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GLC
02-13-2002, 06:57 PM
Has anyone seen the new product line from John Deere? I have but want others input. Have not driven one but will be checking them out. If anyone has already seen and or rode one, how r they? Will the stand up to the legendary John Deere name? Thanks everyone!!!!!!

65hoss
02-13-2002, 07:12 PM
They bought Great Dane. Many of the products are now made by Dane. I would think that this being the case the quality would be better.

lee b
02-13-2002, 08:07 PM
I have seen one new Deere z, the 757, didn't get a chance to demo it. Looks real good, I really liked the foot-lift for the deck. I think they'll be good machines, my M665 z has been great so far.

mdb landscaping
02-13-2002, 08:08 PM
i saw the new line up in the turf mag the other day. i didnt understand why john deere included the new john deere stander(great dane) in their lineup, but later in the mag great dane had an ad for their walkbehind? ill be interested to see how people like them as well.

Martino
02-13-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by mdb landscaping
i saw the new line up in the turf mag the other day. i didnt understand why john deere included the new john deere stander(great dane) in their lineup, but later in the mag great dane had an ad for their walkbehind? ill be interested to see how people like them as well.

The Great Dane line will still be sold; you do not have to be a JD dealer to sell Great Dane. Deere has incorporated a few of the GD built mowers into the "green" line-up.

FrankenScagMachines
02-13-2002, 08:22 PM
Lee,
I worked 16 hours a week last summer for a deere dealer, and they had probly 5 acres or so, a chain link fence along the highway (one side only, it was at an intersection though) and a small fenced in part for riding mowers etc. I was basically maintenance, cleaning around the building and mowing. It took a whole 8 hour day for mowing (using JD curved shaft trimmer around everything and moving alot of riding mowers and utility tractors) and they had me use a 2001 demo model M655, with the 25hp Kohler and 54" 7 iron deck. Nice mower but it didn't stripe at all unless you got the spacing just right and not well even then. The rear wheels needed moved in a little or a little more cut width. Anyhow, can you stripe with yours??? I guess if you got the touch just right maybe.... I liked the machine itself but did not care for the cut very well at all... Otherwise it seems alot like some other ztr's out there like Bush Hog brand is just like it and many others. I also did not like the seat too well. A better seat with springs is a $500 option.... to me it should be standard since this thing mows at 9mph...
"later now" (quoted from 'awm' lol ...)
Eric

TLS
02-13-2002, 08:52 PM
By the looks of the 2' x 3' fold-out ad in Turf Magazine, the 757 seems to have a real nice thick padded seat compared to the others. Looks a little hokey with the wrap around plastic from tank to tank, but I do like the foot lift and what looks to be an infinate height adjustment dial (is it infinate?). Dont like the thin front ribbed tires (loose the ribs, it isn't a condom!) or the way too long caster bolts. Thats about all I can see from the pics in the ad.

The Quick-Trac looks identical to a Dane, only green and yellow.

If you've seen the ad I'm talking about, whats up with the goofy pickup/dragster pulling a trailer??? Leaves a bad/cheap feeling in my head. If they would go with a serious/work attitude with their ads, some more of "US" would take notice without laughing out loud!!! LOL

Oh well, one of these years they'll catch back up, maybe then I'll look back to Green and Yellow again.

lee b
02-14-2002, 07:52 PM
Bushhogboy, where I'm at in south Georgia, you can't stripe grass with any mower. My M665 has been good for me, thinking about demoing a new Deere, may get one to replace a tractor mower.

GLS
02-14-2002, 08:27 PM
If you've seen the ad I'm talking about, whats up with the goofy pickup/dragster pulling a trailer??? Leaves a bad/cheap feeling in my head.
I saw that truck with the 8 exaust pipes (probly not real) and spoiler etc. too. Looks like it must be a GMC 1/2 ton. They also have a dodge on the other side though...not really heavy duty but they didn't put all that crap on it.

I think they have a nice lookin lineup.

Hey bushhog - how did you get a job with JD when your only 14? I wish they'd let me do that:D

Mowingman
02-14-2002, 08:54 PM
I got to see the new Deere 757 ztr yesterday at a dealer open house here. It looks nice,has some improvements from the old m665. but they failed to correct the biggest design flaw. Improvements are: nicer seat,
; foot lift for deck; stacked sheaves at rear center of deck are redesigned so belt can not be pulled under bottom sheave when it comes off; better guarding to prevent mule drive pulleys from dragging on ground. Major design blunders: massive wraparound guard for rear of machine will crumple first time you back into something as it is not very heavy metal; same cheap,flimsey spindle shafts are used as on old m665. I think I will pass. Maybe they will get it right next time. BTW, list price is about $9,600.00 for the 757.:(

walker-talker
02-15-2002, 03:29 AM
While the attention of John Deere users are here, I have an unrelated question. I few years ago, when I bought the business, came with it was a JD 48" walk behind. I can not find the model # anywhere, just "Tri-cycler" printed in between the pistol grips. There is a metal plate attached to the unit that says "48" commercial walk behind". Can you tell me what the model# is? Also, can I run doubles on this machine? Its equipped with a 14hp Kaw.

Thanks
MATT

FrankenScagMachines
02-15-2002, 07:47 AM
Lee, if you're not striping it seemed like a good mower to me... but the seat. at the time i didn't really know there were foot lifts so i guess it did not make any difference. i did kinda wish it had power lift but with foot pedal for it that may be ok. i dunno. if it had a 60" deck, i bet it would stripe ok...

0bryan0, I got friends in low places!!! This place is a 4 or 5 store chain and I know one of their best mechanics at the next town up who gave me a good reference. And another reputable local mechanic was a reference too, i did some work for him as well. Just go ask for a application, and if they need help, they might hire you. They could tell i was a decent kid, but they had just fired another kid who was moving a ute. tractor with a box blade on it and the top link of the 3pt. was not hooked up and he backed up and busted both back tires on the box blade's diggers, $800 worth of rubber. so i imagine that would make it alittle harder for me to get that job after that but i did. they needed help (took sales manager 3 days to mow what took me one day, as he had to do both jobs) and i provided it. about 10 cents above minimum wage. I didn't really care for it because of all the janitorial crap like cleaning and some of them needed alittle attitude adjustment, i was kinda smart aleck, etc. anyhow they did not fire me and i didn't quit but still i don't get my 15% discount, as i technically don't work there anymore :mad: oh well :rolleyes: who wants any JD crap? you pay for the name too much...:confused: :mad: :rolleyes:
Later,
Eric

Bill Davis
02-15-2002, 10:26 AM
My dealer told me yesterday to hold off and not buy a surfer right now because his dealer told him that JD was going to switch up some things on the whole Great Dane line. He said it would be little things but that if i could wait it would be worth it. Is this true or should i just go ahead and buy one. Since im talking about standers, i wish that there was a Wright dealer within 300 miles of here. they look like good machines and i have heard good things about em' but htey dant have enough dang dealers down here in the south. Anyway thanks for the advice.

kenneth parsons
02-15-2002, 10:33 PM
GLC,

I saw their lineup in turf as well. Wasn't impressed! They build great tractors, farm tractors, that is. I was in the business 10 years in Charleston S.C. (1.3M population in tri-county area) and never saw a JD on a trailer there. I'm in S. Georgia now, 75K population, and haven't seen any here either, although we do have a JD dealership and they carry them. Commercial guys here don't buy them. Here is an interesting fact: Exmark has better than 50% of the market share in commercial mowers! All other manufacturers are competing for a small share of the remaining 50%. I honestly don't know how all those other manufacturers are getting by. That truck sure was interesting though!