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Lawn-Scapes
12-01-2008, 11:50 PM
My web site was launched just a few minutes ago.. very excited. Please take the time to look around and tell me what you think.. likes and dislikes, design, content, code, etc. I think Steve did a fantastic job and was an absolute pleasure to deal with... as I can be pretty fussy/picky. :)

Now it's time to market & advertise heavily and drive potential clients to my site!

Looking forward to your comments or questions...

www.mdlawns.com

Teresa Weisenbarger
12-02-2008, 02:42 AM
I like the Site Design And Content. Yes Steve is Done Great Job.

Lawn-Scapes
12-02-2008, 12:50 PM
That's it??? I get one response ;)

Anyone else?

Mimowerman
12-02-2008, 03:37 PM
awesome!!! Very nice , and I like the pictures of work done very professional .

KACYDS
12-02-2008, 04:47 PM
That's it??? I get one response ;)

Anyone else?

Be patient.........lol:laugh:

Looks great.

Turfdoctor1
12-02-2008, 05:19 PM
My web site was launched just a few minutes ago.. very excited. Please take the time to look around and tell me what you think.. likes and dislikes, design, content, code, etc. I think Steve did a fantastic job and was an absolute pleasure to deal with... as I can be pretty fussy/picky. :)

Now it's time to market & advertise heavily and drive potential clients to my site!

Looking forward to your comments or questions...

www.mdlawns.com

I'm not one to be asking about code, etc., but I think your site looks very nice. The design is very nice. It flows very well. I like your color scheme. I like your services page because there is less text. I wonder if the text on the home page might lose the interest of the customer. I would prefer to have a page like that on my "about us" page, rather than both the home page and the "about us" page.

i actually linked your site in an email that I sent to a designer as a sample of what I was looking for. So, definitely, i think it looks good.

Lawn-Scapes
12-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Be patient.........lol:laugh:

Looks great.

NO.. I want feedback NOW :laugh:

Just too excited I guess. Thanks!

Lawn-Scapes
12-02-2008, 05:26 PM
I'm not one to be asking about code, etc., but I think your site looks very nice. The design is very nice. It flows very well. I like your color scheme. I like your services page because there is less text. I wonder if the text on the home page might lose the interest of the customer. I would prefer to have a page like that on my "about us" page, rather than both the home page and the "about us" page.

i actually linked your site in an email that I sent to a designer as a sample of what I was looking for. So, definitely, i think it looks good.

Hey thanks Turfdoc... I'll take your thoughts into consideration. Thanks for the compliments.

Kiril
12-02-2008, 10:41 PM
1) Code is not valid. Please validate!!

HTML: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

2) Mixture of hardcoded style, inline style, linked style is a NIGHTMARE.
Separation of style and content is the recommended way to maintain your code.

3) Limited or no document structure/outline (check the "show outline" check box on html validator options)

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html

4) Limited or no accessibility compliance

WCAG/Sec508: http://www.cynthiasays.com/fulloptions.asp


Beyond the above, I do like the design of the site. Nice use of repeated background image in the header.
Personally I would make the center header image and the website address a clickable link back to the home page.

Lawn-Scapes
12-02-2008, 11:08 PM
1) Code is not valid. Please validate!!

HTML: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

2) Mixture of hardcoded style, inline style, linked style is a NIGHTMARE.
Separation of style and content is the recommended way to maintain your code.

3) Limited or no document structure/outline (check the "show outline" check box on html validator options)

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_5.html

4) Limited or no accessibility compliance

WCAG/Sec508: http://www.cynthiasays.com/fulloptions.asp


Beyond the above, I do like the design of the site. Nice use of repeated background image in the header.
Personally I would make the center header image and the website address a clickable link back to the home page.

Kiril,

I was hoping you would respond.. Thanks!

Is it really horrible? Are these easy to correct or is it really involved?

Lawn-Scapes
12-02-2008, 11:27 PM
Oh.. the way it is.. how do the problems effect the site? Will it not do well in search rankings?

Kiril
12-02-2008, 11:34 PM
Kiril,

I was hoping you would respond.. Thanks!

Is it really horrible? Are these easy to correct or is it really involved?

Many of the errors are related to hard coded styles, which have been deprecated for the DTD the pages are using in favor of CSS. These are not "serious" errors per se, but it makes the code extremely difficult to manage efficiently. Moving the style out the content and into style sheets where it belongs is not that big a deal, but will take some time.

Whether or not you fix those types of errors (no attribute) is entirely up to you. The other non-style related errors should be fixed IMHO, especially the lack of character encoding, and these errors are easily fixed with a good text editor.

Kiril
12-02-2008, 11:44 PM
Oh.. the way it is.. how do the problems effect the site? Will it not do well in search rankings?

I can't say without testing in various browsers. I looked at it in 3 different standards compliant browsers (current versions) and the presentation of the site remained consistent. This probably means your site will render correctly with most all current desktop browsers. There is some CSS used that will pose problems in older browsers.

As far as search engines go, the lack of any document outline could affect how bots read the code, and given the layout of the pages, incorporating some document layout can be easily done.

Note: after looking at the code on one of your pages, there is some attempt at document structure/outline, but it was used incorrectly.

Accessibility compliance is optional for a site like this, but highly recommended. Being accessibility compliant also helps web bots efficient parse your code.

ICT Bill
12-02-2008, 11:57 PM
Our buddy Kiril is pointing out some flaws, "fatal" not by any means just the hurry up that happens with websites

It is hard to find your phone number, is the biggest flaw I find, you should have it on every page right where everyone can see it, every page

If they are local they will call you, most likely

I also doubt many in Keymar/Keysville (one of my favorite areas) will even have internet access, door hangers for them

DO NOT sit around thinking your web site will generate business, it will not. It is a wonderful place to tell your customers to visit, you are the one that generates the income.........period

speak to everyone you meet and TELL them about your business

Great website I really like the colors and photos, keep it up to date over the years. I am sure you have seen the websites that have convention dates from 2002 or letters from customers from 1999, that is the most difficult part finding the time to keep it up to date

great job

Kiril
12-03-2008, 12:01 AM
As a general all around opinion of the code, not bad, not great. I do like the inclusion of CSS for printing purposes.

No keyword meta tag, but not that big of a deal IMO. You should have it in there just to cover the bases, and you can use keywords while conforming to accessibility standards (hint, hint).

Good alternate descriptions on most images (which is an accessibility thing), more liberal use of the title attribute would be nice to see (eg. not empty).

Personally I try to avoid using tables on sites like these, not necessary and too much code.

There is also some unnecessary tags that could dumped in favor of CSS styling.

Well, you get the gist of it. Relatively good job coding, but could be better.

Kiril
12-03-2008, 12:18 AM
BTW, the following code should fix your encoding error. Use it in place of all the code before the opening head tag on all pages.

Replace this:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">



With the following:


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-us" lang="en-us">

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Our buddy Kiril is pointing out some flaws, "fatal" not by any means just the hurry up that happens with websites

It is hard to find your phone number, is the biggest flaw I find, you should have it on every page right where everyone can see it, every page

If they are local they will call you, most likely

I also doubt many in Keymar/Keysville (one of my favorite areas) will even have internet access, door hangers for them

DO NOT sit around thinking your web site will generate business, it will not. It is a wonderful place to tell your customers to visit, you are the one that generates the income.........period

speak to everyone you meet and TELL them about your business

Great website I really like the colors and photos, keep it up to date over the years. I am sure you have seen the websites that have convention dates from 2002 or letters from customers from 1999, that is the most difficult part finding the time to keep it up to date

great job

Thanks Bill.. I'm definitely not relying solely on the site to generate business for me. I will be doing everything I can to drive people there! I took a quick look at your site and bookmarked it. Would like to learn/know more about it...

Thanks again.

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Kiril,

Thanks a million bud!

Team-Green L&L
12-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Photos and Contact Us nav links are broken on this page:

http://www.mdlawns.com/services.htm

7 W3C Validation errors which will be very important when IE9 is released.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.mdlawns.com/services.htm&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

Meta Description Tag is empty:
<meta name="description" content="" />

No Meta Keyword Tag

Two Language Declarations as mentioned above

Just a few that I found with a quick scan. You also need content.

As for looks, it looks good!

Kiril
12-03-2008, 01:03 AM
Photos and Contact Us nav links are broken on this page:

http://www.mdlawns.com/services.htm

No, they work, but there is some weird hover thing going on with those links.
The link only activates around the first character.

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 01:29 AM
No, they work, but there is some weird hover thing going on with those links.
The link only activates around the first character.

I noticed this too. It only happens to the photo & contact links when the services page is open..

Edit.. it only happens with firefox. IE is okay.

Kiril
12-03-2008, 01:44 AM
I noticed this too. It only happens to the photo & contact links when the services page is open..

Edit.. it only happens with firefox. IE is okay.

Note how the positioned elements overflow into the left column. That is your problem.

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 01:51 AM
I do now.. :)

Is that the way "MD" shows up (next line) on your pc? I use high 1440x900 or something like that and "... Carroll County, MD" is on the same line.

Kiril
12-03-2008, 01:54 AM
I am using an even higher resolution, and it does not matter, it always breaks at the comma.

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 01:59 AM
I don't understand.. I've viewed my site on 3 different computers. MD does not drop down to the next line any of them. Does anything else look like it's out of place on other pages?

Kiril
12-03-2008, 02:17 AM
I don't understand.. I've viewed my site on 3 different computers. MD does not drop down to the next line any of them. Does anything else look like it's out of place on other pages?

For that same green text, on every page the last word breaks to the next line.
I did check in another browser, and it doesn't break. Probably something to do with my FF font sizing.

Lawn-Scapes
12-03-2008, 02:21 AM
Okay thanks again.. gotta go to sleep. Deal with tomorrow.

Kiril
12-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Okay thanks again.. gotta go to sleep. Deal with tomorrow.

Fixed your services page so it validates and fixed the menu problem. IMHO, the code is bloated and could be reduced by 30-40%.

Note: Changed relative URI to absolute so you can test this code directly. Probably would be a good idea to rename the file for testing. If it does, back up your original and use this code if you want. I obviously did not test the code after making the absolute URI changes, however I did run it through the validator.

Also, the CSS file for printing does not exist, so I commented it out since it was creating a CSS validation error and the main CSS file is still kicking warnings for unquoted font families (easy fix).


HTML:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-us" lang="en-us">
<head>
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: Modified DTD/Namespace Above -->
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
<title>Lawn Care and Landscaping Services - Lawn-Scapes of Maryland Serving Carroll County</title>
<meta name="description" content="" />
<meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="TRUE" />
<meta name="copyright" content="Lawnscapes of Maryland Inc. All content is copyrighted and may not be used without permission." />
<meta name="author" content="KT"/>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.mdlawns.com/lawnscapes.css" />
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: commented out invalid file reference -->
<!-- <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.mdlawns.com/lawnscapesprint.html" media="print" /> -->
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://www.mdlawns.com/lawnscapes.ico" />
</head><body>
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: Added table summary attribute -->
<table summary="main content table" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="850">
<tbody><tr>
<td align="center">
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/springlandscaping.jpg" alt="spring clean-up and treatments, landscaping service" title="" border="0" height="111" width="125" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="111" width="20" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/summerlawn-landscaping.jpg" alt="lawn care and landscaping for a beautiful yard all summer" title="" border="0" height="111" width="125" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="111" width="14" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/lawnscapeslogo.gif" alt="Lawn-Scapes of Maryland - serving Carroll County and surrounding areas in MD" title="" border="0" height="111" width="234" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="111" width="14" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/fallcleanup-landscaping.jpg" alt="fall clean-up, leaf blowing, lawn winterizing, landscaping services" title="" border="0" height="111" width="125" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="111" width="20" />
<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/wintersnowplowing.jpg" alt="snow plowing for Carroll County Maryland" title="" border="0" height="111" width="125" />
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:5px;">
<td><img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="8" width="22" /></td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e4dccc">
<td>

<img id="urpic" src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/landscaping.jpg" alt="Landscaping services in Finksburg, MD 21048" title="" align="right" border="0" height="155" width="160" />
<h4>www.mdlawns.com <img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="8" width="125" /> Establishing roots in the community since 1998</h4>
<h1 id="mainheading">Lawn Care &amp; Landscaping Services</h1>
<h2 id="subheading">Servicing areas throughout Carroll County, MD</h2>
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: Added table summary attribute -->
<table id="leftnav" summary="embedded left column table with menu and county service list" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10" width="175">
<tbody><tr>
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: Added new class for menu cells -->
<td class="menucell">
<h3><a href="http://www.mdlawns.com/index.htm">Home</a></h3></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="menucell">
<h3><a href="http://www.mdlawns.com/about.htm">About Us</a></h3></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="menucell">
<h3><i>Services</i></h3></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="menucell">
<h3><a href="http://www.mdlawns.com/photos.htm">Photos</a></h3></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="menucell">
<h3><a href="http://www.mdlawns.com/contact.htm">Contact Us</a></h3></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<h5>Proudly Serving Carroll County:</h5>

<ul style="list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; list-style-position: outside;">
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Eldersburg</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Finksburg</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Hampstead</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Keymar</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Linwood</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Manchester</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Marriotsville</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Mount Airy</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">New Windsor</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Reisterstown</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Sykesville</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Taneytown</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Union Bridge</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Upperco</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Westminster</li>
<li style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;">Woodbine</li>
</ul>

<p class="desc">Zip codes: 21784, 21048, 21074, 21757, 21764, 21102, 21104, 21771, 21776, 21136, 21784, 21787, 21791, 21155, 21157, 21158, 21797
</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="right">
<h5 align="left">Secure Online Payments:</h5>
<!-- PayPal -->
<form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post">
<input name="cmd" value="_s-xclick" type="hidden" />
<input name="hosted_button_id" value="1575748" type="hidden" />
<input src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/btn_paynowCC_LG.gif" name="submit" alt="Make a secure payment" type="image" />
<img alt="" src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/pixel.gif" border="0" height="1" width="1" />
</form>
<!-- end PayPal -->

<img src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/spacer.gif" alt="spacer image" border="0" height="30" width="100" />
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
<div class="ctmain"> <!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: Added new division to fix menu bug -->
<p>Lawn-Scapes of Maryland provides the following services throughout the Carroll County, MD area:</p>

<!--<ul style="list-style-type:square;"> -->
<p><img class="rightpic" src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/curbappeal.jpg" alt="Curb appeal through lawn care and landscaping" title="" align="right" border="0" height="230" width="280" />
<b>Lawn Maintenance/Management</b></p>

<p class="services">
Mowing<br />
Fertilizing – Organic Based<br />
Lime Application<br />
Aeration</p>

<p><b>Landscape Maintenance/Management</b></p>

<p class="services">
Hedge &amp; Shrub Trimming<br />
Weeding<br />
Ornamental Tree Trimming/Pruning<br />
Topiary<br />
Fertilizing
</p>
<p><b>Mulching</b></p>
<p class="services">Bed Edging</p>
<p><b><img class="rightpic" src="http://www.mdlawns.com/images/poolpatiolandscaping.jpg" alt="Pool, patio, and back yard planning and landscaping" title="" align="right" border="0" height="230" width="280" />
Lawn Renovation</b></p>

<p class="services">
Soil Test<br />
Amendments<br />
Aeration &amp; Seeding<br />
Grading<br />
Sod Installation
</p>

<p><b>Spring &amp; Fall Clean Up</b></p>
<p><b>Seasonal Colors – Annual Flowers</b></p>
<p><b>Landscape Planning &amp; Installation</b></p>
<p><b>Outdoor Lighting</b></p>
<p><b>Decorative Landscape Rock</b></p>
<p><b>Pressure Washing &amp; Staining</b></p>
<p><b>Gutter Cleaning</b></p>
<p><b>Snow Plowing</b></p>
<!--</ul> end main list-->
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h6>� 2008 Lawn-Scapes of Maryland Inc. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;•&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.cbscreative.com/" target="_blank" style="font-weight: 500;">
Web site design: cbscreative.com</a></h6>

<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div> <!-- Kiril 2008-12-03: End new division -->
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

</body></html>

CSS (add the following to the bottom of your CSS file):

/* Kiril 2008-12-03: Added 2 new classes for validation & menu link bug */

.menucell {background-image: url(images/bg-btn.gif); height: 24px;}
.ctmain {margin-left: 18%;}

Lawn-Scapes
12-04-2008, 01:37 AM
Some changes were made.. How's it looking now?

Team-Green L&L
12-04-2008, 09:23 AM
Some changes were made.. How's it looking now?

You really should remove that second language declaration tag asap.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-us" lang="en-us">

It on line 2 of your code.

Kiril
12-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Some changes were made.. How's it looking now?

Almost there for the services page. You missed the encoding definition at the top of the page.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

The above should be on line 1.


I noticed a spacing image was added in the footer, but was not closed properly. This was probably added due to where I closed the positioning div in order to center the footer text again.

If you move the division closing tag to the line right after the ordered list comment, you can revert the footer back to what it was. Also, if you throw a bottom margin on that division, you can lose the paragraph spacer (which is not the way spacing should be done).

Note what I did with the following:

Changed HTML following the "end main list" comment.

I dumped the paragraph spacers in favor of CSS spacing, added an inline class for spacing, added a footer division, added accessibility attribute to link, removed target attribute (target attributes are frowned upon).


<!--</ul> end main list-->
<!-- Kiril 2008-12-04: End main content div, start footer div -->
</div><div class="footer">
&copy; 2008 Lawn-Scapes of Maryland Inc.<span class="sp4">•</span><a href="http://www.cbscreative.com/" title="Web site design by cbscreative.com">Web site design: cbscreative.com</a>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
</body></html>

And changed CSS (added footer class, added footer class to h6, modified main content class so it wouldn't overflow the table and added bottom margin, removed inline style from link to css file, added inline spacing class). Following only shows changed portions. Note shorthand in body markup and quoted font families

CAREFUL - this CSS is ONLY what was changed, not the entire file.

body {
background-image: url(images/bg-lawnscapesmaryland.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-color: #fff;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}



h1 {
color: #800000;
font-size: 28px;
font-family: "Times New Roman, Times, Serif";
font-weight: bold;
margin: 20px 50px 0px 50px;
z-index: 10;
}

h2 {
color: #006438;
font-size: 22px;
font-family: "Times New Roman, Times, Serif";
font-weight: bold;
font-style: italic;
margin: 10px 50px 0px 50px;
z-index: 10;
}

h3 {
color: #800000;
font-size: 16px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
font-weight: 600;
margin: 0px 0px 2px 30px;
z-index: 10;
}

h4 {
color: #800000;
font-size: 15px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
font-weight: 500;
font-style: italic;
margin: 10px 20px 10px 20px;
z-index: 10;
}

h5 {
color: #800000;
font-size: 13px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
font-style: italic;
margin: 20px 0px 20px 30px;
z-index: 10;
}

h6, .footer {
color: #006438;
font-size: 10px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
font-style: italic;
font-weight: 500;
text-align: center;
margin: 20px 0px 20px 0px;
z-index: 10;
}

p {
color: #00341c;
font-size: 13px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
line-height: 110%;
margin: 20px 30px 10px 30px;
z-index: 10;
}

li {
color: #00341c;
font-size: 13px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
line-height: 110%;
margin: 10px 30px 0px 10px;
z-index: 10;
}

blockquote {
color: #00341c;
font-size: 13px;
font-family: "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif";
line-height: 110%;
margin: 20px 50px 10px 50px;
z-index: 10;
}



/* Kiril 2008-12-04: Added new classes for validation & menu link bug, footer, spacing */

.menucell {background-image: url(http://www.mdlawns.com/images/bg-btn.gif); height: 24px;}
.ctmain {margin: 0 2.7% 4% 18%;}
.footer {margin-bottom: 10%;}
.footer a {font-weight: 500;}
.sp4 {padding: 0 20px 0 20px;}

Kiril
12-04-2008, 10:48 AM
You really should remove that second language declaration tag asap.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-us" lang="en-us">

It on line 2 of your code.

Care to explain why (after you review document conformance (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/normative.html))

Lawn-Scapes
12-04-2008, 10:55 AM
Team... How does it adversely effect things?

Thanks for your reply and everyone else too..

B & B Yardscape
12-14-2008, 04:14 PM
I haven't read any of the previous posts so I don't know what they have said.

I love the "Establishing roots in the community since 1998". Most say, we've been around since, or established in ??. The establishing roots is great for the green industry. I Might use/steal that idea.

Maybe I should stop drinking (blue vodka see other post) before reading your web page, but I like this also: "When searching for a service provider. . . " The reason I like it, is because that is why they are at your site. They are looking for a landscaper. You are speaking to them.

Is the green part of your logo the silohette of Maryland? If so, another great idea. If not, I see a woman blowing something off of her upraised hand.

Okay, that's twice today I have said that I liked two sites. Some will disagree and tell me to stop drinking, but they can kiss my a$$.

Don't be surprised to see some of your wording and code on my site. I don't have to ask, but I will, Can I use some of your wording and code?

Nice job.

Team-Green L&L
12-14-2008, 09:55 PM
I haven't read any of the previous posts so I don't know what they have said.

I love the "Establishing roots in the community since 1998". Most say, we've been around since, or established in ??. The establishing roots is great for the green industry. I Might use/steal that idea.

Maybe I should stop drinking (blue vodka see other post) before reading your web page, but I like this also: "When searching for a service provider. . . " The reason I like it, is because that is why they are at your site. They are looking for a landscaper. You are speaking to them.

Is the green part of your logo the silohette of Maryland? If so, another great idea. If not, I see a woman blowing something off of her upraised hand.

Okay, that's twice today I have said that I liked two sites. Some will disagree and tell me to stop drinking, but they can kiss my a$$.

Don't be surprised to see some of your wording and code on my site. I don't have to ask, but I will, Can I use some of your wording and code?

Nice job.

This is really none of my business what-so-ever, but I have to chime in here due to the blatant disregard to etiquette IMO. I am a web designer /developer and would be shocked if someone asked me to use my code on a public forum by stating that, "I don't have to ask, but I will." Are you serious? I spend hundreds of hours on my websites and content and I'm sure he/she does as well. I am appalled at your statements. Your ethics are foul. If you ever plagiarized my sites I would send you a cease and desist letter immediately and follow up with a lawsuit by Monday morning. I would also expose you on every forum, blog, and network I could and email all the major search engines of your actions (including this thread).

You obviously have no regard for the efforts of web designers, copywriters, and such. We work hard to keep new, fresh, and good content and when someone "tells" us that they're going to "steal" the copywrite without any remorse it is disgusting!!! :nono::nono::nono:

B & B Yardscape
12-15-2008, 11:58 AM
Team Green, I just visited your site. Are you the originator of the phrase "Thank you for visiting us", "all work is guaranteed!", or "locally owned and operated"? Did you ask for permission to use those? And I'm sure you NEVER cut and pasted a picture or image of something and used it. You've never visited a site and saw something that you liked and used it?

What about "Click Quote"? Is that yours? Did you come up with that great saying for clicking to get a quote?

The fact is I like some of the wording used on his page. The fact is if ANYONE wants to use those words they can. They are now public domain and unless he trademarked, copy writed, or licensed them in any way, they can be used by anyone.

As far as code goes, I don't know. I'm not a web page designer that spends 100s of hours working on his page and trying to come up with new code to impress my friends and family.

But I would guess that you would have to prove that you were the originator and held some kind of license on it in order to make me cease and desist. By the way, all the code on my page was copied. Like I said, I'm not a web page designer. I didn't come up with any original code. Someone else has done it before me. I probably should mention that all of the code on my pages is common knowledge or free script that everyone has permission to use. And all of the pictures are mine except 1 and I state that it is not my work.

FYI: on the Real Estate Services page of your site, (you know, the one you spend hundreds of hours on) there are 2 pictures that don't show up.

Kiril
12-15-2008, 12:20 PM
But I would guess that you would have to prove that you were the originator and held some kind of license on it in order to make me cease and desist.

The act of putting something on "paper" or creating something tangible (like an image, code, etc...) automatically gets granted copyright protection to the original creator. Just because something is on the internet does NOT automatically make it public domain. :nono: I have had people take my code, change a few lines, strip the copyright and replace it with theirs. Guess what ... that IS a copyright violation, even under the GNU which that particular code was licensed.

If you want to protect your work, put a copyright statement with conditions of use. There are a ton of open licenses that can be used for this purpose, GNU being the most popular.

Lawn-Scapes
01-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Update..

Some changes were made to the overall layout and added the payment page. What do you think?

Got rid of the few glitches but I still have a few errors on each page... not sure why. If anyone can shed some light on this.. would appreciate it.

lifetree
01-11-2009, 10:52 PM
The website is nice ... and congratulations on stipulating that the pictures shown are your own work !!

Kiril
01-13-2009, 10:50 AM
Update..

Some changes were made to the overall layout and added the payment page. What do you think?

Got rid of the few glitches but I still have a few errors on each page... not sure why. If anyone can shed some light on this.. would appreciate it.

You need to fix the DTD as shown in post 28 (code above my first comment), and move hardcoded formatting into the CSS. Doing these things will take care of almost all the errors.

Lawn-Scapes
01-13-2009, 12:59 PM
Thanks Kiril.. I fixed the DTD but am a little nervous about messing with the CSS. I will try a little later...

JDUtah
01-13-2009, 04:03 PM
Dumb question here,

Does validating your code give you better search engine page rank?

Kiril
01-13-2009, 04:39 PM
Dumb question here,

Does validating your code give you better search engine page rank?

If the code is a mess, then there is a chance the bot will just skip over it.

Team-Green L&L
01-13-2009, 05:09 PM
Dumb question here,

Does validating your code give you better search engine page rank?

This is actually a great question. If you ask me...YES! If you ask many others...no. So far, Google and Yahoo haven't placed a great amount of emphasis on valid code, but with W3C's push and the internet growing at rapid speeds, it is presumable that the code will play a bigger role in the near future.

With that said, many people as well as myself have done controlled SEO to determine if it does play a role and have all concluded that it certainly DOES...just not as much as we'd like it to.

The #1 "Google-Juice" is still anchor text and backlinks. They want someone else to say your good.

JDUtah
01-13-2009, 05:36 PM
Thanks guys. My current site is actually validated. lol.

Lawn-Scapes
01-20-2009, 10:38 PM
I just added a coupon page. What do you think about the colors?

TomberLawn
01-20-2009, 11:35 PM
I like your website. Great pics in the photo gallery. I like your Dodge, too.

jhastrello
01-20-2009, 11:46 PM
Very nice. I'm working on mine now. If I would not have found the template (for frontpage) that I did, your layout and style would be similar to what I would have done.

I'm sure that it will serve you well.