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Lee33
11-13-2008, 10:17 AM
I have a customer who wants me to build him a cinder block wall. Problem is, I am in lawn maintenance, not landscaping. He knows I know how to build them, however, and wants me to do it during the off season (like now). As this is my slow season I said I'd do it. I need the $$$

Can anyone help me with what to charge him? I assume this is done by the liner foot and how many courses high, right??? If so, it'll be three courses high and about 30 feet long.

Thanks in advance for the help

Lee

DVS Hardscaper
11-13-2008, 10:36 AM
You sure he wants "cinder" block?

Cinder Block hasn't been produced since the 1970's!

Maybe they want CMU, concrete masonry wall?



Most masons charge on a per block basis.

Lee33
11-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Sorry, DVS, not being in the landscape business I thought "cinder" block was the concrete blocks that are 16X8X8 that you build walls and foundations with. Landscapers often use them to build walls and then cover the block with stone veneer, stucco etc. That's what this guy wants.

CALandscapes
11-13-2008, 07:18 PM
Sorry, DVS, not being in the landscape business I thought "cinder" block was the concrete blocks that are 16X8X8 that you build walls and foundations with. Landscapers often use them to build walls and then cover the block with stone veneer, stucco etc. That's what this guy wants.

Your client wants CMU.

tthomass
11-13-2008, 08:34 PM
1st....how many days will it take you to complete

2nd...how much will your materials cost you

3rd...what is your overhead (gas, insurance, wages etc etc) per day X #1

4th...how much do you reasonably want to profit each day X #1

MRBsx2
11-13-2008, 08:56 PM
You need 140 block if the wall is going to be 30ft long and 3 courses high. this job should be right around 1000 dollars with block, mortar, sand and struck up if he wants it parged up and any type of cap it will be a little more...would take me about 3 hours to lay that wall up and be done. Also im assuming ur laying 12's if there small block you can be a little more easy on price however thats up to you. Around here block work gos for $3.25 to $4.50a block depending on a lot of things. any more questions just ask me i do this kind of work all the time.

tthomass
11-13-2008, 09:00 PM
footer, excavation, backfill, #57, grading.........

Mike33
11-13-2008, 09:27 PM
Why not retaining wall block?
Mike

MRBsx2
11-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Yes.. my price only inlcudes supplying and laying the block dos not include the footer i was assuming the footer was done and all you needed to do was lay block...If that is not the case you will def have an additional 1500-2000 grand in a footer with excavation rebar and concrete.

Lee33
11-13-2008, 11:13 PM
Thanks everyone for the help.

Mike,
Customer wants a wall that I have described. I have no clue why he does not want retaining wall block.

MRB,
Thanks for the detailed answer. That's exactly what I needed to feel comfortable giving him an estimate.

CA,
Educate me. What's CMU?

custom patios
11-14-2008, 04:43 AM
[QUOTE=DVS Hardscaper;2601257]You sure he wants "cinder" block?

Cinder Block hasn't been produced since the 1970's!

Maybe they want CMU, concrete masonry wall?


do you know what the differences are from cinder and cmu?

Meezer
11-14-2008, 10:18 PM
You need 140 block if the wall is going to be 30ft long and 3 courses high. this job should be right around 1000 dollars with block, mortar, sand and struck up if he wants it parged up and any type of cap it will be a little more...would take me about 3 hours to lay that wall up and be done. Also im assuming ur laying 12's if there small block you can be a little more easy on price however thats up to you. Around here block work gos for $3.25 to $4.50a block depending on a lot of things. any more questions just ask me i do this kind of work all the time.


Hmmm......there's going to be a lot of leftover block on this job:laugh:

custom patios
11-14-2008, 10:34 PM
Hmmm......there's going to be a lot of leftover block on this job:laugh:

LOL, yeah 70 for the wall and 70 for sh!ts and giggles.

MRBsx2
11-15-2008, 11:34 AM
Meezer....How do you figure there will be a lot of leftover? there should be about 10 left over depending on bond corners and cuts? Hes gonna have 2 courses buried off of the footer probably and 3 courses exsposed thats 120 block right there exactly and you can usally figure on about 10 percent extra block for cuts and broken block

Oasis-Outdoor
11-15-2008, 01:54 PM
CMU = Concrete Masonry Unit

Meezer
11-16-2008, 01:14 AM
Meezer....How do you figure there will be a lot of leftover?

It's simple. 3 courses high x 30' L = 1 cube of block

Hes gonna have 2 courses buried off of the footer probably

Really?? Why??? If you're going to excavate, form & pour a footer there's NO need to bury 2 courses of block

Summit L & D
11-22-2008, 02:22 AM
A price of 3.25 to 4.50 per block for LABOR only sounds fair. Footer is extra, materials are extra and so on...

2low4NH
11-27-2008, 01:02 PM
i cube of block here is only 90! if you go with a 4 inch block then you get 120 to a pallet. i hope you have the practice its not as easy as just stacking blocks on top of each other. you need to figure out your bond cuts level all the way across the 30 foot wall. and keep it plumb and square. this would be a 1 day job for me. minus the footing. i have been doing this for 12 years now and i love seeing people who think they know how to lay screw up the wall or lose their ass on the job because they cant lay fast enough. Oh yeah quickrete pre mix mortar sucks dont use it.