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Dirtman2007
11-17-2008, 07:55 PM
Well my day was going just nice and good until I got a phone call from the bossman saying that he had just buried the daewoo out in the middle of a pond were getting ready to dredge out. So I made a mad day over to the site to help in the recovery. The daewoo is sitting on TWO 8'X16' mud mats. that's just how wet this place is.
What I stubbled apon

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-57.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-60.jpg


ok now I've got water in the cab, holly Sh*t. the battery box is under water and the machines still sinking.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-54.jpg


crap it's damn near going outa site.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-46.jpg

I've got my volvo on the way and the bossman just picked up some mats.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-32.jpg

The volvo had just arrive, two hours until dark, gotta get going.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/008-26.jpg

Working it's way out on the mats

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/010-26.jpg

Finally reached the daewoo, started digging out in front of the machine to get some more mats under it.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/014-9.jpg

My oh my....

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/015-9.jpg


Alright now we got the front of the machine up some.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/016-3.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/017-4.jpg

Slow but steady

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/018-4.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/020-5.jpg

Alright now it too muddy to get out, passed the camera off and gave the daewoo all she had.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/021-3.jpg


Here's me doing some serious thinkin

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/022.jpg

Now the volvo is getting bogged down.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/023.jpg

Were getting there... I guess
[-o<

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/024.jpg

Now the volvo is really down deep, I'm not in a very good postion. I've got 12" of mud in the cab, having to kick it out so I can see the track pedals and It's getting dark!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/025.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/027.jpg

Now it's dark, I'm standing on a sinking ship.... too dark for anymore pictures

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/028.jpg

Well It took some work but we got them both out. Now the clean up begins. Only one bent pannel door.. and It has to be on my freaken volvo [-( But atleast their out.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/029.jpg



I guess we'll have to figure out plan "B" tomorrow...

G.M.Landscaping
11-17-2008, 08:01 PM
Holy crap. At least you got them both out.

DUSTYCEDAR
11-17-2008, 08:12 PM
next time call Triple A
OR should it be Sea Tow?

meets1
11-17-2008, 08:14 PM
WOW! That is mucky mud!

WH401
11-17-2008, 08:17 PM
About 5 - 7 years ago, a neighbor got one of the small Sunbelt Rentals one's stuck in a mudpit about as deep as you did that. We tried for a while to get it out with a IH w/ a FEL but it didn't budge. Eventually he had to have Sunbelt come out with a crane and pick it out. It was interesting to watch though.

F3Nelso
11-17-2008, 08:18 PM
Ha! Ive buried a machine that bad before, that sucks.

I buried a Volvo 220, it took a 300 to get her out

NateV
11-17-2008, 08:19 PM
WOW...i hope i never have to deal with anything that stuck.

Gravel Rat
11-17-2008, 09:32 PM
I'am glad we don't have conditions like that :laugh:

If the machine was sitting on a swamp pad that has to be pretty soft :dizzy:

I think you guys should build some pontoons for your excavators :drinkup:

deere615
11-17-2008, 09:34 PM
Man that thing looked STUCK!

KCfireman
11-17-2008, 09:37 PM
man, i would of pulled one of our 4x4 fire trucks:weightlifter: around there and yanked that SOB outta there!

P.Services
11-17-2008, 09:49 PM
wow!!!! your lucky as **** you have another machine, that would have been a very expensive job to get that pulled out. i could have sworn everyone told me just a few days ago ex's never get stuck..... i knew that was bs and it looks like you do to.

is that dirt getting moved to a on site dump?

is it getting hauled in your buddies trucks? how are they getting in and out of the whole? can we hear the plan of attack.

Junior M
11-17-2008, 09:57 PM
So whats that your second time having an excavator stuck?

Dirtman2007
11-17-2008, 10:01 PM
wow!!!! your lucky as **** you have another machine, that would have been a very expensive job to get that pulled out. i could have sworn everyone told me just a few days ago ex's never get stuck..... i knew that was bs and it looks like you do to.

is that dirt getting moved to a on site dump?

is it getting hauled in your buddies trucks? how are they getting in and out of the whole? can we hear the plan of attack.


I never said they were impossible to get stuck, just hard to. In this case I was 30 miles away from the machine when I got the call it was stuck so I don't know if there was any precaution that could have been used to advoid this. I would say maybe it could have but it was sitting on top of the mats that are suppose to keep it floating.

It would have been impossible to get it pulled out with a tow truck. it was probably 500' from the road down a steep hill that nothing without tracks could get up/ down it. I've go several people who I could borrow machines from anyways.

As far as what were going to do now, that's Plan "B"

And what is plan "B" ... I don't know yet... plan "A ' was suppose to work:dizzy:

Dirtman2007
11-17-2008, 10:03 PM
So whats that your second time having an excavator stuck?

That's the second one I've participated in the recovery of. I've never had the oportunity of stick one yet, nor do I want to. I guess I know when to stop.

Mowingman
11-17-2008, 10:06 PM
you were really lucky to get those out a quickly as you did. Check out the videos showing the rescues of stuck equipment on www.cranemasters.com
I have been involved in recovering several badly stuck machines. Here are photos of a Linkbelt dragline we had to dig out many years ago. notice the cab roof of the dragline behind the buldozer. It was in deep.

YellowDogSVC
11-17-2008, 10:29 PM
I'm not sure what to say but as I scrolled down my heart was sinking for you.. glad you got them out. I am amazed that you got them out, though, given how sticky that stuff looked but I guess the excavator is about the most awesome machine on the jobsite after I viewed that!

P.Services
11-17-2008, 10:34 PM
maybe for plan b - start at the very edge and work your way in, hauling all the slop out and keeping on good hard ground (if it has a bottom). i bet theres about 10' of muck on top of anything stable by the looks of it though. it would make for alot of dirt though. thats an awsome project!! you seem to get all the best jobs.

Dirtman2007
11-17-2008, 10:41 PM
maybe for plan b - start at the very edge and work your way in, hauling all the slop out and keeping on good hard ground (if it has a bottom). i bet theres about 10' of muck on top of anything stable by the looks of it though. it would make for alot of dirt though. thats an awsome project!! you seem to get all the best jobs.

The job was bidded for Plan "A" to work. I'm going to go ahead a get out a whole tube of greased becasue I may be getting ready to get F***ed.

I've done tons of jobs for these property managers in the past, so hopefully they'll be understanding. Got a meeting with them first thing in the morning.

P.Services
11-17-2008, 10:46 PM
yeah i figured the bid may come into play. tell them the only choice is to let it dry out for 10 years or so to keep that price........... or pay up!!

RockSet N' Grade
11-17-2008, 11:39 PM
I think Plan "A" still may have a chance. You used 1 - 8x16 mat under each track side I assume with the 16' longwise so you could travel forward and reverse. Can you set them so you're making a 32' wide deck, 2 or 3 next to each other so you have a larger surface area out to the sides and front? You may have to put another on top of all those to travel on going in the opposite direction of the ones underneath........but I think that may work.........Gotta start in a virgin spot and work your way back to that soup mix you made......

stuvecorp
11-17-2008, 11:49 PM
That's wild, glad to see you got them out without too much damage.

Tigerotor77W
11-18-2008, 12:19 AM
What's the maintenance procedure for afterwards? Just a power washing or is there something more involved?

Construct'O
11-18-2008, 07:54 AM
There might be a reason you started there don't know,but plan (b) could be to check a different aera to start.Unless this is the only access spot to start for loading reason or other???

Set a pad out just to stand on to probe(measure) and get an idea how dig the silt is down to solid dirt.There is usual soft spots on the floor of the ponds.Like where the old ditch flowed into the pond .It is always softer because lot of times when building the pond they didn't get dirt there to build with.

Other places they didn't go as deep to start with .Like closer dirt,so they dug a hole there ,but on the other side they didn't need as much dirt,so might only be a few feet down to solid bottom there.

The elevation of the bottom can vary a lot.The ones i have cleaned has not been as large an area.Here small area ,but they are deep.Like the ones you have showned are big area and look to be shallow compared to here.

Here which is just for livestock use.We usually start at the dam edge,bench the front slope out.Set the excavator there.Dig a start area by throwin the silt over the back side of the dam.Then take the dozer,keep pushing the silt to the excavator.Start working our self across the front of the dam left to right or what ever works.

As we get down to the solid bottom with the dozer while the excavtor is resetting and starting new dig.The dozer is refacing the front slope of the dam(pond) when your done it looks like new pond except for the slop on the back side.Which is left to dry for a few years then come back and reshape the backslope.

So will you be cleaning the whole area or just an area like for a boat ram or etc.?Good save and good luck.:usflag:

RockSet N' Grade
11-18-2008, 08:55 AM
forgot to mention that part.........nice save! coulda be expensive ugly.......

bobcat_ron
11-18-2008, 10:52 AM
That was something that happened here years ago, even with wider pads, it still will be scary, a pond was cleaned out in a property a but smaller than that, and they built a gravel road way down the middle and moving all the mud to the sides and into trucks. That would almost be a better suggestion, and leave the road way in after you are done.

hosejockey2002
11-18-2008, 05:31 PM
man, i would of pulled one of our 4x4 fire trucks around there and yanked that SOB outta there!

That's funny!!:laugh: Even an Oshkosh CFR 6x6 would sink like a rock in that muck!

JB1
11-18-2008, 05:38 PM
great pictures, thanks

Dirtman2007
11-18-2008, 06:17 PM
There might be a reason you started there don't know,but plan (b) could be to check a different aera to start.Unless this is the only access spot to start for loading reason or other???

Set a pad out just to stand on to probe(measure) and get an idea how dig the silt is down to solid dirt.There is usual soft spots on the floor of the ponds.Like where the old ditch flowed into the pond .It is always softer because lot of times when building the pond they didn't get dirt there to build with.

Other places they didn't go as deep to start with .Like closer dirt,so they dug a hole there ,but on the other side they didn't need as much dirt,so might only be a few feet down to solid bottom there.

The elevation of the bottom can vary a lot.The ones i have cleaned has not been as large an area.Here small area ,but they are deep.Like the ones you have showned are big area and look to be shallow compared to here.

Here which is just for livestock use.We usually start at the dam edge,bench the front slope out.Set the excavator there.Dig a start area by throwin the silt over the back side of the dam.Then take the dozer,keep pushing the silt to the excavator.Start working our self across the front of the dam left to right or what ever works.

As we get down to the solid bottom with the dozer while the excavtor is resetting and starting new dig.The dozer is refacing the front slope of the dam(pond) when your done it looks like new pond except for the slop on the back side.Which is left to dry for a few years then come back and reshape the backslope.

So will you be cleaning the whole area or just an area like for a boat ram or etc.?Good save and good luck.:usflag:


Out of the whol entire lake, this is the only access I have to it. about a 20' wide sewer line, then I have to drive down the creek on mats to get to the pond.

the Idea of putting the mud behind the dam was rejected at first. this pond damn is classified as a "High Hazard" dam, which pretty much means that if it breaks, houses and lives will be lost from the flood waters. The dams over 25' tall!

the people in charge of the project were unable to meet today to discuss a new place to put this muck. I've got a few places in mind. it's not the easiest thing in the world to find a place for 1500 yards of muck.

Bleed Green
11-18-2008, 06:37 PM
Doesn't sound like there are any good places to put the stuff. What do they want you to do?

Gravel Rat
11-18-2008, 06:58 PM
You guys sure like playing rubber ducky in the mucky :laugh:

Digging the Daewoo out with another hoe was the only way that would come out. You have all that suction on the machine from the mud even a D8 Cat would have problems pulling that machine out of the mud.

RockSet N' Grade
11-18-2008, 07:49 PM
Could you hydravac out an area large enough to operate your machines safely and then go back to hoe work? A muck conveyor system that would load directly into trucks? This little project has got me thinkin' for solutions. What are your ideas for plan B or C?

ksss
11-18-2008, 09:51 PM
Could you hydravac out an area large enough to operate your machines safely and then go back to hoe work? A muck conveyor system that would load directly into trucks? This little project has got me thinkin' for solutions. What are your ideas for plan B or C?

Wait until it freezes and cut it out in chucks with a chain saw.:weightlifter:

ksss
11-18-2008, 10:07 PM
Could you hydravac out an area large enough to operate your machines safely and then go back to hoe work? A muck conveyor system that would load directly into trucks? This little project has got me thinkin' for solutions. What are your ideas for plan B or C?

Wait until it freezes and cut it out in chucks with a chain saw.:weightlifter:

Dirtman2007
11-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Could you hydravac out an area large enough to operate your machines safely and then go back to hoe work? A muck conveyor system that would load directly into trucks? This little project has got me thinkin' for solutions. What are your ideas for plan B or C?

I'm going to try it again, same machine more mats.

RockSet N' Grade
11-18-2008, 10:47 PM
Dirtman......extra scuba gear, snorkel, face mask included in your gear? I wish you great luck and want to know what becomes of this adventure....

Scag48
11-18-2008, 11:27 PM
I'm curious to see how this plays out as well.

Dirt Digger2
11-19-2008, 12:55 AM
bet your guys wish you hauled your own equipment today huh? haha....awesome pics though...i love mud and love stuck sh*t even more

yardmanlee
11-19-2008, 06:16 AM
Wait until it freezes and cut it out in chucks with a chain saw.:weightlifter:

in carolina he might be waiting a while

coopers
11-19-2008, 06:41 AM
in carolina he might be waiting a while

lol, just a bit. :hammerhead:

ClearViewGroup
11-20-2008, 08:30 AM
if anyone can get that machine in and out of there its Chris..if any of you have been over to HEF you would see that this is but a small piece of what these crazy folks do with their machines!

Mule100
11-20-2008, 10:06 AM
Try one of these. www.wilcomarshbuggies.com they go anywhere.

RockSet N' Grade
11-20-2008, 08:03 PM
ClearView........alot of us are members of HEF.......I for one, have read just about every post and thread there for the last 2-3 years.......migrated here because it happens a little faster here.....and maybe a wee bit more tolerant.....

RockSet N' Grade
11-20-2008, 08:05 PM
Mule.......interesting you should bring that up......I was talking with Ksss and all we could come up with was a long stick of some sort to get this job movin'.......

bobcat_ron
11-20-2008, 08:09 PM
ClearView........alot of us are members of HEF.......I for one, have read just about every post and thread there for the last 2-3 years.......migrated here because it happens a little faster here.....and maybe a wee bit more tolerant.....

And WTF is up with HEF? It's been down for me for 2 days and there's more locked threads in 1 month there than Lawnsite gets in 1 year!

Dirtman2007
11-20-2008, 08:16 PM
And WTF is up with HEF? It's been down for me for 2 days and there's more locked threads in 1 month there than Lawnsite gets in 1 year!

I don't know what's up with HEF. It's been down for almost 2 days. I got on there a little while back but it's down again.

been doing some other things while they decide on weather they like my I ideas on where to put the mud at.

So yesterday I finished up a clearing project by grading everything off with the dozer

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-62.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-59.jpg

So today I took a few minutes to paint my counterweight to fix the scratches from the deep mud on it.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-53.jpg

bobcat_ron
11-20-2008, 08:39 PM
Wow, that's dedication to your Volvo's ass, looks new.

Dirtman2007
11-20-2008, 08:52 PM
Wow, that's dedication to your Volvo's ass, looks new.

Thanks
It took a $8.00 can of touch up paint and 20 minutes max. Sure does make the machine look better!

DUSTYCEDAR
11-20-2008, 08:58 PM
gotta love jobs with no access

Dirtman2007
11-20-2008, 09:03 PM
gotta love jobs with no access


You like that. I have to drive the machine all the way up to the main road to get fuel.

RockSet N' Grade
11-20-2008, 09:20 PM
Dirtman........how do you like the Volvo? Is she as easy on fuel as I have been hearing?

Dirtman2007
11-20-2008, 09:35 PM
Dirtman........how do you like the Volvo? Is she as easy on fuel as I have been hearing?

Out of every excavator that I have ran, the volvo beats them all. It's by far one of the best machines to run. It does good on fuel, ever since we've had the thing the fuel gage has always show a 1/4 tank less than what you really have. So that makes it seem like it burns it quick but in reality it's only used 3/4 of a tank. I can say that the daewoo does get more hours on a tank than the volvo. you can almost go 16 hours of steady digging with a tankfull on the daewoo, that pretty good I think.

P.Services
11-20-2008, 09:40 PM
16 hours of digging on one tank? holy shat!! how many gallons?

i had that brand new cat 321d and i couldnt make it 8 hours before it was out. it must have been a tinny tank.

Dirtman2007
11-20-2008, 09:53 PM
16 hours of digging on one tank? holy shat!! how many gallons?

i had that brand new cat 321d and i couldnt make it 8 hours before it was out. it must have been a tinny tank.

No joke under normal digging conditions I could range anywhere from 14- 16 hours a tank. Which would probably be around 60 gallons of fuel as I always fill up a little below a 1/4 tank. Running the pure dog crap out of the daewoo I have never been able to burn more than 4 gallons a hour with it. It must be a "green machine" lol

RockSet N' Grade
11-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Picasso......all the boys around here seem to be trading (when it is time) their KityCat's for Volvo's.......similar sized machines, Volvo was $140 less a day to run than a Cat this summer on fuel and Volvo was offering killer financing...

bobcat_ron
11-20-2008, 10:58 PM
Picasso......all the boys around here seem to be trading (when it is time) their KityCat's for Volvo's.......similar sized machines, Volvo was $140 less a day to run than a Cat this summer on fuel and Volvo was offering killer financing...

Cat also has some issues with booms breaking on their excavators too, but my brother went through the numbers 2 years ago and Volvo would have said major $$$ in fuel and monthly payments.

Gravel Rat
11-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Volvo is slightly cheaper in price too.

The Isuzu engines in Hitachi usually has good fuel ecomomy. Komatsu isn't good, Deere is horrible and Cat is just as bad.

P.Services
11-20-2008, 11:51 PM
i cant speak from experience but i hear terex x's are suppose to sip the fuel.

Gravel Rat
11-21-2008, 12:33 AM
Volvo has a good chunk of the market. They make the best 6x6 ATD out there. The wheel loaders are good.

Dirt Digger2
11-21-2008, 01:47 AM
volvo trackhoes....best out there bar none

coopers
11-21-2008, 01:52 AM
And WTF is up with HEF? It's been down for me for 2 days and there's more locked threads in 1 month there than Lawnsite gets in 1 year!

Oh good it's not just ME. I was wondering what the hell is going on.

Scag48
11-21-2008, 01:54 AM
Never run a Volvo hoe but would like to. Don't see them hardly ever out here, mainly Komatsu, Deere/Hitachi, and Cat. Guy I worked with said he ran a brand new 360 I think it was a year ago and said he loved it. The bogus thing about Volvo is their keys, they're about $60 I'm told. I had to hassle the mechanics for a Sakai key this summer. One of them said if I was ever able to swipe a Volvo key, do it.

coopers
11-21-2008, 01:56 AM
Volvo is slightly cheaper in price too.

The Isuzu engines in Hitachi usually has good fuel ecomomy. Komatsu isn't good, Deere is horrible and Cat is just as bad.

I thought I read the Deere's D series excavators are supposed to be good on fuel now.

Dirt Digger2
11-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Scag i will sell you a copy of my Volvo key for 50......HAHA

i will also throw in Deere backhoe, CASE, CAT, Liehberr, and DEERE dozer.....and if you really want i will throw in a 357 Peterbilt key, a takeuchi and kubota mini-hoe key....those will be extra of course

RockSet N' Grade
11-21-2008, 09:15 AM
Sometimes on ironplanet they auction off sets of keys for $50 or so.........

Gravel Rat
11-22-2008, 03:38 PM
Deere engines have always been piggy on fuel.

Komatsu was making a big appearance in the area and now you don't see too many new machines. The one forestry contractor went back to exclusively Hitachi excavators won't go back to the Deeres because they cost more and they burn more fuel.

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 05:11 PM
So day one of "plan B" work out problem free. I'm taking the mud and extending the shoreline out about about 20' and then hauling the rest upto the road and extending the slope from the road. I'm probably be using my buddies tracked off road dump truck for that.

here some pics


I had to do some clearing where some mud is going, then I ripped all these bushes out, and dug out hole to store the mud in.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-53.jpg

bobcat_ron
11-23-2008, 05:30 PM
Band width exceeded, might wanna start a sub-album or another account like I always do.

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 05:32 PM
Band width exceeded, might wanna start a sub-album or another account like I always do.

Hymm... Does this mean I get the title for picture slut of the month???

RockSet N' Grade
11-23-2008, 05:37 PM
dirtman......you can be s... of the year if you can top "the cat in the hat in a bag" -

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 05:46 PM
dirtman......you can be s... of the year if you can top "the cat in the hat in a bag" -

Well call me post racer! +1 post more for me lol

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 05:54 PM
alrighty then... I take too many pictures.

From my second photobucket account lol:

So day one of "plan B" work out problem free. I'm taking the mud and extending the shoreline out about about 20' and then hauling the rest upto the road and extending the slope from the road. I'm probably be using my buddies tracked off road dump truck for that.

here's some pics


I had to do some clearing where some mud is going, then I ripped all these bushes out, and dug out hole to store the mud in.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/001.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/002.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/003.jpg

Digging the storage hole

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/005.jpg

Getting the volvo in deep

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/006.jpg

still can feel solid bottom

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/007.jpg

5:00 somewhere:drinkup:

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/008.jpg



I can tell you one thing, this place is surrounded by old folks who don't have anything better to do then ask me question. Solution... Never make eye contact, it really does work LOL. They get closer, and closer, then you accidently drop a bucket full of mud from 6 or 7 feet and send a little mud flying toward them. Evil, but very funny in my own little world:laugh:

Scag48
11-23-2008, 06:29 PM
Dude that's the only way to keep working. I've been on a couple jobs where there were people who want to ask questions all day. The worst is when you absolutely have to get out of the machine and they start spit firing questions as soon as the cab door opens. I usually told them my time was worth $2 a minute, they usually got the point, but the best way to avoid it is to not stop the machine if possible.

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 06:42 PM
Haha yeah you have to love the famous question: "what are you doing"

In your head you say: "Well I was working"... the they proceed to rape your ears with unwanted information.

bobcat_ron
11-23-2008, 08:17 PM
Is their a time line that you have to complete this work in, or is it just a "until it's done" kinda deal?

RockSet N' Grade
11-23-2008, 08:21 PM
and here i thought i was the only devious one.......been afraid to share that little secret for fear of ridicule...........but it is a reward in itself...........gotta be sly though, some catch on......

i always do a meet and greet with "did you bring coffee and donuts?" and when they look at you with that "look", just get the engine rev's up and keep movin'.....

Junior M
11-23-2008, 08:22 PM
No video's Dirtman? I really like your video's there always awesome, and you always get a good shot..

bobcat_ron
11-23-2008, 08:27 PM
Something tells me we'll see that glorious Takkie buried up to it's exhaust pipe in mud, I just know he's gonna do another repeat of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEg5dCfCCqI

Junior M
11-23-2008, 08:35 PM
Something tells me we'll see that glorious Takkie buried up to it's exhaust pipe in mud, I just know he's gonna do another repeat of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEg5dCfCCqI
I have a feeling it will be way worse than that Ronny...

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 08:53 PM
Is their a time line that you have to complete this work in, or is it just a "until it's done" kinda deal?

It gets done when we get it done.

I don't think I'll even take the takeuchi out there at all. but that does not mean the takkie want be there to move some mud.

Dirtman2007
11-23-2008, 08:58 PM
No video's Dirtman? I really like your video's there always awesome, and you always get a good shot..

no good video's yet. I took one of me demoing the gazebo yesterday. The video quality turned out to be rather poor and hard to see so I don't know if I'll upload it or not. I just wish I had a video of all the old farts with their facial expression when they realized it was gone.. I guess they did not get the memo!!:laugh:

I put two new ones up today

Digging ashes

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMkSHd-f74

In the dozer backdragging

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hqMCSeelL1M

Junior M
11-24-2008, 09:10 AM
no good video's yet. I took one of me demoing the gazebo yesterday. The video quality turned out to be rather poor and hard to see so I don't know if I'll upload it or not. I just wish I had a video of all the old farts with their facial expression when they realized it was gone.. I guess they did not get the memo!!:laugh:

I put two new ones up today

Digging ashes

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMkSHd-f74

In the dozer backdragging

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hqMCSeelL1M
:laugh: :laugh:

I am at school, and youtube is blocked :wall so I cant watch the video till late tonight, I finally got some work! :clapping:

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 07:25 PM
Alright now plan "B" seems to be working pretty good. It's been me and the volvo swingin mud for the last two day and I've made some progress. First I cleared off the shoreline, all the trees and bushes. Then I dug out a channel along the shore line to store the mud and extend the shoreline out.
Tomorrow My buddies tracked off road dump truck should arrive so I can use it to haul the mud to the other storage site

playing in the mud some more

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/001-1.jpg

I'm making some progress.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/004.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/005-1.jpg

Filling up with fuel.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/006-1.jpg

Another end of a good day.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/009.jpg

Scag48
11-24-2008, 07:29 PM
Looks good. Dumb question, but do you ever have issues with bucket cylinder rod seal being exposed to mud? I know you guys dig a lot of ponds and I'm sure they see a lot of water and mud, curious if you have any issues.

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 07:40 PM
Looks good. Dumb question, but do you ever have issues with bucket cylinder rod seal being exposed to mud? I know you guys dig a lot of ponds and I'm sure they see a lot of water and mud, curious if you have any issues.

We've never had a problem with it, obviously you don't want to rap the cylinder up with mud all the time, but every now and then want hurt it. our last machine we sold had over 7000 hours and the bucket cylinder did not leak a drop.

Scag48
11-24-2008, 07:52 PM
Nice. I've never encountered those conditions, just curious as to how it works out.

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 08:30 PM
:laugh: :laugh:

I am at school, and youtube is blocked :wall so I cant watch the video till late tonight, I finally got some work! :clapping:

You should pay attention at school. lol

Here's a good mud swingin video for you junior.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-I80ARGyS2k

bobcat_ron
11-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Here's another good question, how in the hell did you take the first pic, I don't see no foot prints in the butt deep muck?
I know this was asked sometime ago on another previous mud mania job, but there doesn't seem to be anything you can grab on, and jumping that distance is impossible.

deere615
11-24-2008, 08:31 PM
:laugh: :laugh:

I am at school, and youtube is blocked :wall so I cant watch the video till late tonight, I finally got some work! :clapping:

gotta find a proxy, thats what I used to do last year, just type in proxy for youtube on google and keep trying them until one works... oh and don't get caught:)

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Here's another good question, how in the hell did you take the first pic, I don't see no foot prints in the butt deep muck?
I know this was asked sometime ago on another previous mud mania job, but there doesn't seem to be anything you can grab on, and jumping that distance is impossible.

I just love to make to think on how the hell I get out. LOL

I can tell that I did not even get muddy... can you guess how I did it now???

RockSet N' Grade
11-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Dirtman........did you fly? :) Hey......can you feel bottom out there or are you just sitting on firmer mush? Looks like fun now........you got ZZTop playin' tunes on this one?

Junior M
11-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Looks like you walked across the front of the machine on the tracks and then jumped to hard ground and walked out? I dont know, maybe your spiderman with awesome operating skills? :laugh:

I was in my first class, Journalism, when I was trying to watch those video's, darn blocks.. I finally got to watch them, Dirtman Thanks!

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Dirtman........did you fly? :) Hey......can you feel bottom out there or are you just sitting on firmer mush? Looks like fun now........you got ZZTop playin' tunes on this one?

I walked out but can you see where?

I can feel the bottom in some places, but then 12" further out it drops of to never, never land:laugh:

I'm actually sitting on mats in that picture. I guess you can say it's a little firmer than liquid

KCfireman
11-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Oh my sweet lord Ron! I swear you have had a new sig pic almost every week for the last 3 weeks!:nono:

bobcat_ron
11-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Oh my sweet lord Ron! I swear you have had a new sig pic almost every week for the last 3 weeks!:nono:

I like to change it every few days, just like my undies.

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 09:08 PM
My new ride comes tomorrow :cool2:

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/truck.jpg

Scag48
11-24-2008, 09:10 PM
Those things are SICK! Let me know what the top speed is on that bad boy, I'm curious.

Edit, just looked it up, 6.2 in high gear. Not bad. And it spins 360 degrees on the housing, that's pretty sweet.

Junior M
11-24-2008, 09:10 PM
Not to get off subject, but Dirtman that isnt your skid on that lowboy is it?

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Not to get off subject, but Dirtman that isnt your skid on that lowboy is it?


Na it's my buddies TL 140, he was just moving all his stuff back to his lot. It looks small compared to that truck!

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 09:18 PM
Those things are SICK! Let me know what the top speed is on that bad boy, I'm curious.

Edit, just looked it up, 6.2 in high gear. Not bad. And it spins 360 degrees on the housing, that's pretty sweet.



yeah it seems like it goes faster than that. I've ran it a few times before, actually I dropped and broke my camera in that truck the last time I used it. I was trying to get a good cab video when I hit a bump and:realmad::realmad::gunsfirin:gunsfirin:wall:wall:cry::cry::(

I'll be a little more carfull this time.

P.Services
11-24-2008, 09:29 PM
those things are huge!!!!! but what a tiny little dump box on it!! whats it haul one scoop at a time?

Dirtman2007
11-24-2008, 09:40 PM
those things are huge!!!!! but what a tiny little dump box on it!! whats it haul one scoop at a time?

2 scoops wet, 4 scoops dry. But it will go places nothing else will go. It's got the undercarriage of a PC300

It only costs $225,000 if you would like to buy one:dizzy:

RockSet N' Grade
11-24-2008, 11:06 PM
dirtman.......probably a bad thought/question........but what will pull that out when it gets stuck........ok, forget I even mentioned that......

P.Services
11-24-2008, 11:29 PM
a 6x6 artic volov couldnt work? it would move way more dirt and i have seen those things go in some crazy amounts of mud.

Scag48
11-24-2008, 11:46 PM
I don't know exactly what an ADT puts down for PSI, but that tracked dumper is only 6.1 PSI fully loaded.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 07:39 AM
a 6x6 artic volov couldnt work? it would move way more dirt and i have seen those things go in some crazy amounts of mud.

The only acess I have is this little 20' wide sewer line so there's no room to even try to turn one of those big volvo's around. the track truck has a 360 degree turntable on it which allows you to dump off the sides ect. Also the sewer line is only down about 3' so I really don't what alot of weight crossing it as the ground is already soft.

Mjh Excavating
11-25-2008, 08:52 AM
I used one of those trucks about 2 years ago. The field we were in your feet were up to the ankles in soft stuff, and this thing loaded hardly made a mark in the grass. Awesome piece of equipment.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 07:35 PM
Well once again we change plans :hammerhead:

After moving more mud today we realized that it's just not enough mud to justify bringing in the track truck for a day so I've been elected to move it all with the takkie. Should keep me busy over the holidays


more mud moving today

Had both machines running today

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/002-1.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/003-1.jpg

the extended shoreline


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/004-1.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/005-2.jpg


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/007-1.jpg


Swinging more mud
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=EFdjBXEuWrk

P.Services
11-25-2008, 07:43 PM
haha thats to funny. who was it that called the taki will end up on that job?

you need a massive bucket for it and it will go sooo much faster. call up your cat dealer and get a small wheel loader bucket like i did. i cant belive i worked for so long without mine.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 07:48 PM
haha thats to funny. who was it that called the taki will end up on that job?

you need a massive bucket for it and it will go sooo much faster. call up your cat dealer and get a small wheel loader bucket like i did. i cant belive i worked for so long without mine.

Let's see...The person who
Pays me,
says it really want be that bad,
Ahh we've move more than that before,

And finally, the one who will not be running the takkie.

I've got a big one yard bucket for it, it'll hold about 1.5 yards heaped up. that's all the machine needs with this wet crap, it'll be doing a wheelie anyways.

P.Services
11-25-2008, 07:53 PM
Something tells me we'll see that glorious Takkie buried up to it's exhaust pipe in mud, I just know he's gonna do another repeat of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEg5dCfCCqI

no i was talking about rons early prediction.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 07:56 PM
no i was talking about rons early prediction.

ohh

It's still not going out in the pond. I'll loose it forever, along with me inside the cab!

Scag48
11-25-2008, 07:59 PM
ohh

It's still not going out in the pond. I'll loose it forever, along with me inside the cab!

Dude that's why you send your helper out into the mud with the Tak. That way, when it gets buried, it won't be your fault.:laugh:

P.Services
11-25-2008, 08:01 PM
Dude that's why you send your helper out there in the machine. That way, when ti gets buried, it won't be your fault.:laugh:

no way!!! you stay in the machine and then when it gets stuck you get to stand on the cab and bark orders at the helper to drag the chain thru the slop to pull you out!!!

haha ive done that a time or two

Junior M
11-25-2008, 08:32 PM
Dang, that sucks.. Need someone to run the Tak? I know someone that would love to do it for kinda cheap, just need room and board and some transportation... :laugh:

Construct'O
11-25-2008, 08:45 PM
Dirtman why don't you use a ditchcleaning bucket? Do you have a quick coupler so you can change bucket fairly fast.Just looks like you could cover the cleanout area faster with a wider bucket.

I'm sure smaller bucket when loading trucks out is easier then a wider bucket.I use to have a Balderson 72" ditching bucket on my old Cat 225 with medium stick.It handlered it good.

Working mud it time comsuming that is for sure.Probably hoping for no or little rain,i'm sure.Weather finally straight up a little here.Good luck !:usflag:

bobcat_ron
11-25-2008, 09:00 PM
Extending the shore lines is the best idea so far. But it only works so many times and then the pond gets smaller.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 09:12 PM
Dirtman why don't you use a ditchcleaning bucket? Do you have a quick coupler so you can change bucket fairly fast.Just looks like you could cover the cleanout area faster with a wider bucket.

I'm sure smaller bucket when loading trucks out is easier then a wider bucket.I use to have a Balderson 72" ditching bucket on my old Cat 225 with medium stick.It handlered it good.

Working mud it time comsuming that is for sure.Probably hoping for no or little rain,i'm sure.Weather finally straight up a little here.Good luck !:usflag:


Nither machines have quick couplers so there's no bucket changing going to happen fast. I don't know, both machine have 48" buckets that can hold about 2 yard heaped up. sometimes that's more that the machine needs when you working on liquid mud while sitting on mats, the more weight the quicker you sink.

Actually everytime is rains it saves me time by washing more sediment out into the deep in of the pond. Since I've started I bet over 100 yards of sand have washed out into the deep end of the pond, o well it less I have to move:laugh:

bobcat_ron
11-25-2008, 09:15 PM
Nither machines have quick couplers so there's no bucket changing going to happen fast. I don't know, both machine have 48" buckets that can hold about 2 yard heaped up. sometimes that's more that the machine needs when you working on liquid mud while sitting on mats, the more weight the quicker you sink.

Actually everytime is rains it saves me time by washing more sediment out into the deep in of the pond. Since I've started I bet over 100 yards of sand have washed out into the deep end of the pond, o well it less I have to move:laugh:

Our Volvo 290 had a 72" and it was stable in peat soils, the 320's use a 72" ditch cleaning buckets and even on matts they stay put, a 60" clean up bucket would be really good on you 210.

Dirtman2007
11-25-2008, 09:25 PM
how good does a flat bucket dig in fairly hard soil?

NC is weird in dirt, goes from mud to pretty hard clay to sandstone.

I doubt I'd even think about one with out ahveing a Q/C.

bobcat_ron
11-25-2008, 10:37 PM
We have no problems in hard soil, hard pan is the only type here where we use teeth buckets, but the bolt on edges seem to stay sharper longer over the weld on edges.

Construct'O
11-25-2008, 11:46 PM
how good does a flat bucket dig in fairly hard soil?

NC is weird in dirt, goes from mud to pretty hard clay to sandstone.

I doubt I'd even think about one with out ahveing a Q/C.

I definitly wouldn't change back and fore to the different buckets with out Q/C, that was always a pain for me since the old CAT 225 was manual.Had to have everything just right to get the pins in and out.

Plus then there was always all that grease:)

Also had a 36" bucket with the offset sidecutter that made it cut 48" at the base of the bucket.Mainly just used the ditching bucket the time i had it.

Yeah that wet mud get heavy !:usflag:

OrangeToys
11-26-2008, 12:34 AM
i can't see your pictures

Dirtman2007
11-26-2008, 05:44 PM
Well today we finished digging out this section of the pond

Here's a few pics

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/003-1.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/002-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/003-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/004-2.jpg

OHHHHH CRAP!!

Looks like I slipped off the mats or did not have enoguh under me... I stopped before I buried the machine, got in the daewoo and tossed a few more mats to the machine, then walked it right out.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/007-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/008-1.jpg


The little takkie moved some mud today!

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/011.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/012.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/015.jpg


All done
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Letsdig/016.jpg

Junior M
11-26-2008, 05:46 PM
So you guys are just piling the mud some where to dry?

P.Services
11-26-2008, 05:49 PM
wow you bailed that a looooong ways!!

Scag48
11-26-2008, 06:04 PM
Lookin' good. So let me get this straight. You're just bailing the mud into a hole that you've dug onsite, right? So no material is being trucked out? That would be the best, just bailing dirt all day, no BS and no stupid ass truck drivers to deal with. Sounds like my kind of gig.

Dirtman2007
11-26-2008, 06:09 PM
So you guys are just piling the mud some where to dry?

Yeah I'm pretty mush piling it up by the road over the weekend to dry. Then I will spread it out on the slope, seed and straw and call her done.

Dirtman2007
11-26-2008, 06:11 PM
Lookin' good. So let me get this straight. You're just bailing the mud into a hole that you've dug onsite, right? So no material is being trucked out? That would be the best, just bailing dirt all day, no BS and no stupid ass truck drivers to deal with. Sounds like my kind of gig.

Yep thats pretty much it, scoop, swing, dump, repeat for 8 hours. Got er dun though.

Junior M
11-26-2008, 06:15 PM
Yeah I'm pretty mush piling it up by the road over the weekend to dry. Then I will spread it out on the slope, seed and straw and call her done.
Nice, so I guess this isnt a fancy rich people community?

I have always wondered this but never asked, why does Volvo put those red and white reflector decals on the stick of the trackhoes?

Scag48
11-26-2008, 06:15 PM
Yep thats pretty much it, scoop, swing, dump, repeat for 8 hours. Got er dun though.

Rock on, those jobs are the best. It seems I've drifted further and further from those gigs over the last couple years, everything just gets more complicated and usually involves heavy math. :dizzy: Oh well.

Scag48
11-26-2008, 06:16 PM
I have always wondered this but never asked, why does Volvo put those red and white reflector decals on the stick of the trackhoes?

It's a European thing, just about all of their stuff has those decals.

Junior M
11-26-2008, 06:20 PM
Oh, okay, thanks Scag..

Scag48
11-26-2008, 06:25 PM
Oh, okay, thanks Scag..

To be honest, I never understood it on the excavators. They have them on their backhoes, loaders, pretty sure on their skids as well, makes sense for roading.

Junior M
11-26-2008, 06:29 PM
To be honest, I never understood it on the excavators. They have them on their backhoes, loaders, pretty sure on their skids as well, makes sense for roading.
Its probably to keep somebody from running into one at night, or so its easier to see, I dont know either, europeans are a tadbit wierd, but they prolly say the same things about us. but who wouldnt see a 20ton machine? even if it was dark you would see the huge thing..

Dirtman2007
11-26-2008, 07:30 PM
Here's a video of when I almost stuck the volvo trying to pull out of the hole. The mud mats moved out from under the machine and down she went!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=A8p_qSkB92A

Junior M
11-26-2008, 07:46 PM
Here's a video of when I almost stuck the volvo trying to pull out of the hole. The mud mats moved out from under the machine and down she went!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=A8p_qSkB92A
You about didnt get it out, I love your in cab video's!

bobcat_ron
11-26-2008, 08:19 PM
I remember how much of a PITA it was with Volvo's power management to the tracks when the boom was being used, that's one and the only complaint I had against them.
You sure kept your composure, if that was me, I'd be on top of the cab performing my f*ck you dance. :cool2:

Junior M
11-26-2008, 08:23 PM
I remember how much of a PITA it was with Volvo's power management to the tracks when the boom was being used, that's one and the only complaint I had against them.
You sure kept your composure, if that was me, I'd be on top of the cab performing my f*ck you dance. :cool2:
Your brother had a Volvo trackhoe? I knew he had a Volvo umm umm what do you call it, the trackhoe house on wheels, crap, yeah well you know what I mean, and it was just a rental wasnt it?

bobcat_ron
11-26-2008, 08:27 PM
Your brother had a Volvo trackhoe? I knew he had a Volvo umm umm what do you call it, the trackhoe house on wheels, crap, yeah well you know what I mean, and it was just a rental wasnt it?

He owned a 290LC with cab guarding 2 buckets and Volvo's kick ass hydraulic bucket quick change system from early 2005-late 2007, but it was sold off, it wasn't as small as a 200 and it wasn't quite a 330.

I miss it dearly.

Junior M
11-26-2008, 08:28 PM
He owned a 290LC with cab guarding 2 buckets and Volvo's kick ass hydraulic bucket quick change system from early 2005-late 2007, but it was sold off, it wasn't as small as a 200 and it wasn't quite a 330.

I miss it dearly.
He sells everything you like, I think he does it just to piss you off.. :laugh:

bobcat_ron
11-26-2008, 08:31 PM
I'll get him back by selling one of his kids to the circus.

Junior M
11-26-2008, 08:32 PM
I'll get him back by selling one of his kids to the circus.
:laugh: Hopefully the same one you got sold too. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Dirtman2007
11-26-2008, 09:14 PM
I remember how much of a PITA it was with Volvo's power management to the tracks when the boom was being used, that's one and the only complaint I had against them.
You sure kept your composure, if that was me, I'd be on top of the cab performing my f*ck you dance. :cool2:

This machine pulls pretty good with the boom and tracks moving at the same time, this mud is some sticky Sh*t, really sucks the machine down.

I was starting to worry a little there towards the end when the back of the machine began to dissapear!

Here's a video just for you

Go takeuchi GO!!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GBeR2LcxDOw&watch_response

Green Team Landscaping
11-26-2008, 09:53 PM
You guys have some serious balls to tackle that stuff. I wouldnt touch that mud with an excavator. I would be wayyyyyyy too afraid to get stuck. Good job though.

bobcat_ron
11-26-2008, 11:06 PM
This machine pulls pretty good with the boom and tracks moving at the same time, this mud is some sticky Sh*t, really sucks the machine down.

I was starting to worry a little there towards the end when the back of the machine began to dissapear!

Here's a video just for you

Go takeuchi GO!!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GBeR2LcxDOw&watch_response

Oh, it's on now!! BRING IT!!

jmf
11-27-2008, 11:38 AM
You guys have some serious balls to tackle that stuff. I wouldn't touch that mud with an excavator. I would be wayyyyyyy too afraid to get stuck. Good job though.

Really! My SR80 (now Terex Positrack) is great in the mud but all I can think of is 3 hours of power washing. What do you do with that thing at the end of the day?

jmf

Dirtman2007
11-27-2008, 03:10 PM
Really! My SR80 (now Terex Positrack) is great in the mud but all I can think of is 3 hours of power washing. What do you do with that thing at the end of the day?

jmf

Park it and go home!

Gravel Rat
11-27-2008, 07:16 PM
I think you need a highwalker undercarriage under your machines it would probably make life a little easier. A little less drag and you wouldn't be up to the house in mud all the time.

Green Team Landscaping
11-28-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm with DirtMan, I wouldn't risk it unless I was an employee that didn't have to pay to get it out lol. Thats crazy that you guys went through that stuff though. WOW

t190
11-28-2008, 11:10 AM
We had a Volvo 210BFX, good machine, really smooth. Really good track power for climbing around over stumps, up hills etc. There very similar to Deere's for smoothness in hydralics. that one in the picture is beat, look at the hockey stick guarding, and all the side panels have been replaced, and there not thin!
For Dirtman, you should pitch for a new deere 2154, wow you would not believe the quality and how heavy duty those things are built!

jmf
11-28-2008, 12:08 PM
Actually, it looks like Dirtman has found his niche. He boldly goes where others dare not tread. Maybe he should think about changing his card to Mudman, have excavator will travel.

jmf

Gravel Rat
11-28-2008, 01:48 PM
We had a Volvo 210BFX, good machine, really smooth. Really good track power for climbing around over stumps, up hills etc. There very similar to Deere's for smoothness in hydralics. that one in the picture is beat, look at the hockey stick guarding, and all the side panels have been replaced, and there not thin!
For Dirtman, you should pitch for a new deere 2154, wow you would not believe the quality and how heavy duty those things are built!

The main reason I found the pictures is to show the high walker undercarriage something that they probably have no experience with. Here in B.C. its standard issue with most machines the loggers buy.

For what Dirtman is doing the heavier undercarriage would help. A conventional machine with a undercarriage more designed for doing utility work or work that doesn't involve extreme conditions. I don't think any excavator manufacture dreams of a machine being sunk up to and pass the house works in soupy sticky snot.

Another thing to keep in mind a forestry built Deere/Hitachi is specifically made for western canadian forestry. Finnings used to build forestry equipment it was heavy built but Caterpiller stopped that.

Dirtman2007
11-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Actually, it looks like Dirtman has found his niche. He boldly goes where others dare not tread. Maybe he should think about changing his card to Mudman, have excavator will travel.

jmf


Hey times are tough, Can't be turning jobs down. Everything is possible... you just have to figure out how!

Gravel Rat
11-28-2008, 07:28 PM
It is interesting to see the different working conditions. Your dealing with mud and soupy conditions where I live your cliff hanging with a excavator where your hanging on by the skin of your teeth.

Dirtman2007
11-29-2008, 10:12 PM
Alright Now I've had this changed over to my official picture posting thread As we no longer have anymore stuck equipment to deal with (hopefully) :rolleyes:


Here's my first time pushing over trees with our dozer since we bought it over the summer.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pcQSPTRaGIA


I would like to get some sweeps for it so I don't tear off the stack when clearing, anyone know how much a set would cost?

Junior M
11-29-2008, 10:25 PM
How big were those tree's? Look like they went over pretty easy..

Dirtman2007
11-29-2008, 10:31 PM
How big were those tree's? Look like they went over pretty easy..

The big ones were probably 8- 10" trees

Gravel Rat
11-29-2008, 10:39 PM
You were taking a chance you should have sweeps on the machine and a full cab guard over top.

I don't know if Komatsu makes any cab guards for machines that size.

bobcatexc
11-29-2008, 11:16 PM
I don't know if that video was in fast foward motion, but I'd watch slammin them trees that fast. If you've got to clear much further into them woods, your going to have a big wadded up mess. I usually start on one end and work at a angle pushing them out into the open so I can start wind row them up.

Dirtman2007
11-29-2008, 11:31 PM
Yeah it was double speed, I was taken it pretty easy. Your right, I was just screwing around seeing how well it pushed trees over, I made a horrible wadded up mess that I had to clean up later. I also had the excavator onsite which I used to do all the clearing with, It's much quicker and you don't get all the dirt in your piles. plus I can stack it up 15- 20' high.

Bleed Green
11-29-2008, 11:38 PM
what were u clearing that ground for?

yardmanlee
11-30-2008, 07:43 AM
get r done !!!

Dirtman2007
12-03-2008, 05:22 PM
I'm starting to hate the F...ing Mud! Took daewoo over to the other side of the pond to dig out the other creek channel.

Dug a nice ditch in the bank to hold the mud, fill it with mud and what do you know, my dirt dam gave way and alot of the mud slid back into the pond:cry:

took about 2 hours to fix the mess, and what a mess it was:dizzy:


http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-54.jpg

Filling with mud

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-64.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-56.jpg

Then I had to extend a drain out since I extened the shoreline out. Fun stuff lying concrete pipe by yourself, I got her dun though

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-65.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-54.jpg

Then I went back over to the other side and played on the volvo a little digging a little catch basin in the creek

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-47.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/014-10.jpg

Now it's time to take the mini's over and dress up the shorline that I extened on the first side

My mud mats for the mini!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-47.jpg

Before

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-43.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-32.jpg


Getting it done

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/008-29.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/009-27.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/011-20.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/013-16.jpg

dozerman21
12-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Dirtman- What do you guys to about preventing your tracks from freezing up overnight in the winter?

Dirtman2007
12-03-2008, 08:18 PM
Dirtman- What do you guys to about preventing your tracks from freezing up overnight in the winter?

I jack each side of the machine up and spin the tracks a few times before I park it for the night, that usually does the trick. I only had them freeze to the ground a few times in my life but Ihave always been able to break them loose. Remember we have somewhat mild winters here and nothing too cold. rarely does the temperture drop in the single digits if it even does in a year.

dozerman21
12-03-2008, 08:22 PM
I jack each side of the machine up and spin the tracks a few times before I park it for the night, that usually does the trick. I only had them freeze to the ground a few times in my life but Ihave always been able to break them loose. Remember we have somewhat mild winters here and nothing too cold. rarely does the temperture drop in the single digits if it even does in a year.

I forgot you're in NC.:hammerhead: I was thinking PA for some reason. The excavators won't give you as much trouble as the dozer and track loaders. Winter is a PIA here...

Dirt Digger2
12-03-2008, 09:28 PM
i am in PA:clapping:

we try and park them on boards when ever possible

Dirtman2007
12-03-2008, 09:54 PM
i am in PA:clapping:

we try and park them on boards when ever possible

I parked the volvo on mats, see in the picture? Not to keep it from freezing, just to keep it from sinking out of sight! Even the bucket was sat on one, this stuff is wet:dizzy:

PerfectEarth
12-03-2008, 10:05 PM
Man, what an awesome thread. Thanks for all the pics! And as said before- you' guys have some balls to take on these messy jobs. Are you also doing all the final details on the clean-up end of things?

Dirtman2007
12-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Man, what an awesome thread. Thanks for all the pics! And as said before- you' guys have some balls to take on these messy jobs. Are you also doing all the final details on the clean-up end of things?


yes sir, seeding and strawing will begin next week. Would you like to come help with the strawing? A lot will have to be done by hand as there's no way to get a straw blower back there. Ohhh Joy:rolleyes:

Gravel Rat
12-03-2008, 11:36 PM
I'am getting the feeling you don't own a pair of regular work boots you must wear hip waders everyday at work :laugh:

Amazing what you can do with mud its something I have never had to deal with that much.

Actually 2 jobs I worked on both working with slimey blue clay but never with the excavator sunk to the floor boards in mud.

stuvecorp
12-03-2008, 11:44 PM
Looks good. It probably had been asked but would a long reach speed things up at all? You seem to do alot of pond work, just wondering.

yardmanlee
12-04-2008, 05:59 AM
suprised that you didnt put rip rap along the shore line or maybe try to sell a retaining wall install

Dirtman2007
12-06-2008, 03:43 PM
suprised that you didnt put rip rap along the shore line or maybe try to sell a retaining wall install

I'll be installing some errosion control matting along that edge to prevent errosion along with planting grass


Got the mud dressed up the best I could until it dries some more
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-61.jpg


Ok.... that's just too much mud to shovel off by hand...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-66.jpg

Dressing up some more mud

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-60.jpg


Side loading the volvo onto the lowboy.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ6Pt0yQC9M

Junior M
12-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Looks like you finally found a way to use the bucket backwards! :laugh:

I noticed you guys use a PJ trailer, how do you like it? hows it holdn up for ya? Just curious, just wanting to know how they hold up over time since we havent had ours very long..

Dirtman2007
12-06-2008, 05:56 PM
It's been a good trailer, we've had it about 2 years and It's probably got 50,000 miles on it. It get's used daily just about. The only problem I've seen with it is the steel rod that connects the ramps to the trailer/ pivot pint, get's bent and makes it hard ot rise/ lower the ramps. That mainly comes from unloading a machine when the ramps want go all the way down without force

P.Services
12-06-2008, 05:58 PM
are you cleaning the tracks out for transport? do you clean them at the end of every day?

Dirtman2007
12-06-2008, 06:25 PM
are you cleaning the tracks out for transport? do you clean them at the end of every day?

Just cleaning them out for transport. Took the volvo to the volvo dealer to get a 2000 hour service where they change all the fluids.

bobcat_ron
12-06-2008, 06:30 PM
Now you're on to something with the mini cleaning the tacks, one of the big companies around here rigged up a long 5 foot long scraper that they use on the mini's to clean the 300's tracks.

P.Services
12-06-2008, 06:41 PM
yeah i pulled a real smooth move with my tracks, i was running in a swamp and got them all packed full of mud then being a lazy a$$ i only cleaned around the sprockets because it hasnt been tooo cold. well it went down below zero and froze the shat out of them, the sprockets are free but the tits on the tracks are all froze solid with mud. it took me three hours with a spud bar to get one free. tomorrow i will take out a 200k btu space heater and ply wood to box the heat off.

lesson learned...... dont be lazy!!!

Dirtman2007
12-06-2008, 07:40 PM
yeah i pulled a real smooth move with my tracks, i was running in a swamp and got them all packed full of mud then being a lazy a$$ i only cleaned around the sprockets because it hasnt been tooo cold. well it went down below zero and froze the shat out of them, the sprockets are free but the tits on the tracks are all froze solid with mud. it took me three hours with a spud bar to get one free. tomorrow i will take out a 200k btu space heater and ply wood to box the heat off.

lesson learned...... dont be lazy!!!

The lesson learned is LIVE IN THE SOUTH!!!

It don't get below zero, ok it rarely get's below 15 degress.

Green Team Landscaping
12-06-2008, 07:54 PM
That looks so much better after you dug it out and "defined" the embankment. You do some nice work, and you've got a lot of cool tools!

5.0
12-06-2008, 09:56 PM
man, nice setup! Is that pond in Lochmere? Looks familiar, but I can't place it...

Dirtman2007
12-06-2008, 10:23 PM
man, nice setup! Is that pond in Lochmere? Looks familiar, but I can't place it...

It's in Greystone, off of sawmill road.

Dirtman2007
12-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Today I went back out to the big horse arena project that I did in August of this year. Seeded and hayed in late october, the grass has come up pretty good and ht eentire 10 acre site looks good. They want me to finish building the 8'X16' dock for them as they don't have the time. I put the post in when I built the pond.

Here are some pictures of the site and arena. If anyone wants to see this project from the start, let me know and I'll post away some pictures.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/010-22.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/011-21.jpg

The money shot

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/012-15.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/013-17.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/014-11.jpg

bobcat_ron
12-10-2008, 04:23 PM
It's.......so.....greeeeeeen!!!

Gravel Rat
12-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Nice green rolling hills landscape its nice. Don't see that here.

Definatly need a ride on lawn mower for that job your definatly not cutting it with a push sikkle bar mower :laugh:

Junior M
12-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Wow, that looks awesome! I remember you made a photo story on that job didnt you? and you got your dozer on that job too..

Dirtman2007
12-10-2008, 05:18 PM
Wow, that looks awesome! I remember you made a photo story on that job didnt you? and you got your dozer on that job too..

That's right... I forgot already



Here it is... Enjoy
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMBdYrorA4&feature=channel_page

Junior M
12-10-2008, 05:24 PM
Did you have your helper running the dozer while you ran the excavator? or vice versa?

Another question: Yall didnt have any erosion issues with being the way the it was graded towards the pond?

Dirtman2007
12-10-2008, 05:31 PM
Did you have your helper running the dozer while you ran the excavator? or vice versa?

Another question: Yall didnt have any erosion issues with being the way the it was graded towards the pond?

I pretty much run the dozer and really don't let anyone else run it. My boss has only ran it about an hour since we bought the thing:laugh:

Yes a couple days after all the grading was done it rained about 8 inches one night, filling the pond with water and washing some nice ruts. so we had to regrade everything. Then it was hydroseeded.

Junior M
12-10-2008, 05:36 PM
I pretty much run the dozer and really don't let anyone else run it. My boss has only ran it about an hour since we bought the thing:laugh:

Yes a couple days after all the grading was done it rained about 8 inches one night, filling the pond with water and washing some nice ruts. so we had to regrade everything. Then it was hydroseeded.
Oh, What about on that job when you needed two machines running? Just curious how people do things when they have someone helping them that isnt family..

Dirtman2007
12-10-2008, 05:40 PM
The boss helps me when I need two excavators running. My helpers will help run the smaller stuff/ labor work. I stay on the machines :laugh:

kreft
12-10-2008, 05:52 PM
Is this a family buisness chris?

Dirtman2007
12-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Is this a family buisness chris?

Yes. It's my uncle and me. 7 pieces of equipment just so we don't use the same thing everyday.

Junior M
12-10-2008, 09:50 PM
Yes. It's my uncle and me. 7 pieces of equipment just so we don't use the same thing everyday.
I am free if you ever need help!! :laugh:

coopers
12-11-2008, 03:27 AM
Chris, that looks very nice. Interesting how the trees are growing over there. Are your forests so tight that they grow like that? We have some pretty dense vegetation here but I usually don't see what you have in your pic. Every now and then you'll get a group of trees that grow like that because of the lack of sunlight down near the forest floor but other than that...nice job.

AWJ Services
12-11-2008, 08:41 AM
People from out west often are amazed at our forest's dense growth.
If you can find an old growth Hardwood forrest it is not so bad.
Farming has rid the south of it's native trees and forrests so that is what has replaced it.Pines and sweet gums.
Pine tree farming is also pretty popular which is what that looks like it started out as.

Here is a pic of a native Long leaf Pine Forrest.

http://www.bragg.army.mil/esb/images/ecosystem.jpg

Junior M
12-11-2008, 09:04 AM
Our woods look just like, except add a really thick underbrush..

Dirtman2007
12-11-2008, 09:13 AM
Yes that land was planted pines. They sold the land, logged the pulpwood trees as the most trees were under 12" and then made it a house lot.

I came in and cleared the stumps, built the horse arena and pond.

AWJ Services
12-11-2008, 09:27 AM
Fire is a big part of a Pine forrest which keeps the underbrush managable.

coopers
12-12-2008, 05:43 AM
Yeah western WA can be ridiculously thick but it's all levels of the forest. We have some major underbrush/very full underbrush. Because of our climate, rain over longer period of time, we can have a pretty lush environment. East of the Cascades it's a different story. I just thought that was interesting.

Dirtman2007
12-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Last two days we have looked at 6 pond jobs

here's a couple from today.

Sir.... you have a problem


http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/th_004-51.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/?action=view¤t=004-51.flv)

I think the pipe has a rust problem. 36" pipe
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-68.jpg


The emergency overflow is 4: 60" concrete pipes. This is where you don't want to be standing during a flood!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-61.jpg

The pond to be dredged, I'm on shore while they probe the pond to determine the amount of sediment to be removed. See the little boat.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-45.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-36.jpg



The next pond is for a big wheel. He owns over 40 bojangles restaurants ( you Yankees don't know about them lol) Pretty much all of them in eastern NC. then his property backs up to a huge track that Jerry Stackhouse owns (plays for the NBA)
Told us to take care of his pond and make it look good. 10-4 !

Alittle swampy looking!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/009-29.jpg

Junior M
12-12-2008, 05:54 PM
The video isn't working for me..

Dirtman2007
12-12-2008, 05:59 PM
The video isn't working for me..

It did before...

Lets try again

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/th_004-51.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/?action=view&current=004-51.flv)

Junior M
12-12-2008, 06:13 PM
I dont know what was wrong, but the second one worked for me..

P.Services
12-12-2008, 06:17 PM
do you get permits to do this stuff?

Dirtman2007
12-12-2008, 06:26 PM
do you get permits to do this stuff?

Most of it's maintenance so we don't need one. So I guess you could say 80% of the time, NO

P.Services
12-12-2008, 06:46 PM
hmmm around here you need a permit to do any dredging, even to drain a pond connected to wetlands you need a permit.

bobcat_ron
12-12-2008, 07:36 PM
Wow, if I had that much work, I'd be thinking about a Wilco floating excavator PDQ.

Dirtman2007
12-12-2008, 07:53 PM
Wow, if I had that much work, I'd be thinking about a Wilco floating excavator PDQ.

Na, the muds only a couple feet deep. No problem for our excavators.

Dirtman2007
12-15-2008, 05:25 PM
Well with no dirt work to do today I was asked to build a dock for the horse arena project I did over the summer. I already had the posts in so it was a easy job. 70 degrees out by 9AM, but the water was cold! Thru the waders on and went to work. only took 4 hours.

I'm happy now, I got the ok on a big dirt job( moving 4000+ yards for a parking lot) so that sould keep me busy for a little while.

Dock is 8'X16'

This morning

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-63.jpg

I'm glad I did not get carried away digging this pond!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-62.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-56.jpg

All done

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-54.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-49.jpg

Green Team Landscaping
12-15-2008, 05:29 PM
How would you go about getting those posts to stay in the mud?

Dirtman2007
12-15-2008, 05:32 PM
How would you go about getting those posts to stay in the mud?

When I built the pond I took the big excavator and pushed the post down in the ground about 3' deep. It would take 2000lbs to pull one out! It's not going anywhere

bobcat_ron
12-15-2008, 06:52 PM
I can't believe it's still warm there, it's freezing here, even my Kitty Cat's balls fell off and he is plugged in for the night!

AWJ Services
12-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Today they showed that Cincinatti was like 65 degrees and 245 miles NW of it it was 14 degrees.

Dirtman2007
12-15-2008, 07:08 PM
I can't believe it's still warm there, it's freezing here, even my Kitty Cat's balls fell off and he is plugged in for the night!


The weather is F'ed up here this time of year, 75 oneday, 45 the next day. one night will be 20 and the next will be 50. It's now wonder we all get sick.

Junior M
12-15-2008, 07:53 PM
I was wearing my carhartt jacket and beanie last week, now I am in a short sleeve shirt this week.

Dirtman, you couldnt do a job with out bringing in a piece of equipment, could ya?

Dirtman2007
12-15-2008, 07:56 PM
I was wearing my carhartt jacket and beanie last week, now I am in a short sleeve shirt this week.

Dirtman, you couldnt do a job with out bringing in a piece of equipment, could ya?

you didn't think I was going to bring all that lumber and tools down there by foot did you? Plus I needed a scoop of screenings to backfill around the dock:laugh:

Junior M
12-15-2008, 08:05 PM
you didn't think I was going to bring all that lumber and tools down there by foot did you? Plus I needed a scoop of screenings to backfill around the dock:laugh:
Oh, god forbid mister high and mighty operator man did something by hand!!http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-045.gifhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gifhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gif

Dirtman2007
12-15-2008, 08:16 PM
Oh, god forbid mister high and mighty operator man did something by hand!!http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-045.gifhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gifhttp://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gif



:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hey I got wet when I maxed out the waders putting the end board on the dock!

No I really brought the tractor to pull my trailer with the wood and tools down to the pond. It was really wet and did not want to tear all their nice new grass up driving my truck back there.

Junior M
12-15-2008, 08:20 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hey I got wet when I maxed out the waders putting the end board on the dock!

No I really brought the tractor to pull my trailer with the wood and tools down to the pond. It was really wet and did not want to tear all their nice new grass up driving my truck back there.
http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Leisures_and_Sports/leisures-and-sports-089.gifYou got a little wet!
http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Signs/ok.gif I believe you

Dirtman2007
12-17-2008, 08:06 PM
Alright I started on my big dirt moving job, I've got to grade this area out to make a parking lot. All the dirt will be moved to the far end of the lot and blended in with the ground 40' above.

Freaking kudzu vines are everywhere, I've fell down so many times looking at this job, can't wait to rip them all off tomorrow:weightlifter:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-57.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-55.jpg


Damn that's a sexy machine!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-50.jpg

I've been putting down silt fence all afternoon with my helper, 330' so far in about 3 hrs, another 150' tomorrow

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-37.jpg

Junior M
12-17-2008, 08:09 PM
I hate that freaking Kudzu, we did a job in Feburary ripping that stuff out. There is no way to pile that stuff up in a neat pile and grab with a 4n1...

Dirt Digger2
12-17-2008, 08:16 PM
Dirtman you could have bought an EC330 at auction yesterday with 2000 hours for $68,000!!!!

Dirtman2007
12-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Dirtman you could have bought an EC330 at auction yesterday with 2000 hours for $68,000!!!!

Key words "could have" lol

That's amazing what those prices were. I can't believe what that stuff sold for. It's the time to buy if you have the $.

bobcat_ron
12-17-2008, 08:20 PM
What's so bad about Kudzu? Is it as bad as black berry brush we have here?

Dirtman2007
12-17-2008, 08:24 PM
What's so bad about Kudzu? Is it as bad as black berry brush we have here?

Well It grows about 12" a day, will destroy everything in comes in contact with, once it goes up a tree it will completely cover the tree and kill it. does not matter how big the tree is... It's screwed. Take your riding mower over it and it will stall the mower within seconds. the stuff sucks!

Dirtman2007
12-18-2008, 05:48 PM
what a crappy day today. I'm ready for some sinshine.

Putting in my access road this morning.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-64.jpg

Then I put the root rake on the tak and scraped all the kudzu vines off the lot.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/003-63.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/004-58.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-56.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-51.jpg

I like to watch the trains go by... I crushed a nickel and a penny on the track today... It does not take much to fascinate me.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/007-38.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/008-31.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/009-30.jpg

bobcat_ron
12-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Crushing pennies is soooo much fun when there is rail road tracks near by.

Junior M
12-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Ok, got a question dirtman, How did you do that today when you were running the dozer and trackhoe, I assume they were running at the same time, did you have your helper run one piece of equipment and you were on the other?

Dirtman2007
12-18-2008, 06:50 PM
Ok, got a question dirtman, How did you do that today when you were running the dozer and trackhoe, I assume they were running at the same time, did you have your helper run one piece of equipment and you were on the other?

Nope, I ran them both today... well all 3 machines actually. I just run from machine to machine for whatever task needs to be done. Keeps me out of trouble and keeps me busy. lol

bobcat_ron
12-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Idle hands do the devil's work.

Dirtman2007
12-19-2008, 06:39 PM
Played on the dozer today while to bossman actually did some work! He loaded the truck and I pushed the dirt off and took pictures:laugh:

Loading out the brush this morning

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/001-65.jpg

Brought my buddies old mack out of retirement, he's used it 10 times this year:dizzy:

It's a great off road truck!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/002-69.jpg

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Dang that's a long ways down!

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10' of fill in.... 20' more to go

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stuvecorp
12-19-2008, 06:59 PM
I like that Kenworth, that Mack is a classic.Thumbs Up

Dirtman2007
12-19-2008, 07:04 PM
Nothing else will keep up with that old mack onsite. All three axles will be dragging the ground and it keeps going. Plus it has 6 gears in reverse! watch out.

Gravel Rat
12-19-2008, 08:00 PM
That is a old DM model Mack with the offset cab old and slow :laugh:

CAT powered
12-19-2008, 08:28 PM
Don't be mean to the old Mack DM trucks. I've got an 87 DM that is still a road truck that I run almost every day. I bought it new in 87. Sold it in the early 90s. Bought it back again last year. It needs a new box and a little TLC, but it still runs good as new. As for your slow comment I haven't found that at all with any DMs I have owned.

bobcat_ron
12-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Must be nice to use original ground as fill, if that was a job here, big $$$ hauling the spoil out and hauling rock in, you are sooo damn lucky!

stuvecorp
12-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Don't be mean to the old Mack DM trucks. I've got an 87 DM that is still a road truck that I run almost every day. I bought it new in 87. Sold it in the early 90s. Bought it back again last year. It needs a new box and a little TLC, but it still runs good as new. As for your slow comment I haven't found that at all with any DMs I have owned.

I would never disrespect the old Macks, just hope I never have to run one.

stuvecorp
12-19-2008, 08:47 PM
Must be nice to use original ground as fill, if that was a job here, big $$$ hauling the spoil out and hauling rock in, you are sooo damn lucky!

Now that you say that, what is up with that? We would just use regular dirt too.

bobcat_ron
12-19-2008, 08:49 PM
Now that you say that, what is up with that? We would just use regular dirt too.

We have clay here, you can't compact it unless it's Summer and even the virgin pit run can get mushy, any type of work we do like Chris is doing now, would be done 1-2 years in advance of anything being built on or near the site.

CAT powered
12-19-2008, 08:50 PM
Oh c'mon! They're not that bad! Put in a good air ride seat and they're good!

They've got 2-65 air conditioning. The heat works sometimes. What else could ya want? :laugh:

stuvecorp
12-19-2008, 08:54 PM
We have clay here, you can't compact it unless it's Summer and even the virgin pit run can get mushy, any type of work we do like Chris is doing now, would be done 1-2 years in advance of anything being built on or near the site.

Wow, that makes for long lead times on projects. We are so lucky to have more sandy type soil. There is some stuff (they call it Dsand) that they screen out the rock and it is just like peanut butter, spreads just awesome and packs in good.

Dirtman2007
12-19-2008, 08:56 PM
We have clay here, you can't compact it unless it's Summer and even the virgin pit run can get mushy, any type of work we do like Chris is doing now, would be done 1-2 years in advance of anything being built on or near the site.

hey this is no dream dirt. do you notice the chain on the front of the truck in all the pictures but the first?

It's all virgin dirt but it's pretty freaking soft, the trucks axles are dragging the ground on every pass.

I've got to drag the truck up the hill with the dozer just to get him up to the place we are working at. I'll get a video tomorrow, that little komatsu dozer has no problem dragging the truck up the hill, even sideways!

Dirt Digger2
12-19-2008, 10:23 PM
old macks will run circles around new trucks

we had one with a 6 speed "lo-hole" tranny...shes now in Africa, but that was a good truck

Gravel Rat
12-19-2008, 11:00 PM
That dirt looks decent enough. It all depends on what the area is going to be used for. If its going to be built on then it would have to be engineered. In my area there is never any soil on site it all has to be trucked in from a pit. One one job I worked on there was enough gravel in one area of the site to use on another part of the property.

As for the old Macks they are slow too underpowered for the hills and grades where I'am. A Mack with a 237 engine and 6spd you would go broke trying to haul with it. No Jake brake not enough gears and rides rougher than a tank.

We do have RD and RB model Macks with 350 engines and 12spds the trucks are okay but don't turn worth crap. You get 425/65R22.5 super single steer tires your not getting into any driveway with it. Macks are good but no comparison to a Kenworth. Even the new Mack Granites are not that good really gutless you have to drive them like a 6/71 detroit ie keep your foot into it and don't let the RPMs fall.

You want to pull steep grades you need power like ISX Cummins or C-15 Cat power rated at 475-550.

For a site truck it doesn't matter load 20 ton into it and off you go :laugh:

Dirtman2007
12-20-2008, 07:10 PM
I went for taking videos today instead of a bunch of pitcures

Rolled over to 2600 hrs on the volvo today

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/005-57.jpg

Cleaning the truck out

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I'm getting closer to the top

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Damn thats a steep hill! tracking the slope in.

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You say were making too much noise????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVj2DUD1NEk

Junior M
12-20-2008, 07:16 PM
So your digging the fill out of one end, and hauling it to the other side, to make a parking lot, right? What is the parking lot for, I know parking cars but I mean, like what business, it looks like a residential community..

How's the dozer do on that steep slope, any slipping, or anything?

bobcat_ron
12-20-2008, 07:16 PM
Holy hell, that is a big box!