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ICT Bill
11-18-2008, 01:54 PM
This first came out a year ago, they have taken suggestions and comments and this is the new 2008 version.
The subject matter included in here is truely stunning, for all you landscapers out there that do large bids you will love the content, almost all of the verbiage can be used in bids. Finally your tax dollars going to something that actually gives back

The Initiative envisions that sustainable land practices will enable natural and built systems to work together to protect and enhance the ability of landscapes to provide services such as climate regulation, clean air and water, and improved quality of life. Issues addressed
include: materials management, soils, hydrology, vegetation, human health, and ecosystems services.

This important milestone builds on the initial Standards and Guidelines:
Preliminary Report released in November of last year. The new draft contains over 50 proposed prerequisites and credits ranging from site selection to sustainable maintenance practices. The metrics’ format will be similar to existing LEED tools in structure and will include the following components:
Credit intent
Ecosystem services addressed
Social and economic benefits
Requirements
Submittal documentation
Technologies and strategies
Resources
The Guidelines and Performance Benchmarks Draft 2008 will be available for download and public comment beginning on November 10, 2008 at www.sustainablesites.org/report. The public comment period will close January 20, 2009. Public review and comment is essential to the successful development of these guidelines and performance-based benchmarks.
treegal1
11-19-2008, 10:24 AM
good look-in out for this sort of thing, thanks Bill.

did you catch the part about tax and impact fee credits? that's just what the doctor ordered, incentive that big company's can understand and not some hippie BS
Kiril
11-19-2008, 11:41 AM
incentive that big company's can understand and not some hippie BS

That is right ya hippie. :laugh:
ICT Bill
11-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Here is an interesting paragraph from the book

In the Chicago area alone, urban trees sequester roughly 155,000 tons of carbon a year—currently worth $620,000 on the Chicago Climate Exchange. And by providing energy savings in residential heating and cooling, the same trees help reduce carbon emissions from power plants by about 12,600 tons annually.21 In the continental United States, carbon sequestration alone provided by urban trees is estimated to be about 25 million tons per year,22
which is equivalent to the carbon emitted by almost 18 million cars annually.23
Smallaxe
11-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Here is an interesting paragraph from the book

In the Chicago area alone, urban trees sequester roughly 155,000 tons of carbon a year—currently worth $620,000 on the Chicago Climate Exchange. And by providing energy savings in residential heating and cooling, the same trees help reduce carbon emissions from power plants by about 12,600 tons annually.21 In the continental United States, carbon sequestration alone provided by urban trees is estimated to be about 25 million tons per year,22
which is equivalent to the carbon emitted by almost 18 million cars annually.23

Then the Bureau of Land Management makes it possible for forest land to remain "NATURAL" so they can naturally burn every stinking year. Logging is evil , fire- good. Caveman? Hippie? Brainless Academic?
Call them what you want - their care for National Forests makes them fools.
ICT Bill
11-20-2008, 08:25 AM
Then the Bureau of Land Management makes it possible for forest land to remain "NATURAL" so they can naturally burn every stinking year. Logging is evil , fire- good. Caveman? Hippie? Brainless Academic?
Call them what you want - their care for National Forests makes them fools.

Smallaxe, you need to read Charles Mann's book "1491" every human inhabitant of north/central/south america used to use fire non stop except us. some of the first ship captains to visit stated that there was no underbrush you could ride a carriage right through deep forest. They apparently were much better managers than we are
Tim Wilson
11-20-2008, 10:45 AM
Smallaxe, you need to read Charles Mann's book "1491" every human inhabitant of north/central/south america used to use fire non stop except us. some of the first ship captains to visit stated that there was no underbrush you could ride a carriage right through deep forest. They apparently were much better managers than we are

I've been in forests like that; 'virgin' forests up north on the Queen Charlotte Islands and in the high country near where I live before it was logged.
Smallaxe
11-21-2008, 08:46 AM
Smallaxe, you need to read Charles Mann's book "1491" every human inhabitant of north/central/south america used to use fire non stop except us. some of the first ship captains to visit stated that there was no underbrush you could ride a carriage right through deep forest. They apparently were much better managers than we are

So controlled fires are a good strategy. Logging off firebreaks is too. The "Back to Nature" mantra - has come to mean "Neglect". That is what irritates me most of all. Bad science just cost another 200 homes last week. What kind of toxins does burning a modern home put in the air?

It makes 'planting a tree' to save the planet seem pretty futile.
Kiril
11-21-2008, 09:02 AM
The reason why there is so much underbrush is because we cut down all the damn forests.
Tim Wilson
11-21-2008, 10:10 AM
The reason why there is so much underbrush is because we cut down all the damn forests.

Aye, and in our ignorance all the supportive fungi network was destroyed...forever. Replanting forests will never replace what has been destroyed....forever...or at least until the next extinction cycle takes place.
Smallaxe
11-21-2008, 09:55 PM
We think quite highly of ourselves , don't we!?!

Wouldn't it be tricks if we were at the top of the next "Extinction cycle"... LOL :laugh:
Kiril
11-21-2008, 10:17 PM
We think quite highly of ourselves , don't we!?!

Wouldn't it be tricks if we were at the top of the next "Extinction cycle"... LOL :laugh:

What this planet needs is an enema!
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