Let it Snow

[bobcatuser]

Some pictures of the new salt brine operation, It was a late start this year but things look promising.

[Junior M]

I didnt know you owned a dump, lets get a full broadside shot of it...

[kreft]

X2................

[bobcatuser]

My fleet of Chevrolet trucks, moving the machines with the 5500.

[kreft]

Hey, Jlm.. LOoks like his snow bucket on the 320 is 1/8'' over the side of the trailer. Give him a ticket! lol

[Dirtman2007]

I need to get one of those huge snow buckets for my tak. I could use it as a mud bucket, that is if it could pick it up full of wet heavy mud!

[bobcatuser]

I didnt know you owned a dump, lets get a full broadside shot of it...

It's not my truck he is sub contracting some of the spraying.

[bobcat_ron]

Good God! I have never seen a bucket that large! You actually think your T320 is going to keep traction on ice! :laugh:





Wanna rent an MTL?!? :laugh:

[bobcatuser]

Good God! I have never seen a bucket that large! You actually think your T320 is going to keep traction on ice! :laugh:





Wanna rent an MTL?!? :laugh:

Ron, I can keep you busy at the Vancouver airport, if you want the work.

The T320 is going to be collecting windrows from the plow trucks and stacking the snow in the corners.

[Gravel Rat]

Good thing your not spreading the brine with your truck its horrible crap it should be outlawed. The environuts said they don't want rock salt on the roads.

That bucket looks like something you would use for sawdust. I don't think a bobcat skid steer has enough power to handle a bucket that large :laugh:

Isn't is supposed to start snowing tonight (tuesday). Let the smash up derby begin.

[Junior M]

Hey, Jlm.. LOoks like his snow bucket on the 320 is 1/8'' over the side of the trailer. Give him a ticket! lol
HOLY CRAP!!! That bucket is freakn enormous!! I am to empressed to give him a ticket! :laugh: I think I'd need a step ladder to get over the bucket just to get in the cab!

GR your just in denial that you cant be on such a powerful machine pushing snow! If someone put you in a T320 you wouldnt know what to do with all the power! :rolleyes: :laugh:

Bobcatuser-Can you even see the cutting edge on that bucket?

[Nel-Martin]

so you guys think that bucket on the 320 is big ??????




check this out !!!! http://www.martatch.com/Buckets.swf

[all ferris]

Ron, I can keep you busy at the Vancouver airport, if you want the work.

The T320 is going to be collecting windrows from the plow trucks and stacking the snow in the corners.

You need to get rid of the bucket and get one of these

http://www.snowmagazineonline.com/marketplace/product.asp?MarketplaceID=53&Product=1

I use one and they are great

[bobcat_ron]

Ron, I can keep you busy at the Vancouver airport, if you want the work.

The T320 is going to be collecting windrows from the plow trucks and stacking the snow in the corners.


Forget that, my snow plowing days are done, and people hate it when I wrote my name in the snow banks I left behind.

[Junior M]

Forget that, my snow plowing days are done, and people hate it when I wrote my name in the snow banks I left behind.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[bobcat_ron]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


But the joke was on them, it wasn't my hand writing. :laugh:

[Scag48]

Bring on the snow! Our cats are ready to roll tonight and I'll be headed up for my first shift. Super stoked.

I heard about the incident on Blackcomb yesterday with the gondola, that sucks terribly. Anyone know any more than what the news is saying? All I've heard is that a tower somehow fell apart and for some damn reason dropped a cabin right off the cable, that should NEVER happen considering how they're designed to latch onto the cable.

[Junior M]

But the joke was on them, it wasn't my hand writing. :laugh:
I figured that with you... :laugh: :laugh:

[Junior M]

Bring on the snow! Our cats are ready to roll tonight and I'll be headed up for my first shift. Super stoked.

I heard about the incident on Blackcomb yesterday with the gondola, that sucks terribly. Anyone know any more than what the news is saying? All I've heard is that a tower somehow fell apart and for some damn reason dropped a cabin right off the cable, that should NEVER happen considering how they're designed to latch onto the cable.
I havent heard of that, you got a link or something for the story?

[Scag48]

I havent heard of that, you got a link or something for the story?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/17/gondola-investigation.html

Just found this, they're saying ice damage is the culprit. Somehow water managed to penetrate the weld connecting the two tower pieces together. Once the water freezes and expands, you guessed it, it shears the weld. More info says that the cabins didn't actually come off the cable, more or less it was a large distance to the next tower so they just landed on the ground, at least from what I can tell by the story.

Huge bummer, but luckily nobody was killed or even seriously injured, sounds like all injuries were minor thankfully.

[Gravel Rat]

But the joke was on them, it wasn't my hand writing. :laugh:


Better hope its female hand writing :laugh:


Shoveled some snow by hand this-morning (rotten white crap).

[Junior M]

Better hope its female hand writing :laugh:


Shoveled some snow by hand this-morning (rotten white crap).
Oh, gosh, now we get to here complaints about the economy and snow, woohoo, I am glad snow is a once a year thing... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I forgot the smiley thing... sorry GR..

[bobcat_ron]

Once the snow lets up I'll get if the hell off our drive way, Kitty Cat style.

[CAT powered]

I think we'll need a video, Ron.

[bobcat_ron]

I think we'll need a video, Ron.

I will, don't sweat it.

[Junior M]

I think we'll need a video, Ron.
I was thinking the same thing, I always like a good incab video like dirtman seems to do so well..

[ksss]

You need to get rid of the bucket and get one of these

http://www.snowmagazineonline.com/marketplace/product.asp?MarketplaceID=53&Product=1

I use one and they are great

Now that is a high tech snow pusher.

[all ferris]

Now that is a high tech snow pusher.

You would not believe how nice they are. Damn near impossible to damage anything because everything breaks away. I plow 32 acres when is snows and the Arctic sectional plow has cut about 2 hours off my time compared to other box plows.

[ksss]

You would not believe how nice they are. Damn near impossible to damage anything because everything breaks away. I plow 32 acres when is snows and the Arctic sectional plow has cut about 2 hours off my time compared to other box plows.


I never realized they had pushers like that. What do they cost?

[Construct'O]

I never realized they had pushers like that. What do they cost?

Your to late to be pushing,your going into the blower busniess !!!!!!!!:):usflag:

[bobcatuser]

You need to get rid of the bucket and get one of these

http://www.snowmagazineonline.com/marketplace/product.asp?MarketplaceID=53&Product=1

I use one and they are great

I would have a pusher if it snowed more, some years we don't get any snow. Besides I could buy 4 buckets for the price of a pusher:confused:

[Gravel Rat]

For the amount of snow the lower corner of B.C. sees owning a plow of any kind will never pay for itself.

[bobcatuser]

My 2500HD pushing snow at YVR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O872aH4T04

The first pic is the airport crew clearing the runway, they run 4 plows followed by 2 blowers and 3 sweepers with 2 anti ice sprayers, all mounted on the same type of Oshkosh trucks in the picture. Very impressive to see them work.:cool2:

last pic is one of my warehouse contracts. The T230 made short work of it.

[bobcat_ron]

YVR's snow plow trucks put Abby's air strip to shame!

[bobcatuser]

For the amount of snow the lower corner of B.C. sees owning a plow of any kind will never pay for itself.

If you can do a 20 hour shift it will pay out, the rest goes in your pocket. It's the 20 hours that most guys can't or won't do to keep the contract.

[Gravel Rat]

Contractors with backhoes will go plow parking lots by the hour as for residential driveways etc its shovel by hand :laugh:

[bobcatuser]

After 7 days straight with 6 skid-steers, 3 plows truck, 1 rubber tire hoe, 1 dump truck, 1 Zaxis 200 working.:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

I need to buy a wheel loader soon. Finding operators was a nightmare to keep things together. Having a loader with a 10' - 12' pusher would work excellent.

My budget is 40K for a reliable machine, any input would be appreciated.:canadaflag:

[Lazer_Z]

After 7 days straight with 6 skid-steers, 3 plows truck, 1 rubber tire hoe, 1 dump truck, 1 Zaxis 200 working.:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

I need to buy a wheel loader soon. Finding operators was a nightmare to keep things together. Having a loader with a 10' - 12' pusher would work excellent.

My budget is 40K for a reliable machine, any input would be appreciated.:canadaflag: Shame you're not closer, I'd gladly help. Hey, maybe you could hire on GR? :laugh:

[murray83]

A 200 Hitachi? lol I didn't think it snowed that much in BC :laugh:

Within 2 weeks here we've been hit 3 times,last storm was 28cm's and more for Friday I really need to buy myself my own plow for my truck

[bobcatuser]

A 200 Hitachi? lol I didn't think it snowed that much in BC :laugh:

Within 2 weeks here we've been hit 3 times,last storm was 28cm's and more for Friday I really need to buy myself my own plow for my truck

The last storm like this was in 1996. It is rare to see snow like this near the coast but it can happen if the conditions are right.

[bobcatuser]

Some of the action shots.

[murray83]

From the looks of your sites a 8 or 10 foot pusher would do the trick unless your paid per hour then just use a snow bucket lol

[Gravel Rat]

I'am suprised there wasn't a riot at the Vancouver Airport with all the problems with canceled flights.

Hopefully this white crap goes away I think everybody has had enough.

[stuvecorp]

How big of an airport is that? Plowing with buckets is like eating soup with a fork.

[Construct'O]

By the looks of the jets in the background it must be good sized:confused::usflag:

[coopers]

Any other pics of the excavator?

[bobcatuser]

Not the best pics, it was late into the night.

Vancouver is the second busiest airport in Canada, over 17.5 million passengers on 275,000 flights per year according to the website.

[bobcat_ron]

YVR also set the record for most disgruntled customers when they shut down all the runways but 1, just before Christmas, and many people didn't get out for 2-3 days.

I also heard a rumour that some crazy bugger with a T320 Bobcat was doing donuts and figure 8's on one of the runways. :laugh:
I'm sure that's just a rumour though.

[P.Services]

haaa a toolcat on a airport thats funny. give me a d11 with rubber tracks and a 100' blade.

[Dirtman2007]

Ok I've got a question. Since i've never plowed snow before. when your scraping with a flat bucket does it scratch up the concrete or asphalt below the snow? you know like when your scraping dry dirt off a asphalt road it will leave all the white scrape marks.

just curious.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

ron let the cat out it needs to peeeeee

[bobcat_ron]

haaa a toolcat on a airport thats funny. give me a d11 with rubber tracks and a 100' blade.

Desperation takes on many forms when the snow starts flying, I was asked to clean our church's parking lot after they paid someone with a Bobcat T140 to do it, his tiny 60" bucket was no match against my mega 80" bucket, but I declined, I will not finish some one's work they were paid for in advance.

[bobcat_ron]

Ok I've got a question. Since i've never plowed snow before. when your scraping with a flat bucket does it scratch up the concrete or asphalt below the snow? you know like when your scraping dry dirt off a asphalt road it will leave all the white scrape marks.

just curious.

No scratches, the ice sticks real bad and that is a bugger to get off.

[bobcatuser]

Desperation takes on many forms when the snow starts flying.

That's why i'm looking for a wheel loader, A Cat 980 should work fine.:weightlifter:

[stuvecorp]

Looks like in that one picture there isn't a cab on these machines, insert shivering smiley. That would be wild to plow at an airport. What do they do for ice control?

[CAT powered]

Lucky us. We're looking at another 4-6" tomorrow morning.

The General Mess of Crap mason dump is finally done. I had to bring it in to the shop. They decided to replace the fuel pump and it seems to be working decently now.

When I brought it in I had to tow it in with my 6.0 Ford. As we were pushing it into the service bay the mechanic asked me if it was carbeurated or injected. I told him it had a carb. He looks at the other mechanic who was helping to push it and says "This is gonna be f*ckin easy!"

So the snow is supposed to start at 4am and I can't go pick up the truck til 7 when the shop opens up.

Time to replace this old POS GMC with a nice 7.3 Ford! :weightlifter:

[bobcatuser]

Looks like in that one picture there isn't a cab on these machines, insert shivering smiley. That would be wild to plow at an airport. What do they do for ice control?

Some of the rental machines don't have doors, they don't last long the rental fleet.:hammerhead:

We use granular Urea 46-0-0 for ice control.

[stuvecorp]

I would like to set up a 821 with the biggest Machinablity plow they would put on it and a monster snowblower.

Do you stage the snow and haul it away?

[bobcatuser]

I would like to set up a 821 with the biggest Machinablity plow they would put on it and a monster snowblower.

Do you stage the snow and haul it away?

The main reason behind hauling the snow away is because it melts then freezes at night creating black ice everywhere.

[all ferris]

I would have a pusher if it snowed more, some years we don't get any snow. Besides I could buy 4 buckets for the price of a pusher:confused:

1 pusher could do the work of 3 buckets. Do the math on that.

I think if you tried one you would wonder why you ever used a bucket.

[bobcat_ron]

1 pusher could do the work of 3 buckets. Do the math on that.

I think if you tried one you would wonder why you ever used a bucket.

A bucket like he uses (over 8 feet wide) will give you better traction when it's loaded, just lift it up a bit and roll the bucket forward and you get more traction on the front, a pusher blade is useless, lift it up and you loose snow.

[ksss]

A bucket like he uses (over 8 feet wide) will give you better traction when it's loaded, just lift it up a bit and roll the bucket forward and you get more traction on the front, a pusher blade is useless, lift it up and you loose snow.


There is some truth to that, I have a massive FFC snow pusher. I when pushing through deep snow its easy to loose traction. I am chained up on all 4s and traction is still an issue. Its easy to burn the chains up if your not carefull. I think I may sell the snow pusher and get an oversized bucket. The snow pusher is fast in the right conditions and you can move an real amount of snow. They do have their drawbacks.

http://www.ffcattachments.com/products_details.asp?Product_Id=262#files

[all ferris]

A bucket like he uses (over 8 feet wide) will give you better traction when it's loaded, just lift it up a bit and roll the bucket forward and you get more traction on the front, a pusher blade is useless, lift it up and you loose snow.

Ron, I've have used a snow bucket and have been using a pusher for the last 5 years. The pusher will move at least twice the amount of snow as a snow bucket. I have a T200 and yes, sometimes traction can be an issue. However, I think with a T320 he could use a 12' pusher. The arctic sectional plow is very productive, leaves a clean scrape, and minimizes damage. They are great. Check out this link from a guy over on plow site: http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x277/JDDave/?action=view&current=9fc6fe47.pbr

[DUSTYCEDAR]

That sectional plow is the ticket

[stuvecorp]

I like plows better than pushers but it depends on how you are plowing. We used this tractor with a 8611 Blizzard and it was sweet, very productive, could throw down some salt or sand, didn't use alot of fuel and operators liked it. The only complaint I had with it was you couldn't stack with it, had to follow with the loader but it made us some bank while we used it. We got it on a winter rental very reasonable and if I could have found just a little bit of brushhoging I would have bought it.

[Gravel Rat]

You look at a plow on a plow truck its designed to roll the snow if it had a straight blade you could have all the power in the world your going to stop and spin wheels.

With our wet and heavy snow on the coast it doesn't plow very well. Get the momentum going and push like h*ll.

[Construct'O]

There is some truth to that, I have a massive FFC snow pusher. I when pushing through deep snow its easy to loose traction. I am chained up on all 4s and traction is still an issue. Its easy to burn the chains up if your not carefull. I think I may sell the snow pusher and get an oversized bucket. The snow pusher is fast in the right conditions and you can move an real amount of snow. They do have their drawbacks.

http://www.ffcattachments.com/products_details.asp?Product_Id=262#files

Too big a BITE :)!!!!!!!!!! Just because you have a 4 to 24 ft. pusher.You don't have to try to push the whole width everytime,just because it is that wide.

Heavy wet snow judge the distance your going then test what width that takes the least amount of time and troubles.

If wet and heavy split the width of the blade to half after getting the first pass in.

Your not getting full uses i realize,but the time spent fighting by spinning and digging ruts isn't speeding things up either.

Dry fluff snow give it he!! Just need to make adjustment.Up hill pushing(wrong),push down hill evey time you get a chance if there is a place to pile in that direction.

Take advantage of the width when possible,cut back when the conditons are unfavorable.Good luck

[ksss]

Too big a BITE :)!!!!!!!!!! Just because you have a 4 to 24 ft. pusher.You don't have to try to push the whole width everytime,just because it is that wide.

Heavy wet snow judge the distance your going then test what width that takes the least amount of time and troubles.

If wet and heavy split the width of the blade to half after getting the first pass in.

Your not getting full uses i realize,but the time spent fighting by spinning and digging ruts isn't speeding things up either.

Dry fluff snow give it he!! Just need to make adjustment.Up hill pushing(wrong),push down hill evey time you get a chance if there is a place to pile in that direction.

Take advantage of the width when possible,cut back when the conditons are unfavorable.Good luck

The problem is usually with the first pass. The other issue is turning. You can work with it.

[bobcatuser]

I got called out last night to fix a broken water main, now it's snowing again!!! Another week of this weather and I won't have to work again in till August.:drinkup:

[bobcat_ron]

I have to dig out the driveway and my truck and trailer, I have work next week, banging out concrete with a rental hammer! WHOOP-EEEE!!!!

[treadlite]

Looking at the pics of the snow removal equipment at vancouver airport.... what a joke!!! they need to come out of the 1960's and start acting like a real international airport!! Google VAMMAS SNOW PLOW and see what real snow removal equipment looks like. They articulate in two places, have a plow, broom and blower all on one unit. In calgary 5 of them in a train can completely clear a runway in one pass with a huge oshkosh truck mounted blower taking up the rear andfiring the windrow that the vammas's made onto the grass.....imagine if the same thing happens next year for the olympics.... :hammerhead:

[Gravel Rat]

I heard Abbotsford got hit hard with the snow again :laugh:

Everybody here is sick of this white crap especially when you can't drive on it because its frozen solid and you need ice skates.

Not good for the contractors because its stopping any of the work that is happening. Most construction sites are not even accessable even a 4x4 with chains would have troubles.

The public side roads (paved) are 4x4 access only or a front wheeldrive car. With my F-450 grossing 12,500lbs its not enough weight to give the rear tires enough traction.

The plow trucks won't put any salt on the road because the drivers are worried if they loose the weight in the truck they will get stuck.

[bobcat_ron]

Looking at the pics of the snow removal equipment at vancouver airport.... what a joke!!! they need to come out of the 1960's and start acting like a real international airport!! Google VAMMAS SNOW PLOW and see what real snow removal equipment looks like. They articulate in two places, have a plow, broom and blower all on one unit. In calgary 5 of them in a train can completely clear a runway in one pass with a huge oshkosh truck mounted blower taking up the rear andfiring the windrow that the vammas's made onto the grass.....imagine if the same thing happens next year for the olympics.... :hammerhead:

The big problem is that you can't let the snow pile too high off the run ways, those jet engines create some major suction, and they don't want the wing tips getting near anything.

[Gravel Rat]

Here in B.C. we don't see winters this bad every year. For a airport to invest in millions of dollars worth of equipment to be used what 2-3 weeks a year.

This year is becoming like it was back in 96 so its not something we get every year.

The snow in Alberta is drier than it is here or even in Richmond where the airport is.

[treadlite]

that's still no excuse.... with the "airport improvement fees" that all travellers get raped on you'd think that they'd be better prepared..... they spend millions on crash trucks in case an airplane thunders in but they can't spend on snow removal equipment??? the Vammas has brooms and blowers on them as well for clearing water off the runways so they're not just for one use... Its the typical BC attitude of "we're special, the rules and common sense don't apply, don't worry be happy and pay your excessive BC taxes"...

[bobcatuser]

that's still no excuse.... with the "airport improvement fees" that all travellers get raped on you'd think that they'd be better prepared..... they spend millions on crash trucks in case an airplane thunders in but they can't spend on snow removal equipment??? the Vammas has brooms and blowers on them as well for clearing water off the runways so they're not just for one use... Its the typical BC attitude of "we're special, the rules and common sense don't apply, don't worry be happy and pay your excessive BC taxes"...

The snow equipment at the airport is adequate. It's the airlines that can't de-ice the aircraft, they were running out of de-icing fluid.:sleeping:

I'm sure the Vammas will be on order for the winter Olympics. Welcome to Beautiful British Columbia, will that be cash,credit or debit.:laugh::canadaflag:

[bobcatuser]

Some how I have a feeling drainage work will become very popular next week, if the jetstream brings the pineapple express this way.:dancing:

[ksss]

It hit here. mid 30's low 40's for a couple three days. Back below zero now, but we lost a good bit of snow.

[Shadetree Ltd]

*trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag*
I don't know about you but I have had enough for a while.

[RockSet N' Grade]

we just got 6" here on the valley floor.....storms backed up to hit us for this entire week. somebody is making money pushin' it.....

[FinerCutslawnCare]

2 weeks ago it snowed everyday and I got a total of 16 hours of sleep the whole week. I was so grumpy! Ever since then we haven't had a flake of snow...

[ksss]

2 weeks ago it snowed everyday and I got a total of 16 hours of sleep the whole week. I was so grumpy! Ever since then we haven't had a flake of snow...

Ditto, I ordered an 85" high flow snow blower. The closer in comes to getting here the drier it gets.

[bobcat_ron]

*trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag*
I don't know about you but I have had enough for a while.


Same here, but now I get my feet wet walking through the slush.

I miss Summer. :cry: