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Passion4Lawns92
12-21-2008, 06:50 PM
I want to start a successfull lawn maitenace buisness and i need some
advice as to how to price lawns, what to buy, how to manage profit ect...
I'm only in high school so i dont have unlimited funds. Any tips, hints,
advice,ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated!! THANKS
Puddle of Oil
12-21-2008, 09:31 PM
start by getting a job in landscaping(working for someone), then spend hours a day on lawnsite!:cool2::cool2:
jsw2008
12-21-2008, 10:04 PM
I agree. The best way to learn the business is to work for a landscape company while you're in school. I did for 4 years in college, and it really teaches you the in and outs of everything.
STIHL GUY
12-21-2008, 10:20 PM
start out with what you have and upgrade to commercial stuff when you earn enough money
Scag413
12-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Get in good with the local guys so you can learn alot from them
RLC12065
12-21-2008, 11:16 PM
i'd start out learning how to spell.
DLAWNS
12-22-2008, 01:14 AM
i'd start out learning how to spell.
Dude, no offense but that isn't helping anyone.
Passion4lawns92--I agree with others, get some experience with another company. That is how a lot of guys get started. If you are dead set on starting your own company, then my advice is...do quality work, only purchase what you can afford, and customer service is so important. Always call people back and show your customers that you care. Good luck and keep asking questions. You will learn a ton of stuff on this site.
RLC12065
12-22-2008, 01:17 AM
Dude, no offense but that isn't helping anyone.
Passion4lawns92--I agree with others, get some experience with another company. That is how a lot of guys get started. If you are dead set on starting your own company, then my advice is...do quality work, only purchase what you can afford, and customer service is so important. Always call people back and show your customers that you care. Good luck and keep asking questions. You will learn a ton of stuff on this site.
dlawns my point being is if he can't even spell simple words correctly how is going to run a lawn care business? the problem with our industry is that too many indians think they can be chiefs. some people just don't have the intelligence or education to run a business, sad but true. sorry if the truth hurts.
DLAWNS
12-22-2008, 01:21 AM
dlawns my point being is if he can't even spell simple words correctly how is going to run a lawn care business? the problem with our industry is that too many indians think they can be chiefs. some people just don't have the intelligence or education to run a business, sad but true. sorry if the truth hurts.
I don't have a college education and I can run a lawn business. Besides that, misspelling a few words doesn't make you a bad lawn guy. I just think that it is a little unnecessary to slam guys over something as silly as spelling. This site is here for learning and fun, not to get told how to spell.
NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC
12-22-2008, 01:21 AM
dlawns my point being is if he can't even spell simple words correctly how is going to run a lawn care business? the problem with our industry is that too many indians think they can be chiefs. some people just don't have the intelligence or education to run a business, sad but true. sorry if the truth hurts.
No one here is perfect, check your grammar, LOL!
RLC12065
12-22-2008, 01:28 AM
ok then passion4lawns, listen to dllawns post he made some good points.
dlawns i was harsh on the lad but it's true many guys can do quality work but don't have the business knowledge to run a business. good luck
DLAWNS
12-22-2008, 01:33 AM
dlawns i was harsh on the lad but it's true many guys can do quality work but don't have the business knowledge to run a business. good luck
This is definitely true, I agree with that. There are tons of morons out there that can't run a business to save their life, but I just didn't think that misspelling a couple words automatically means someone can't run a business. That was my point, anyway.*trucewhiteflag*
Passion4Lawns92
12-22-2008, 01:17 PM
Thanks guys for helping me out. I learned alot, including that grammer counts on forums(sorry im getting a 'C' in english class:laugh:). But my uncle is thinking of starting a landscape company and i will start out working for him i guess.
All_Toro_4ME
12-22-2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks guys for helping me out. I learned alot, including that grammer counts on forums(sorry im getting a 'C' in english class:laugh:). But my uncle is thinking of starting a landscape company and i will start out working for him i guess.
Inform your uncle about this site. Anyone can always learn something.
Tyler7692
12-22-2008, 02:36 PM
90% of this thread consists of useless, off-topic posts about spelling and grammar.
Lawn Freak
12-22-2008, 03:37 PM
I would PM you but you haven't earned the priveledge yet. I am 15 in high school as well. If you have AIM I would like to talk to you and help you out. If you don't have it, its free to download. My user name is lanscaper 22
Passion4Lawns92
12-22-2008, 04:02 PM
90% of this thread consists of useless, off-topic posts about spelling and grammar.
Yes, I know and it's kinda starting to p*ss me off
Puddle of Oil
12-22-2008, 05:31 PM
Yes, I know and it's kinda starting to p*ss me off
Ya cuz there's just SOOOOO many pages on this thread about grammar. NOT!
"90% of this thread consists of useless, off-topic posts about spelling and grammar".
ya like this one, so why are you contributing?
Passion4Lawns92
12-22-2008, 08:43 PM
ya cuz there's just sooooo many pages on this thread about grammar. Not!
"90% of this thread consists of useless, off-topic posts about spelling and grammar".
Ya like this one, so why are you contributing?
thats exactly what i was thinking!!! Thanks
now lets get back on topic here!!!!
DLAWNS
12-22-2008, 08:52 PM
[QUOTE=Passion4Lawns92;2656408]thats exactly what i was thinking!!! Thanks
now lets get back on topic here!!!![/QUOTE
Dude, I hope I didn't "piss anyone off". I thought someone was being rather rude to a new member so I told them what I thought. Then I gave my advice. Anyway, welcome to the site.
Passion4Lawns92
12-22-2008, 09:03 PM
[QUOTE=Passion4Lawns92;2656408]thats exactly what i was thinking!!! Thanks
now lets get back on topic here!!!![/QUOTE
Dude, I hope I didn't "piss anyone off". I thought someone was being rather rude to a new member so I told them what I thought. Then I gave my advice. Anyway, welcome to the site.
thanks man, i dont want tips about grammer and stuff, i want tips about how to start a good buiness, but since this is turning into an english classroom i would like to know how to delete this thread
DLAWNS
12-22-2008, 09:52 PM
I believe only an administrator can close or delete a thread.
Chris1594
12-22-2008, 09:58 PM
yeah only The Admin and mod's can Passion4Lawns92 best of luck to ya and HEYY It's my buddy Bill :waving: we meet again lol
DLAWNS
12-23-2008, 12:29 AM
yeah only The Admin and mod's can Passion4Lawns92 best of luck to ya and HEYY It's my buddy Bill :waving: we meet again lol
What's up buddy?:waving:
Passion4Lawns92
12-23-2008, 12:39 AM
OH MY GOD!!!
Can we please use this thread for me to gain some knowledge and not as a social event
please all i ask for is alittle help, im getting it from some people already but i think it would help more if i got more peoples oppinions/ views on starting a buisness
DLAWNS
12-23-2008, 12:55 AM
OH MY GOD!!!
Can we please use this thread for me to gain some knowledge and not as a social event
please all i ask for is alittle help, im getting it from some people already but i think it would help more if i got more peoples oppinions/ views on starting a buisness
Are you serious, dude? I answered your question, had your back, and answered your other question and another member agreed with my response. Than I said hello to him. That is not stopping other people from answering your question. Just chill and people will answer your question.
This site is an incredible resource of archived information. Patience and learning how to best use the ADVANCED search function will educate and assist you about the many facets of your/our business. You could literally spend months just reading.
Lawnsite is indeed better than sliced bread...especially if you're a low carb guy or are gluten intolerent. :laugh: :D
Yard.Barber
12-23-2008, 08:18 AM
OH MY GOD!!!
Can we please use this thread for me to gain some knowledge and not as a social event
please all i ask for is alittle help, im getting it from some people already but i think it would help more if i got more peoples oppinions/ views on starting a buisness
I started reading this thread at first and felt sorta bad for you until your last couple of post so going to say what I think.
First tip: CHECK YOUR PATIENCE AT THE DOOR!!
If you can't handle a simple forum without getting a litte upset or pissed off you will not survive in any form of business. The real world is will be much harsher and chew your butt up and spit you out.
Attitude is everything and perception is key.
Second tip: spend a lot of time going through the archives here, you have only been a member since this month, I spent months scanning the forums reading and trying to learn what I could before even posting or let alone ask a question. Granted you have the right to ask but also take the time to learn along the way.
Your in school still so do what you are doing now, study and take in the knowledge.
topsites
12-23-2008, 10:26 AM
The first step will be to get the priorities straight, so finish school first,
then once that is done we can talk about starting a business.
mobileboy
12-23-2008, 01:12 PM
Worst thread in Lawnsite history.:laugh:
Chris1594
12-23-2008, 02:07 PM
What's up buddy?:waving:
Heyy not much Bill
Chris1594
12-23-2008, 02:14 PM
I started reading this thread at first and felt sorta bad for you until your last couple of post so going to say what I think.
First tip: CHECK YOUR PATIENCE AT THE DOOR!!
If you can't handle a simple forum without getting a litte upset or pissed off you will not survive in any form of business. The real world is will be much harsher and chew your butt up and spit you out.
Attitude is everything and perception is key.
Second tip: spend a lot of time going through the archives here, you have only been a member since this month, I spent months scanning the forums reading and trying to learn what I could before even posting or let alone ask a question. Granted you have the right to ask but also take the time to learn along the way.
Your in school still so do what you are doing now, study and take in the knowledge.
I was thinking the same thing because if you come on here looking for advice to starting a Business and you fly off the handle you deffinatly will not survive out there if you get this mad your customers will eat you up and spit you out and so what if I say hello to a member etc just chill out :hammerhead:
Passion4Lawns92
12-23-2008, 03:19 PM
alright alright alright,
im sorry i got kinda pissed off *trucewhiteflag*but i just want to learn some things. I have been listining to you guys and have been reading the other threads on this site and they are great!! but i guess you can use this thread for whatever you want
Chris1594
12-23-2008, 03:21 PM
alright alright alright,
im sorry i got kinda pissed off *trucewhiteflag*but i just want to learn some things. I have been listining to you guys and have been reading the other threads on this site and they are great!! but i guess you can use this thread for whatever you want
umm.....ok
topsites
12-23-2008, 05:51 PM
It's all good, the part that irritates me is what the hell are these kids doing 'running a business?'
First I thought maybe it was just a way of saying things, let folks feel like they're doing something and
what have you, but it gets to a point the joke is either getting old, or it wasn't a joke to begin with...
Funny it isn't either way, I think legally you have to be 18 years old just to get a business license,
not to mention insurance, then operating a 21" is one thing but with commercial machines there exist
laws concerning their operation (and the age of the operator(s)).
Then there's the reliability and longevity factors, what do you plan on doing after graduation,
because 3-4 years is nothing in terms of running a business and this fly-by-night crap hurts
the reputation of an entire Industry.
But all that aside, like it or not you need MONEY.
Lots of it, thousands and thousands worth of legal paper tender, cash, moolah, benjies.
So...
Stay in school, consider picking up some customers in your own neighborhood
who can and will pay you, maybe get a part time job or what have you.
Do that, and save your money.
Tyler7692
12-23-2008, 06:03 PM
Topsites, I STRONGLY disagree
Ever since I was young, running a business ("owning a company" was how I thought of it early on) was a priority of mine.
Face it, mowing is an easy-in easy-out type of business. Always has been always will be.
I tell the kid to have it and make some money if he's serious.
RLC12065
12-24-2008, 12:28 AM
Topsites, I STRONGLY disagree
Ever since I was young, running a business ("owning a company" was how I thought of it early on) was a priority of mine.
Face it, mowing is an easy-in easy-out type of business. Always has been always will be.
I tell the kid to have it and make some money if he's serious.
mowing is an easy in easy out business? i have about $250,000 worth of equipment, didnt seem easy to get in at all. does someone give it away and i didnt know?
topsider i agree, i keep posting about professionalism, quality, presentation and appearence and everyone bashes me saying no one cares about all that they just care about cheap prices and minimal quality.
people buy $500 pairs of jeans and spend $300 on hand bags, they buy $80,000 cars and live in $800,000 houses. you need to sell yourself as being the best and better than the rest. seems to work for me but hey what do i know.
keller's
12-24-2008, 12:30 AM
They must be from the east coast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canyonbc
12-24-2008, 02:01 AM
Hello...
Let it first be known I dont own or operate a lawn business so I cant full help you there but I can help you in other ways.
First what equipment if any do you have?
What do you want your business to focus in?
How are you going to move equipment? Your 15 correct?
How much if any cash do you have?
How much if any equipment do you have?
Are there strict licenses for your area?
Working for your uncle for some time might not be a bad idea.
I hope this can help.
Tyler7692
12-24-2008, 11:12 AM
[QUOTE=RLC12065;2658340]mowing is an easy in easy out business? QUOTE]
In relative comparison to many other types of business, yes, it is easy in-easy out. I was referring to small-scale mowing anyway.
Passion4Lawns92
12-24-2008, 11:24 AM
Hello...
Let it first be known I dont own or operate a lawn business so I cant full help you there but I can help you in other ways.
First what equipment if any do you have?
What do you want your business to focus in?
How are you going to move equipment? Your 15 correct?
How much if any cash do you have?
How much if any equipment do you have?
Are there strict licenses for your area?
Working for your uncle for some time might not be a bad idea.
I hope this can help.
im 16 now and i have a dodge durango but i dont have a trailer im working on getting one. i have a little craftsman 21 inch mower, a stihl br600 bkpk blower and a old echo trimmer. i mowed lawns in my neighborhood last summer so i hope to have those same accounts this year.
DSLND
12-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Hey bud.
I'm from Pekin, Illinois so I am not far from you.
I'm fifteen, turning sixteen in February. I would like to talk to you on the phone, I could give you some pointers that have helped me get to where I am and such.
As soon as you can, send me a PM and we will go from there.
-Mitch-
RLC12065
12-24-2008, 12:36 PM
heres my 2 cents, if you're just starting out you need to save almost every penny you make to reinvest in your business. you being 16 you have minimal bills so take whatever you make and save. a 21" mower is very inefficient so after getting a trailer id look for a used 48" walk behind mower and use the 21" for backyards with fences. don't expect to make any money until you get as large as you want. you should be reinvesting every penny you can into the business.
Passion4Lawns92
12-24-2008, 01:57 PM
Hey bud.
I'm from Pekin, Illinois so I am not far from you.
I'm fifteen, turning sixteen in February. I would like to talk to you on the phone, I could give you some pointers that have helped me get to where I am and such.
As soon as you can, send me a PM and we will go from there.
-Mitch-
i dont have the capabilities to PM yet, when do i receive the privilege to PM, or how?
heres my 2 cents, if you're just starting out you need to save almost every penny you make to reinvest in your business. you being 16 you have minimal bills so take whatever you make and save. a 21" mower is very inefficient so after getting a trailer id look for a used 48" walk behind mower and use the 21" for backyards with fences. don't expect to make any money until you get as large as you want. you should be reinvesting every penny you can into the business.
Thanks for the advice im definitely going to do that this summer and i wish that i would have done that with the money i made last summer.
but i was thinking of getting like a 32 inch walk behind because the width of most fences is like 34-36, so do you think that would be better to go with the 32 inch wb?
PerfectEarth
12-24-2008, 02:07 PM
Listen to the first advice in this thread. GO WORK FOR A WELL-ESTABLISHED COMPANY!!!
I'm with topsites (and the guy who mentions "professionalism")- there'll be a lot of threads like this in the coming year, that's for sure. Everyone and their mother is going to "start a lawncare biz!"....with no clue about anything except how to turn on their Home Depot JD and fling grass everywhere. No education, no experience, no taxes paid, no CLUE how to manage their books. No clue how to service their equipment or pay for proper insurance.
Oh well.... they won't make it anyway so why worry?
RLC12065
12-24-2008, 02:23 PM
passions4lawns, go with a 48" walk behind, you have a 21" for fenced in yards. maybe 1 in 5 yards have fenced in back yards so why cut productivity on every yard, 32" compared to a 48". buy a 48" walk behind and use the 21" for backyards. 14 years of experience here.
DSLND
12-24-2008, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=Passion4Lawns92;2658966]i dont have the capabilities to PM yet, when do i receive the privilege to PM, or how?
Once you get a certain number of posts, you can go to your profile, and send me a message.
-Mitch-
bighaydenslawn
12-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Passion4Lawns92, I am 13 and this was my first year in the lawn care business. In terms of equipment, keep that BR600 BP and save up for a Stihl FS 80R Trimmer to replace that old Echo. Keep the Craftsman 21" for trim mowing and gates and look into getting a small ZTR for your main mower, think 42". John Deere and Exmark are good choices for smaller ZTR's. In terms of marketing, door to door is good, flyers wont get you very far. Your good work is the best marketing, then your name will spread. Keep doing good work and offer services like mulching, hedge trimming and leaf cleanups to make yourself more marketable. Success will come.
Passion4Lawns92
12-24-2008, 06:55 PM
Listen to the first advice in this thread. GO WORK FOR A WELL-ESTABLISHED COMPANY!!!
I'm with topsites (and the guy who mentions "professionalism")- there'll be a lot of threads like this in the coming year, that's for sure. Everyone and their mother is going to "start a lawncare biz!"....with no clue about anything except how to turn on their Home Depot JD and fling grass everywhere. No education, no experience, no taxes paid, no CLUE how to manage their books. No clue how to service their equipment or pay for proper insurance.
Oh well.... they won't make it anyway so why worry?
I get what your saying, but if you read the whole thread you will figure out that all this talk about professionalism and such all rooted because i miss-spelled a few words, i mean come on... forgive me!!
passions4lawns, go with a 48" walk behind, you have a 21" for fenced in yards. maybe 1 in 5 yards have fenced in back yards so why cut productivity on every yard, 32" compared to a 48". buy a 48" walk behind and use the 21" for backyards. 14 years of experience here.
Passion4Lawns92, I am 13 and this was my first year in the lawn care business. In terms of equipment, keep that BR600 BP and save up for a Stihl FS 80R Trimmer to replace that old Echo. Keep the Craftsman 21" for trim mowing and gates and look into getting a small ZTR for your main mower, think 42". John Deere and Exmark are good choices for smaller ZTR's. In terms of marketing, door to door is good, flyers wont get you very far. Your good work is the best marketing, then your name will spread. Keep doing good work and offer services like mulching, hedge trimming and leaf cleanups to make yourself more marketable. Success will come.
thanks for the advice i appreciate it, keep it coming
canyonbc
12-24-2008, 08:52 PM
I am here to support anyone trying to make it out there in the American Dream. And I dont own or operate a lawn care business, I am in Trees I know they are different but some what related.
In any trade you need to learn a lot of basics it is the need for a good foundation. Learning on your own is great but leaves open a lot of room for error and the start to bad habits.
I think have other guys have said, go work for a larger company.
Keep your few local accounts to do on the side but truly you are going to learn so much from a larger company it is crazy.
I don't know how important Insurance is in the lawn care industry but it is a must in the tree care industry.
Working for another company you will also have time to save up so cash and being working hopefully every day.
Best of Luck,
But truly you dont want to start off the bat with bad habits or doing things wrong because word travels fast especially bad word.
lukemelo216
12-25-2008, 12:07 AM
I am new to the business as well and the only advice I can give you is don't start off with some junk equipment you have laying around your house. I went into my local dealer and talked with the owner of the shop that has been in and around the business for his entire life 50+ years. He said to save up some money and buy some good used pieces of equipment. All the young people that start out thinking they can make it with their parents equipment don't usually make it through the first season because there mower(s) aren't built for everyday use and are always breaking down causing them to miss a week or two because of it. I know hes a sales men, but I tend to believe him on that.
Passion4Lawns92
12-25-2008, 12:07 AM
I am here to support anyone trying to make it out there in the American Dream. And I dont own or operate a lawn care business, I am in Trees I know they are different but some what related.
In any trade you need to learn a lot of basics it is the need for a good foundation. Learning on your own is great but leaves open a lot of room for error and the start to bad habits.
I think have other guys have said, go work for a larger company.
Keep your few local accounts to do on the side but truly you are going to learn so much from a larger company it is crazy.
I don't know how important Insurance is in the lawn care industry but it is a must in the tree care industry.
Working for another company you will also have time to save up so cash and being working hopefully every day.
Best of Luck,
But truly you dont want to start off the bat with bad habits or doing things wrong because word travels fast especially bad word.
Thanks man, that actually helped alot!! keep up the advice i appreciate it
canyonbc
12-25-2008, 01:19 AM
I am new to the business as well and the only advice I can give you is don't start off with some junk equipment you have laying around your house. I went into my local dealer and talked with the owner of the shop that has been in and around the business for his entire life 50+ years. He said to save up some money and buy some good used pieces of equipment. All the young people that start out thinking they can make it with their parents equipment don't usually make it through the first season because there mower(s) aren't built for everyday use and are always breaking down causing them to miss a week or two because of it. I know hes a sales men, but I tend to believe him on that.
I think that can be some really good advice.
Did he or do you have any suggestions on where to buy or look for used equipment?
Any certain equipment to stay away from.
canyonbc
12-25-2008, 01:20 AM
Thanks man, that actually helped alot!! keep up the advice i appreciate it
Your are welcome.
Are there a lot of lawn care companies in your area?>
Passion4Lawns92
12-25-2008, 11:27 AM
Your are welcome.
Are there a lot of lawn care companies in your area?>
yea, thats the thing that sucks
lukemelo216
12-25-2008, 11:36 AM
I think that can be some really good advice.
Did he or do you have any suggestions on where to buy or look for used equipment?
Any certain equipment to stay away from.
No he really didn't say where to buy from.I am going to assume he wants me to buy from him. He is the only exmark dealer in my area. He said stay away from the sears and home depot crap like the craftsman and all that cheap stuff.
canyonbc
12-25-2008, 07:04 PM
No he really didn't say where to buy from.I am going to assume he wants me to buy from him. He is the only exmark dealer in my area. He said stay away from the sears and home depot crap like the craftsman and all that cheap stuff.
That is good.
If you can find good used equipment especially from a dealer who has inspected and fixed anything wrong I am sure you can find some great deals.
canyonbc
12-25-2008, 07:06 PM
yea, thats the thing that sucks
Competition is not always bad.
I still think it might be the best to work a summer with a larger company and really get a solid base
But as you go on you will find your niche and succeed that way.
stroker51
12-25-2008, 07:37 PM
I will be 21 in April, and have been "in the biz" since 2003. Legit with insurance and taxes since 04. I will echo the advice given to work for someone else. I worked part time for another company, 20+ years in business, in the early years of my venture, and gained a so much knowledge it's unimagineable. At the end of every day, he ask me what I learned that day, and said if I didn't learn something, it was a wasted day. The other side of that is...I made A LOT of money, especially for a high school kid, in those early years. And I invested all of it back into the biz so that now almost everything we run is paid for, and upgrades are paid in cash. Good luck to you. I remember the thrill I got in high school from just the thought that, I am running a business, and starting my career while everyone else is just wondering through school. The way I look at it, while all my class mates are paying off college loans, I'll be paying on my mortgage.
stroker51
12-25-2008, 07:43 PM
Oh yeah, and to give you some advice...Make sure you do good work, and do what you say you will, when you will. If something comes up, communicate that with the customer. Some people say that stripes don't matter, but to me if a customer is going to pay someone who doesn't mow and stripe about the same money as me, why not get a better looking finished product for a similar cost? Also, never skimp on the trimming, sometimes customers notice the edging along the driveway and walks and the trimming more than they do any stripes. Always keep your blades sharp, equipment clean (as much as possible, kinda hard during rainy season) and come across as a confident, capable person. Not overly cocky or obnoxious, but you have to seem as if you know that you know what you're doing, if that makes sense. I've closed sales simply on that virtue, I seemed more competent because of the attitude I carried knowing that I/we could handle a job. And, in my opinion, if you are going to be in this for the long haul, get your chem. license when you can, and learn something about irrigation so you can provide full service, one stop shopping to your customers. You make the first sale and that is the hardest one, then you need to work that customer to sell them everything else you can do. Good luck with your new business!!
bighaydenslawn
12-25-2008, 07:47 PM
Oh yeah, and to give you some advice...Make sure you do good work, and do what you say you will, when you will. If something comes up, communicate that with the customer. Some people say that stripes don't matter, but to me if a customer is going to pay someone who doesn't mow and stripe about the same money as me, why not get a better looking finished product for a similar cost? Also, never skimp on the trimming, sometimes customers notice the edging along the driveway and walks and the trimming more than they do any stripes. Always keep your blades sharp, equipment clean (as much as possible, kinda hard during rainy season) and come across as a confident, capable person. Not overly cocky or obnoxious, but you have to seem as if you know that you know what you're doing, if that makes sense. I've closed sales simply on that virtue, I seemed more competent because of the attitude I carried knowing that I/we could handle a job. And, in my opinion, if you are going to be in this for the long haul, get your chem. license when you can, and learn something about irrigation so you can provide full service, one stop shopping to your customers. You make the first sale and that is the hardest one, then you need to work that customer to sell them everything else you can do. Good luck with your new business!!
These are some really good, hard facts that you need to remember to be successful in lawn care. Great advice stroker51. Merry Christmas to all.
RLC12065
12-25-2008, 09:37 PM
good advice stroker.
some advice, i'd buy that used equipment from the guy that suggested it to you. he knows that if he sells you a good piece of used equipment that youll then buy your new equipment from him. he wont sell you crap because he wont get return business.
canyonbc
12-26-2008, 02:24 AM
good advice stroker.
some advice, i'd buy that used equipment from the guy that suggested it to you. he knows that if he sells you a good piece of used equipment that youll then buy your new equipment from him. he wont sell you crap because he wont get return business.
Being new to this industry.
I wanted to make a note that this is a great point, and really pulls through why it is important to buy used equipment especially when starting up...getting it from a dealer well it is important to build a realtionship with them. A GOOD ONE
stroker51
12-26-2008, 11:15 AM
I didn't realize how philosophical I got there, lol. To echo the guys who have posted since my last one, definately develope a relationship with a good dealer. My John Deere dealer will bend over backwards to take care of me and my equipment. I have been dealing with them since I bought my first walk behind at 15 years old. They see what I have done so far, and know that I will be an important customer down the road. If the economy were the way it was when i started, I would say buy the best/newest equipment you can afford. But with so many questions, find some good used pieces, avoid going into debt and go from there. I am at the point now, after financing two mowers and several trucks, if it costs less than $10K, like my v-plow or spray rig, I am going to pay cash for it, if I don't have the cash, I will save it. In this economy, cash is king.
Slcareco
12-26-2008, 11:50 AM
I want to start a successfull lawn maitenace buisness and i need some
advice as to how to price lawns, what to buy, how to manage profit ect...
I'm only in high school so i dont have unlimited funds. Any tips, hints,
advice,ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated!! THANKS
Start by spelling the word right lol maintenance
Paradise Landscapes
12-26-2008, 12:15 PM
Listen to the first advice in this thread. GO WORK FOR A WELL-ESTABLISHED COMPANY!!!
I'm with topsites (and the guy who mentions "professionalism")- there'll be a lot of threads like this in the coming year, that's for sure. Everyone and their mother is going to "start a lawncare biz!"....with no clue about anything except how to turn on their Home Depot JD and fling grass everywhere. No education, no experience, no taxes paid, no CLUE how to manage their books. No clue how to service their equipment or pay for proper insurance.
Oh well.... they won't make it anyway so why worry?
I believe this to be right too! I am one of those that were once like you. Now, I am 26 and restarting. To much BS happened to me and I didn't follow this advice given to you. What am I doing diferent? I am in college, getting a 4 yr degree in Landscape Design with a business minor. At Kent State University, We are required to do 2 internships for our 2 yr degree, and 2 more for our other degree. Alot of experience. I also plan on purchasing equipment while doing my internships.
I hope this helps and please, please, listen to us, the ones telling you to work for a well-established company, and go for a 4yr degree in this field. You will not regret it like I am right now. These very same guys told me the same when I was 18 and on here under a different name. ( I lost my password and couldn't get it.)
canyonbc
12-26-2008, 10:58 PM
I believe this to be right too! I am one of those that were once like you. Now, I am 26 and restarting. To much BS happened to me and I didn't follow this advice given to you. What am I doing diferent? I am in college, getting a 4 yr degree in Landscape Design with a business minor. At Kent State University, We are required to do 2 internships for our 2 yr degree, and 2 more for our other degree. Alot of experience. I also plan on purchasing equipment while doing my internships.
I hope this helps and please, please, listen to us, the ones telling you to work for a well-established company, and go for a 4yr degree in this field. You will not regret it like I am right now. These very same guys told me the same when I was 18 and on here under a different name. ( I lost my password and couldn't get it.)
This is powerful.
+ 1...!!!
Learn from other mistakes, and I am not sure if mistake is the right word but you get, what I am getting at.
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