Your perfect set up..

[Junior M]

Ok, what would be your perfect set, whether it be a dump truck, 450 ford with whatever trailer and a piece of equipment to go on that trailer with whatever attachments or whatever you would like.

Mine would have to be a red single axle kenworth dump with a diamond plate L-box behind the cab with a custom 75 gallon transfer tank ahead of that with underbody boxes and a black contractor dump body so I can put attachments in the bed. with a twenty ton Towmaster deckover long enough for a T190 or a new 297C CAT both fully loaded with one tooth combo, one GP with no teeth, grapple, and a flail mower or bush hog and a 335 fully loaded with a radio and 6way blade with all Werk brau buckets, 1 12in, 1 24in, and 2 36in one with twin tiger teeth and one clean up.

[CAT powered]

2006 Kenworth W900 (pre-emissions nonsense) with a 50 ton Rogers RGN with a dozen 5/8" grade 100 20' chains and a half dozen 3/8" 20' grade 100 chains. With a brand new CAT D8 dozer.

[mrusk]

In a perfect world i'd be a millionaire and sure as hell wouldn't own any iron!

[Junior M]

In a perfect world i'd be a millionaire and sure as hell wouldn't own any iron!
Hell, if I was a millionaire, I would own so much equipment; dozers, trackhoes, backhoes, tractors,

[talus]

For what I do right now, I'd have to say a 2001 International 4800 4x4 double frame w/tag. Marmon Herrington running gear w/ Alison auto trans. 14 ft box.Super singles w/ aluminum wheels all around. 10 ton tilt trailer. Already have the sr 80. Would like a kx 161,tb 153 or tb 180. This would also coincide with an underground fault at the local strip club and getting more work from one of there employees for and out door kitchen.:clapping:

[BIGBEN2004]

I would like a tri axle with a flat bed and dove tail with ramps so I could haul a skid loader and mini on one truck with out having to deal with a trailer all the time on all the tight jobs I get witch seem to be all the time.

[bobcat_ron]

Almost everything I own is paid for, so that's the perfect set up.

[Construct'O]

Hell, if I was a millionaire, I would own so much equipment; dozers, trackhoes, backhoes, tractors,

Price of equipment you would be broke!!!!! before you got your first machine.

One new D10 dozer would leave you with no money.Sorry ! a million just isn't what it is cracked up to be in todays world:cry::usflag:

[ksss]

I would like a 721C wheel loader, and a really good commercial estimator. I can take the rest of it from there.

[stuvecorp]

Ok, what would be your perfect set, whether it be a dump truck, 450 ford with whatever trailer and a piece of equipment to go on that trailer with whatever attachments or whatever you would like.

Mine would have to be a red single axle kenworth dump with a diamond plate L-box behind the cab with a custom 75 gallon transfer tank ahead of that with underbody boxes and a black contractor dump body so I can put attachments in the bed. with a twenty ton Towmaster deckover long enough for a T190 or a new 297C CAT both fully loaded with one tooth combo, one GP with no teeth, grapple, and a flail mower or bush hog and a 335 fully loaded with a radio and 6way blade with all Werk brau buckets, 1 12in, 1 24in, and 2 36in one with twin tiger teeth and one clean up.

JR, you can get all that out of my fleet :cool2:(close enough, right?) You may have to adjust what brands but it would be cheaper and then you would be in the PowerTan Group.:dancing::weightlifter:

[Junior M]

JR, you can get all that out of my fleet :cool2:(close enough, right?) You may have to adjust what brands but it would be cheaper and then you would be in the PowerTan Group.:dancing::weightlifter:
Nope, I'll run all CAT first, and your Kobelco is a lil bigger than a 335, although, I wouldnt mind a series 3 420..:cool2:

[Junior M]

Price of equipment you would be broke!!!!! before you got your first machine.

One new D10 dozer would leave you with no money.Sorry ! a million just isn't what it is cracked up to be in todays world:cry::usflag:
a D10? I didnt mean anything that big, a D5 LGP hi track at the biggest, and I would have to have a 330D!

[stuvecorp]

Is this a 'what if..' exercise?

[Construct'O]

a D10? I didnt mean anything that big, a D5 LGP hi track at the biggest, and I would have to have a 330D!

Your worst then a women!!!!!!!!!! changing your mind :laugh:

You went from a Bobcat T190 and a 335 to a D5 and 330D in only two post;):usflag:

[Junior M]

Your worst then a women!!!!!!!!!! changing your mind :laugh:

You went from a Bobcat T190 and a 335 to a D5 and 330D in only two post;):usflag:
If I had a million dollars to spend I would have a D5 and 330 to have, but for my real business I wouldnt want anything that big in real life I want a T190 and 335..

Stuvecorp, remember you saying you hated winter and were bored? Well, this is a product of me being bored and hating winter with nothing to really do..

[P.Services]

i have so much stuff i want its insane.

to start i would take a new 80d with 3 buckets. but i cant affford that so a pc78-6 will have to work.

[stuvecorp]

Okay, I'll play JR. Not everything on my wish list is new but scavenged from whats out there now.

357 Pete quad with the split side box, 25 ton Towmaster tilt pulling a 465 w/VTS and my 135 Kobelco. 550 contractors dump pulling a 440 w/VTS or the mini x(Kobelco 50 or Tak 153). Would like the skids to be series 3. A bunch of attachments. As I would grow the second quad and 621 or 721 then a 1150 lgp. Throw a sand screener in there also.

[Gravel Rat]

If I had a million dollars I don't think I would be buying equipment. I would buy myself some acreage put a manufactured home on it and put the rest in the bank and try to retire :drinkup:

No point in buying iron if there is no work for it :cry:

Have some some acreage so a person can build a shop so a person can build stuff.

[Junior M]

Does anyone actually have plans to get a set up like you would like? We all know Picasso, but he cant decide on anything. :laugh:

I dont really have plans, for now I am just trying to get a truck and get through high school and go full time when I graduate, Thats as far as I've got for now..

[P.Services]

i have to find the right machine first at the right price. being over eager to jump into a machine is when you get burned. now id a hard time to just bit the bullet on a 100 grand purchase. i will have a hook lift and excavator for one side of the biz and new f-350's,a cab over and scags and a ditchwitch zahn in the spring.

[P.Services]

junior just so you know i had found the truck i wanted. it was a f-650 roll off extended cab at a awsome price!!! im still upset that i didnt act faster and it sold. things happen for a reason and i know why i didnt get that truck. i may HAVE to make a much larger purchase very soon to keep a roof over my head.

[stuvecorp]

I am trying to work my fleet that way but it takes time. I want to be flexible to do resi work and small commercial and not have to much stuff. My goal would be to have this equipment, get some land that I could start building a cranberry marsh for my self and still do this till I can.

[Junior M]

junior just so you know i had found the truck i wanted. it was a f-650 roll off extended cab at a awsome price!!! im still upset that i didnt act faster and it sold. things happen for a reason and i know why i didnt get that truck. i may HAVE to make a much larger purchase very soon to keep a roof over my head.
Yeah, didnt you post a thread about missing it in the Trucks and Trailers forum?

[P.Services]

yes shhhh im still heart broke.

i dont think i want a roll off anyways, i didnt even relize you cant pull a trailer with them because the tongue hangs off to far so thats why im looking for a rolloff now.

[ksss]

Okay, I'll play JR. Not everything on my wish list is new but scavenged from whats out there now.

357 Pete quad with the split side box, 25 ton Towmaster tilt pulling a 465 w/VTS and my 135 Kobelco. 550 contractors dump pulling a 440 w/VTS or the mini x(Kobelco 50 or Tak 153). Would like the skids to be series 3. A bunch of attachments. As I would grow the second quad and 621 or 721 then a 1150 lgp. Throw a sand screener in there also.


The screener reminded me of a big dream I have had.

I would like to get into the concrete crushing business here. No one does it. They are starting to charge dump fees on concrete. Especially when Diesel was high, I reall felt like money could be made doing it. I would want a tracked unit. It would take about 400K to get up and going with it. I think it would go. Good thing I don't have 400 large or I might have tried it.

[stuvecorp]

The screener reminded me of a big dream I have had.

I would like to get into the concrete crushing business here. No one does it. They are starting to charge dump fees on concrete. Especially when Diesel was high, I reall felt like money could be made doing it. I would want a tracked unit. It would take about 400K to get up and going with it. I think it would go. Good thing I don't have 400 large or I might have tried it.

I know I am some what crakers but one of my desires is to sit on the grizzly of a tracked screener or crusher and drive it down the road. I know it's stupid but would be funny.

I think the money to be made is in materials, base, rock, or topsoil.

Heading in to next season my main goals and I think they are reachable is to get the big dump, 465 w/VTS and trailer to move the Kobelco. The other stuff will come but this gets me able to do more.

[P.Services]

maybe you should look to get a crusher but maybe not a top of the line one like that. a guy down from me had a ex-gov jaw crusher (cedar-rapids) and sold it for under 20k. it was lightly used. then find a nice used trommel and your ready to rock and roll.

[stuvecorp]

One thing I have heard and experienced at the one pit in town is the regulations with crushing. It may be something to hire out the crushing part. Have you ever looked at those concrete densifiers to size concrete down so it is easier to process? They go on an excavator and would be very stealthy and lower cost to start with.

[Gravel Rat]

If you are going to crush material you need both a jaw and a cone because a jaw can't produce finished material. You could go with a set of rolls which the material is dropped into a drum and the material is crushed bettween rollers. A cone make the nicest material tho you can crush 3/4 clear.

You need 4 items to produce good gravel the first is a grizzly feeder that feeds a jaw crusher which knocks the material down to 6 inch minus that finally goes into a cone then feeds a screener if you want to make 3/4 clear or any clear material.

You could get away with just a cone crusher if you screen out the material so it is 6 inch minus.

You could have a grizzly feeder with a grizzly bars that only allow a 4 inch rock fall through.

Rock crushing or any kind of crushing is expensive.

[ksss]

Actually if your just crushing down to an inch type material you don't need a cone. You would likely need a pulverizer on an excavator on site with the crusher. Although I spoke with several OEMs at ConExpo and most of those machines can take a Jersey barrier size piece of concrete. The company I was most impressed with was this one.

http://www.fintec.com/fintec/productOnProdID.aspx?ID=155

I spoke with a rep from Seattle who owned several of these machines and became a part time salesman for them. The guy was a wealth of knowledge about the business.

If you can get the material down to 1" that is small enough for compactable fill. You could grind it smaller but with just the jaws you can get it small enough to compact without the added cost of running it through a cone. There is good money it, but takes money to get into it. These crushers were around 300K as I recall which was a decent price. However you need a good lowboy to transport it and some supporting equipment.

[Gravel Rat]

If all your after is 1 to 2 inch minus a jaw will probably be good enough you could have a screener if you wanted to produce something cleaner.

There is a couple contractors that have tracked crushers they work okay but they are definatly not as good as a stationary unit. The tracked units are heavy I don't know if you guys could legally haul them in the USA without permits.

[ksss]

If all your after is 1 to 2 inch minus a jaw will probably be good enough you could have a screener if you wanted to produce something cleaner.

There is a couple contractors that have tracked crushers they work okay but they are definatly not as good as a stationary unit. The tracked units are heavy I don't know if you guys could legally haul them in the USA without permits.

The weight is an issue. The 1107 could be hauled in Idaho which allows us only to 108K. Our neighbors can go to 129K. The nice thing about the tracks is you can take it to the demo site. That is critical to making it go here and a big selling point. Show up on site with crusher and in 15 min. (so I am told) your crushing material.

If you wanted to crush it down to 3/4 you could sub that out or buy a cone. Trying to stay realistic with the numbers I would just use the jaw.

[Even Cut Lawn Care]

Almost everything I own is paid for, so that's the perfect set up.

Ditto! Mine too.

[Gravel Rat]

Here crushing concrete isn't a big thing but crushing asphalt can be and also private crushing for contractors.

I know the tracked crushers are heavy because the one contractor that has two of them a jaw and I think the other is a impact.

In B.C. max gvw is 140,000lbs so hauling them isn't a problem. I don't know what you could strip off of a tracked crusher to get the weight down and not be a royal in the rectus.

If there isn't anybody in the crushing business in your area it might be a good business to get into.

Crushers can be expensive beasts especially if you are crushing hard rock. The other problem is over feeding them then they want to jam up.

The only thing I don't like about the Finlay I seen was the rotten Duetz engine why they didn't put a Cat or Cummins power on it. The impact crusher has a Cat engine.

If there is a demand for the crushing work start searching for a used crusher.

[kreft]

Heres my dream.

(20) Ford f-350's
(6) Mack fuel & lube trucks
(5) service trucks
(7) Mack lowboys
(2) Mack hydro seeders
(1) Mack stone slinger
(2) water trucks
(30) Mack dumptrucks

(3) Cat 297C
(2) Cat 262C
(3) Cat 305C CR
(3) Cat 420E
(3) Cat IT14G
(3) Cat 320C
(2) Gradall
(2) Deere 450 (excavator not dozer)
(3) Deere 254j
(3) Cat D5G LGP
(3) Cat D6N LGP
(2) Cat D9T
(4) Cat 953D
(2) Cat 140H
(5) Cat 637G
(4) Cat 730


Alot of shovels!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But really,

Cat 297C
Cat 308C CR
Cat D4 LGP
Cat 953C

(2) Chevy 2500 HD with trailers
(1) Mack dumptruck with Eager Beaver trailer

[ksss]

Heres my dream.

(20) Ford f-350's
(6) Mack fuel & lube trucks
(5) service trucks
(7) Mack lowboys
(2) Mack hydro seeders
(1) Mack stone slinger
(2) water trucks
(30) Mack dumptrucks

(3) Cat 297C
(2) Cat 262C
(3) Cat 305C CR
(3) Cat 420E
(3) Cat IT14G
(3) Cat 320C
(2) Gradall
(2) Deere 450 (excavator not dozer)
(3) Deere 254j
(3) Cat D5G LGP
(3) Cat D6N LGP
(2) Cat D9T
(4) Cat 953D
(2) Cat 140H
(5) Cat 637G
(4) Cat 730


Alot of shovels!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But really,

Cat 297C
Cat 308C CR
Cat D4 LGP
Cat 953C

(2) Chevy 2500 HD with trailers
(1) Mack dumptruck with Eager Beaver trailer

Wow that is some dream!

[Junior M]

Heres my dream.

(20) Ford f-350's
(6) Mack fuel & lube trucks
(5) service trucks
(7) Mack lowboys
(2) Mack hydro seeders
(1) Mack stone slinger
(2) water trucks
(30) Mack dumptrucks

(3) Cat 297C
(2) Cat 262C
(3) Cat 305C CR
(3) Cat 420E
(3) Cat IT14G
(3) Cat 320C
(2) Gradall
(2) Deere 450 (excavator not dozer)
(3) Deere 254j
(3) Cat D5G LGP
(3) Cat D6N LGP
(2) Cat D9T
(4) Cat 953D
(2) Cat 140H
(5) Cat 637G
(4) Cat 730


Alot of shovels!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But really,

Cat 297C
Cat 308C CR
Cat D4 LGP
Cat 953C

(2) Chevy 2500 HD with trailers
(1) Mack dumptruck with Eager Beaver trailer
Holy crap!! 20?? Jeez, thats to big for me! Theres a guy here that started out like me and my dad and he got into doing dumpster services and he was up to over 100 employees when the economy was at its high point..

[Junior M]

In my dream business, I would have the Kenworth set up I mentioned earlier with 3 dodge 3500 Cummins two flat beds, one utility bed, each with a 10ton Cornpro gooseneck Gooseneck with 20 foot decks, The kenworth would have its own 341, two of the dodge's would have 335's and one with a 331, all the mini's fully loaded, I would have one S185, 1 T190, and 1 A300, all fully loaded. And then throw in a D3LGP, and a 320D and a mack and Lowboy...

[CAT powered]

Junior you're saying anything over a D5 is too big, but you want a CAT 330D. I think you're a little confused.

[Junior M]

Junior you're saying anything over a D5 is too big, but you want a CAT 330D. I think you're a little confused.
I know, I know, I just think a 330 looks awesome, and no I dont want one in real life if I had a million dollars I would have one, but for the real business no way I would ever own anything that big..

[kreft]

Just think how big that pool would be!!!!

[KRtraxx]

I REALLY like this thread guys..My order book is open.. KR Equipment 715-290-0189 lollllllllllllllll :laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a year from now it will get better...

[Junior M]

I REALLY like this thread guys..My order book is open.. KR Equipment 715-290-0189 lollllllllllllllll :laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe a year from now it will get better...
Do I have to pay for anything, if I order it? :rolleyes: If not I'll take everything I mentioned earlier! :laugh:

[KRtraxx]

We could try for the one out of ten rule... Take your pick wisely...lolllllllll

[RockSet N' Grade]

I have been looking at portable crushers..........not the monsters ksss is looking at but small residential type units....my other purchase for this winter will probably be a 900 KW with ar400 bed tri-axle 2001 or earlier........been on the prowl for that one on a daily basis.

[TandM]

how about my future business... This is all of the equipment my father owns. at the time we employ 35 men and have been as big as 80 men until times got hard. I only have a few more years and I step up to project manager!

here we go!

3 chevy 1500's
1 ford f 150
1 ford f 250
1 ford f 450
2 dodge 3500
3 gmc 2500's
1 dodge 1500
1 dodge w 200
1 nissan titan
1 toyota tundra

1 mack ch613 tractor
1 homemade 50 ton lowboy
2 mack granite series tandem dump
2 mack rd series tandem dump
1 aluminum dump trailer

most all cat equipment
2 cat 330 d's
1 cat 320 c
1 cat 315 c
1 cat d4 dozer
1 cat d5 lgp dozer
1 cat d6 dozer
2 cat 12h motor graders
1 cat 928 wheel loader
2 cat 930 wheel loaders
1 cat roller for compaction
3 cat 420d rubber tired backhoes
1 cat 430d rubber tired backhoe
1 fiatallis fr 11 wheel loader best piece of equipment we own its a 1985 and has over 10000 hours on it the hour meter quit at 10000 and refuses to break down
1 fiatallis 65e motor grader
1 noram 65e same thing as fiat except it has a cummins
1 dynapac roller for compaction
1 bobcat 420 excavator most versatile piece of equipment ever great purchase!
2 kurber curb machines way better then any of that power curber of go maco crap.
1 leeboy 8510 paver
2 leeboy asphalt rollers
1 leeboy rubber tired traffic roller
1 leeboy tack wagon
about 10 dual axle open trailers and 4 enclosed all are all pro or down 2 earth

and last but not least a 6 acre piece of land with a 150x 300 shop to house the office and shop soon to be putting another one of the same size up for mechanics.

[Junior M]

And you cut grass, with all that equipment around? Pssh, I'd be running equipment, not cuttin grass!

[Dirtman2007]

I think I've already got the perfect setup. just need more jobs for that perfect set up!


But If I could choose what I could have it would be

1 Volvo 210CL Excavator with hydro thumb, Q/C
1 volvo 290CL Excavator with hydro thumb, Q/C

My komatsu D39 dozer

1 Deere 700J dozer 6 way blade:weightlifter:

1 Tak 145 mini ex

1 Tak TL250 Skid with a 4in1 bucket, 1 yard bucket, grapple, forks.

1 Off road haul truck, cat 740.

2 ford 350's


But I'll make due with what I got fer now

[TandM]

I do both actually on weekends ill spend 20 hours on the 330d laying pipe we have a 800 acre sub division we are working on right now doing all the underground utilities and Ive got hundreds of hours on the excavators just on that one job. and I love cutting grass! its kind of a hobby next to diesels and heavy equipment its relaxing just like clearing land your all by your self in the middle of the woods with no one to bother you! I also love to pave most people hate it but I love doing it its a major art form and you can make a lot of money. but I must say my fav thing to run is that bobcat 420 that thing is sweet!

Oh forgot to mention 3 f 800 water trucks

[stuvecorp]

Maybe the sister thread to this will be 'how to achieve success'. I'll take notes if someone wants to start...:)

[Construct'O]

I do both actually on weekends ill spend 20 hours on the 330d laying pipe we have a 800 acre sub division we are working on right now doing all the underground utilities and Ive got hundreds of hours on the excavators just on that one job. and I love cutting grass! its kind of a hobby next to diesels and heavy equipment its relaxing just like clearing land your all by your self in the middle of the woods with no one to bother you! I also love to pave most people hate it but I love doing it its a major art form and you can make a lot of money. but I must say my fav thing to run is that bobcat 420 that thing is sweet!

Oh forgot to mention 3 f 800 water trucks

I know this is the internet:) So it says age 15,plus hundred of hours running 330D excavator on the one job and love grass:confused::usflag:

[Junior M]

I know this is the internet:) So it says age 15,plus hundred of hours running 330D excavator on the one job and love grass:confused::usflag:
I've been running a mini ex since I was 6, no way I have over 150 hours at the most. I probably only have 50 hours of actual operating, If I had a 330 at my disposal no way I would be cutting grass..

[kreft]

^^^^^^ good points

[bobcat_ron]

My dream set up (provided it's all paid for) is a Cat 299C XPS, Takeuchi TL220 (the little guy for the small work) a 6 ton mini (not sure of the brand, all are just as good, EXCEPT BOBCAT) a 3 ton mini, a Hitachi ZX75US-4 with a roto tilt and brush head, a "mini" lowbed or step deck and a small Pete tractor with an Auto shift.

[P.Services]

ron thats a nice "real world" setup, i like it. i would also want a little tandem axle lead 1/4 round for the peti to pull.

[NateV]

Ok heres what id like to have..We already have most of it though.

F-800 Single axle dump (have)
Eager Beaver 20ton trailer (have)
14K lbs trailer for mini (have)
Case 580SM (have)
Kobelco 50 mini (have)
Case skid (have)
Cat trackloader (have)

Like to get
Pete 335 tandem dump
Case CX130 or 135 or same machine in Kobelco.

[Junior M]

ron thats a nice "real world" setup, i like it. i would also want a little tandem axle lead 1/4 round for the peti to pull.
Ah, come on, my dream business was "real world" maybe not as many trucks, and so was my dream set up in my first post! Now Kreft's, that would be a feat!

[NateV]

how about my future business... This is all of the equipment my father owns. at the time we employ 35 men and have been as big as 80 men until times got hard. I only have a few more years and I step up to project manager!
.

Ok so your 15 and plan on being project manager in just a few yrs??

Iv been around this business my whole life too but theres no way my old man would have me as project manager if i was in your shoes. heck i wouldnt even want all that responsiblity at a young age and im only 19 now myself. Id be happy just being an operator.

[Junior M]

Ok so your 15 and plan on being project manager in just a few yrs??

Iv been around this business my whole life too but theres no way my old man would have me as project manager if i was in your shoes. heck i wouldnt even want all that responsiblity at a young age and im only 19 now myself. Id be happy just being an operator.
If my dad had that big of a business, I'd have to start at the dead freakn bottom, as a ditch bitc#.. I am not usually now because he wants me to get the expierence, but most times you can guess where I am at........... in the ditch

[NateV]

I kinda want to call BS on this one but im not sure, i doubt his old man would put him in charge running 35+guys...Id be at the bottom aswell. Sure if my dads business was that big id be at the bottom too but im sure id problaby get to equipment a little faster then others but would still start in the ditch.

[bobcat_ron]

ron thats a nice "real world" setup, i like it. i would also want a little tandem axle lead 1/4 round for the peti to pull.

I also forgot the end dump trailer for the Pete to pull around and haul gravel.

[CAT powered]

Ron why don't you step up to the plate and have that restriction pulled so you can drive real trucks?

[bobcat_ron]

Ron why don't you step up to the plate and have that restriction pulled so you can drive real trucks?

Nothing wrong with Autoshifts, they make the truck's resale value higher because you don't have to worry about what shape the gears and clutch are in when you buy used and the full auto mode saves fuel better than a stick can, it's safer and quicker up/down shifting up/down hills and it makes the first time drivers more at ease.
Just wait a few more years, there are already highway trucks that have an Autoshift "type" transmission, but still with a stick, now on the roads. I saw one on TV last month, just put the truck in the gear you want and go, but the meshing and engine RPM's are all done automatically now, you just have the control of the gears.

[Junior M]

I kinda want to call BS on this one but im not sure, i doubt his old man would put him in charge running 35+guys...Id be at the bottom aswell. Sure if my dads business was that big id be at the bottom too but im sure id problaby get to equipment a little faster then others but would still start in the ditch.
Oh, yeah I'd definetly move up faster, but I'd still have to start at the bottom honestly. I know guys that got sent straight to the top out of college and he has no respect for the people in the hole or even the operator, he doesnt have any respect for people below him that are working there way up..

[SinjonAssociates]

MD 530 http://www.minihelicopter.net/MD530f/index.htm

and this suit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2McKWXZ5VoU&feature=related
or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttz5oPpF1Js&feature=related

The MD would be a dream to work in:usflag:

[mrusk]

Why are you busting on that kid who will be project manager in a couple years? He might manage 10 people. He never said they run 35 people on a job site. Maybe he has excellent management skills? You dont need 10k hours in a excavator or a ditch to run a job site.

Give the kid a break. Maybe he likes to cut grass on the weekends because thats 'his' business.


Or maybe he is FOS.

[Junior M]

You dont need 10k hours in a excavator or a ditch to run a job site.

Give the kid a break. Maybe he likes to cut grass on the weekends because thats 'his' business.

We never said there was anything wrong with him cutting grass, I just said I wouldnt be if I had all that equipment to play with. And no one for dam sure said you needed thousands of hours, it just helps imo, isnt that what these posts are? the poster sharing his/her opinion? nobody is puttin him down, just some of it is hard to believe..

[NateV]

just some of it is hard to believe..

Thats all im saying too.

[mrusk]

I dont think its all that hard to belive. I mean there are alot of large excavating companies out there. I don't think its far fetch that one of those companies owners have a son who is 15 who likes lawnsite.

[Junior M]

I dont think its all that hard to belive. I mean there are alot of large excavating companies out there. I don't think its far fetch that one of those companies owners have a son who is 15 who likes lawnsite.
I never said anything against him liking lawn site, just said I wouldnt be cutting grass if my dad had all that equipment. And him taking over at 18, with having hundreds of hours on a 330 is kinda hard to believe. imo..

[mrusk]

I never said anything against him liking lawn site, just said I wouldnt be cutting grass if my dad had all that equipment. And him taking over at 18, with having hundreds of hours on a 330 is kinda hard to believe. imo..


My dad doesnt have schit and I DONT want to cut grass!

[Junior M]

My dad doesnt have schit and I DONT want to cut grass!
Ok? Mine doesnt either, and I still dont want to..

[Bleed Green]

As long as he likes what he is doing and is good at it that is all that matters. Some people have different likes and dislikes and different skill sets than others. If the economy is really as bad as everyone says than you will do anything to get work and put food on the table. If that means cutting grass thats what you do.

[CAT powered]

I don't think we're putting down grass cutting here. Everyone's got a job to do. I'm sure if you put some of these operators on a ZTR and told them to go mow lawns they'd tear everything up and it'd look like crap.

However I know for a fact if you put certain lawn jockeys onto equipment they'll break it and actually give you negative productivity. Meaning they accomplish nothing and make even more work.

As far as a 15 year old having "Hundreds of hours on a CAT 330D laying pipe." I find that hard to believe as well. If you're mowing lawns then you'll be doing that all summer and you sure aren't putting hundreds of hours on a machine over the weekend.

[Dirtman2007]

I don't think we're putting down grass cutting here. Everyone's got a job to do. I'm sure if you put some of these operators on a ZTR and told them to go mow lawns they'd tear everything up and it'd look like crap.

However I know for a fact if you put certain lawn jockeys onto equipment they'll break it and actually give you negative productivity. Meaning they accomplish nothing and make even more work.

As far as a 15 year old having "Hundreds of hours on a CAT 330D laying pipe." I find that hard to believe as well. If you're mowing lawns then you'll be doing that all summer and you sure aren't putting hundreds of hours on a machine over the weekend.


Negative productivity... that a good one. I've never heard that before, but I like it:)

I've seen some cases where someone was doing that and it gave me more work to do.

[P.Services]

i cut grass and move dirt so haaa

[Junior M]

Negative productivity... that a good one. I've never heard that before, but I like it:)

I've seen some cases where someone was doing that and it gave me more work to do.
It always does! :laugh:

Very good points CAT, and very well put, I wasnt putting down cutting grass or that he does. Just that I dam sure wouldnt be if I had a 330 layin around. Jeez, how many times do I need to say this before I get my point across?

[bobcat_ron]

i cut grass and move dirt so haaa

I smoke more grass than I mow. Is that wrong?

[Junior M]

I smoke more grass than I mow. Is that wrong?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[2004F550]

I believe him, when I first started looking at forums I was about 16 and my family owns the same kind of business just a little bigger. It is possible to be in a large family company and operate at a young age, when your around it your whole life it happens. Laying pipe at 15, maybe if its not a highly visible job, osha would have some issues.

[Dirtman2007]

I believe him, when I first started looking at forums I was about 16 and my family owns the same kind of business just a little bigger. It is possible to be in a large family company and operate at a young age, when your around it your whole life it happens. Laying pipe at 15, maybe if its not a highly visible job, osha would have some issues.

I also grew up in the business, riding in machines when I was 3 or 4 years old. At 8 or 9 my grandpa would let me run the machine while sitting in his lap. A couple years later he would sit outside a watch me as I dug holes. ( was running a 220 size excavator)

Age 14 I had a full time job over the summer working on a sod farm digging ponds 10 hr days. Loved every minute of it.

[stuvecorp]

I have been looking at portable crushers..........not the monsters ksss is looking at but small residential type units....my other purchase for this winter will probably be a 900 KW with ar400 bed tri-axle 2001 or earlier........been on the prowl for that one on a daily basis.

I was just looking thru Rock 'N Dirt and there was a 'smaller' crusher and in the one picture was being loaded with a skid. Checked their website and it looks like it could do a lot but don't see what kind of production.
www.rebelcrusher.com

[TandM]

sorry for taking so long to reply to all of these questions I got a suprise vacation to canada over christmas! so I havent had time to get on here.

ok first of all I understand how you might not have hundreds of hours on your bobcat but we do a whole different deal then your company my job when I run the excavator is to dig and dig and dig. our 330 is equiped with a laser that tells me what percent grade Im digging at and how deep and I just follow the pland and dig out the hole all day long and yes the only jobs I run on are the ones FAR FAR AWAY FROM O.S.H.A.! and with 20 hours a weekend since mid past summer it only took 5 weekends to hit 100 hours. I have 100s of hours in just that 330 I was the first to run it!! I love heavy machinery! its one of my favorite things to do.

another thing I started off as a roughneck hole man lubin pipes at 13. I got good at that and they moved me to connectin man a small step up and then to hill man. I then started operating the 330 at 14 fulltime weekend shifts. Ive run all the equipment since I was 10 like actually bein able to operate not just drive around.

and my dads def not gonna put me over all the men just over a few crews of 5 so maybe 15 guys.

and I started off mowing grass at 4 so I have always loved that and my dad does 0 yard work and I love presenting a good image so it was right up my alley. and It was safer for me to operate a mower then a excavator at 6 so I guess it was a way for me to learn the operation of equipment small equipment ya know such as ztr's and it built my work ethic up! so It has benefitted me and I just like doing it as it is MY BUSINESS!

anyway any Q's? on that or does that make sense? Im not fos.

[Junior M]

I've tried to keep record of the number of hours I've had on the mini ex this summer, it came to 172(just from what I had written down), just this summer, so I was probably way low on my hours from what I posted earlier...

[TandM]

172 is a lot on that bobcat! you must be pretty good? what exactly does your dads company do? and how old are you?

[Junior M]

172 is a lot on that bobcat! you must be pretty good? what exactly does your dads company do? and how old are you?
Its our company, and I added the few hours I had on the mini ex at work in there, I assume they count? ;)

We arent full time, I am goin to take over everything and go full time when I graduate high school. Dad and some other guys say I am pretty good, I'll have these guys judge my operating before long. But I am 14, been on and around equipment since before I can remember, but I was actually pushing levers at 5 or 6. We do really anything you can do with a bobcat and mini ex. Most of our work is some light clearing, lot clean up, building, backfilling, and wiring pools (sometimes we do all three of those, sometimes just one or two of those) and my dad is a licensed electrician so we do a lil bit of electric to. We've done all that and irrigation and grading this year.

[TandM]

ya the minis count haha and thats awesome! it must be nice bein able to have your dad work with you. I grew up workin with the pipe guys and spend most of my time durin the week days at the shop with our full time mechanic learnin about diesel engines and how to fixthe trucks and equipment so on and so forth. it is a huge priveledge to have all of this equipment like the 330's and pavers curb machines I listed it all Im pretty sure. I sure do wish I could find another kid like yourself around these parts who would like to help me out on weekends. if ya want to drive down here Ill let you play on the 330 and the d 6 if you like. haha fun stuff where exactly is elgin?

[Junior M]

ya the minis count haha and thats awesome! it must be nice bein able to have your dad work with you. I grew up workin with the pipe guys and spend most of my time durin the week days at the shop with our full time mechanic learnin about diesel engines and how to fixthe trucks and equipment so on and so forth. it is a huge priveledge to have all of this equipment like the 330's and pavers curb machines I listed it all Im pretty sure. I sure do wish I could find another kid like yourself around these parts who would like to help me out on weekends. if ya want to drive down here Ill let you play on the 330 and the d 6 if you like. haha fun stuff where exactly is elgin?
Hope you got a wide open area I can tear up! I dont run the controls that are on the 330 and I've never ran a dozer before, that'll be fun!

Its just east of Columbia down I-20, where you located?

I am goin to school next year to learn about diesels in general, but the guys I've talked to that have taken it said they learn about the whole semi, and you get hands on with the truck earlier than what they actually tell you...

Oh, and working with your Dad isnt what its made out to be, all fine and dandy in the beginning. and then its down hill from there...

[TandM]

south east georgia right over the florida line thank goodness haha. so thats a good day of a drive. Im in atl every once in a blue moon and charleston about once a month.

[TandM]

oh we got 800 acres you can tear up and thats just one of our 6 jobs we have right now.

[Junior M]

south east georgia right over the florida line thank goodness haha. so thats a good day of a drive. Im in atl every once in a blue moon and charleston about once a month.
I would bout 6 hours, maybe 8 at the most. Ohio is 560 miles away and we did it in 8 1/2 hours last night...

[TandM]

well you are welcome to come on down one weekend when you get el liscense. my dad wouldnt mind at all Ive let a few friends play on our bobcat mini but thats it. no one else gets on my cat! haha I love that thing just greased and changed the oil on her today runs like a top. gotta weld the thumb on it tom. tryin to decide if it makes sence to buy a hydro thumb.

[Junior M]

well you are welcome to come on down one weekend when you get el liscense. my dad wouldnt mind at all Ive let a few friends play on our bobcat mini but thats it. no one else gets on my cat! haha I love that thing just greased and changed the oil on her today runs like a top. gotta weld the thumb on it tom. tryin to decide if it makes sence to buy a hydro thumb.
I'll have to take you up on that offer one weekend

I wouldnt not have a conventional thumb, but if you get a Bobcat brand hydro thumb, make sure the thumb is made for the machine so it will fold most of the way up against the boom. Cause on the 335 the thumb is off of a 337 (they dont make a hydro thumb just just for the 335) so it doesnt fold all the way up and gets in the way ALOT Here's what it does on the 335---- (I dont have a very good pic on this computer but you can kinda see it)
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work016.jpg

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work017.jpg

[TandM]

oh ok I see what you are saying and I have a hydro thumb on our 442 and it folds all of the way up

[Junior M]

oh ok I see what you are saying and I have a hydro thumb on our 442 and it folds all of the way up
Bobcat 442? Its probably because of what I said, because its made for that certain model of machine. What model Bobcat mini do yall have?

[CAT powered]

Let's see some pictures of you and the 330, TandM. It'd look good in the "Who are you" thread.

[TandM]

Im tryin to figure out how to post them up on here but I cant seem to resize them I will asap but its not lookin bright and ya its a bobcat 442

[CAT powered]

Open them in Paint. Go to image and then stretch/skew. From there you can increase or decrease the size of the picture in percentages. Save it once you have it how you want it. Upload it to a picture hosting site and post the [IMG] tagged link here.

[Junior M]

I think you can just upload the pic to photobucket and then post the [IMG] link..

[t190]

k you guys are talking about age here so here i go. 17 years old... 2 years logging..been runnin hoes since i was 6 alone clearing brush to build pastures at our house. 2 years ago went to the bush for the summer. Ran 210 log loader piling, hoe chucking and other stuff. Also ran a 748g3 skidder for a few weeks. this summer i went ran a 210 excavator, with clam and a bucket. pilied, decked, hoe chucked, loaded trucks. For a month i was on my own, own truck, own hoe, doing road rehab 20 km from anyone,luckily nothign went wrong, anmade good money at it haha. I also ran processor, and a 7 buildign road.
Latley been working loadin a 700hp beast on tracks with a deere 2054. and a 160clc with a rake doing cleanup.

heres a short list of gear i have run
303cr cat
27 yanmar
320 331 bobcat
27 komastu hoe
35 gehl
45 kebelco
50d deere
75 deere
100 hitachi
160 deere
200 hitachi
250 komastu
690 deere
225 cat
321 cat
330 deere
210 hyundai
200 deere
270 deere
322 log loader cat
2054 deere
210 volvo

also
d6
d7
450h
580m,l
250d rock truck
966c
844j
272c
ct175
430 case skid
648
748 skidders
200 deere processors

i think ive doen well so far for 17 ahah

[Junior M]

Wow, a nice little mixture of both compact and fullsize equipment...

What about your dream business, and dream truck, trailer and piece(s) of equipment?

[Dirtman2007]

I'll have to take you up on that offer one weekend

I wouldnt not have a conventional thumb, but if you get a Bobcat brand hydro thumb, make sure the thumb is made for the machine so it will fold most of the way up against the boom. Cause on the 335 the thumb is off of a 337 (they dont make a hydro thumb just just for the 335) so it doesnt fold all the way up and gets in the way ALOT Here's what it does on the 335---- (I dont have a very good pic on this computer but you can kinda see it)
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work016.jpg

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work017.jpg



You have the same PJ trailer as we do, except ours has 3 axles and looks worse! lol the skid steer is a little rough on the bar that ties the ramps to the trailer so they are bent to the point they really don't slide much. I need to take the big excavator and push down on the top of the ramp when its up and bend them back straight I guess.

yeah that thumb hangs down too much for me.

You also need the tie the bucket down, it's the law in NC!!
It might raise by itself and hit a bridge:laugh:

[Junior M]

You have the same PJ trailer as we do, except ours has 3 axles and looks worse! lol the skid steer is a little rough on the bar that ties the ramps to the trailer so they are bent to the point they really don't slide much. I need to take the big excavator and push down on the top of the ramp when its up and bend them back straight I guess.

yeah that thumb hangs down too much for me.

You also need the tie the bucket down, it's the law in NC!!
It might raise by itself and hit a bridge:laugh:
Ours hasnt bent yet, but we dont use it everyday, but I am sure it will eventually. The last piece of angle iron on the ramp that touches the ground, and its already bent. I'll have a set built within the next couple years if it keeps up. Those are really the only complaints I have with it, except the spring beat the hell out of the trailer from sliding. We are in the process of making a latch so we wont have to use the stupid bars and pins. Its the same thing that are on Big Tow trailers, got the idear straight from out local Bobcat Dealer! :cool2:

We are trying to keep the trailer as clean as possible because if Dad or me gets a 1ton and we get a shop or garage in the backyard, I want to trade it off for a gooseneck. I think Dad has me goin to far to keep it clean though, see the rags between the straps and the rub rail? That gets on my nerves...

:laugh:I know about the bucket, its a law here to, you have to have 5 points of contact on the trailer and 4 points of contact on the machine ;) I dont know how that works, but he wont do it, but when we get a ticket, its not coming out of my pay.

That thumb is really annoying, like for loading a truck, you lose half your bucket before you get over the truck because of the stupid thumb I hate it! Its really bad loading a full size tandem..

[t190]

Wow, a nice little mixture of both compact and fullsize equipment...

What about your dream business, and dream truck, trailer and piece(s) of equipment?

logging equipment for 200 000 cubic meters a year, road side logging( all deere)
2-909j bunchers
2-848h skidders
1-748h skidder
3-2154/622b processors
3754 loader
2954 loader
2454 rear entry road builder.
850J dozer

site prep
3-2154 hoes
850j with disc trencer

road building
650j
950j
2954 road builder
3754 road builder
400d adt
872 grader

GMC's with duramaxs for crew transport
and a 5500 service truck

and sub the loggin trucks and lowbed..too many headaches haha

and for yard toys hahah
75d
332ct
35d
450j
244j

[Dirtman2007]

Ours hasnt bent yet, but we dont use it everyday, but I am sure it will eventually. The last piece of angle iron on the ramp that touches the ground, and its already bent. I'll have a set built within the next couple years if it keeps up. Those are really the only complaints I have with it, except the spring beat the hell out of the trailer from sliding. We are in the process of making a latch so we wont have to use the stupid bars and pins. Its the same thing that are on Big Tow trailers, got the idear straight from out local Bobcat Dealer! :cool2:

We are trying to keep the trailer as clean as possible because if Dad or me gets a 1ton and we get a shop or garage in the backyard, I want to trade it off for a gooseneck. I think Dad has me goin to far to keep it clean though, see the rags between the straps and the rub rail? That gets on my nerves...

:laugh:I know about the bucket, its a law here to, you have to have 5 points of contact on the trailer and 4 points of contact on the machine ;) I dont know how that works, but he wont do it, but when we get a ticket, its not coming out of my pay.

That thumb is really annoying, like for loading a truck, you lose half your bucket before you get over the truck because of the stupid thumb I hate it! Its really bad loading a full size tandem..


Yeah the raggs are a little overkill IMO. Let me haul some used mud mats on it one weekend, we'll see how good it looks then! We have had our for 2 years. It probably has 30,000+ miles on it, it gets used all the time. Needs some tires on it bad, a few could pass as racing slicks!

[Junior M]

Yeah the raggs are a little overkill IMO. Let me haul some used mud mats on it one weekend, we'll see how good it looks then! We have had our for 2 years. It probably has 30,000+ miles on it, it gets used all the time. Needs some tires on it bad, a few could pass as racing slicks!
:laugh: Yeah they are WAY over kill, but he's got senority.. Just let me have it for a weekend, no more rags, and it'll have some modifications done, tiedowns in the floor,(in the last pic you can see where we've got it cut out for a tiedown for the T190, will have one ahead of that for attachments and the 335) tounge box closed off, dove tail rhino lined so the W/B will get grip when its wet out. Diamond plate across the back so the springs dont beat the trailer to hell anymore, and it will have LED's :cool2:

[Dirtman2007]

:laugh: Yeah they are WAY over kill, but he's got senority.. Just let me have it for a weekend, no more rags, and it'll have some modifications done, tiedowns in the floor,(in the last pic you can see where we've got it cut out for a tiedown for the T190, will have one ahead of that for attachments and the 335) tounge box closed off, dove tail rhino lined so the W/B will get grip when its wet out. Diamond plate across the back so the springs dont beat the trailer to hell anymore, and it will have LED's :cool2:

I kocked a couple tail lights out out when I backed over a ditch and the back bottomed out on the ground, I pushed up about a 1/4 yard of dirt:laugh:

I also Like the three axles, they will span ditches it you "cut" the corner alittle too close insead of droping in. Its probably not to good for the entire weight of the skid steer to be on one axle, but it's only for a few seconds:rolleyes:

[Junior M]

I kocked a couple tail lights out out when I backed over a ditch and the back bottomed out on the ground, I pushed up about a 1/4 yard of dirt:laugh:

I also Like the three axles, they will span ditches it you "cut" the corner alittle too close insead of droping in. Its probably not to good for the entire weight of the skid steer to be on one axle, but it's only for a few seconds:rolleyes:
:laugh: :laugh: I am sure you do! Thats probably the smallest single wheel tag trailer you can get without goin to a 12ton tandem dually or goin to a GN...

[Dirtman2007]

the rig

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-32.jpg

[Junior M]

Here's ours...

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work013.jpg

Is yall's trailers 21ft deck with 3ft dove? It looks short, but I think its cause of the third axle...

[ianh]

Dirtman, how do ya like that Yanmar you have; not sure what size it is? I'm halfway to pulling the trigger on a Vio75 which I'll fit up with my flail mower and also setup for a cutter similar, perhaps even identical, to this (http://www.erkat.de/en/product/er100/).

Anyone feel free to chime in re choice of cutter (but has to have an Australian distributor)... the Yanmar is pretty much a done deal as I'm reeeal happy with the little SV08 that I bought for those tight spots :)

[Dirtman2007]

Its a nice and smooth operating machine. This machine is a Vio 55. I wish it did have a little more counterweigh on the back as it seems somwhat unstable on hills. Other than that its a good machine.

[bobcat_ron]

Here's ours...

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/Work013.jpg

Is yall's trailers 21ft deck with 3ft dove? It looks short, but I think its cause of the third axle...


the rig

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee145/Letsdig18/006-32.jpg

Well now, since we are showing off your so called "work trucks" with your tiny trailers, how about a real work truck and a real man's trailer?
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178/rdj07/Pictures978.jpg

[TandM]

I will upload when I can figure it out I tried photobucket and it didnt work but whatev Ill find out when I have more time.

[Junior M]

Ron, how long is your trailer? I assume a 5ft dove..

[bobcat_ron]

Ron, how long is your trailer? I assume a 5ft dove..

6 foot dove and a 21 foot deck.

[Junior M]

6 foot dove and a 21 foot deck.
Oh, thats the same size as the trailers me and Chris got, except PJ tags have 3ft dove tails with 5ft ramps. Your trailer looks shorter than that...

[twward]

jlm335,

Hey, I hate to interupt, but ........

About your thumb, you said that you have a 337 thumb on your machine. There is a reason it does not function properly. The Bobcat 335 has the same boom as the bobcat 435 machine. The 335 and 435 have a seperate thumb design than the 337 machine. That is why you are having problems.

If a dealer sold you this thumb, they were wrong. Maybe this will help you out with your problem.

[Junior M]

jlm335,

Hey, I hate to interupt, but ........

About your thumb, you said that you have a 337 thumb on your machine. There is a reason it does not function properly. The Bobcat 335 has the same boom as the bobcat 435 machine. The 335 and 435 have a seperate thumb design than the 337 machine. That is why you are having problems.

If a dealer sold you this thumb, they were wrong. Maybe this will help you out with your problem.
Its a rental machine, we asked for a thumb when we rented for the first time when it only had 50 hours on it, they put that thumb on there and it hasnt came off since, that was over 600 hours ago.. I am guessing its a 337 because thats the closest machine with out goin to a smaller thumb. I knew it had the 435 boom, but doesnt it have the 337 stick?

[twward]

No it has the boom and "standard" length stick from the 435 excavator.

[Junior M]

No it has the boom and "standard" length stick from the 435 excavator.
Oh, okay. I've got it mixed up then.. The 335 is really just a machine made from left over parts off of other machines..

[twward]

Basically, you are right. It has the undercarriage of a 430, house of a 331, and boom of a 435 standard arm. It was designed to compete with the Kubota 121. There was a gap in Bobcats excavator line. This is how they filled that gap.

[Junior M]

Basically, you are right. It has the undercarriage of a 430, house of a 331, and boom of a 435 standard arm. It was designed to compete with the Kubota 121. There was a gap in Bobcats excavator line. This is how they filled that gap.
Yeah, and a beefed up 331 motor. It has a longer trackframe than the 430 though, so how does that work?

[bobcat_ron]

Yeah, and a beefed up 331 motor. It has a longer trackframe than the 430 though, so how does that work?

It works like all Bobcat products, all bark and no bite.

[Junior M]

It works like all Bobcat products, all bark and no bite.
:laugh: :laugh: Nah, the 335 is one of my favorite machines, I liked it more than the Cat I ran, I liked the IHI control package more, but I like the 335, it has more brute force imo..

[ianh]

Its a nice and smooth operating machine. This machine is a Vio 55. I wish it did have a little more counterweigh on the back as it seems somwhat unstable on hills. Other than that its a good machine.


Tks Dirtman... I demoed the Vio 75 on a heap at about 2:1 batter as we often work in stormwater retention ponds (we've got a good little job most years ta clean the silt out of several of them)... it slewed around empty OK, but there wasn't enough dirt ta really fill the bucket up. As you suggest, I guess if it turns into a problem, we might hafta add some extra weight... I'm not big on that kinda thing as it doesn't always help with stability.

Thanks for your input as we've used only Hitachi and Komatsu over the years, but only in the big stuff.

[CAT powered]

That's cause you can only run baby controls, Junior. You can't run man controls yet.

[Junior M]

That's cause you can only run baby controls, Junior. You can't run man controls yet.
Give me a lunch break on that clearing job one day, and I should be up and running what you call "MAN" controls...

[WillieWonka1850]

I know this thread is old as s**h, but I wanna share mine!

Heres all the equipment I'd buy:

Caterpillar 420E IT
Used Caterpillar Wheeled Log loader
Caterpillar 297C w/ Root Grapple.
John Deere 244J
John Deere 60D
Tub Grinder
Tandem Axle Dump truck or 2

And probably some other equipment we don't need but still would like to have:
Gehl 7810 w/ Grapple and Solids
Gehl AL340 Cab
John Deere CT332 w/ Root Grapple
Bobcat E35
Caterpillar IT14G
Caterpillar 924H
Not to mention a TON land clearing attachments!

Now you might be asking, "Willie, why would you need all this equipment"
2 REASONS!!
1. It would be fun!
2. My uncle has been taking about a big land clearing job.
See, theres this bike path in the woods out in Bay City that me and meh uncle like to ride a lot. This woods is full of dead trees that just make it look awful (to him. I don;t really mind it, gives it that nice "woodsy" look) So he's been talking about how cool it would be to get a bunch of cool equipment, and clear it up. Huh?? Huh???

We'd probably offer the City of Bay City to do it, so they'd probably pay us.
Junior would probably move to Michigan just to help out lol :laugh:

All together we'd probably be at over $5 Million I'm guessing :laugh: :laugh:

[Junior M]

I know this thread is old as s**h, but I wanna share mine!

Heres all the equipment I'd buy:

Caterpillar 420E IT
Used Caterpillar Wheeled Log loader
Caterpillar 297C w/ Root Grapple.
John Deere 244J
John Deere 60D
Tub Grinder
Tandem Axle Dump truck or 2

And probably some other equipment we don't need but still would like to have:
Gehl 7810 w/ Grapple and Solids
Gehl AL340 Cab
John Deere CT332 w/ Root Grapple
Bobcat E35
Caterpillar IT14G
Caterpillar 924H
Not to mention a TON land clearing attachments!

Now you might be asking, "Willie, why would you need all this equipment"
2 REASONS!!
1. It would be fun!
2. My uncle has been taking about a big land clearing job.
See, theres this bike path in the woods out in Bay City that me and meh uncle like to ride a lot. This woods is full of dead trees that just make it look awful (to him. I don;t really mind it, gives it that nice "woodsy" look) So he's been talking about how cool it would be to get a bunch of cool equipment, and clear it up. Huh?? Huh???

We'd probably offer the City of Bay City to do it, so they'd probably pay us.
Junior would probably move to Michigan just to help out lol :laugh:

All together we'd probably be at over $5 Million I'm guessing :laugh: :laugh:
Ok, one thing you didnt think about, you've got a tub grinder, that means production is money in your pocket and with your biggest excavator a 60D what are you going to load it with?

[farmerknowsbest]

Cat 336D L with hyd thumb, q/a, digging bucket, ditching bucket, 6ft root rake, skeleton bucket, frost pick.
-jobs: clearing land, sifting stones, ditching, general excavation work

D6N LGP, pin on root rake, winch
-jobs: grubbing land, windrowing after excavator, leveling and stock piling

973C with quick attach. 4way bucket and root rake with grapple
-light duty grubbing, moving piles of brush with rake and grapple, loud out of stones

2 * 725 adt's
-jobs: hauling stones/stumps/dirt

420E extendahoe backhoe. q/a front and back, aux front and back. 4way up front, variety of attachments for the rear. Stone forks for up front too.
-jobs: light excavation, mostly used for repairing tile drainage. picking stones

Obviously money is not object here.

Warren

[WillieWonka1850]

I know this thread is old as s**h, but I wanna share mine!

Heres all the equipment I'd buy:

Caterpillar 420E IT
Used Caterpillar Wheeled Log loader
Caterpillar 297C w/ Root Grapple.
John Deere 244J
John Deere 60D
Tub Grinder
Tandem Axle Dump truck or 2

And probably some other equipment we don't need but still would like to have:
Gehl 7810 w/ Grapple and Solids
Gehl AL340 Cab
John Deere CT332 w/ Root Grapple
Bobcat E35
Caterpillar IT14G
Caterpillar 924H
Not to mention a TON land clearing attachments!

Now you might be asking, "Willie, why would you need all this equipment"
2 REASONS!!
1. It would be fun!
2. My uncle has been taking about a big land clearing job.
See, theres this bike path in the woods out in Bay City that me and meh uncle like to ride a lot. This woods is full of dead trees that just make it look awful (to him. I don;t really mind it, gives it that nice "woodsy" look) So he's been talking about how cool it would be to get a bunch of cool equipment, and clear it up. Huh?? Huh???

We'd probably offer the City of Bay City to do it, so they'd probably pay us.
Junior would probably move to Michigan just to help out lol :laugh:

All together we'd probably be at over $5 Million I'm guessing :laugh: :laugh:

I think it might be a case of Junior not reading again :nono:

[Junior M]

I think it might be a case of Junior not reading again :nono:
No, I read this time.. :laugh:

First question, how do you load a grinder with a tandem. ;) :laugh:

But really, depending on the grinder and set up its easier to load with a trackhoe.

[Junior M]

so this is my new and improved business, I dont know what I was thinking with the first one in this thread.. ;)

Truck 10
an 06 Ford 450 or 550 flatbed with boxes on top of the bed and a 100gallon transfer tank,
1-30ft 10ton gooseneck

Truck 11
Kenworth tandem axle dump
30ft towmaster 20ton deckover

Truck 12
some old beater tractor and tandem axle dump trailer for hauling debris away from clearing jobs where it cant be buried or burned. Also a lowboy for mowing the larger equipment around.

Machines:
T320 with foresty package and fecon, flail mower, grapple, toothed and regular bucket.
Bobcat 335 with a flail mower, and an assortment of different buckets.
CAT 308 with the same set up as above
a tub grinder or a grinder of some sort when customers want debris ground instead of hauled off or burned. (brand and size will be determined when the time comes)
then an older dozer and trackhoe once everything gets going and once work really picks up get a new/used dozer and trackhoe. (brand and size will be determined when the time comes)

(more equipment will be bought and sold as company grows to fit the current needs of customers)

[WillieWonka1850]

That log loader is basically a wheel excavator with a grapple.
I haven't really been around or seen too many tub grinders.
Its just on my list because its something my uncle said you'd need for that.

Oh a forgot a few things in the list:
Caterpillar 939
Hitachi 120 Excavator
Trackless MT-6 w/ FEL, 3pt hitch, dump box, and several other attachments
Caterpillar 140M Road Grader (Well thats just something I want :D)

With all that equipment, we'd need a few operators.

Junior? :laugh:

[Junior M]

That log loader is basically a wheel excavator with a grapple.
I haven't really been around or seen too many tub grinders.
Its just on my list because its something my uncle said you'd need for that.

Oh a forgot a few thing in the list:
Caterpillar 939
Hitachi 120 Excavator
Trackless MT-6 w/ FEL, 3pt hitch, dump box, and several other attachments
Caterpillar 140M Road Grader (Well thats just something I want :D)

With all that equipment, we'd need a few operators.

Junior? :laugh:
:As long as I've got a cab, A/C and some music its good. Oh and as long as your idea of the above 3 is better than Cat powereds, it'll work.. ;) :laugh:

and I know what you mean now by a log loader, I was thinking a wheel loader with a grapple for some reason. Why not a regular log loader?

[WillieWonka1850]

We saw this used one at the JD Dealer yesterday.
Cut a few corners on prices

To me now, if you get a cab machine and you can get a radio, its a must.

We would have a few wheel loaders working, Deere 244J and CAT 924H (or maybe a Komatsu WA250 Toolcarrier)

We'd also have a Trackless MT-6. Might come in handy

[Junior M]

We saw this used one at the JD Dealer yesterday.
Cut a few corners on prices

To me now, if you get a cab machine and you can get a radio, its a must.

We would have a few wheel loaders working, Deere 244J and CAT 924H (or maybe a Komatsu WA250 Toolcarrier)

We'd also have a Trackless MT-6. Might come in handy
Yeah, a cab isnt necassarily(sp?) a need but its nice to have.

[WillieWonka1850]

Yeah, a cab isnt necassarily(sp?) a need but its nice to have.
In Michigan, a cab is a must.
Cold, freezing windy winters, lots of snow.
Hot, humid, summers.
Yeah. I know, I'm spoiled.

What I was saying though was that if you can get a radio when you get a cab machine,
then the radio is almost a must. TYM and Branson Cab tractors come standrad with radios.

[Junior M]

In Michigan, a cab is a must.
Cold, freezing windy winters, lots of snow.
Hot, humid, summers.
Yeah. I know, I'm spoiled.

What I was saying though was that if you can get a radio when you get a cab machine,
then the radio is almost a must. TYM and Branson Cab tractors come standrad with radios.
Pussy.. :p :laugh:

And we've got really hot and humid summers here, but mild winters so a cab isnt a must have but it's definetly nice..

[Scag48]

Bunch of whiners! Get in a machine with a cab and no A/C in the summer and let me know what's up. 94 today, which is hot for the area. Was in a Cat 980C with no A/C, hotter than a box of snakes in there. 2 gallons of water was what I consumed in an 8 hour shift.

[Junior M]

Bunch of whiners! Get in a machine with a cab and no A/C in the summer and let me know what's up. 94 today, which is hot for the area. Was in a Cat 980C with no A/C, hotter than a box of snakes in there.
woah, woah! Who you talking to? what did I say in a post? A cab is nice, but you dont HAVE to HAVE ONE. therefore I wasnt whining, just stating a fact..

[WillieWonka1850]

woah, woah! Who you talking to? what did I say in a post? A cab is nice, but you dont HAVE to HAVE ONE. therefore I wasnt whining, just stating a fact..
I second this.

[tbi]

Bunch of whiners! Get in a machine with a cab and no A/C in the summer and let me know what's up. 94 today, which is hot for the area. Was in a Cat 980C with no A/C, hotter than a box of snakes in there. 2 gallons of water was what I consumed in an 8 hour shift.

What's the rate in a 980 ther nowadays?

[Scag48]

What's the rate in a 980 ther nowadays?

What kind of rate you talkin about? Hourly rate to hire the machine out or hourly rate for the operator running it? I'm assuming you're asking for the latter, since I'm an apprentice I get paid the same no matter what I run.

To be honest, it's not a 980C, it's an 824C, same thing but the wheel dozer brethren. I figured for simplicity I'd rather not confuse anyone with 824, not many people know that wheel dozers even exist. Alas it's just like running a 980 except you have a D6 size blade strapped to it so that you can't see the cutting edges or corner bits whatsoever. It's still a riot to run, I've actually become kinda decent grading fill material out. Obviously you wouldn't use it to finish grade with but I can leave a smooth line for my belly dumps to roll through.

[hvy 1ton]

I'll bite
Deertachi 75 ex 30" tracks, Denis Cimaf head, rototilt
Deertachi 135 ex Treeshear, Multi-processor
Deere 304J loader bale squeeze, forks, bale spear
Deere 605 hi-lift w/winch, root grapple, demo grapple, scarifiers
Deere 700J dozer w/ripper, root rake
Maybe a Cat 434 if they every bring them over
Pete 357 36K 4x4 with super singles, flatbed, flipover 5th wheel, toolboxes, 5gal bulk grease system
rigid neck lowboy
Live-bottom trailer
Quarter Frame Dump trailer
22" whole tree chipper
All attachments swap between the loader, hi-lift, and backhoe. Bunch of buckets for the excavators. I'd start with a 75, 605, and 2 axle truck; go from there.

[tbi]

What kind of rate you talkin about? Hourly rate to hire the machine out or hourly rate for the operator running it? I'm assuming you're asking for the latter, since I'm an apprentice I get paid the same no matter what I run.

To be honest, it's not a 980C, it's an 824C, same thing but the wheel dozer brethren. I figured for simplicity I'd rather not confuse anyone with 824, not many people know that wheel dozers even exist. Alas it's just like running a 980 except you have a D6 size blade strapped to it so that you can't see the cutting edges or corner bits whatsoever. It's still a riot to run, I've actually become kinda decent grading fill material out. Obviously you wouldn't use it to finish grade with but I can leave a smooth line for my belly dumps to roll through.

Pay rate. if you wonder why NY is the land of taxes look no further than what the unions have done to the pay rates.

Class A operators $62/hr open shop rate in poor Delaware County.

Laborers $42/hr in Otsego County.

[bobcat_ron]

I'll bite
Deertachi 75 ex 30" tracks, Denis Cimaf head, rototilt
Deertachi 135 ex Treeshear, Multi-processor
.


Don't go with Deere'tachi unless they give you a lifetime warranty on their rollers, my old man's 75 just cracked a roller down the middle and Wajax is going to bend him over a barrel for it by NOT honoring the warranty.
Each roller is $300 CAN.

Shoulda bought a Cat.

[hvy 1ton]

last time i asked you said you like the 75 except the power management. now its except power management and undercarriage. Oh well, I like 307's almost as much, does cat make a 135 equivalent? The only thing i'm stuck on a brand is the 605, no comparison to the 939. Since cat will probably not bring over the 434 it'll be a terex 970.

[Total Earthworks]

Ok Here Goes:

Bobcat T320 (Gold Package) with steel undercarriage and tracks
Bobcat S630
Takeuchi TB153FR
Takeuchi TB1140
Komatsu PC270-8
Cat 953D
Komatsu D53-18
Komatsu D85EX-18
M.A.N 6x6 Tipper and trailer
Komatsu HM400 ADT
Fendt 712 Vario
Carrarro 8800
JCB Fastrac

Thats it for starters.......

[hvy 1ton]

I can't believe i forgot to mention the Cat D6D. That and a cat dolly scaper would be my third piece of equipment. I would get a SA model setup for pulling farm equipment. They have an extended U/C with an extra roller for better ride at high speed without the blade on.