg.k12.va.us/water/1-resources/simple-machines/door-knob.jpg
we place the tube in between the door knob and the door frame. Again, let go, and the flyer stays where it's put.

In every case, the flyer usually stays put until someone either comes to the door from the outside or opens it from the inside. If it falls when they open it, they notice the motion and go to grab it.

Another good option is using small strips of scotch tape. But I've never felt the need for that.

MOW ED
02-27-2002, 10:42 AM
I use newspaper holders on the mailbox but my strategy is to follow the person that is delivering the papers. They start at 4 am and are done around 7. It is a good strategy as the flyers are only placed in boxes that get papers and I can run down the street on the wrong side of the road without much threat of traffic. All the cops know me so I guess i have an unfair advantage but I only do this on sidestreets.

I make it look like the flyer was placed in the paper and I have gotten lots of work from doing this in targeted areas. Otherwise my kids train for the 5 k run by running up and down the streets and placing the flyers in doors. Sweat equity.

Bob Minney
02-27-2002, 11:35 AM
Just walking door to door. Starting early help get you in shape for the work you are going to be doing.

Plowguy99
02-27-2002, 12:53 PM
Thank You