299C demo

[Mini man]

I demoed the 299c....needs a camera for reversing for sure!.
Anyone ever get proficient with a 6 way blade on one of these?...trying to decide between this and a case 55H dozer.:canadaflag:

[Mini man]

550H sorry

[stuvecorp]

I demoed the 299c....needs a camera for reversing for sure!.
Anyone ever get proficient with a 6 way blade on one of these?...trying to decide between this and a case 55H dozer.:canadaflag:

Mini Man, no contest the PowerTan one.Thumbs Up

It would depend what you are doing. I usually argue in the skid steer direction, have you thought of any Case skids with a VTS?

[dozerman21]

More info definetly needed. What kind of work are you doing? How will you be using the machine? Both have their place.

[Construct'O]

I have CTL with 6-way blade it works fine for what i use it mostly for ,backfilling trenches,but if you need to move dirt in tuff hard ground the dozer is to more my liking.

The CTL for loose dirt works great.Faster machine for turning and if you need it for lifting,and attachment then you have left the dozer in the dust.:)

I have bigger dozers,but decided for my trenching(two trencher) bus i would like a small dozer this time around for my backfilling and small dirt jobs.

Then i get to thinking i would actually get more usable hours out of a larger dozer.Then there is the pricing each step bigger is higher,push starts getting out of my use as backfill machine.So i'm up in the air on this one,plus with my age factoring in there for me.

I do have a auto laser system that i could ,put on the smaller dozer,which would be another plus going samller ,just easier to mount the valve into the system on the smaller dozer then my bigger dozers.

If your looking to a lot of grading in tuff hard dirt(ground),and have skid for lifting and attachment i would go dozer,if you need it more for running attachment and can live with using the bucket on the skid(CTL) to rough it in and use the blade to finish.Altho if your already using the bucket you might as will just go ahead and use it.

Decision don't you just love them.I also just bought a 4-1 bucket ,just incase i return to the decision of getting another CTL to backfill,etc.

Leaning more too small dozer and adding the laser system for me.Decision,decisions:dizzy::usflag:

[bobcat_ron]

Here's a back up camera, this one is going on my wish list for next year:

http://www.skidsteersolutions.com/Skid_Steer_Camera_System_p/cm-10.htm

[Construct'O]

Ron where would you mount yours at.They show it mounted over along the side.I would think i would try to mount mine up along the front door somehow.

It would be tuff with the slideup door tho:confused:

By the time i looked down to see what was behind me it would be too late:):usflag:

[Junior M]

Ron where would you mount yours at.They show it mounted over along the side.I would think i would try to mount mine up along the front door somehow.

It would be tuff with the slideup door tho:confused:

By the time i looked down to see what was behind me it would be too late:):usflag:
http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/confused-29.gif Um Constructo, that is over the door of some model of bobcat loader, those switches are in the center of the dash right over the door so you just look up..
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/JLM88_bucket/cmt.jpg

[RockSet N' Grade]

I put in a back up camera on my skid......it just throws out a general picture. I no longer use it because it does not show the corners of my machine where I usually tend to kiss things. I guess it is ok, and I thought it would be great..........it is now sitting on my work bench.....if it had a fish eye lense Iit would be more useful for me.

[Construct'O]

Okay Junior, i got it now! Just saw the guard thing there and thought that was the one along the side of the machine.

Didn't know what kind of skid it was,with the new machines coming out who know what's what:confused:

The guard over the top siteglass on my machine is bars not grat:usflag:

[Mini man]

Doing septics with 25 to 40 loads of sand each......need to be able to push, cotour, grade

[bobcat_ron]

The Volvo ADT's we rent have a fish eye camera on the rear under the box hinges, the monitor has dotted lines that come in the display to tell you where you are.
When I get serious about mine, I want to mount it on top of the cab pointing down over the rear engine door.

[MackCat]

Here's a back up camera, this one is going on my wish list for next year:

http://www.skidsteersolutions.com/Skid_Steer_Camera_System_p/cm-10.htm
How does the camera mount to the back of the machine?

[bobcat_ron]

How does the camera mount to the back of the machine?

It uses a magnetic bar from what I can see.

[MackCat]

It uses a magnetic bar from what I can see.
I thought that`s what it was but wasn`t sure , not to keen on drilling holes on a new machine

[bobcat_ron]

I thought that`s what it was but wasn`t sure , not to keen on drilling holes on a new machine

On the Bobcat (and the Cat's too) there is a 3/16" hole in the middle for the irritating beep beep beep noise from the back up alarm to come out, that's where the wires go through.

[Construct'O]

Doing septics with 25 to 40 loads of sand each......need to be able to push, cotour, grade

We still need some more input as to the dirt part of things.If moving sand around i would think using a bucket for that part? Trying to get this back on track for you:)

Is your soil types rocky ,tuff diggin or sandy?

Not that the backup screen discussion isn't interesting!:usflag:

[stuvecorp]

Yeah, without more specifics it is hard to recommend. For me I would go with a 465 w/VTS instead of a dozer but for someone that is comfortable with dozers that would be a no-brainer.

[Mini man]

The septics here in Ontario are typicaly raised in a mound 5 feet above grade so you are basically shaping a mound made out os sand........Dozer works the best but it has limited other uses.
I have a 262 Cat with Mclaren over the tire tracks but not enough traction in loose sand that thick!

[bobcat_ron]

Put a Bobcat tilt tach on a 299C or any skid steer and you can really shape and contour, I love mine, then you have the tilting action of a dozer.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178/rdj07/Pictures1260.jpg

[Mini man]

Holy Crap!...never seen that before! That would work great!

[stuvecorp]

Put a Bobcat tilt tach on a 299C or any skid steer and you can really shape and contour, I love mine, then you have the tilting action of a dozer.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t178/rdj07/Pictures1260.jpg

Someday. Have you had much chance to use it?

[SellingIron]

Put a Bobcat tilt tach on a 299C or any skid steer and you can really shape and contour, I love mine, then you have the tilting action of a dozer

Not Approved on Bobcats Large frame CTL. Too much power. But I'm sure they will would work just fine and not bend from cats MTL's/CTL's anti power machine...Ask the Cat Salesmen to show where the interior AC filter is. Heres a hint, bring some tools with you....

[stuvecorp]

Since we are on the tilt-tach hijack, a couple years ago we did this project and was hoping to do more like this but didn't happen. This wasn't real big but did it with Walle(RC30).

[bobcat_ron]

Not Approved on Bobcats Large frame CTL. Too much power. But I'm sure they will would work just fine and not bend from cats MTL's/CTL's anti power machine...Ask the Cat Salesmen to show where the interior AC filter is. Heres a hint, bring some tools with you....

The one I have, it is the upgraded version, lots more meat where it counts, it's all completely rebuildable, and just like any tilting bucket, you just have to learn where to use it, obviously, not for demo work.
I have used it a few times where being on level is crucial, it is so much fun to use and it balances the weight of the machine very well.

[ccstrebe]

I demoed the 299c....needs a camera for reversing for sure!.
Anyone ever get proficient with a 6 way blade on one of these?...trying to decide between this and a case 55H dozer.:canadaflag:

I had a 6 way blade and thought it was a worthless piece of junk for anything other than pushing piles of dirt around or rough cutting something in. I couldn't do any kind of finish work with it at all.

And with a suspended cab like the Cat has it would be even harder to do finish work with it because once the blade starts to cut it will get pulled down deeper than you want because the suspended cab will allow it to move down even more than a rigid cab will. I love the suspended cab on my Cat in rough terrain but it is a bit of a pain when trying to do minor skim the surface digging.

[SellingIron]

Yep.. 6-way dozer blade is very hard to use... You need alot of seat time to make that attachment work..Bradco makes a tilt-tach HD that will work on large frame CTL's..

[bobcat_ron]

Yep.. 6-way dozer blade is very hard to use... You need alot of seat time to make that attachment work..Bradco makes a tilt-tach HD that will work on large frame CTL's..


They do? I can't find it on their site, just the 10 degree carriage for the telehandlers and tractors.

[Construct'O]

I had a 6 way blade and thought it was a worthless piece of junk for anything other than pushing piles of dirt around or rough cutting something in. I couldn't do any kind of finish work with it at all.

And with a suspended cab like the Cat has it would be even harder to do finish work with it because once the blade starts to cut it will get pulled down deeper than you want because the suspended cab will allow it to move down even more than a rigid cab will. I love the suspended cab on my Cat in rough terrain but it is a bit of a pain when trying to do minor skim the surface digging.

After running a dozer for years the 6-way on skid or CTL was a new experience for sure.

The main thing to deal with was the ability( or not that is) of the stops for the loader and travel of the loader arm to a comlete stop.Dozers and real loader has more travel in the cylinders as far as down goes.

With the skid when you hit the boom stop that's it,except for the limited more movement of the tilt cylinders.

So your limited to the control of the blade's down movement except,as i skid loader.

You have to try to keep thing more level,because as soon as your blade pass the point of how much you wanted to cut that pass your done.The machine(tracks) start riding up and your down on the stops,with the tilt cylinders extended and you need to be cutting.Your out of control.

Where as with a dozer the travel down is not as limited without stops except when you get to the end of the cylinders,which is more the a ft.If the machine comes up,from the cut you can still ride over where you at and keep the blade on the ground cutting.I guess that is what i'm trying to say.

The stops thing is what bothers me,after running a dozer.

As for 6-way compared to just the tilt bucket is your able to use angle with the tilt and also up and down.In combination at time.Expamle....For me there isn't always room to get straight with the trench on unlevel ground,so you angle to get blade straight with the trench,tilt to level and up and down to backfill.

This is usual where i connect lines at a 45degree and not wanting to have to run across the first trench to get a straight push .Dirt moves easy the straighter you can push it.If your turning and pushing you loosing traction,and takes power from machine used in turning.

Just a few more thought.For what i need a 6-way blade to do it is and asset.One job that the blade worked good was i was leveling off for building pad not much fill.Farmer was hauling dirt in with the tractor and scoop.He piled it i leveled.Worked good there,it was just used more to level and grade.:usflag:

[DUSTYCEDAR]

toys r only as good and the operator