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dvlscape
11-24-2008, 04:20 PM
Does anybody know where one would dispose of 300 + / - yards of pond sludge? Once this stuff dries out I know it would be awsome compost. The only thing keeping me from taking on a $20,000 - $25,000 1/4 acre pond cleanout is where to dispose of the spoils.

AintNoFun
11-25-2008, 12:46 AM
idk i know a lot of dredgings around here sometimes is considered hazardous because of the years of chemicals, fertizliers, oils etc settled in the muck...

Green Pastures
11-25-2008, 08:14 AM
Maybe local farmers?

Based on what the previos poster said though.........I don't know.

ClearViewGroup
11-25-2008, 08:19 AM
often if you have an open area guys will just spread it out and let it dry then grade it...look up Dirtman2007 he does ALOT of pond work

ARGOS
11-25-2008, 09:24 AM
I have run ads in craigslist and newspaper for free fill with overwhelming results. Might work with pond sludge.

AI Inc
11-25-2008, 09:32 AM
Any room to spread and let it dry on site, then ad to give it away as argos suggested?

dvlscape
11-25-2008, 09:36 AM
I've considered spreading it on site, but we are talking a high end property here, not my first choice, more like my last choice. I have also contacted some local farmers and have had no interest so far.

EagleLandscape
11-25-2008, 04:16 PM
talk to a nursery or a company that makes soil in your area, maybe they will let you dispose of it for free and they can make something out of it.

dvlscape
11-25-2008, 04:28 PM
If I do happen to find someone to take the muck, then there is the problem of finding someone with sealed body dump trucks to haul this stuff to the dump site. Regular dump trucks will leak all over the township.

tthomass
11-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Local soil/compost/mulch company should be very interested. They may even bring their own trucks in to get it. Contact trucking companies, tell them what you have and they will know where to take it for you or someone else.

ARGOS
11-25-2008, 08:39 PM
If I do happen to find someone to take the muck, then there is the problem of finding someone with sealed body dump trucks to haul this stuff to the dump site. Regular dump trucks will leak all over the township.

I forgot about that detail. Our dump truck would leave a mess for miles. Great for straining.

dvlscape
11-25-2008, 08:48 PM
Ok I got my est. back from a very reputable, experienced pond excavation company. I can mark that up a few thousand and do the site restoration, which should just be some ruts and tracks through the lawn. They will protect the driveway and do everything else involve, fish, permits, draining the pond, ect. They say there is 400 + yards of muck in there. (1.5' deep muck in a 1/4 acre pond. $19,500 is their price to me.

What do you guys think of that pricing? Any thoughts? I don't think its too bad when you consider everything involved. I know they are making money though.

I will call a few local soil guys tomorrow before submitting this bid, and see if any of them have interest in the excavated slop, if I were to do the job instead.

ARGOS
11-25-2008, 08:56 PM
I know they are making money though.

Shouldn't they?

$50 a yard. Dredged, removed, replaced. Sounds decent to me.

SILVERSTREAK INC
11-25-2008, 10:18 PM
yeah thats an awesome price i was going to tell you to call that soil guy up there on skippack pike blacks farm 610 584 - 4513

if not i know a man who may be interested his yard is in quakertown 1800topsoil name is mike butler

JDUtah
11-26-2008, 01:15 AM
Post this question in the organic forum, I know Treegal1 uses it. She might throw you some good ideas. (especially if you mention it might end up at a dump)

Man, how do you guys deal with this color scheme?

BluestoneOL
11-30-2008, 12:43 AM
Just happened to stumble on the thread and thought I might be able to help.

I had a 1+ acre pond cleaned out and re-clayed this past summer and it cost me about $40,000! The clay had to be bought and trucked and was about a third of my cost.

The excavator actually left all the material on site and just dug some very deep holes beyond the pond. He used the excavated material as base material for some mounding and shaping as well as for fill for my neighbors driveway that he also installed. The material is highly organic and a great soil condition but needs to be spread fairly thing for it to dry out, and it takes a long time to dry out unless it is turned. Keep in mind if you try and bury this stuff those holes are very dangerous as they don't support any weight so if someone falls in they're as good as gone. I'm in a rural area and had no real concerns about anyone falling in, but I kept the area lined with temp safety fence and signs for two months. Also, the area around those holes will need to be reshaped one final time since as the material dries it also shrinks. My holes were about 30 feet deep and have settled close to 4 feet in some spots but avg about 2 all over.

BluestoneOL
11-30-2008, 12:49 AM
You might also try posting the question on the Pond Boss Website Forum...lots of helpfull experts/people.

http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

yamadooski
11-30-2008, 07:52 AM
I know some of the sod fields around south florida use muck base for sod.
YOu might calling a local sod farm?

dvlscape
11-30-2008, 12:02 PM
Thanks for all the responses. I decided to have the experienced company handle the job. We will handle the cleanup and restoration, assuming we get the job. Its a high end property in the middle of a very nice community so the idea of disposing on side really won't work.

The sod farm might have been a good idea though, we have 2 that are pretty local. The problem of the sealed body dump trucks still exists?? even if I did find someone to take the sludge. Thanks.

BluestoneOL
11-30-2008, 12:52 PM
If you have any local hog farms you might check with them about renting some of their equipment. I dont know much about the specifics, but I do know hog manure tends to be pretty thin and generally needs some type tank with a pump to be transported. Then again, depending on the area, this equipment may not be embraced, even if for just a couple days.

airclawn
12-05-2008, 06:42 PM
Gee, if you don't know what to do with it and do not have the equipment then a good plan would be to PASS... a lot less hassle! we could ALL do ALL KINDS of jobs if 1) we knew how & 2) had the equipment!

NNJLandman
12-08-2008, 03:32 PM
Its going to be in your best interest to hire the local company who knows what they are doing. Not saying you couldn't accomplish it, but just think about those trucks are going to be making a mess everytime they leave the site etc...its not an easy job, but I'm sure they have the tricks to do it right and efficiently.

04superduty
12-09-2008, 08:21 AM
see if any local trucking companies have side dumps, that way you wont spill sludge across town.