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grasswhacker
12-10-2008, 06:09 AM
I own land that has an enormous amount of rock, both on land and creek all sizes. Also old rock walls scattered throughout.
I would like to sell the rock without expending alot of capital.
Was thinking about allowing contractors, or do it yourselfers to come, pick out the rock they want. and charge by the ton
They load and haul away.
What would be a fair price per ton, and what kind of personnal injury wavier would I need to protect myself from liability?
Does anyone do this, or buy rock from this type of business?

stuvecorp
12-10-2008, 11:10 AM
I have thought about doing something like you are talking about but I think you would need to sort it out to sized piles. I think if you let everyone come in it may get to be a circus. You want people to come, load and scale out without hanging out all day, right? It is a good idea just have to see what the market would like(money or convenience).

grasswhacker
12-10-2008, 11:43 AM
I have thought about doing something like you are talking about but I think you would need to sort it out to sized piles. I think if you let everyone come in it may get to be a circus. You want people to come, load and scale out without hanging out all day, right? It is a good idea just have to see what the market would like(money or convenience).

What I'm trying to avoid is having to buy equipment to extract and sort the rock.
They could use their equipment or labor to get the rock they want, in the size they need.
Just wanting to know what a fair price would be.
Kind of like a cut your own Christmas tree farm. lol

stuvecorp
12-10-2008, 01:24 PM
My thought would be on doing it the way you are talking you couldn't charge much. The reason I would say that is the customer has to bring their machine, sort out the rock which could be very time consuming. Do you have a skid or excavator? If you have some spare time you could do some sorting and then also you have more idea how much you have in quantity. If you have a machine, you could also sell some black dirt or fill dirt. As for pricing, check your area at the stone/supply yards and see if it would be worth it.

grasswhacker
12-10-2008, 01:44 PM
My thought would be on doing it the way you are talking you couldn't charge much. The reason I would say that is the customer has to bring their machine, sort out the rock which could be very time consuming. Do you have a skid or excavator? If you have some spare time you could do some sorting and then also you have more idea how much you have in quantity. If you have a machine, you could also sell some black dirt or fill dirt. As for pricing, check your area at the stone/supply yards and see if it would be worth it.

Yes, I have a small skid steer.
Saw this this morning:
http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-home-garden-landscape-rock-W0QQAdIdZ47192128

allinearth
12-11-2008, 07:59 PM
If you want to be hands off why don't you call a local nursery or stone yard to see if they would be interested in buying it. That way you don't have to deal with the public or do the harvesting. I know sometimes people call me and many times I go get the rock if its reasonable and its my off season.

grasswhacker
12-11-2008, 08:11 PM
If you want to be hands off why don't you call a local nursery or stone yard to see if they would be interested in buying it. That way you don't have to deal with the public or do the harvesting. I know sometimes people call me and many times I go get the rock if its reasonable and its my off season.

What do you pay per ton?

allinearth
12-11-2008, 08:27 PM
Field stone with color around here will wholesale for about 85-90/ton. I usually subtract my labor and machine as well as travel from that price. Much of the price of stone is getting it from the woods to the lot. Doesn't matter the price here though. What matters is what the market is there.

hosejockey2002
12-12-2008, 11:31 AM
I own land that has an enormous amount of rock, both on land and creek all sizes. Also old rock walls scattered throughout.
I would like to sell the rock without expending alot of capital.
Was thinking about allowing contractors, or do it yourselfers to come, pick out the rock they want. and charge by the ton
They load and haul away.
What would be a fair price per ton, and what kind of personnal injury wavier would I need to protect myself from liability?
Does anyone do this, or buy rock from this type of business?

If you are charging by the ton, you will need a drive-on scale that can be certified by your state's weights and measures department. That's not gonna be cheap.

For pricing, check other suppliers in the area, and cut your price in half. You'll have to. Here's why- If I'm buying rock, I want to go somewhere where the rock is sorted and the quarry can load it for me, or better yet, deliver it for a nominal fee. I don't have the time to haul my machine to the pit and find the rock I want and load it myself, so if I'm going to buy my rock that way, it's got to be really cheap.

Also, if you plan on running this as a legit business, there's the issue of permits. I don't know much about this, but extracting and selling rock from your land sounds a lot like commercial mining, and there is bound to be lots of state and federal rules and regs to deal with.

allinearth
12-12-2008, 08:43 PM
A pallet scale would suffice for weighing individual pallets. Or you could just figure out how much could go on an average pallet and sell it by the pallet.

grasswhacker
12-12-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks guys

XStream Aquatics
12-13-2008, 08:30 PM
I wouldn't have the time to come and gather my own rock even if you had the equipment. It's so much easier for me to buy it ready to go and have the supplier deliver it to me.

Fiano Landscapes
12-16-2008, 11:42 AM
We have done this in years past. We had no real luck in calling suppliers or selling it to other companies. We use this rock for lots of different things, so it was worth my time to have my employees to harvest stone for me one week in the fall. We typically have 50-100 used pallets from pavers and retaining wall block around our shop, so we made baskets and nailed them to pallets to make everything secure. We then sorted them into different sizes(when your constructing rock walls, water features, or veneering its nice). If your going to try to sell them its probably not a good idea especially if you don't have the proper equipment, but if you can use them like I have you will see huge returns on your investment. It also is a waiting game, you dont always use it as fast as you would like. We harvested 65 ton in one week with four guys, palletized, trucked to our shop and everything.

grasswhacker
12-16-2008, 11:51 AM
We have done this in years past. We had no real luck in calling suppliers or selling it to other companies. We use this rock for lots of different things, so it was worth my time to have my employees to harvest stone for me one week in the fall. We typically have 50-100 used pallets from pavers and retaining wall block around our shop, so we made baskets and nailed them to pallets to make everything secure. We then sorted them into different sizes(when your constructing rock walls, water features, or veneering its nice). If your going to try to sell them its probably not a good idea especially if you don't have the proper equipment, but if you can use them like I have you will see huge returns on your investment. It also is a waiting game, you dont always use it as fast as you would like. We harvested 65 ton in one week with four guys, palletized, trucked to our shop and everything.

Looks good.

BrandonV
12-16-2008, 08:15 PM
i could be wrong but you might accidently fall into a can of worms if you start selling rock , we had a guy locally doing that and he got accused on mining, in which you'll fall under msha and have to pay some hefty fines.

denver 2
12-22-2008, 08:22 PM
I own land that has an enormous amount of rock, both on land and creek all sizes. Also old rock walls scattered throughout.
I would like to sell the rock without expending alot of capital.
Was thinking about allowing contractors, or do it yourselfers to come, pick out the rock they want. and charge by the ton
They load and haul away.
What would be a fair price per ton, and what kind of personnal injury wavier would I need to protect myself from liability?
Does anyone do this, or buy rock from this type of business?

Grasswhacker, can you send me some pictures of the type of stone you have scattered about (walls,creek,field etc.) and how accessable is it to load stone. I may be interested.

Denver Martin Masonry

Email: kbmartin@fuse.net

ANC Stone Creations
12-23-2008, 02:58 AM
I would also like to see some pictures of the stone you are thinking of selling.

Is it Basalt or Granite?

Oh yah so here is how you determine the weight of the rock, Basalt weighs 165lbs per cubic ft and granite weighs 175lbs per cubic ft.

So a Basalt rock that is 2' x 3' x 2' = 12 cubic ft = 1980 lbs just under a ton
Granite that is the same size weighs 2100 lbs just over a ton

If you are measuring in inches L x W x H = devided by 1728 x Basalt or Granite

Hope this helps for you for figuring out the weight of the rock.

grasswhacker
12-23-2008, 11:58 AM
Here's some pics:

grasswhacker
12-23-2008, 12:03 PM
More pictures

grasswhacker
12-23-2008, 12:08 PM
still more

CertPro
12-23-2008, 06:05 PM
Thats some nice rock, but some of it looks like it serves a purpose like eliminating erosion

grasswhacker
12-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Thats some nice rock, but some of it looks like it serves a purpose like eliminating erosion

Some. We live more or less on a solid rock berm or ledge. I have exposed rock everywhere in my lawn and field.