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Petey's Landscaping
11-09-2008, 12:56 AM
There used to be a leaking swimming pool here.

NewHorizon's Land
11-09-2008, 02:58 AM
Why not a border on the patio?

Petey's Landscaping
11-09-2008, 08:51 AM
They didn't want one.

LawnNeedz
11-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Looks great! I am getting ready to attempt my first hardscape project. It will be a small wall with a paver walkway. How deep is your base?

richallseasons
11-09-2008, 10:08 AM
I hate to say it but those crappy looking houses are a distraction to your work....

Petey's Landscaping
11-09-2008, 11:21 AM
We do 4-6" crush and run, then 1/2" of screenings. Where this pool leaked, we have an extra 2' of compacted gravel underneath.

zedosix
11-09-2008, 11:30 PM
Let me guess, your growing grass in that planter. Sorry dude, that straw stuff looks horrible.

CountryLC
11-09-2008, 11:33 PM
Looks great, like the curves

CALandscapes
11-10-2008, 12:56 AM
Patio and wall look good, but same comment about the straw: ugly.

If they're gonna spend $15k on pavers, why not the extra $1k on sod?

Petey's Landscaping
11-10-2008, 08:09 AM
We are going back at the end of this month and putting plants, water feature, and some flagstone steps, so why waste the money on sod.

soopa
11-12-2008, 07:53 PM
I think you made a good choice with the straw, it's a great temporary soil stabilizer. Although I would have obtained something with a bit more shred to it.

Nice work on the hardscape! Too bad the customer wouldn't go for a sailor course. I have a customer like that and I'm doing everything I can to convince them that they NEED a border.

baddboygeorge
11-12-2008, 10:03 PM
Pete , nice work guy , continue on an dont worry about people critizing your work there just jealous , take care , George

Grounds Specialist
11-12-2008, 10:23 PM
as the professional, i think i would have insisted on the soldier course as the border. it has a definite function on the whole patio.

Mike33
11-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Looks good, when grass grows who give a crap weather you strawed or sodded. The other houses, cant choose your neighbor but you was there to make money. I don't like making comments about someone's home, we all do the best we can to survive.
mike

wurkn with amish
11-13-2008, 07:56 PM
why do people even give the customer an option for a border? it doesnt cost hardly anymore to do it, especially if your using the same stone as rest of patio.

NewHorizon's Land
11-13-2008, 09:55 PM
We do not give the option for border or no border only the type of border. Like stated below it serves a function and is more pleasing to the eye.

as the professional, i think i would have insisted on the soldier course as the border. it has a definite function on the whole patio.

JimLewis
11-16-2008, 03:59 AM
Nice job! I agree that it would have looked better with a sailor course border or something. But it still looks great. Nice job on the wall too. I like the curvy shape of the patio.

On another note, though; I wish you had taken a little better photos with a nicer camera. And I'd like to see it from 5 more angles too. Too few photos. We here at lawnsite demand LOTS of photos. Don't tease us with this 3 photo stuff. You gotta feed us like men! We ain't girls!!! :laugh:

Would love to see how it all turns out with turfgrass grown in and all the other stuff you said is coming!

Petey's Landscaping
11-16-2008, 10:32 AM
Here is a few more different shots of the patio.

zedosix
11-16-2008, 10:48 AM
Not to be picky but just something to think about for future consideration. Since the retaining wall is not squared off with the house I would of used a brick pattern that didn't show the obvious mis alignment. Or you could of put the same brick on a 45 deg. angle, it wouldn't of been so obvious.

PlatinumLandCon
11-16-2008, 11:08 AM
With all that excavating and grading, why not make the patio another 100sf bigger while you're there? It looks like a ton of work for such a small patio. Did you use fire brick in the pit?

Petey's Landscaping
11-16-2008, 04:10 PM
Zerosix, normally I do what the customer wants since they are the one's paying for the job at there house. If they don't want a border, I don't put one. If they want a curved wall, its curved. If they don't want a brick paver done at a 45 deg., then we go with a dublin 3 piece 40mm tumbled. I always make suggestions for what I think looks best, but, it all depends on what the customer wants.
As far as the bed between the sidewalk and the house and why it is not filled with pavers is because, we would of had to put in a step right of the sliding glass door because the way the foundation was poured for the house. So we decided to make it a planter instead. The patio is 676 sqft. how much bigger does it need to be? That doesn't include the area for the sidewalk. And no we don't use firebrick inside our fire pits.

zedosix
11-16-2008, 05:12 PM
Zerosix, normally I do what the customer wants since they are the one's paying for the job at there house. If they don't want a border, I don't put one. If they want a curved wall, its curved. If they don't want a brick paver done at a 45 deg., then we go with a dublin 3 piece 40mm tumbled. I always make suggestions for what I think looks best, but, it all depends on what the customer wants.
As far as the bed between the sidewalk and the house and why it is not filled with pavers is because, we would of had to put in a step right of the sliding glass door because the way the foundation was poured for the house. So we decided to make it a planter instead. The patio is 676 sqft. how much bigger does it need to be? That doesn't include the area for the sidewalk. And no we don't use firebrick inside our fire pits.

Hey thats cool, what the customer wants we give too! But remember the customer is only the one who pays for the work and you are the contractor to advice what is best for them. Your wall could still be curved and come off the house @ 90 deg. then curve. It just sorta looks cockeyed abit with the two misaligned. You can't blame that on a customer. Either way, take the advice or not doesn't really matter, but aren't we here to learn?

OUTLANDER
11-19-2008, 11:47 AM
i think there shoud have been a small rtw around the planter also...and drainage, hope its out past patio.looks like that grade comes right back on the far side

Petey's Landscaping
11-19-2008, 06:05 PM
What is a rtw? And there is drain pipe running underneath the sidewalk.

kootoomootoo
11-19-2008, 08:08 PM
Zerosix, normally I do what the customer wants since they are the one's paying for the job at there house. If they don't want a border, I don't put one. If they want a curved wall, its curved. If they don't want a brick paver done at a 45 deg., then we go with a dublin 3 piece 40mm tumbled. I always make suggestions for what I think looks best, but, it all depends on what the customer wants.
As far as the bed between the sidewalk and the house and why it is not filled with pavers is because, we would of had to put in a step right of the sliding glass door because the way the foundation was poured for the house. So we decided to make it a planter instead. The patio is 676 sqft. how much bigger does it need to be? That doesn't include the area for the sidewalk. And no we don't use firebrick inside our fire pits.

Patio is 676 sq ft>? It aint close to that...

Petey's Landscaping
11-19-2008, 09:59 PM
How do you know, was you there putting it in? And by the way it measures 17' 3" by 38' 9".

kootoomootoo
11-19-2008, 11:05 PM
How do you know, was you there putting it in? And by the way it measures 17' 3" by 38' 9".

I know what the diameter of that firepit is.....work back from there.

Tyler7692
11-19-2008, 11:21 PM
Petey, not to be a nibsh*t, but can you give me a ballpark of what this job would cost, labor and materials? And how long did it take you guys?

BTW, looks pretty good to me.

Tyler7692
11-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Oh yeah, another question, what did you use to fill behind the wall? Crushed gravel with fabric? Any drainage down there? Also, did you have to use any grid or not?

OUTLANDER
11-20-2008, 09:45 AM
deffinately had to use grid

wurkn with amish
11-20-2008, 06:43 PM
I bet he didn't though!