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LushGreenLawn
11-30-2008, 11:53 AM
Hey guys,

Please take some time to check out my website. I made it from a basic template, so its kind of plain. When I have the time and money (and if the site proves to provide leads), I will have a site designed by a professional.

Also, because I don't have any pictures of houses that I mow (never bothered to take any pics) I used some pictures that are public domain. I understand that sometimes pictures from other company's get mis-labeled as public domain, so if you see a picture that is yours, let me know, I will replace it. (There are only 4 pictures) I will post my own pictures in the spring when everything is looking good again.

The site is at www.lushgreenlawn2.com, and will be moved to www.lushgreenlawn.com once the domain is transferred to where it is supposed to be.

Any comments, good or bad, are appreciated.

Right Touch
11-30-2008, 11:57 AM
great start looks professional, neat and clean.

DLAWNS
11-30-2008, 12:03 PM
The site looks awesome. I think everything looks very professional. The only thing that caught my eye was on the contact us page. Is that your home address? Might I suggest a P.O. Box? I just don't feel totally comfortable giving out my home address to customers or putting it on the internet. I'm not bashing, just my thoughts.

LushGreenLawn
11-30-2008, 12:34 PM
The site looks awesome. I think everything looks very professional. The only thing that caught my eye was on the contact us page. Is that your home address? Might I suggest a P.O. Box? I just don't feel totally comfortable giving out my home address to customers or putting it on the internet. I'm not bashing, just my thoughts.

Hey, this is one thread where bashing would be appreciated. That is something that I may change. I worry about having my home address on there also. I get all my mail and invoices at that address, because I am always working when the post office is open. (I even print my own stamps to avoid having to go to the post office). But I guess having it online is not such a good idea. Hmm, mabye I should take it off my business cards also.

DLAWNS
11-30-2008, 12:37 PM
I know my post office, the p.o. boxes are seperate from the rest of the post office, so you can get in there in off hours. Hope this helps. The rest of the site looks great, though.

Chris B.
11-30-2008, 01:07 PM
In the testimonials, at the end of Ryan L. it says. They just a good job. I think you may want to fix the wording there.

and Jimmy P. says then I was with (edited), I think it should say "when" I was with ( edited).

Chris B.
11-30-2008, 01:09 PM
Oh, other then that I think it looks great.

scagdude
11-30-2008, 01:43 PM
great website looks very professional

LushGreenLawn
11-30-2008, 03:57 PM
In the testimonials, at the end of Ryan L. it says. They just a good job. I think you may want to fix the wording there.

and Jimmy P. says then I was with (edited), I think it should say "when" I was with ( edited).

Thanks for pointing that out. I mis-typed from their notes.

LushGreenLawn
11-30-2008, 03:59 PM
I know my post office, the p.o. boxes are seperate from the rest of the post office, so you can get in there in off hours. Hope this helps. The rest of the site looks great, though.

I should have thought of that! Thinking back, the rare times that I have been in the post office, mine is set up the same way. I remember now, waiting for them to open, people were coming in to get mail from their P.O. boxes. I guess I'm not in there that often so I forgot. That is something I will definatly look into.

stick9
12-01-2008, 01:39 AM
Testimonial page needs a little work.

"and they just a good job." <-- what does that mean? Direct quote from ryans testimonial.

keep the formatting the same. Either remove the hyphen before Ryan, or put one before Jimmy and Mark.

Kiril
12-01-2008, 10:02 AM
1) JS menu needs to go, or some type of graceful fall back menu. What you are doing with that menu can easily be done with CSS.

2) Positioning (contact us) and overflow problems (all pages)

3) Misspelled "receive" in your contact form

4) Code is not valid. Please validate and consider using a more recent DTD ( http://validator.w3.org/ )

5) Mixture of hardcoded style, inline style, and linked style is a NIGHTMARE. Separation of style and content is the recommended way to maintain code.

6) NO document structure, accessibility compliance, site map.

LushGreenLawn
12-01-2008, 01:41 PM
:walking:1) JS menu needs to go, or some type of graceful fall back menu. What you are doing with that menu can easily be done with CSS.

2) Positioning (contact us) and overflow problems (all pages)

3) Misspelled "receive" in your contact form

4) Code is not valid. Please validate and consider using a more recent DTD ( http://validator.w3.org/ )

5) Mixture of hardcoded style, inline style, and linked style is a NIGHTMARE. Separation of style and content is the recommended way to maintain code.

6) NO document structure, accessibility compliance, site map.

I made this site from a template. Unfortunatly, I have no control over any of these types of problems, except the mis-spelling.

Team-Green L&L
12-01-2008, 01:45 PM
:walking:

I made this site from a template. Unfortunatly, I have no control over any of these types of problems, except the mis-spelling.

If you have no control over your code then you have no use for the site. That's like having a storage room where the manager holds the key. What's worse is that this "manager" controls your visibility and that would not suffice for me. IMO.

LushGreenLawn
12-01-2008, 01:51 PM
If you have no control over your code then you have no use for the site. That's like having a storage room where the manager holds the key. What's worse is that this "manager" controls your visibility and that would not suffice for me. IMO.

Well, part of it is that I have no idea how to design a site. I wouldn't know code if I saw it. I can use site builder to move things around, edd things, ect, but that about it,

So your saying, because I can't manipulate code, I should not have a website? Would a customer visiting my site notice the difference between good code and bad code? It seems to me that everyone that has looked at the site from a customers prospective, and not a web designers prospective has liked it.

Team-Green L&L
12-01-2008, 01:57 PM
Well, part of it is that I have no idea how to design a site. I wouldn't know code if I saw it. I can use site builder to move things around, edd things, ect, but that about it,

So your saying, because I can't manipulate code, I should not have a website?

I am saying that you or someone hired by yourself should always have complete access to all your code at all times. That is a gimme IMO.

Would a customer visiting my site notice the difference between good code and bad code?

None who actually goes to your site will know if your code is valid, but research shows that Google alone has 49% of the internet marketplace and 87% of internet users find there sites via a search engine. The search engines spiders WILL know the difference and list you accordingly. Research also shows that the first 3 results on a search gets 95% of it's traffic.

It seems to me that everyone that has looked at the site from a customers prospective, and not a web designers prospective has liked it.

I do like the layout, but what's the point in building a high-class business in the middle of the woods unless you build a highway or billboard to draw customers. Google is the cheapest billboard around for it's effectiveness.

We have casinos in Indiana that market to Ohio due to our laws against gambling. Since there businesses can't be seen driving down the main street (Google) they must spend astronomical figures on promotions to draw in traffic that, otherwise, would not think of the casino on a Saturday night.

Kiril
12-01-2008, 02:04 PM
FTP access = access to code (in almost every case when using site builders)

Team-Green L&L
12-01-2008, 02:07 PM
FTP access = access to code (in almost every case when using site builders)

The question is whether or not he knows his account info. I am afraid he doesn't know the details he needs.

Server: Usually = your domain name
User: You created it when you bought your hosting package
Pass: Only you would know this

Kiril
12-01-2008, 02:14 PM
:walking:

I made this site from a template. Unfortunatly, I have no control over any of these types of problems, except the mis-spelling.

Which "site builder" are you using?

LushGreenLawn
12-01-2008, 05:38 PM
I used the homestead site builder.

As you can tell, I really don't know what I'm doing this. Its hard to find the time to learn, because my time is focused on other parts of my business.

I see what your saying about the search engines. I would like to rank high for certain keywords obviously. So your saying it will be harder for me to gain ranking with code thats not up to par. Why would a company like Homestead (Run by the makers of Quickbooks) design templates with bad code, you think they would know better.

I am in the process of signing up with google adwords, but would also like to rank high in the regular listings also.

WebMan
12-01-2008, 06:47 PM
My main quick suggestion as far as "looks" would be to take out the "welcome to lushgreenlawns.com" in the header panel.
They already know what web site they are on and that's your most valuable "real estate" on the page. Put your company slogan or something else that really is an "attention grabber" about your company there.